according to MLBTR:
Mets Interested In Mark DeRosa
According to Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse, the Mets have been talking to the Indians about acquiring Mark DeRosa. With Jose Reyes‘ injury last night, Price says “now that move makes even more sense.”
What would it take to get DeRosa, who is hitting .255/.322/.427 in 174 plate appearances this year? First off I’d guess full relief of the $4.1MM still owed to him. Beyond that the rumor yesterday was pitching that could help the Indians this year.
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dentulous
5/21/2009-12:02pm at 12:02 pm (UTC -4)
hmm… he was actually playing well in WBC and they were talking about how versatile he is. If only he was hitting better…
DO you think Putz is gonna be involved. Wood has been pretty bad and Putz has not exactly been lights out for us. We have Parnell and Stokes has been awesome so far. ANy thoughts?
dentulous
5/21/2009-12:03pm at 12:03 pm (UTC -4)
BTW, nice job with the updates. This site is going to be pretty darn good. As soon as finals are over, next week ,if you need any help, let me know.
trs86
5/21/2009-12:04pm at 12:04 pm (UTC -4)
My fear is that we overpay. I don’t think they would want Putz. I think they will want Parnell. Still want DeRosa? Go get me Jack Wilson as a salary dump.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:04pm at 12:04 pm (UTC -4)
man thats risky..im almost sure the indians would want pitching in return as MLBTR suggests but i wonder what kind. I dont think trading putz is a good idea YET because i think that puts WAY too much pressure on Parnell as he will most likely inherit that 8th inning role. I wouldnt mind giving up parnell and kunz though…
qnsnative718
5/21/2009-12:05pm at 12:05 pm (UTC -4)
Putz in the deal would make perfect sense. He wants to close and badly. I think Parnell can step up and Stokes has looked very good. The only thing I fear is Parnell burning out. He’s young and it may very well happen if he’s utilized beyond his limit. I wasnt a fan of DeRosa but with Reyes looking at the DL its a must act scenario. Get him.
qnsnative718
5/21/2009-12:14pm at 12:14 pm (UTC -4)
By the way, trs. If I wanted to plug this blog into the url box, what do I put? Therealdirtymets.com? trs.wordpress.com?
trs86
5/21/2009-12:15pm at 12:15 pm (UTC -4)
Ok so lets explore the Putz idea a little further.
What if it was Derosa and Betancourt for Putz? That brings back in the idea of a salary dump for the Indians and gives them a possible closer next year if they pickup the option of Putz or possible compensation picks.
qnsnative718
5/21/2009-12:11pm at 12:11 pm (UTC -4)
Yea especially if he’s complaining of neck stiffness. Gotta point.
trs86
5/21/2009-12:05pm at 12:05 pm (UTC -4)
Dirty, I would rather give up Putz than Parnell. I know it’s early but Parnell is cheap and under contract.
dentulous
5/21/2009-12:08pm at 12:08 pm (UTC -4)
not parnell. I would much rather lose Putz than Parnell
qnsnative718
5/21/2009-12:09pm at 12:09 pm (UTC -4)
Yea, no way I would give up Parnell. Throws serious gas and doesnt seem to get fazed. We need that mentality in the bullpen.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:12pm at 12:12 pm (UTC -4)
oh crap loll i meant to say niese and kunz…im looking at the responses like wth im defending parnell what are you guys talking about lol my bad
gravediggerhebner
5/21/2009-12:13pm at 12:13 pm (UTC -4)
I only think it makes sense for Cleveland if they dump a salary. Do they have anyone that qualifies?
trs86
5/21/2009-12:06pm at 12:06 pm (UTC -4)
But really how does that make sense for them? They are not competing this year and they don’t know if Putz can even close right now.
casestreet
5/21/2009-12:17pm at 12:17 pm (UTC -4)
No way I trade Putz. Come on people, we can’t count on Parnell. Putz is tried and proven, Parnell has shown promise but pales in comparison to Putz.
Plus, I don’t see what he adds to the team. Isn’t he another Tatis?
If Reyes goes down for a while, I’m okay w/ whatever defensive SS we can call up. Having a hitting SS is a luxury, not a necessity. I’d much rather have some good D in the 6 hole than an errors machine, especially w/ neophyte Murphy at 1st.
trs86
5/21/2009-12:21pm at 12:21 pm (UTC -4)
Lets rattle the boat here. What would it take to get DeRosa AND Lee?
qnsnative718
5/21/2009-12:18pm at 12:18 pm (UTC -4)
Yea, you had me scratchin my head there, buddy. lol
joer1
5/21/2009-12:27pm at 12:27 pm (UTC -4)
Listen there is no way Omar touches the bullpen. We need Putz We need Parnell. Have we already forgotten about the last 2 seasons. Omar dont touch the bullpen!!
There's Always '18
5/21/2009-12:31pm at 12:31 pm (UTC -4)
What’s up everyone?
trs86
5/21/2009-12:19pm at 12:19 pm (UTC -4)
True, I guess the point now is that we don’t have Cora, Reyes or Delgado and Derosa plays 1B, 2B, SS (among others). Yesterday I was against it. Today with the Cora news and Reyes potentially out for more, I am rethinking it.
However, I would much rather bring in Wilson as a salary dump.
joer1
5/21/2009-12:32pm at 12:32 pm (UTC -4)
I know its exciting to talk trades and a fresh face is always welcomed. But we need all the arms in the bullpen we can get. Putz can not go anywhere! Parnell is great. I am a big fan but he hasnt even gone around the league once yet. I think its safe to say its a bit premature to hand over the 8th inning to a guy who still is working on his secondary pitches as well. Lets give him some time please.
gravediggerhebner
5/21/2009-12:40pm at 12:40 pm (UTC -4)
This problem is eerily like last season. Omar made (in my opinion) reasonable back up plans for many positions, but wound up having to go much further down the depth chart to ultimately fill them. Now Delgado is gone, and Nick Evans has mysteriously regressed, and with Reyes possibly out, Cora is also down. The trend is bad.
joer1
5/21/2009-12:45pm at 12:45 pm (UTC -4)
I really hope they find out good news on Reyes and Omar can go about concentrating on improving 1B with a big bat or the Outfield with a big bat whichever way he decides. Cmon Reyes jeez!
There's Always '18
5/21/2009-12:33pm at 12:33 pm (UTC -4)
TRS,
Love the foam finger.
joer1
5/21/2009-12:47pm at 12:47 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah doesnt it feel imminent we will hear of a trade from Omar very soon like within a few days. Hope he earns his extension right here with the upcoming moves.
billydeewilliams
5/21/2009-12:47pm at 12:47 pm (UTC -4)
I’m here…and I brought the Colt 45
trs86
5/21/2009-12:35pm at 12:35 pm (UTC -4)
We all agree. The problem is we are not Omar. There is a lot of pressure for the Mets to make a trade and a lot are pushing DeRosa. I don’t want to see them give up Putz but if I had to chose between him and Parnell I am keeping Parnell.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:26pm at 12:26 pm (UTC -4)
In my head for rosa and lee
Maine/niese/kunz
Maine is young and can be under control for a while
Neise is young lefty
Kunz has closer experiance
Lee is compariable to maine but older(i think)
Derosa can play anywhere and still has some pop..plus he graduated from the school of GRIT!! ;p
trs86
5/21/2009-12:16pm at 12:16 pm (UTC -4)
For now it’s trs86.wordpress.com I am looking into getting that changed but I may wait until we see what happens with the NlEastChatter.com site.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:36pm at 12:36 pm (UTC -4)
and theres nothing wrong with what your saying but if the offense cannot score runs and if our big bat is going to be out for that amount of time and who knows if he will be the same when he comes back, its no point in having an awsome bullpen. This is the problem when your a buyer…at the mercy of the other team. The indians dont have to accept any trade we offer and they name the price.
trs86
5/21/2009-12:27pm at 12:27 pm (UTC -4)
I agree, I guess it depends on how much we can trust Parnell. Betancourt throws hard if I remember correctly. He in effect would share Parnell’s role with Stokes.
I just think DeRosa over all is going to cost us too much because of demand.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:23pm at 12:23 pm (UTC -4)
Rafael Betancourt
08:$2.05M, 09:$3.35M, 10:$5.4M club option
Record 1-1 4.79era 23k 11bb
Idk real..i mean im sure the indians would welcome putz over this guy….but we are not getting much in return except derosa who is in his late 30′s and a FA after this year…but its an arm and better than other options from AAA
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:16pm at 12:16 pm (UTC -4)
I think it still makes sense for cleveland as they need bullpen help badly and half of putz is way better than what they have going on there now
gravediggerhebner
5/21/2009-12:48pm at 12:48 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve been looking over the Indians payroll. Would Jhonny Peralta (who has been partially bumped from SS to 3B recently) be useful and attainable? Here’s his contract:
06:$0.5M, 07:$0.75M, 08:$2.25M, 09:$3.4M, 10:$4.6M, 11:$7M 2011 club option ($0.25M buyout)
joer1
5/21/2009-12:49pm at 12:49 pm (UTC -4)
I really really feel we need Nick Johnson on this team. maybe he can teach some players how to be a sucessful hitter. His hitting is so solid
trs86
5/21/2009-12:20pm at 12:20 pm (UTC -4)
True, it’s just they can throw Betancourt as closer right now and it does not matter. They are not going to compete anyway. That’s the reason I think they would ask for Parnell and see if he could do it. If he could not then maybe he goes in the rotation for them.
trs86
5/21/2009-12:29pm at 12:29 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t think Lee for Maine helps us THAT much. I was hoping more along the lines of Niese, Gee, Putz, Church?
trs86
5/21/2009-12:31pm at 12:31 pm (UTC -4)
I think you are right. But knowing how things work our bullpen is our strength so you trade from it to solve a weakness. In turn you make both things slightly above weak. Yeah.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:34pm at 12:34 pm (UTC -4)
I hear ya and i completely agree, but seeing how the offense has looked w/o delgado,reyes,cora and who knows even with deglado back if he is going to be the same…omars gotta do what hes gotta do to give us a shot. As real and I have been posting all day yesterday and today, beltran and wright cant do it all themselves..
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:33pm at 12:33 pm (UTC -4)
oh absolutly it doesnt help us at all but that would probably get the job done
gravediggerhebner
5/21/2009-12:38pm at 12:38 pm (UTC -4)
There is also the looming problem of competition from the Brewers on the trade front. With Weeks out for the season, they may be looking for IF help also.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:39pm at 12:39 pm (UTC -4)
very good point grave
gravediggerhebner
5/21/2009-12:44pm at 12:44 pm (UTC -4)
The Brewers did recently sign Frank Catalanotto (could he have helped the Mets?) but he hasn’t played MIF since 2002.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:45pm at 12:45 pm (UTC -4)
agreed. I wrote ealier that i feel that omar did not make the contigency plans to help us if the worst should happen. The offense is screaming for help at this point and it seems that omar HAS to get something done…this will be the determining factor of the season imo…
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:46pm at 12:46 pm (UTC -4)
and im sure a castillo reunion with willie may be a little out of the quesiton ;p
gravediggerhebner
5/21/2009-12:49pm at 12:49 pm (UTC -4)
Pass that 40 this way Lando!
trs86
5/21/2009-12:49pm at 12:49 pm (UTC -4)
Good deal, welcome aboard.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:53pm at 12:53 pm (UTC -4)
we drink Wiskey here lol j/k welcome aboard buddy
billydeewilliams
5/21/2009-12:49pm at 12:49 pm (UTC -4)
I can’t stand another day of watching Ramon Martinez bat. I’m going to cry if they go into another 9th inning with the catchers spot, then two guys who shouldn’t even be on the roster, let alone playing.
gravediggerhebner
5/21/2009-12:51pm at 12:51 pm (UTC -4)
Unfortunately his bones are not nearly as solid, although I do have more faith in his staying healthy this season than I would others, as it is his FA walk year.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:52pm at 12:52 pm (UTC -4)
nicky would be perfect if not for his injury history..we can trade for him but very well be in this same predicament a few weeks later.
joer1
5/21/2009-12:53pm at 12:53 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed. Very disheartening. A caller on the Fan said it best. He was old school, 82 years old and said he demands a MLB ready player to be playing when he watches the game. He doesnt want his hard earned money going to players learning on the job. That is what the minors are for lol. I know the state of the game has changed in that regard and the Mets arent the only team that does this. But his point was interseting none the less.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:53pm at 12:53 pm (UTC -4)
maybe..but what do we do with him when reyes comes back..alot of money to ride the bench.
joer1
5/21/2009-12:54pm at 12:54 pm (UTC -4)
Worth the risk imo.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
its called mismanagement…a problem the mets have had for years and unfortunatly its catching up to them sooner than later…hopefully we can find a way to salvage this and im afraid it would have to be via trade.
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-12:57pm at 12:57 pm (UTC -4)
i hear ya but the guy will be a FA after this year. Id take Derosa now imo and after this season sign nicky and potentially have derosa on our bench as a super sub or something like that. IDK his injury history is very troubling to me but im sure he is DYING to get out of there.
gravediggerhebner
5/21/2009-12:57pm at 12:57 pm (UTC -4)
You do what TRS was suggesting elsewhere: suck it up this season, and trade Reyes to SD for AGon after the season. Of course then the team has no clear leadoff hitter. And although I vomit a little at the mere thought of trading Reyes, is it possible his early career leg issues have returned?
TheDirtySanchez
5/21/2009-1:03pm at 1:03 pm (UTC -4)
i hope not..i mean he has played i think 3 now solid seasons w/o any leg issues. I dont think this is serious but will be nagging..
joer1
5/21/2009-1:43pm at 1:43 pm (UTC -4)
I hear ya. Interesting plan but going along with what you said why sign him for any long term sort of deal with the possibility of him getting hurt. I would roll the dice with him giving us a few solid months and if worse comes to worse maybe Delgado will be back.
gravediggerhebner
5/21/2009-1:48pm at 1:48 pm (UTC -4)
Ultimately I agree with you on this point joer1. I feel like Nick The Stick has a better chance of making it through 2009 healthy, in his push for a new contract, than he does of making it through his next contract healthy. Unfortunately, there are no obvious (to me) long term answers out there for the Mets at 1B.