Per Fox Sports,
“The Mets definitely are interested in Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson, according to a major-league source. Johnson could replace the injured Carlos Delgado and push Daniel Murphy back to the outfield. Murphy then could return to first next season; both Johnson and Delgado are potential free agents.
The Marlins’ Jorge Cantu, who is not a free agent until after ’10, is another trade possibility at first, but the Mets probably would prefer a left-handed hitter such as Johnson if they replace the left-handed Delgado. Their OPS against lefties is the best in the NL, but they rank only ninth against righties.”
I was pushing for Aubrey Huff but I wont be dissapointed if we pull off a trade for Nick Johnson. I’m very skeptical of him though. He’s missed alot of time over the past few years due to some freak injuries, but the fact that they’re “freak” injuries can be a good thing, as opossed to having nagging elbow or hamstring issues.
With that said, Beltran, Sheffield and Wright have been doing everything and more during this period of flux for Mets position players, but how long can they carry the work load? Nick Johnson, would provide extra pop and stability to a lineup in disarray.
142 comments
trs86
5/26/2009-12:29pm at 12:29 pm (UTC -4)
The problem that I have is what happens with Murphy? He does not really have a role in the OF. Sheff needs to be playing as much as possible. So unless Church goes and Sheff ends up in RF, poor Beltran, I don’t see how it works. I guess you could platoon Sheff and Murphy but doesn’t Murphy need to be playing full time if we have ANY hopes of him playing 1B next year?
QnsNative718
5/26/2009-12:42pm at 12:42 pm (UTC -4)
I agree about Murphy, but wouldnt that be the plan if Delgado was healthy? Murph was an insecure OF when Delgado was healthy and he was an insecure OF when he got hurt. The point Im trying to make is, the experiment with Murphy playing Left field was a big time mistake. With that said, he’ll best be served as a platoon with Sheffield but with Shef getting more starts.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-12:32pm at 12:32 pm (UTC -4)
I still believe the mets are better served with Derosa. Daniel seems to handle 1b well and i feel way more confortable with him at 1b than him in the OF again. Its a small sample size but if daniel works out at 1b, the beauty of derosa is..he can just play somewhere else like SS for example. IMO you get more bang for your buck with a guy like derosa that plays other positions than nick who just plays 1b…i mean do we want murphy to gain his exp next year when he can gain a lot more this year. We can evaluate daniel more by giving him this year so when the offseason comes we can assess if we need nick since he is a FA. IMO the mets shoudl be targeting derosa.
trs86
5/26/2009-12:47pm at 12:47 pm (UTC -4)
I used to not be too sold on DeRosa but that was when Jose and Cora were healthy and Castillo was hitting well. Now I am not so sure. I guess it just depends on how well he can play short. He does not have a ton of experience there. I am not concerned really that he can play OF we have enough of those anyway.
I still like Jack Wilson but he would really only be a backup SS maybe 2B so that is not as good as DeRosa. Of course he should not cost as much either. My fear remains that DeRosa cost us MUCH more than he is worth.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-12:58pm at 12:58 pm (UTC -4)
and your probably right…but omar shouldnt give up the farm for derosa or jack but if omar or the team does not think daniel can hack it at 1b and dont feel tatis is a good enough back up…derosa does have exp at 1b as well.
saltygary
5/26/2009-12:44pm at 12:44 pm (UTC -4)
If Murph is going to be the 1st baseman of the future, then they need to stop screwing with him and let him play. With the team so decimated, this is the perfect time to let him get his barrings. Have him play the year (or until Delgado gets back) and that way the front office can make a better decision of whats going to be done for next season. If the team want to trade for offense then get someone for OF. Sheff has been great and I hope he lasts all year, but he will need some days office. Church has not proven that he should be out there on a full time basis.
trs86
5/26/2009-12:48pm at 12:48 pm (UTC -4)
What do you guys think our best course of action should be? Is a trade with the Tigers for Maggs to play RF a better option?
charlies
5/26/2009-12:50pm at 12:50 pm (UTC -4)
it’s more like if the mets trade for nick, murphy goes to aaa.
QnsNative718
5/26/2009-12:52pm at 12:52 pm (UTC -4)
Yea that seems like the practical way to go about it.
QnsNative718
5/26/2009-12:50pm at 12:50 pm (UTC -4)
Question. If we trade for Johnson, what happens to him when Delgado returns?
trs86
5/26/2009-12:58pm at 12:58 pm (UTC -4)
Another good question. I guess they could split time but I don’t see that happening. Johnson has never played the OF has he?
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-12:59pm at 12:59 pm (UTC -4)
lol bench….thats why i think derosa is a better deal in that when delgado comes back you dont have to worry about competition for starting 1bman.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-12:51pm at 12:51 pm (UTC -4)
I think the Mets need to stick with Murphy at 1B. If he hits and fields passably, that should be in the majors. Then the ‘happy’problem is what to do with the roster logjam if Delgado comes back. If his hitting slump continues for some indeterminate period (but not too long, maybe 10 more games?) then he should be sent to AAA and made Buffalo’s everyday 1B for the purpose of helping to determine if he is indeed the Mets’ solution at 1B for 2010 and beyond.
If it unfolds the way in which Murphy does go to AAA for this purpose, I agree with Dirty that the Mets should do what it takes (within reason) to get DeRosa. DeRosa could primarily but not exclusively play 1B for the balance of June and until (if) Delgado comes back, and if Delgado returns then take advantage of DeRosa’s versatility by moving him around the diamond to give other guys a rest, as something of a super utility guy who basically starts 5-6 games a week, but at different positions.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:07pm at 1:07 pm (UTC -4)
A problem I also have with DeRosa is that he has not played more than 20 games at SS since 2001. He has also played less than 15 games at 1B in his career.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:12pm at 1:12 pm (UTC -4)
but im sure he has done well in both. I guess it boils down really to tatis. If(for arguement sake) daniel is starting 1bman then tatis is teh back up. If they feel that tatis is better served as a backup to the outfield than a derosa player woudl be fine as it gives the mets flexability to use tatis and rosa where they see fit. If they are ok with tatis as a back up then as you said real jack wilson would do just fine. All depends on evaluation…
trs86
5/26/2009-1:14pm at 1:14 pm (UTC -4)
Ok lets play either of these situations out a little bit. Cora and Delgado comes back. What do they do with Wilson OR Derosa?
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:22pm at 1:22 pm (UTC -4)
DeRosa at least can serve as a UT, a “Super Joe” of sorts. Wilson has NEVER played anywhere but SS.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:31pm at 1:31 pm (UTC -4)
wilson would be harder to deal with imo than derosa. Derosa was a bench player i believe on the cubs when he was there and he did fine. Jack has always been a starter for the pirates and will be an issue with playing time. We already got cora backing up castillo and reyes usually doesnt have injury problems…
jonnyballgame
5/26/2009-1:09pm at 1:09 pm (UTC -4)
What is DeRosa worth at this point? Eddie Kunz? more? To me DeRosa’s the way to go, he is the ultimate super sub that can also start everyday. Not sure why we would even consider Nick Johnson over him. Nick’s price tag is way to high.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:12pm at 1:12 pm (UTC -4)
According to reports, they are seeking major league pitching. Honestly I think Parnell would be HIGH on their list. Thing is they can just chose to wait it out for a while too. If they can’t get Parnell from us now then see where we are in June and July. They really are in the driver’s seat.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:14pm at 1:14 pm (UTC -4)
yea but at june or july
reyes and cora should be back plus gado will be just coming back..imo it would lessen the need for us at that point to get him so wouldnt that make us in the divers seat if we want him now?
trs86
5/26/2009-1:15pm at 1:15 pm (UTC -4)
You have a good point, IF we are the only ones on the market for him. I really have no idea besides us, RSox and Brewers who are looking. The Braves are a little then there as well.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:17pm at 1:17 pm (UTC -4)
I think that’s why whatever need exists now for MI is going to have to be solved from within. If the Mets determine they must have someone else on the ML roster at 2B/SS they’re going to have to suck up the rule 5/arbitration implications and call someone up.
Because IMO the only viable guy to get is DeRosa, because he is still a useful part on a roster that includes Reyes, Cora and even Delgado.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:15pm at 1:15 pm (UTC -4)
That is the monkey wrench in any potential Met trade. It’s not like the Mets’ injuries are secrets. Any trade partner knows the situation, and will do everything the can to get as much as they can. Plus unless I’m missing something, none of the other 29 teams are in a situation where they ‘must’ trade someone.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:16pm at 1:16 pm (UTC -4)
Detroit is getting close with Maggs. If he reaches a certain AB’s this year a lofty option kicks in. They are trying to limit his AB’s but you know the player, agent and MLBPA don’t go for that stuff.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:19pm at 1:19 pm (UTC -4)
Problem with Maggs IMO is that he’s “at least” 35, and his extra base pop has completely disappeared. I drafted him for my fantasy team and plugged in .300/20/100, and 10 days ago I cut him because he was an anchor dragging my team into the bottom half of the standings.
The Mets got lucky with a resurgent Tiger in Sheffield. Can they get lucky twice?
trs86
5/26/2009-1:21pm at 1:21 pm (UTC -4)
Great question, Detroit would have to eat a ton of salary and take on some contracts. Maybe Schnieder or Castro. I am not sure it’s a fit.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:23pm at 1:23 pm (UTC -4)
Wouldn’t touch Maggs. We have a solution on the farm and it’s time to play that hand.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:16pm at 1:16 pm (UTC -4)
Well, after last night’s performance, Washington may ask for Parnell and Pelfrey. Wow, Parnell was bad. Still wouldn’t have booed him off the field, but he was bad.
jonnyballgame
5/26/2009-1:18pm at 1:18 pm (UTC -4)
Omar has been talking up Parnell for the past few seasons and rightfully so. The kid is Dynamite! If he was untouchable last season he better not be even in the conversation this season. Bobby P is big time.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:21pm at 1:21 pm (UTC -4)
I think he can be more than a solid contributor at this level. Hopefully, he can develop command of his off speed stuff a little bit more.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:16pm at 1:16 pm (UTC -4)
We want F-Mart. We want F-Mart.
joer
5/26/2009-1:18pm at 1:18 pm (UTC -4)
IDK what the hell is going on with this team and injuries. Our medical staff is…well…idk… Now they are talking about the DL again with Reyes. Beltran getting an MRI, lets hope for the best. Church good news so far but wouldnt be surprised to hear he tweaked it again in his first game back. Cora, Martinez, etc. We are holding on by strings. Credit to Manuel and the players but Omar NEEDS to bring in some help for Jerry. We are one big injury away from a disaster. Knock on wood! Lets go Mets..we are continuing to hold on but our team obviuously is not OK at this point I just hope Omar isnt waiting for bad things to happen and makes a move before we go into an 8 game skid. The bright side is the upcoming schedule though.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:19pm at 1:19 pm (UTC -4)
On the bright side, our lineup may start to look like the AAA-Buffalo lineup. They have started to win some games.
Promote F-Mart!!!
joer
5/26/2009-1:27pm at 1:27 pm (UTC -4)
Haha…yeah he will come up if Beltran or Church miss any time.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:20pm at 1:20 pm (UTC -4)
Ok guys, should we try and trade Church for IF/OF depth and call up Fmart? TA10, you don’t have to respond.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:21pm at 1:21 pm (UTC -4)
Yes!
Even if Church isn’t traded, he should be DL’d. Someone needs to go on the DL, unless Rick Aguilera is coming back to pinch hit in a crucial spot because we are out of bench players after the 5th inning.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:26pm at 1:26 pm (UTC -4)
I think church should be part of w/e trade we do as a compliment piece. I dont think he is adequitly used here and he can help “sweeten” a deal so to speak. I have pros and cons with fmart and really more cons than pros. I mean is the kid going to get playing time?? If not i prefer him to stay where he is and get his ab’s in the minors to make up for lost time due to injury. Also the mets have to be sure that he will play next year for them full time or else the whole rule 5 draft thing starts up again. I would assume however that fmart will play for the team next year so he most likely will get the call over a guy like malo who would address our IF needs but wont really be on the roster come next year and omar will have to deal with the proection and stuff…its not an easy decision by any means…
jonnyballgame
5/26/2009-1:28pm at 1:28 pm (UTC -4)
I will pack his bags. Something is just off with Church. He plays joyless baseball and I’m not a fan
joer
5/26/2009-1:21pm at 1:21 pm (UTC -4)
Haha Frnacesa said the only way the Mets medical staff makes the right diagnosis and whether to put a player on the DL is if the player is actually laying on the field, unable to get up, with broken bones lol. Fat man makes me laugh somethimes!
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:23pm at 1:23 pm (UTC -4)
Did he comment on how the Mets played the big boys this week and the Phils had to step up in class to see how good they really are? Probably not.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:24pm at 1:24 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, often when he does his opening trashing the Mets it’s to cover a Yankee loss the day before, but they won 11-1 yesterday. I guess he didn’t have a good Memorial Day.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:26pm at 1:26 pm (UTC -4)
Did he talk about his ace losing to the Phillies? Did he talk about the $300MM in starting pitchers that lost this weekend for his team?
joer
5/26/2009-1:29pm at 1:29 pm (UTC -4)
I’m not the biggest fan of Francesa but he sometimes rips the Yankees almost as much as the Mets. I mean before Yanks went on this win streak he was ripping them bad and ripping the organization.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:38pm at 1:38 pm (UTC -4)
Totally fair, he does rip the Yanks.
But here’s an example of what I think is his hypocrisy.
He says “everybody complains about Joba and his demonstrations, what about KRod?”
To me the difference is Joba is striking a guy out to end the 4th inning and ‘pumping the fist.’ KRod is ending a game, getting a save, preserving a win. Big difference IMO.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:43pm at 1:43 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve also never heard him say…
“everybody complains about reyes’ dancing and handshakes. what about jeter’s handshakes?”
trs86
5/26/2009-1:23pm at 1:23 pm (UTC -4)
What about Chad Tracy, I have mentioned him before. He is hitting terrible this year. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery. He can play IF and OF and should be cheaper than DeRosa.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:25pm at 1:25 pm (UTC -4)
TRS, you’re my boy – but I don’t think this team needs another guy that is a utility/bench kind of player. We have plenty of that. We either need to promote from within, or trade for an everyday starter. Don’t think we can trade away pieces that we may need to include in a deal for a better player. Just my opinion.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:27pm at 1:27 pm (UTC -4)
I would not normally consider Tracy a bench guy. He is terrible this year but puts up solid enough stats. I don’t think it would cost much to get him.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:28pm at 1:28 pm (UTC -4)
I actually think we need soemthing in the middle..a super sub. A guy who can play various positions because lets face it
reyes will be back
gado will be back
cora will be back
These guys will be back EVENTUALLY..what happens then to the “starter” we traded for…The mets need someone that can go on the bench for a few games when our true starters come back.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
That’s why IMO Nick Johnson or Jack Wilson won’t be coming, and why Mark DeRosa or Chad Tracy are at least somewhat viable.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:31pm at 1:31 pm (UTC -4)
Nothing is guaranteed with Delgado. The guy is 37 yrs old and coming off pretty serious hip surgery.
Reyes injury may be nagging all season.
Beltran will hopefully be OK. Who knows if Church’s injury is a phantom injury.
They have been playing short handed for too long. Time to make a roster move and promote someone.
My main point is, in trading for a super-sub, they may lose two of the chips they’ll need to bring in a starting pitcher at the deadline.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:37pm at 1:37 pm (UTC -4)
Our starting pitching has been doing well actually…pelf and maine have improved dramatically and livan/redding have been doing their job. Dont know if we really “NEED” a starting pitching n e more. I agree they have been playing shorthanded and u guys said they called up malo. Roster mismanagement has been a problem with this club for a while. I dont think they need to give up major chips for a derosa or a tracy compaired to a nick johnson or a aubrey huff…we are in the drivers seat imo
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:42pm at 1:42 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t think they’d have to give up major chips either. But, let’s say for the sake of argument – cleveland wants kunz and pagan for derosa…two less chips for us to trade if/when we need someone else.
If we need a middle infielder, I’d call Easley.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:50pm at 1:50 pm (UTC -4)
if the indians want kunz and pagan for derosa…omar had better be on the phone getting that done lol
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:27pm at 1:27 pm (UTC -4)
Interesting possibility. The DBacks are in a transition period of sorts, they could probably be prodded to part with him. He doesn’t help with any MI at all, but he can step in at any corner spot.
Pope Mike just said the Mets brought up Malo?
trs86
5/26/2009-1:28pm at 1:28 pm (UTC -4)
Ramon being sent down due to “injuries”?
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:29pm at 1:29 pm (UTC -4)
I can’t find anything yet. Trust but verify!
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:29pm at 1:29 pm (UTC -4)
They are bringing up the wrong guy. They should bring up F-Mart. Guys like Angel Pagan and Jeremy Reed are OK, but not to see everyday for an extended period of time. Bring up the guy that you claim is the future in RF/LF. Don’t know why this team is so reluctant to call guys up.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:32pm at 1:32 pm (UTC -4)
We know you love you some Fmart. IF it’s Church going to the DL then I agree but what if Reyes has to go to the DL? What if Martinez is old and broken? Ok, he already is. Still it just depends on what the move is in response to.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:37pm at 1:37 pm (UTC -4)
I think Reyes and Church need to go on the DL. They should put some Turbo Lax in Martinez’s coffee. That should get rid of him for 15 days. Then they have to bring up kids.
Bring up F-Mart, A. Reyes (or Malo, or Tejada). Let’s face it, we’ll get nothing but the possibility of pinch hitting out of Church for the next 7 days.
Don’t know what this organization is scared of. He is starting to hit and confidence is high. Promote him now. Would you rather they wait until he gets ice cold?
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:34pm at 1:34 pm (UTC -4)
what good is fmart going to do if he doesnt get a chance to play….we already have 4 outfielders on the club…
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:39pm at 1:39 pm (UTC -4)
We have 4 outfielders…very true. Let’s analyze the situation more closely:
Reed- sucks as a starter; needs to have a reduced role to be valuable.
Pagan- eh. doesnt’ move me. can platoon or be a bench player.
sheffield- is 40 yrs old. at some point the returns will be diminishing due to not being on steroids anymore and fatigue setting in
church- hurt right now. could split time with sheff when he is ready to return
if one of the outfielders needs to get lost, it should be reed.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:48pm at 1:48 pm (UTC -4)
you forgot tatis. I think your evaluation is not entirely accurate but i really dont think he will get playing time(fmart) and that only hurts us and him.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:53pm at 1:53 pm (UTC -4)
I think Tatis should be manning 1B right now.
Not a big Murphy fan. I like the spark he brought last year, but that very well could have been lightning in a bottle. If you like your 1B to be like that guy in the SF Giants, Murph is your guy. Without the glove.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:57pm at 1:57 pm (UTC -4)
i think he has more upside than the guy in san fran.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:57pm at 1:57 pm (UTC -4)
I’d love him to be like Travis Ishikawa yesterday: 4-4, 3 R, 1 HR, 3 RBI
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-2:09pm at 2:09 pm (UTC -4)
Exactly. That was the first HR that San Fran got from their 1B. My feeling on 1B is the same as catcher. If you can’t hit a lick, you better be lock down defensively.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
Ok while I am throwing out ideas.
Mets get: Byrnes (and his terrible contract 11 million each for 09 and 10) and Felipe Lopez.
Dbacks get: Castillo and Church. Dbacks save 6 million over all. Mets get another OF to take Church’s spot, rid of Castillo’s contract and a productive 2B that can play SS too.
Ok, let the discussion begin.
Or you could just try and trade for Felipe Lopez, but what fun is that?
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-1:33pm at 1:33 pm (UTC -4)
buy why would they need castillo if they have lopez and church is not much of an improvement over byrnes to warrent them overlooking the castillo issue. I dont know…i think ths ship with the dbacks has sailed once they said no to the byrnes/castillo trade…
joer
5/26/2009-1:33pm at 1:33 pm (UTC -4)
Castillo not a met?? DONE!!!
lol
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:34pm at 1:34 pm (UTC -4)
Mets already have someone that can take Church’s spot!
Why do the Yanks bring up a kid in teh minors when there is an emergency, yet the Mets look to trade for a “super sub” kind of guy that will create even more of a log jam when the regulars come back?
Send down Reed. DL Church. Bring up F-Mart. Bring up Malo or Tejada. Can’t be afraid to give these kids a shot.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:43pm at 1:43 pm (UTC -4)
TRS, given that this is your blog, shouldn’t this be a post as opposed to a discussion within a post? Just wonderin’.
-Matt C.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:55pm at 1:55 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, but I would NEVER just post to post unlike the other blog.
dentulous
5/26/2009-1:33pm at 1:33 pm (UTC -4)
So, if Beltrans MRI does not go well, does anyone else think they will have to bring up F-Mart? I would rather not see him up yet, but I doubt Reed and Pagan can come close to Matching Beltrans production. F-Mart probably wont either, but at least he will see consistent play time and probably be more productive than Reed/Pagan.
On that note, I really hope Beltran is ok.
joer
5/26/2009-1:34pm at 1:34 pm (UTC -4)
If Church or Beltran go out for any amount of time Fmart will be called up without a doubt imo.
joer
5/26/2009-1:38pm at 1:38 pm (UTC -4)
Wow Murphy is hitting .246 ouch!
Between Church and Murphy in the month of May they have 1 RBI.
I mean if he doesnt hit at 1B how long until he’s demoted to AAA. Yes at this point with the injuries its hard to get rid of a healthy body but if any team wants Murphy in a trade i dont think Omar would hesitate ONE bit!
joer
5/26/2009-1:38pm at 1:38 pm (UTC -4)
Sorry maybe a few more RBI’s on Murph listening wrong
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:40pm at 1:40 pm (UTC -4)
“Wow Murphy is hitting .246 ouch!”
I’m not surprised. Rico Brogna without the glove.
mrose
5/26/2009-1:41pm at 1:41 pm (UTC -4)
anyone else find it as the pot calling the kettle black where on the other place, they put up a post entitled “Attention to detail” and calling out the mets and what not??
lol
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:45pm at 1:45 pm (UTC -4)
Good thing Omirosa from The Apprentice isn’t here. She would not appreciate that saying.
I’m not sure I get it though. Are you talking about on Metsblog?
mrose
5/26/2009-1:47pm at 1:47 pm (UTC -4)
yes..sorry “the other site” = metsblog
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:48pm at 1:48 pm (UTC -4)
are you in m.c.’s “Fab 50″?
mrose
5/26/2009-1:53pm at 1:53 pm (UTC -4)
i highly doubt it
trs86
5/26/2009-1:45pm at 1:45 pm (UTC -4)
LOL
kingman26
5/26/2009-1:48pm at 1:48 pm (UTC -4)
Man, you read my mind! Didn’t want to overdo the criticism of the other place, but what a JOKE! Metsblog calling out someone else’s attention to detail? Mike Nichols could not spell his name right without help if his life depended on it.
In addition, the specifics were idiotic—”…that said, it’s an excellent pick up by joe…”–give me a break, the announcers and every fan watching noticed this the second it happened.
And “…well, it is excusable, unfortunately, because wright will most certainly start today, and i doubt he will be disciplined in any way… “—so Matt thinks Wright should be benched for this?
Metsblog = WFAN.com without the professionalism….
trs86
5/26/2009-1:50pm at 1:50 pm (UTC -4)
Good god, seriously did we take all of the intelligence out of that place when we left? What an incredibly stupid post.
kingman26
5/26/2009-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
LOL! it has been amazing over there….silly posts like this, and the errors, mis-spellings, and just plain wrong facts have multiplied.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:54pm at 1:54 pm (UTC -4)
You think we have just been paying more attention to that? What I really noticed this year was how much Cerrone was playing up the fanbase against each other. That was something I know we all commented on. We win and he is singing the praises, so much to get the boo birds out to comment. We lose and the sky is falling so bad it gets us out to comment.
mrose
5/26/2009-1:57pm at 1:57 pm (UTC -4)
it got to the point you wouldn’t see me comment or even go to the site after a loss…MAYBE i’d look at the headlines but only for anything other than an OPINION: article
dentulous
5/26/2009-2:00pm at 2:00 pm (UTC -4)
exactly, too many whiners after a loss. It was awful. I avoided the comment section like the plague after a loss.
trs86
5/26/2009-2:02pm at 2:02 pm (UTC -4)
As I have said many times, I just remember the ole days. When Metsblog was full of intelligent Met fans that would come and discuss Mets issues. If a troll ever came in the entire board ran him off (including Cerrone).
Those days are gone but I tell you guys what, this thing here has been going on only a few days and it’s already almost there.
mrose
5/26/2009-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
for the record, i understand naysayers come out after a loss..but like here for example, the writers won’t make posts JUSt for the sake of more people
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:50pm at 1:50 pm (UTC -4)
I love when tehy say…”over on that other station”…when callers call up and say, “a little bit up the dial”.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:48pm at 1:48 pm (UTC -4)
According to Howard Megdal / SNY.tv
If your house burned down twice in a week, you’d make sure you had fire insurance, right? Ramon Martinez at shortstop is the house burning down. And right now, what passes for fire insurance appears to be Fernando Tatis.
The Mets need a stopgap shortstop. If they really wanted to lock in their gains, they could get a shortstop in exchange for a player whose trade value will never be higher: Omir Santos.
LOL, I have read some incredible articles today. One guy from Fox commented that the Mets should trade for Peavey RIGHT NOW. Peavy would be willing to go because we would pick up the option.
Now we have a guy wanting us to trade Santos for a SS, while saying how bad Santos is. What SS do you expect to get for Santos? Really?
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:49pm at 1:49 pm (UTC -4)
I play shortstop.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
Eh, you are too valuable on here for us to take Santos. Really what could Santos provide us on here?
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:54pm at 1:54 pm (UTC -4)
He could be the resident barber. Ever notice how his beard and hair are always the same length? Amazing. Rather, amazin’.
kingman26
5/26/2009-1:50pm at 1:50 pm (UTC -4)
Ramon may not be Ozzie Smith or even Rafael Santana, but he has sure looked a lot better lately….and you sure are right about Santos….
trs86
5/26/2009-1:52pm at 1:52 pm (UTC -4)
These guys amaze me King. Seriously, does Howard Megdal / SNY.tv actually think Santos could bring back a SS? One better than Ramon Martinez, Awful Reyes, Malo?
What could he get us? Bobby Crosby?
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
I enjoy Howard Megdal’s writing (you may recall the post I did here about him) but he likely has an agenda. He has written at least one article at the New York Observer praising Ramon Castro, AND he is the sponsor of Ramon Castro’s baseball-reference page.
trs86
5/26/2009-1:53pm at 1:53 pm (UTC -4)
That’s fine. I understand the point there. But trade Santos for a SS? LOL. You can’t say this guy stinks we should trade him for a decent backup, especially a SS backup.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-1:56pm at 1:56 pm (UTC -4)
Perhaps he is awaiting Ramon Castro / Lord Helmet bobblehead day.
dentulous
5/26/2009-1:55pm at 1:55 pm (UTC -4)
yea that guy at fox sports, dan, is a moron. Peavy said middle america. Last i checked, that did not include flushing… would be nice, but i doubt he would approve and i doubt we are giving up F-mart, with no one in LF next year and he is as MLB ready as a prospect can be.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-2:11pm at 2:11 pm (UTC -4)
Yea, but we probably won’t bring him up until he is 25. Look at his power numbers down there. He is leading the IL in extra base hits. It’s crazy that he isn’t up here yet, with the injuries we’ve had. We refuse to DL people, even when we have a guy that could come up and get a taste of the big leagues. Instead, Omar continues to go with Jeremy Reed and Angel Pagan.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-2:15pm at 2:15 pm (UTC -4)
I’m OK with keeping FMart down on the farm for this reason, and pretty much this reason only: he has yet to play a full, healthy season at any level. The most games he’s EVER played in one season is 90. I would like to let him prove he can play one full season before rewarding him with first class flights and per diems. If he makes it through this year, next year at age 21 he can start to prove to us if he’s Justin Upton or Alex Escobar.
trs86
5/26/2009-2:16pm at 2:16 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t have a problem with Pagan and Reed being the backups. What I don’t understand is why we play short handed so often. See my previous post.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-2:01pm at 2:01 pm (UTC -4)
Whatever QnsNative718 had for breakfast, I want some.
His posts get lots of comments.
trs86
5/26/2009-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, but most of them are not on topic. The Gestapo would not be pleased.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-2:09pm at 2:09 pm (UTC -4)
TRS, time to close down teh comments section.
QnsNative718
5/26/2009-2:25pm at 2:25 pm (UTC -4)
Yes, TRS, please close it down. We are supossed to be talking about Nick Freakin Johnson here! I dont want to see any comments about Bobby Crosby or Omir Santos’ pretty eye brows! This is not the way to run a blog!!!!!!!
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-2:26pm at 2:26 pm (UTC -4)
he does have pretty eyebrows though ;p
QnsNative718
5/26/2009-2:32pm at 2:32 pm (UTC -4)
lol yea he’s a pretty boy alright.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-2:26pm at 2:26 pm (UTC -4)
lol yea qnz hit a hr today lol
trs86
5/26/2009-2:27pm at 2:27 pm (UTC -4)
Or the fact that we have slowed down posting a little. Maybe not a bad idea. That being said we are playing the Nats today and news is VERY slow. Everyone in a holding pattern until they either decide to play or DL Church and Reyes.
QnsNative718
5/26/2009-2:33pm at 2:33 pm (UTC -4)
Hey, hey, hey dont steal my glory. ha!
mrose
5/26/2009-2:28pm at 2:28 pm (UTC -4)
so, mr north jersey has again helped with his photoshop expertise… check the forum logos out
http://nleastchatter.com/
trs86
5/26/2009-2:30pm at 2:30 pm (UTC -4)
Nice, you gotta get him to work on a banner for this site.
mrose
5/26/2009-2:34pm at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)
check out the image request forum on the forum, wow that was a horrible sentence
maybe I should say the word forum more?
anyway, on the forum, there is a subforum of the forum named GENERAL which has a post within the forum which allows you to post your request.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-2:49pm at 2:49 pm (UTC -4)
sooo…is it safe to say we have a forum on ths site? ;p
mrose
5/26/2009-2:51pm at 2:51 pm (UTC -4)
we might
QnsNative718
5/26/2009-2:33pm at 2:33 pm (UTC -4)
Yea I noticed it earlier and I love it.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-2:47pm at 2:47 pm (UTC -4)
guys that is really looking good.. i cant wait till we get the other teams sites up…the forums combined with the blogs AND the daily posts…i have never seen anything like it.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-2:51pm at 2:51 pm (UTC -4)
That’s purdy. I kind of briefly noticed the discussion last night about the antennas as the letter “A” and I like how that was resolved. It will make the Braves’ blog feel special.
metsfan4decades
5/26/2009-2:43pm at 2:43 pm (UTC -4)
wow – 120 comments on this post.
Who else besides me think Omar is waiting until Cora is checked out by Drs. tomorrow, and takes fielding practice to see if he can play – to decide who, if anyone, he’s going to make a trade for?
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-2:47pm at 2:47 pm (UTC -4)
Or even to decide who to call up from the minors?
metsfan4decades
5/26/2009-2:49pm at 2:49 pm (UTC -4)
Yes, that too. Should have mentioned it….
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
I thought your initial reply was perfect in a discussion format, it allowed for further input. My reply here on the other hand, just kind of brings everything to a screeching halt.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-3:00pm at 3:00 pm (UTC -4)
I think Cora was the best player in baseball before his injury.
dirtysanchez
5/26/2009-3:02pm at 3:02 pm (UTC -4)
if not the best…definatly the “smartest” ;p
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-3:06pm at 3:06 pm (UTC -4)
When Kevin Burkhardt was talking about that last night I went and grabbed the mug shot of Alex Cora from his DUI arrest, but ulitmately I left it out of the post game. Didn’t want to be too poopy on Memorial Day.
metsfan4decades
5/26/2009-3:11pm at 3:11 pm (UTC -4)
hahahaha.
metsfan4decades
5/26/2009-3:00pm at 3:00 pm (UTC -4)
No, I wouldn’t say that.
I think the decision of calling up someone from the minors for SS was more easily done temporarily (send down Martinez, call up say Milo or Tejada) if Martinez’s awful defense continued. None of them can/will add a bat, that’s for sure.
However, if Cora will be out for surgery and Reyes goes on the DL or can’t stay healthy, then trade priorities might be different. MI might then become Omar’s priority. Also and/or calling up say FMart. Although, I don’t see FMart being called up at all right now unless Church goes on the DL…..
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-3:01pm at 3:01 pm (UTC -4)
Where’s Jeff Gilooly when you need him?
dentulous
5/26/2009-3:07pm at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)
lol…be nice
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-3:11pm at 3:11 pm (UTC -4)
I like Church, but it’s time to give Omar’s prodigal son a chance.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
Yes, it would seem that the planes are stacking up over the airport waiting for traffic control to instruct them, or something like that.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-3:09pm at 3:09 pm (UTC -4)
FYI, I must have Simpsonized myself about 100 times on Friday. Thank you for that
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
Wow, I didn’t realize that site was still up. Cool!
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-3:24pm at 3:24 pm (UTC -4)
Better than cool. Amazing. I tried to Simpsonize my dog but it didn’t recognize the photo.
GravediggerHebner
5/26/2009-3:26pm at 3:26 pm (UTC -4)
I remember at the time experimenting with the different characters. Somewhere I have a Simpsonized version of myself wearing a polka dot dress standing in front of Krustylu Studios.
There's Always '10
5/26/2009-3:28pm at 3:28 pm (UTC -4)
Well, let’s be glad you don’t know where it is and at the same time hope nobody else does.