According to Peter Gammons:How about other players that could be on the trade block? PG: Well, No Victor Martinez and Cliff Lee are not on the trade block. That’s one of those Internet fabrications that isn’t true. The Indians would trade Mark DeRosa if they got major league pitching. Washington with their 2-16 bullpen are trying to move Nick Johnson and Austin Kearns and some of their semi-attractive veteran players to get relief pitchers. I know they offered Nick Johnson to Boston for Manny Delcarmen.
That hasn’t happened and may not until the Red Sox make a decision on David Ortiz. It’s early for trades to happen, but at the same time the Padres/White Sox deal is a reminder that now more teams are interested because more teams believe they have a chance to win in May or early June. And also if you trade for a player before June 1 you get four months of service rather than the two months. I think if there were a trade right now it’s far better for the seller and the buyer.
31 comments
TheDirtySanchez
5/22/2009-12:32pm at 12:32 pm (UTC -4)
I wouldnt mind giving up kunz for nick…or sean green for that matter. Call up figgy for the pen and we have someone that can be relied upon to throw strikes and absorb some innings until the “reconstructed” ollie comes up. Wonder who the indians are wanting for rosa?
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-12:35pm at 12:35 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t know about him statistically speaking, but in watching some Red Sox games I’ve thought Delcarmen is pretty good, and is used in fairly important roles for them. I think that means they’re looking for Parnell for Nick Johnson. I would prefer to avoid that.
casestreet
5/22/2009-12:36pm at 12:36 pm (UTC -4)
So in 07, Omar traded for Luis Castillo after Jose Valentin went down.
In 08, Omar traded for Luis Ayala when Billy Wagner went down.
Which Luis will Omar bring in this year? My money is on Luis Gonzalez.
metsfan4decades
5/22/2009-12:41pm at 12:41 pm (UTC -4)
Anyone that would give up Parnell for Johnson is crazy.
Are we really that desperate?
However….much as I wouldn’t like to see it, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Putz in a trade.
casestreet
5/22/2009-12:43pm at 12:43 pm (UTC -4)
There is no way in HELL Omar touches the bullpen. No way in HELL.
dentulous
5/22/2009-12:48pm at 12:48 pm (UTC -4)
Omar would be the dumbest GM and human being on the planet if he gave up Parnell. He has great stuff, is young and under control.
i think he is gonna be next years setup guy. i dont think Putz is gonna be around next year. We need Bobby.
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-1:43pm at 1:43 pm (UTC -4)
This would seem to go here in ‘today’s rumors’:
Mike Francesa claims that the Phillies are looking at trading for Peavy. After my jaw dropped when I heard him say that, I googled “Peavy Phillies” and found nothing relevant or current. MLBTR has a link to MLB.com Phillies beat writer who apparently suggested the idea himself as a possibility, then approached Philly GM Amaro whose response was “we don’t discuss trades.” I would say it’s not a hot topic.
trs86
5/22/2009-12:33pm at 12:33 pm (UTC -4)
Major league ready pitching is what Gammons says. I would hope that Niese would do it but I don’t know. Kunz was pitching terribly last I looked. Take a look at Delcarmen’s stats (click on his name). For sure they would want Parnell.
trs86
5/22/2009-12:36pm at 12:36 pm (UTC -4)
That’s what I am thinking too. The kid as an ERA under 1.00 right now. I guess the Nats are starting by asking high. Maybe if we threw quantity instead of quality we could avoid giving up Parnell? Something like Green, Kunz, and another AAA reliever?
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-12:40pm at 12:40 pm (UTC -4)
My guess would be that offer is much like what they already have on their Washington-Syracuse (is that their AAA team? I think so) shuttle, and they would only bite on that if they just didn’t get another offer. Hopefully they would be so afraid that Johnson will pull up lame any moment they’ll just take it.
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-12:41pm at 12:41 pm (UTC -4)
Isn’t Gonzalez a free agent? I think for continuity sake we need to find a current major league Luis for Omar to acquire. Ayala is probably available again…
trs86
5/22/2009-12:44pm at 12:44 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed, although with that pen I could not imagine that even Green would not be an upgrade.
trs86
5/22/2009-12:44pm at 12:44 pm (UTC -4)
I hope you are right. Unless it is someone like Green or the under used Stokes.
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-12:45pm at 12:45 pm (UTC -4)
…Minnesota could probably be nudged to part with his 1.623 WHIP.
Luis Montanez? Luis Perdomo? Dustin Luis Pedroia? (I’m serious, that’s his middle name).
casestreet
5/22/2009-12:57pm at 12:57 pm (UTC -4)
yeah, I couldn’t find any. Maybe that’s a good thing. I wouldn’t mind a ROY, instead.
trs86
5/22/2009-12:45pm at 12:45 pm (UTC -4)
Putz is too damaged right now to trade. I don’t see that until at the deadline if at all.
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-12:47pm at 12:47 pm (UTC -4)
Nice call on Stokes. He could probably immediately step in as their closer, certainly as their set up man.
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-12:54pm at 12:54 pm (UTC -4)
Absofreakinlutely!
trs86
5/22/2009-12:59pm at 12:59 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed, but did you look at Delcarman’s stats? Very Parnell like if not better.
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-12:59pm at 12:59 pm (UTC -4)
Luis arROYo retired in 1963.
Oh, nevermind. Have a good Halladay weekend!
trs86
5/22/2009-1:45pm at 1:45 pm (UTC -4)
I had heard that before. I just don’t know if they have the prospects. Maybe if they sent Vicki, Werth, Happ ?
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-1:47pm at 1:47 pm (UTC -4)
Here’s what that beat writer (Todd Zolecki) had to say about it:
“The Phillies have the talent to make the trade. They were believed to be the runner-up last year for CC Sabathia, but the Indians wanted a power-hitting corner outfielder close to the big leagues, which the Phillies did not have. The White Sox reportedly were prepared to send top pitching prospects Aaron Poreda and Clayton Richard and two other Minor League pitchers in the Peavy deal. The Phillies could match that in terms of talent. Carlos Carrasco, Lou Marson, Jason Donald, Kyle Drabek, Joe Savery, Michael Taylor and Dominic Brown are top-level prospects that could land somebody like Peavy.”
trs86
5/22/2009-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
So my question is, IF they have top level pitching prospects then why the hell are they trotting out terrible SP each night?
gravediggerhebner
5/22/2009-2:01pm at 2:01 pm (UTC -4)
Well, here is what a very wise person said on this very blog in another thread earlier today:
“Those vets are struggling but chances are they get it before the guys in the minors do.”
Theres Always 2010
5/22/2009-2:04pm at 2:04 pm (UTC -4)
As an optimist, I couldn’t give up Parnell for a piece of the puzzle that will be on the bench from August-the end of the season. That’s where Nick Johnson would be when Delgado comes back.
Theres Always 2010
5/22/2009-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
Have Omar break out the now infamous “trade lube”.
Theres Always 2010
5/22/2009-2:06pm at 2:06 pm (UTC -4)
Hope to “hit” the beaches on this Holliday.
Theres Always 2010
5/22/2009-2:08pm at 2:08 pm (UTC -4)
Haha…
well, like an overweight head football coach in Minneapolis once said, “they are who we thought they were!!!” that holds true for blanton, moyer, chan ho park, and bret myers. those guys are who we thought they were. they just aren’t that good.
trs86
5/22/2009-2:20pm at 2:20 pm (UTC -4)
Nice catch.
Theres Always 2010
5/22/2009-2:32pm at 2:32 pm (UTC -4)
I actually like J.A. Happ. Think he can be a very solid starter for them and perhaps a #3 starter in the future.
trs86
5/22/2009-2:38pm at 2:38 pm (UTC -4)
I am not sure I would chose him over Maine if we had to pick.