The Mets are 28th in the MLB in HR’s and 17th in Runs. Most of this can be attributed to the fact that we have our big guy gone for at least the ASB. While we had Carlos Beltran and David Wright hot at the same time, the reason they were so successful was the rebirth of Gary Sheffield. Granted im sure some of it can be attributed to being sandwiched betweend Carlos Beltran and David Wright but none the less, the guy has done more than we expected. Unfortunatly the facts are that he is 40 years old and has been in the DH for the last few years, and its starting to show. Gary has been said to be playing with a bum knee and his avg has been dropping ever since. The vision Omar and the Mets had for their squad is almost a full 360 to what they are today. I believe Omar wants to find something to help his squad and has enough talent w/o giving up his major prospects to get one major deal done. In my opinion, I believe we need a thumper in the lineup that will bat cleanup to give protection to Beltran and Wright and in turn relinquishing us from having to play Sheffield every day. Now there is the arguement that the Mets would be better served from smaller moves like a Jack Wilson and Adam Laroche from the Pirates(since they are giving away everyone). Ill leave that one in the air for right now but I think they should go for power in the outfield and here are the targets I believe Omar should have in his Myfaves ;p
Carlos “El Caballo” Lee
Career: .291avg/24-32HRS(a year)/.345OBP/.505SLG
Right Now:Â .315avg/9HR/31RBI
Career batting #4: .301avg/.357obp/.536SLG/132HR
Contract(per cots): 09:$18.5M, 10:$18.5M, 11:$18.5M, 12:$18.5M – full no-trade clause, 2007-2010
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Matt Holliday
Career:Â .317avg/19-36HR(a year)/.385OPS/.545SLG
Right Now: .280avg/7HR/33RBI
Career Batting 4th: .315avg/47HR/.391OBP/.539SLG
Contract: 09:$13.5M
 Aubrey Huff
Career: .286avg/22-34HR(a year)/.344OBP/.482SLG
Right Now: .268avg/8HR/39RBI
Career Batting 4th: .284avg/73HR/.350OBP/.474SLG
Contract: 09:$8M
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Whether any of these guys are even available is unknown but im sure Omar is racking up a major phone bill on that Blackberry. Who do you think Omar should target? Welcome to the Trade Thread.
234 comments
trs86
6/5/2009-10:02am at 10:02 am (UTC -4)
Gotta put Huff’s name in there.
What do you guys think about Magglio Ordonez? He is off to a bad start and the Tigers want to dump him. They don’t want the contract for next season and it becomes guaranteed with enough AB’s this year.
mrose
6/5/2009-10:03am at 10:03 am (UTC -4)
at 400k prorated, he seems great
rustyjr
6/5/2009-10:04am at 10:04 am (UTC -4)
i don’t think the wilpons want – and i stress want to afford him if you know what i mean
rustyjr
6/5/2009-10:08am at 10:08 am (UTC -4)
i mean that about ordonez … you know who’s available … Barry bonds !!! j/k hows about someone like whats his name from the royals – juan gonzalez? i know he’s a troublemaker but his bat would be helpful
sabermetrician
6/5/2009-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
lol – Jose Guillen
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:18am at 10:18 am (UTC -4)
lol fixed
mrose
6/5/2009-10:03am at 10:03 am (UTC -4)
I would love Lee, I would like Huff… I have 0 interest in Holiday…
I still say he is a product of Coors and he will want a ridiculous contract after the year. Huff seems like someone who is a) affordable this year and b) would likely not demand some crazy contract if we wanted to resign him. El Cabbalo may make a ton..but.. I have always liked him
rustyjr
6/5/2009-10:10am at 10:10 am (UTC -4)
i agree mrose – holiday would not be ideal in our lineup – i’d rather take my chances on nick johnson or fernando and go after a good arm like carlos lee
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-10:10am at 10:10 am (UTC -4)
I think it all depends on who we give in return.
Huff and Holliday would be 3-4 month rental. So, we should not give up all that much to get him. But for Lee, we may have to give up a lot to get him, just because he’s not a FA next season. I would give up everyone except for FMart to get Lee. He’ll be a solid OF and #4 hitter for next several years. Beltran, Lee and Wright would be great middle of the line up. Plus Lee does have some speed, so he won’t clog up the bases like Huff. But then, if Omar gets Lee, we probably won’t sign a major contract (for a SP) in awhile.
rustyjr
6/5/2009-10:13am at 10:13 am (UTC -4)
are you forgetting who the oakland a’s gm is? he will have us over a barrel
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-10:16am at 10:16 am (UTC -4)
yeah that’s why Holliday is the least likely candidate for the Mets… but Huff would be pretty decent addition. He has power and can play 1B and OF.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:12am at 10:12 am (UTC -4)
Last 28 days Maggs has done this. .342 .407 .438 .846 He is starting to heat up.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-10:13am at 10:13 am (UTC -4)
I like Maggs, but he isn’t a much of HR threat at this point in his career.
mrose
6/5/2009-10:15am at 10:15 am (UTC -4)
who is in Citi Cavern?
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:19am at 10:19 am (UTC -4)
Exactly. Best chance at HR hitters would be a lefty pull hitter. Is Mo Vaughn available?
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-10:21am at 10:21 am (UTC -4)
I believe Mets are still paying him… so, we can bring him out of his retirement!
rustyjr
6/5/2009-10:14am at 10:14 am (UTC -4)
trs i just don’t think the wilpons will greenlight a trade for ordonez – he is quite expensive plus he has a buyout for next year
trs86
6/5/2009-10:18am at 10:18 am (UTC -4)
He does not have a buyout for next year if he reaches a certain amount of AB’s.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:14am at 10:14 am (UTC -4)
And so are the Tigers. So why is he going to be traded now?
trs86
6/5/2009-10:19am at 10:19 am (UTC -4)
Because they have done it so far without him and don’t want his salary for next year to become guaranteed.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:29am at 10:29 am (UTC -4)
What do you mean they’ve done it without him? Their hot streak is only coincidence to his .342 batting average over the last 28 days? C’mon.
And back on the other blog, you had mentioned that EVERYBODY knew they were trying to give him away… meanwhile, according to a recent Heyman article, Ordonez MIGHT be available IF the Tigers FALL out of contention.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:17am at 10:17 am (UTC -4)
mags is a good option imo. Wonder what the tigers want…outside of i guess ML pitching
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-10:22am at 10:22 am (UTC -4)
We should send Sheff back.. LOL…
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
lmao
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:13am at 10:13 am (UTC -4)
Ben Badler of Baseball America makes an interesting recommendation for the Mets. He suggests Royals minor league 1B Kila Ka’aihue who after a slow start to his minor league career figured things out to the tune of 314 .456 .628 1.085 at AA and AAA last season but is blocked by Butler, Gordon and eventually Hosmer and Moustakas in KC.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:19am at 10:19 am (UTC -4)
I could see more likely getting one of the guys he is blocked by.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:30am at 10:30 am (UTC -4)
How is that more likely? He is blocked by those guys because KC doesn’t want to trade them.
Besides, two of them are in AA, one is on the DL and the other doesn’t really have a position.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:14am at 10:14 am (UTC -4)
I just can’t envision Lee playing LF for another three years (as he is barely capable now) and for 18.5m a year.
rustyjr
6/5/2009-10:15am at 10:15 am (UTC -4)
agreed maybe we can trade for the first baseman larouche from the pirates – they seem to take anything you offer lol
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:20am at 10:20 am (UTC -4)
Not to mention, they have a log jam of A.Laroches in that lineup.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:20am at 10:20 am (UTC -4)
I would not mind LaRoche or Nick Johnson either.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:22am at 10:22 am (UTC -4)
I like LaRoche as a platoon partner with Tatis.
There’s no reason those guys could not combine for 30+ HRs and close to 100 RBI at 1B.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:23am at 10:23 am (UTC -4)
I don’t want to see it be a platoon. I am not big on those at all.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
But LaRoche has pretty significant L/R splits. He is the ideal candidate for a platoon, unlike the young kids Jerry insists on platooning for no apparent reason.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:16am at 10:16 am (UTC -4)
if shef can do it…lee can. Im thinking lee because after next year is pretty much agreed the mets are not going to bring gado back…they dont have pop anywhere and lee would be the perfect person to provide that?
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:20am at 10:20 am (UTC -4)
Lee has never been in the type of cream/clear shape that Sheff was and still is in.
He hasn’t slowed down offensively yet, but I can’t see him and his fatness going on like this to justify that kind of money for 3 more years — and certainly not defensively in LF.
And Sheff has not been any great shakes outfield either but at least he is only costing $400k for one year.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:22am at 10:22 am (UTC -4)
True, but fact is we do need a hitter this year and we do need a LF for next year. What do you think the plan SHOULD be to address this?
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:24am at 10:24 am (UTC -4)
agreed. Bay is a FA but its hard for me to believe the sox wont pick him back up and wanny would you prefer omar go for vlad?
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:26am at 10:26 am (UTC -4)
Church will be back this weekend. Perhaps he and Martinez can be the corner outfielders next year.
And I am not convinced we need a hitter this year; but if we do, why does it have to be a 33 year old slow foot to play LF with almost $80m still owed?
There are other shorter term options such as Huff, Johnson, Kearns, Willingham, etc. They may niot be as good as Lee now or ever, but they are not albatrosses through 2012.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
that 33 yr old slow foot is a ledgit bat to seperate wright/beltran. The thing is you have to do this thing right the first time as omar does not have many if any pieces to get the job done..
trs86
6/5/2009-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
Come on seriously Wanny. A lineup next year with Church, Fmart and Murphy?
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:38am at 10:38 am (UTC -4)
Did I say you couldn’t get a 1B?
All I said was that I think Lee is a bad idea and that we shouldn’t close the door on F-Mart and Church.
If F-Mart looks like he can hit 25HR and bat .280 next year will you have a problem with that outfield?
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
Which is besides the point that if you pay $18.5m to Lee — then game over as far as filling out the rotation, 1B and C with any quality.
Remember how everyone complained that Omar didnt save enough money to sign Will Ohman (who, by the way, might be the worst pitcher in NL this season).
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:23am at 10:23 am (UTC -4)
right i agree but shef is gone next year and so is delgado…beltran and wright cannot get it done by themselves..they will never get anything to hit. Lee would work for a few years and he obviously is a ledgit cleanup guy.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-10:25am at 10:25 am (UTC -4)
He’s 33 now. I think he’d be okay for next 3-4 years. He may not hit 35 HRs, but he should retain decent power.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
Another negative with Lee is that his $18.5 mil probably means no meaningful upgrades next season to 1B, C or the rotation.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-10:18am at 10:18 am (UTC -4)
Well.. we have Sheff playing RF now.. Lee won’t be much different I think.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:20am at 10:20 am (UTC -4)
Lee can play 1B after this year, or even right now.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:23am at 10:23 am (UTC -4)
He’s got 29 innings of experience at 1B, all in 1999.
prismo
6/5/2009-10:19am at 10:19 am (UTC -4)
I want Huff! Seeing Shef go 0-5 yesterday and leave a bunch of men on base summed it up – he’ll have his moments, but his days of consistency are over. Not to mention the sub-par defense and base-running…
CaseStreet
6/5/2009-10:20am at 10:20 am (UTC -4)
I’ll have to respectfully disagree. We don’t need a bit bat, especially not in Citi. Bare w/ my optimism plz:
1. The Dodgers lead the league in Runs, yet they have 37 HR compared to the Mets 34.
2. Actually, most of their stats are very similar to the mets except for one, hits. The Dodgers have 545 Hits to the Mets 490.
Check out the stats for yourself, if you don’t believe me:
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable_team_stats.jsp?c_id=mlb§ion1=null&statSet1=null&groupByTeam=true&statType=1&sortByStat=AVG&timeFrame=1&timeSubFrame=2009&baseballScope=mlb&prevPage1=1&readBoxes=true&Submit=Submit&box1=lan&box3=nyn&checkBoxTotal=0&compare.x=25&compare.y=0
The Dodgers have played 4 more games and do have 175 more At Bats, despite Striking Out 91 more times than the Mets.
In the end, IMO the Mets need to play small ball and move runners over. That’s it. If they do this, they’ll be fine.
BTW, I don’t see how losing Reyes means we need a big bat. We wouldn’t be having this conv. if Pelf didn’t give up 9 runs yesterday. The rest of the team scored plenty. It wasn’t the hitting that lost yesterday.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:24am at 10:24 am (UTC -4)
Small ball is fine when your pitchers keep you in the game. We can play small ball when Johan, Pelf, and Maine are on the mound. That’s really it. We will have to score runs for Livan and Redding.
CaseStreet
6/5/2009-10:51am at 10:51 am (UTC -4)
Actually, the Mets are 2 away from the MLB leader in Quality Starts.
Santana 9
Maine 6
Pelf 5
Livan 5
Redding 1
trs86
6/5/2009-10:24am at 10:24 am (UTC -4)
I don’t disagree with not having to have a big bopper. In fact I still think they way Nick Johnson hits he would be perfect for us. Exactly what we all hoped Murphy would be.
CaseStreet
6/5/2009-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
I still believe Murph can be that guy, just needs reg at-bats.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:25am at 10:25 am (UTC -4)
beautiful analysis and you have a point…just one thing..you forgot that we have jerry manuel for a manager and a team that really doesnt execute small ball very well…
CaseStreet
6/5/2009-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
might be me, but I do remember a stretch of wins not too long ago when the team was winning w/ small ball
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090509&content_id=4641140&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
If we can play like we did against the Giants, I’d be very happy.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:33am at 10:33 am (UTC -4)
one game i can think of that was won with small ball…we are at game 53 i believe…im not confidant in jerrys ability to play small ball or make this type of team work.
CaseStreet
6/5/2009-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
if you say so. I don’t see the problem. How hard is it to get walks, sacrifice, steal, hit and runs, and aggressive base running. Actually, these are all things Jerry has emphasized.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:51am at 10:51 am (UTC -4)
If its one thing i learned form jerry so far…its one thing what he says and another what he does
trs86
6/5/2009-10:21am at 10:21 am (UTC -4)
Guys I really think we may get Nick Johnson. That is the rumor that never seemed to go away. I don’t think he nor DeRossa would cost much in prospects. Why not try and get both?
Once, or if everyone is healthy we can figure it out.
prismo
6/5/2009-10:23am at 10:23 am (UTC -4)
I agree that the Mets are at least TWO players away from being where we want them to be. Johnson and DeRosa might do the trick. I’m surprisingly not too worried about the pitching staff.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:27am at 10:27 am (UTC -4)
Nick Johnson helps, but what if Delgado comes back? Then Nick Johnson needs to find a seat cushion.
Joe R
6/5/2009-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
Oh well then he does.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
Delgado when back could not be expected to play every day. There is just as good of a chance of Perez coming back and being effective as Delgado coming back and doing the same. Besides, Johnson has played a LITTLE LF a long time ago.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
A-Rod came back and is being effective right now.
Like him or not, this team misses Delgado just as much as it is going to miss Reyes. He was one of those few lefty bats that could hit home runs in this stadium.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
LOL, you don’t think there is a difference in between Delgado and Arod?
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:43am at 10:43 am (UTC -4)
His point is that the injury itself does not necessarily prohibit a player’s recovery.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:27am at 10:27 am (UTC -4)
What do you think it would take? Guys like Niese and Gee? I don’t see either taking Holt, Meija, Flores or Fmart.
Finishing a roster if everyone is healthy.
Schnieder, Santos, Delgado, Johnson, Castillo, Cora, Reyes, DeRossa, Wright, Tatis, Sheff, Beltran, Church/Fmart/Reed. If all are healthy and we have the problem of playing time that is an incredibly good problem to have.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
im not really high on nick too much as his numbers are him batting in the 2 hole in front of zim and dunn…derosa is nice but we need constant thump. If both these guys can be gotten that would be great but one of those guys above would go along way.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:29am at 10:29 am (UTC -4)
So, what would his numbers be here batting in front of Beltran, Sheff, Wright?
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:35am at 10:35 am (UTC -4)
well like i said, the guy we are going to get will most likely have to bat in the 4 hole as the top two are usually already taken. Beltran has 3 and wright has 5. With nick and rosa, i assume the lineup will be
castillo
fmart
beltran
nick
wright
rosa
shef/church
omir
trs86
6/5/2009-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
I don’t think so Dirty. The lineup will shake itself out if you replace bad hitters with good hitters.
Castillo, Johnson, Beltran, Sheff, Wright, Rosa, Fmart, Omir
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-10:44am at 10:44 am (UTC -4)
i really want to avoid playing shef so often
trs86
6/5/2009-10:50am at 10:50 am (UTC -4)
Then Church/Tatis plays that day and you slide Wright up and slot them in between Rosa and the RF.
QnsNative718
6/5/2009-10:29am at 10:29 am (UTC -4)
The fact is, as a World Series contender we cant rely on Alex Cora to play everyday at short for 2 months. At the same time, Tatis and Murphy arent cutting it as well at 1st. Needless to say, we’re not in good shape. And knowing the Wilpons, they wont go for TWO big trades.
There are currently no SS available via FA.
2B Available
Ray Durham (37)
Damion Easley (39)
Mark Grudzielanek (39) – Type B, offered arb
First basemen
1B Available
Richie Sexson (34)(Ummm, yea)
trs86
6/5/2009-10:30am at 10:30 am (UTC -4)
If Sexson is in shape then I have no problem with him being added.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:33am at 10:33 am (UTC -4)
Richie Sexson sucks. Did you see him as a Yank last year? Horrible on his best day.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:36am at 10:36 am (UTC -4)
Look at his splits.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
.325 .414 .578 .992 vs LH last year.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:38am at 10:38 am (UTC -4)
You don’t like platoons.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:43am at 10:43 am (UTC -4)
I agree, I don’t but if you are NOT going to trade for something then do we have a choice but in some way or form go with a platoon.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
But you did not want to platoon Laroche and Tatis?
Sexson is washed up.
In 2007 he hit 238 .333 .419 v. lefties.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:46am at 10:46 am (UTC -4)
No I don’t want to platoon Tatis and LaRoche. If we get LaRoche he needs to start every day. Maybe even sign him for 1B next year. Have one of those plan thingies.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:47am at 10:47 am (UTC -4)
And Wanny what is your point about being washed up? So were Tatis and so is Ramon Hernandez and Wilson Valdez. I am talking temporary stop gaps until a solution can be found. If Sexson stinks then you throw away his small amount of money.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:49am at 10:49 am (UTC -4)
Except Laroche is the ideal platoon guy. He can’t hit lefties:
.252 .313 .441
v. righties:
.275 .347 .503
Think these things through.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:52am at 10:52 am (UTC -4)
I am not going to trade what it takes to get LaRoche to make him a platoon guy. We need an everyday 1B this year and next year. Sexson, Tatis, Murphy are all bad temporary options. LaRoche could be our 1B for next year.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:54am at 10:54 am (UTC -4)
Fine. You can play him everyday on principle despite the fact that both he and Tatis can be put in better positions to succeed, based primairly ont he fact that Laroche is demonstrably a bad hitter against lefties.
Well done, Jerry.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:57am at 10:57 am (UTC -4)
Wanny I am done with this. You are stubborn as hell. LOL.
Do you really want to trade a top prospect for a platoon guy?
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:59am at 10:59 am (UTC -4)
I’m stubborn?
At least I acknowledge the facts.
I don’t recall stating that we should trade a top prospect for LaRoche and was not aware that is what it would take. I don’t know how you assume that’s what it would take.
Anyway, you said before that you would take Laroche. It makes no sense to me trade for him and then not put him and the team in its best chance to succeed.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
And only 83 at bats…
His career v. LHP is 265 .369 .509 but that doesn’t separate his good years from his truly pitiful recent ones.
QnsNative718
6/5/2009-10:35am at 10:35 am (UTC -4)
I just threw up a little on my keyboard. I spent the last 2 minutes cleaning it. You gotta be kidding me about Richie Suxson (Sorry, the inner kid came outta me) The guys stock plummetted over the last 5 years like a fat kid off a bike. Steroids anyone?
trs86
6/5/2009-10:36am at 10:36 am (UTC -4)
See above
QnsNative718
6/5/2009-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
ok, he hit .325 last yr against lefties. So, we just sit him against the majority of pitchers who are righties? Or do we let him go out there and come away with a .178 BA like last yr?
trs86
6/5/2009-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
No you let Murphy hit against the RH.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:44am at 10:44 am (UTC -4)
Again, you said moments ago that you don’t like platoons.
You wouldn’t take a LaRoche/Tatis platoon but you would take a Sexson/Murphy platoon?
That doesn’t make sense to me.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:49am at 10:49 am (UTC -4)
Wanny you are always misunderstanding words. Do you not understand why I would not want a platoon with LaRoche but would with Murphy? NO I don’t like platoons but I don’t want to stick with Murphy everyday either.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:51am at 10:51 am (UTC -4)
All of you arguments here are ignoring facts.
1. Laroche can’t hit lefties and is the ideal platoon partner. See the stats above.
2. Sexson is not the magically lefty masher you think he is. See the stats below. Don’t go nuts on his 83 at bat sample last year. The guy hasn’t hit for years and was terrible v. lefties in 2007.
I’m not misunderstanding anything. You are misunderstanding the facts.
trs86
6/5/2009-10:54am at 10:54 am (UTC -4)
Wanny, if Sexson goes to AAA and can’t hit LH pitching then what did we lose?
Also, I understand that LaRoche does not hit LH well. However you can’t trade the package it would take to get him to platoon him. He still offers something even with those splits. Having a guy be a decent defensive guy and in there every day still matters.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:57am at 10:57 am (UTC -4)
I didn’t realize we were talking about Sexson in AAA.
When you sais to platoon him with Murphy, I assumed Murphy was still on the Mets.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:01am at 11:01 am (UTC -4)
No that was assuming that he hit well enough in AAA. You think I or the Mets would be dumb enough not to send him to AAA first?
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:02am at 11:02 am (UTC -4)
I want Sexson without the son….
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-10:46am at 10:46 am (UTC -4)
Sexson v. lefties in 2007 = 238 .333 .419.
Don’t go crazy over an 83 at bat sample from last year.
Joe R
6/5/2009-10:33am at 10:33 am (UTC -4)
And part of Castillo’s success this year is he doesnt have to play everyday! He needs rest too
QnsNative718
6/5/2009-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
Sorry to be Debbie D. but its only a matter of time with Castillo.
Joe R
6/5/2009-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
I think we need a big bat…
trs86
6/5/2009-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
I just don’t think there are enough out there and none that translate to Citi. Nick Johnson being a line drive hitter replacing the .250 hitters at 1B is not a bad thing.
fongy2
6/5/2009-10:30am at 10:30 am (UTC -4)
Sign Sammy!!
Joe R
6/5/2009-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
This may not be an option but imo when Omar acquires this big bat i hope he has energy and is a huge visible team player. Being from NYC I see alot of the Yankees and on top of the numbers Tex was a great pickup from them. He plays ridiculously hard, he cheers ridiculously hard, he pumps up his teammates. He grabs Arod and shakes him, etc Its very nice to see and wish we had a guy with that much fire. Like I said it maybe a bit much to ask for Omar to acquire a big bat and for that player to also have all of those attributes but it would be great!!
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:35am at 10:35 am (UTC -4)
Well, Tex’s whole life, he wanted to be a Yankee. That’s why he signed at a discount.
Joe R
6/5/2009-10:38am at 10:38 am (UTC -4)
He always plays hard.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:33am at 10:33 am (UTC -4)
Off topic, it’s too bad Murph had that one extra at bat last year. He’d qualify for ROY voting this year. pffffft.
fongy2
6/5/2009-10:39am at 10:39 am (UTC -4)
Except hes not having a rookie
of the year type season So
whats the point?
trs86
6/5/2009-10:41am at 10:41 am (UTC -4)
It was a joke I think.
fongy2
6/5/2009-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
Sorry! I missed
it! Lost my sense of humor
since yesterday.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
It was. I really hope he proves me wrong, but that performance yesterday was just horrible. He got picked off at 1B (that play wasn’t even close). He got thrown out at 3B (that wasn’t even close). He got thrown out at home. He made a three base error. I know he is young and I know it is compounding, but this is the majors.
fongy2
6/5/2009-10:44am at 10:44 am (UTC -4)
He should have been sent to Buffalo out of spring to learn a position
AND Omar should have added one of the multitude of Bats available this
off season.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
cough adam dunn cough
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:32am at 11:32 am (UTC -4)
Dunn makes Murphy look like a gold glover.
fongy2
6/5/2009-10:47am at 10:47 am (UTC -4)
Wilson and LaRouche from the Pirates
as Band-Aids! Both on last yr of deals,both making 7 mil this yr,
Pirates GM as bad as Omar so maybe
we don’t get hi-jacked.
Then stay afloat,forget the Phillies
and focus on the WildCard.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:50am at 10:50 am (UTC -4)
I’d rather just trade for Nick Johnson and go with Cora at short.
fongy2
6/5/2009-10:52am at 10:52 am (UTC -4)
I’d take that.
BUT not for Parnell!
fongy2
6/5/2009-10:53am at 10:53 am (UTC -4)
And can Omar
move Jerry out
and bring in
Nicks Uncle
to Manage?
trs86
6/5/2009-10:55am at 10:55 am (UTC -4)
AGreeeeeeed.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-10:50am at 10:50 am (UTC -4)
I think Mets should go get Pujols. He’s a perfect fit for the team. He hit, field and play 1B. I don’t know what the Mets would give up for him. I think Murphy and Niese should do it. But that maybe giving up too much…
We’ll throw in Ollie and Putz too.
fongy2
6/5/2009-10:51am at 10:51 am (UTC -4)
Sounds good BUT I don’t think
they’d want Putz since it
looks like surgery.
How ’bout we replace him with
Sean Green?
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-10:54am at 10:54 am (UTC -4)
yea. st. louis could use a lefty bat like green’s.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-10:54am at 10:54 am (UTC -4)
I think Green would be giving up too much. Putz said that even though it hurts like a b****, he’ll play for the big contract..
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:01am at 11:01 am (UTC -4)
No Sexon please.. We need Pujols.
CaseStreet
6/5/2009-11:01am at 11:01 am (UTC -4)
come on people, the Phils are still an overachieving team. I can’t believe the doom and gloom on here today.
Hey Mets, don’t bother w/ the Phils. Your fans just want you to worry about the Wild Card.
I’d love for my team to give up on winning on the division. That’s the kind of mentality I want.
Excuse me, if I don’t let some of you in my foxhole.
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-11:02am at 11:02 am (UTC -4)
I want Beltran in my fox hole.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:02am at 11:02 am (UTC -4)
Wanny to continue this down here. Should this person be platooned?
.304 .411 .660 1.071 vs RH
.228 .310 .458 .769 vs LH
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-11:05am at 11:05 am (UTC -4)
depends on you sample size and defensive position/ability.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-11:11am at 11:11 am (UTC -4)
not to mention who your platoon partner is.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:15am at 11:15 am (UTC -4)
Someone with Tatis’s numbers.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:11am at 11:11 am (UTC -4)
1482 AB’s vs RH, 794 vs LH and average defensively.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-11:24am at 11:24 am (UTC -4)
For one thing, Adam Laroche is not Ryan Howard. Howard makes an impact in the lineup even when he’s not hitting. For another thing, Howard has hit LHP before: 279 .364 .558 in 2006 as an example.
Lastly, Howard hits about 16 HRs per season v. lefties, whereas Laroche has hit 19 in his CAREER!
Anyway, in a perfect world, Howard wouldn’t be a bad platoon guy but given his salary, his intimidation and his home run power, it still makes sense to play him. However, the team would probably benefit from playing a Wes Helms type v. lefties with more frequency.
I don’t think the Phils even have a RH hitting 1B. Dobbs is a lefty, no?
trs86
6/5/2009-11:37am at 11:37 am (UTC -4)
Hey but at least I made you go figure out who it was. My point is still the Pirates are not going to salary dump him. He will take prospects and we don’t have a 1B for next year either. If I trade for LaRoche I want it to be because they see potential in him being the 1B for next year too.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-12:12pm at 12:12 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t think it will take all that much to get him. Pitt’s only chance at re-signing him is if they commit to sticking with his pitiful borther at 3B.
Anyway, I’m guessing they Alvarez tabbed for one of those two spots in the very near future.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-12:12pm at 12:12 pm (UTC -4)
But I agree not to give up a lot for him, especially if not for next year also.
However, no matter what you give him or pay him atfer the season, I still view him as a platoon player.
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-12:13pm at 12:13 pm (UTC -4)
By the way, it wasn’t hard to figure out which player had a SLG% like that in about 5 seasons!
wannybackstra
6/5/2009-11:26am at 11:26 am (UTC -4)
Anyway, I don’t know how this has anything to do with the idea of platooning Adam Laroche, who is not Ryan Howard, with Tatis — when both guys would benefit, as would the team (more importantly).
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:04am at 11:04 am (UTC -4)
Ah, fellas mattsblog notes that
among options for Short,there is still
Omar Vizquel “whos still a Free Agent”
This is even more proof that neither
he nor his blog have any standing.
Does he not follow the game?
Does he not read a friggin’ boxscore?
Is he kidding? AND hes an authority?
What a joke! This! is why I didn’t
bother with the Q&A. I may disagree
at times with some here but for the
most part you are all pretty well informed and are real Met/baseball
fans. He really has become a younger,
thinner, less informed version of
Francesca.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:05am at 11:05 am (UTC -4)
LOL. I was laughing the other day at his piece on who the Mets should give up and how they could get them without giving up major prospects.
CaseStreet
6/5/2009-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
he took it down already, so at least he’s paying some attention.
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:17am at 11:17 am (UTC -4)
Unbelievable though!
Hes a journalist?
Hes not on the foreign
policy beat for CNN,
how do you make a mistake like that?
Hes supposed to be an authority?
Kingman 26
6/5/2009-11:19am at 11:19 am (UTC -4)
He is not a journalist and he is not an authority on anything.
He is one of us—but not as intelligent as many of the posters on here.
Seriously, if Matt was on here with TRS, Wanny, Dirty, MRose, Rusty, Case, Fong, Grave, MetsFan4, QnsNative, etc etc etc, would he even be among the wisest posters?
NO!
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:33am at 11:33 am (UTC -4)
And that
would be if he wasn’t so arrogant
and cocksure
of himself
on all things Mets.
I know I
can be
pessimistic and
at times
arrogant
BUT its
because
of how long and how closely
I’ve followed this team and
the game.At the same time I
never forget that like anyone else…
I could be wrong.
Matt seems more like one of these guys i.e.Francesca who thinks he
knows something,makes up his mind and
can’t admit that maybe he
was just
wrong.
darknova306
6/5/2009-11:33am at 11:33 am (UTC -4)
He’s a blogger; bloggers are NOT authorities. If he was a journalist who also ran a blog, I could see the ‘authority’ description of him. He was never a journalist.
Kingman 26
6/5/2009-11:16am at 11:16 am (UTC -4)
Matt is a truly average guy in every respect except for his foresight in starting a Met blog and registering the domain name so early.
His “facts”, attention to detail, writing ability, choice of fellow writers, and judgment are all just plain average at best. And his historical perspective is non-existent.
That is why I studiously avoided the Q & A and why I never go there anymore.
You guys are all far better Met writers and analysts than he is.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:18am at 11:18 am (UTC -4)
Thanks Kingman. It is still tough to come up with interesting topics everyday. Like I did not do a What Mets Fans are talking about today because we all know what they are talking about.
Kingman 26
6/5/2009-11:20am at 11:20 am (UTC -4)
I really mean it too…you guys do a better job. You really do.
I have been working on my next post, but seriously, I want it to be up to the standards you guys set. And you and Grave’s graphics and use of pictures are far better than anything I have ever seen on Metsblog.
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:25am at 11:25 am (UTC -4)
Hello Brock
and I agree!
Much higher
quality
and knowledge found
here.
For the 10th time,
Great job you’ve
guys have done.
This has almost become
the anti-mattsblog.The one for
the REAL
Met fans.
Kingman 26
6/5/2009-11:30am at 11:30 am (UTC -4)
Amen…it IS the anti-Matts blog.
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
Well you should have plenty to
cover for the next several
weeks anyway.
Like I’ve said for yrs,baseball is
for men like soap operas were for women
yrs ago.
Daily Drama!
Kingman 26
6/5/2009-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
Ha! Good analogy!
darknova306
6/5/2009-11:25am at 11:25 am (UTC -4)
Especially when you’re a Mets fan. Talk about an emotional roller coaster even during the course of a day.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
LOL, Matt’s at it again. “From what I can gather, Wilson will be much easier to acquire if the new team is willing to pick up all of the $13 million left on his contract between now and the end of next season.”
Who are you gathering from? Wilson has a club option for next year. 07:$5.25M, 08:$6.5M, 09:$7.25M, 10:$8.4M club option ($0.6M buyout)
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:05am at 11:05 am (UTC -4)
We need Sexson without the son…
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:13am at 11:13 am (UTC -4)
okay.. maybe it wasn’t funny…
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
I liked it!
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:31am at 11:31 am (UTC -4)
Thanks!
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
Theres always Mary Palmer!
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:28am at 11:28 am (UTC -4)
If these are our options, then the Mets might as well stand pat. Huff and Holiday will demand a very good prospect since they would get TypeA compensation if they goto FA and as said about Lee, he is grossly overpaid and practically a DH, not to mention he would hinder moves in the offseason. You don’t further ruin this team by trying to patch it.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:30am at 11:30 am (UTC -4)
What do you suggest the Mets do then?
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:35am at 11:35 am (UTC -4)
Ride it out with what we have. If there is an older vet on a 1 yr deal that we can get on the cheap, then i would do that. But I wouldnt add any players with multiple years at the expense of one of our top100 prospects or that would hinder future moves.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:39am at 11:39 am (UTC -4)
Do we even have 100 prospects
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:41am at 11:41 am (UTC -4)
But with Delgado out till August and possibly Reyes out till AS break, this team is not competitive offensively. What happened in Pittsburgh is when the pitching staff doesn’t perform well, offense cannot pick them up.
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:45am at 11:45 am (UTC -4)
You got to take this one of the chin. Injuries and Omar are to blame. Got to move on. But you dont make it worse by ruining your future.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
So you take one on the chin with Phillies running away with the division?
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:48am at 11:48 am (UTC -4)
Yup. You can’t make it worse than it already is by making dumb trades.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:50am at 11:50 am (UTC -4)
So you are throwing away this season on June 5th? Because with this offense, you cannot compete with Cards or Brewers….
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
I said this yesterday, I will root this team until the end of the season, but its not going anywhere without a ton of luck. And I dont want to see panic trades that are going to hurt us down the road. Our core isn’t old, they will all still be here next yr.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:56am at 11:56 am (UTC -4)
So, how are we much different next season with that kind of mentality? Just ride it out and take it on the chin?
For one, Mets do not have that great of farm system to bank on the future. If you are banking on the prospects coming up to help us win, it’s not going to happen. This core is it. Second, none of us are advocating that we give up FMart (our only good prospect) to make this trade happen.
jaydh
6/5/2009-12:02pm at 12:02 pm (UTC -4)
This is what I have to look forward to…
SS-Reyes
3B-Wright
LF or RF-FMart
CF-Beltran
SP-Johan,Pelfrey,Maine
RP-Parnell,Frankie
Of course there are a few others that will still be here but I wouldnt include them in our core. Plus over $20mil coming off the books along with the financial flexibility that we dont use this year to try to add to this group to make a much stronger team than we had at the start of this season.
trs86
6/5/2009-12:18pm at 12:18 pm (UTC -4)
Of course but some of those holes that you are mentioning could be filled during the season.
jaydh
6/5/2009-12:23pm at 12:23 pm (UTC -4)
Not without overpaying in prospects or hurting future finances.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:47am at 11:47 am (UTC -4)
You don’t have to ruin your future if you make trades for either salary dump guys OR for players who can fill a position of need next year.
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:48am at 11:48 am (UTC -4)
Any salary dump is going to hinder our moves next yr since the market is still going to be bad.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
Why? Not if that contract expires this year. The Mets are not losing money this year but would stand to lose some money if they fall completely out of the race.
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:52am at 11:52 am (UTC -4)
I said I would be fine with picking up a vet on a 1yr deal on the cheap, but that wasn’t what you originally said.
trs86
6/5/2009-12:01pm at 12:01 pm (UTC -4)
I have said so damn much today, I don’t know what I originally said. Can you tell me what that was? LOL
stickguy
6/5/2009-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
That’s the key. Getting a guy to cover a pending hole, if they are giving up real talent.
1B or LF? Yeah, that’s OK.
They can even move Murphy for a 1B that will be around for a couple of years.
Or, a SS that can move to 2B to replace Castillo! No, I won’t give up on that campaign, and he is gonna blow up any time now anyway.
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
And btw, I would be shocked if Delgado and Reyes come back when they are estimated to.
stickguy
6/5/2009-11:52am at 11:52 am (UTC -4)
I would be shocked if either one came back at all this year, at least fully productive.
jaydh
6/5/2009-11:54am at 11:54 am (UTC -4)
Agreed, I was being generous for those that still believe.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
That’s why Omar needs to make a move now.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
geez..arnold had some guns back in the day lol
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:35am at 11:35 am (UTC -4)
He is the GodFather of
Bodybuilding my friend!
Oh, and one of the GodFathers
of steroids!
There's Always '27
6/5/2009-11:38am at 11:38 am (UTC -4)
He is a baseball player too?
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:50am at 11:50 am (UTC -4)
I actually had
to double take
the photo.
Thought it was
Canseco circa
1990 for a sec:)
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/5/2009-11:43am at 11:43 am (UTC -4)
Eat your Witamins and Say your Prayers!..
oh wait… that’s the wrong roid head…
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
Brotha!!!
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
Whatcha gonna do!!!
Mr. Mets Butler
6/5/2009-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
While I have a man-crush for Carlos Lee and would love to see him come to the Mets, I must say I think this team could use a solid #2 starter behind Johan. Pitching is more crucial for this team right now with this depleted lineup. So, if Omar brings in a Roy Oswalt or Cliff Lee, I will not be disappointed. If he could bring in both, a power bat and a top flight pitcher, then I will have a man-crush on Omar. UGH…can’t believe I just said that.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:50am at 11:50 am (UTC -4)
That does solve the problem that everyone brings up of what do you do when…. comes back. Getting Lee or Oswalt then you just have the Perez/Livan question. IF Perez ever gets healthy and gets it together and can pitch better than Livan then Livan goes to the pen.
Mr. Mets Butler
6/5/2009-11:54am at 11:54 am (UTC -4)
Yes and we can ship Tim Redding to Kalamazoo!
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:56am at 11:56 am (UTC -4)
They want no part of him!
trs86
6/5/2009-12:04pm at 12:04 pm (UTC -4)
Redding if he does not improve is not really owed anything. Send him to the minors, it’s not like he will get claimed. Let him figure out his stuff down there.
fongy2
6/5/2009-12:11pm at 12:11 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed!
And if
claimed,
thank you to the team which does!
stickguy
6/5/2009-11:48am at 11:48 am (UTC -4)
I don’t normally like platoons, but look at it differently for a fill in situation.
If you need someone to cover for the regular for 1-2 months, then you might be better off splitting time with a couple of back ups, in order to maximize the benefit of them both.
Right now, I think the Mets need to have Church play every day in RF (at least you get top notch D), should just go with Valdez at short (agian, for his D), and have to give Sheff more time off. Not sure it should be Martinez though.
Cora can start a few times per week for Castillo, and occasionally for Valdez.
I also am assuming no trades of consequence before July.
So, send down Martinez for Church. ANd try to replace Emil Brown (still dont understand that call up) with a better OF. Sullivan? Not sure who. That guy and Reed can platoon with SHeffield to give him rest.
And you pretty much need to play Murphy everyday, since there is no one else.
Line up?
Castillo
Murphy
Beltran
Sheff
Wright
Church
Santos
Valdez
Not fantiastic, but not horrible. Good enough to stay in the hunt, if thepitching keeps it together.
If they do make a deal for Nick J, it better be for a 2nd tier package. Or Larocke to take his salary, not that he hits much better than Murphy at this point.
Mr. Mets Butler
6/5/2009-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
I think Cora needs to play most of the time at SS with Valdez filling in once in a while. Cora brings a certain amount of grit and energy to this team. I like him.
trs86
6/5/2009-11:53am at 11:53 am (UTC -4)
We need to know that Church can even give you a #6 hitter first.
Mr. Mets Butler
6/5/2009-11:55am at 11:55 am (UTC -4)
Let’s just hope Manuel gives Church the chance to prove that.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-11:58am at 11:58 am (UTC -4)
agreed regardin laroche
that what this team needs..a consistant lineup. Thing is church is not going to play every day as manuel has shown he does not like doing that. I like that lineup alot tho
fongy2
6/5/2009-12:02pm at 12:02 pm (UTC -4)
Dirty,LaRouche is a better player than
Church ever was when
healthy/right and if
cheap,why not?
We ain’t getting Pujols
or even CArlos Lee.
trs86
6/5/2009-12:05pm at 12:05 pm (UTC -4)
Why are we comparing LaRoche to Church?
fongy2
6/5/2009-12:08pm at 12:08 pm (UTC -4)
Good question! one guys been a legit MLB 1B
whos put up some pretty good #s
in the past.
The other more of a 4th/platoon OFer
whos had a good month
here and there.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-12:14pm at 12:14 pm (UTC -4)
i dont know…i wasnt compairing those two. Im just saying i dont think laroche will be much of an impact and manuel as much as he says to the contrary, doesnt really like church. I wasnt compairing them.
trs86
6/5/2009-12:15pm at 12:15 pm (UTC -4)
But if we get LaRoche unless we trade Church they will both be on the team.
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:55am at 11:55 am (UTC -4)
LaRouche and Wilson for a bag-o-balls
Do it Omar,do it!
Mr. Mets Butler
6/5/2009-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
Is Laroche really going to make a difference to this team? I say no thanks.
fongy2
6/5/2009-11:59am at 11:59 am (UTC -4)
How you figure?
A legit MLB 1B and
power bat.Should come
cheap and no longterm
obligation.
Mr. Mets Butler
6/5/2009-12:08pm at 12:08 pm (UTC -4)
Just not big on him. But your right…he would fill a need at 1st base. He is a consistent 20-30 HR guy. Maybe because he is an ex-Brave. Who knows? I just think if the Astros are willing to trade Carlos Lee , then we should go after him. I hope Omar is at least inquiring about it.
fongy2
6/5/2009-12:09pm at 12:09 pm (UTC -4)
Me too!
Mr. Mets Butler
6/5/2009-12:14pm at 12:14 pm (UTC -4)
Knowing Omar though, he will trade for the wrong Laroche…lol
trs86
6/5/2009-12:06pm at 12:06 pm (UTC -4)
Small but yes. You don’t think having a real 1B that is a better hitter than Murphy right now would improve the team for this year? What does it cost you really?
fongy2
6/5/2009-12:09pm at 12:09 pm (UTC -4)
Thank you!
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-12:12pm at 12:12 pm (UTC -4)
i dont think he will give much above a murphy taht plays everyday but considering the realistics of the situation, at least we will have someone that is proven and hopefully will play everyday…
trs86
6/5/2009-12:17pm at 12:17 pm (UTC -4)
I can’t see Murphy putting up those numbers.
A lineup of
Castillo, Church, Beltran, Sheff, Wright, LaRoche, Santos, Castillo is not terrible
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-12:25pm at 12:25 pm (UTC -4)
no its not terrible at all. Hopefully laroche will play every day…
trs86
6/5/2009-12:27pm at 12:27 pm (UTC -4)
Had this debate with Wanny so don’t let him see it. SHHHH.
I think if we trade for him, he plays everyday.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-12:31pm at 12:31 pm (UTC -4)
in theory im inclined to agreed with you..but in reality i cannot be so certian given manuels history so far. But ill keep this from wanny ;p
fongy2
6/5/2009-12:19pm at 12:19 pm (UTC -4)
Point is Dirty,
we dont know what we’ll get from Murp w/the bat and
hes already either directly or indirectly cost
us a couple gms with
his glove.
Mr. Mets Butler
6/5/2009-12:21pm at 12:21 pm (UTC -4)
I think if Manuel will cut it out and just start playing Murphy and Church everyday, they will come around with the bats. Jerry annoys me with his platooning sometimes.
Murph and Church need consistent at bats.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-12:24pm at 12:24 pm (UTC -4)
agreed and i hope he does…i just dont trust him with that anymore to be honest.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-12:23pm at 12:23 pm (UTC -4)
and how many has manuel cost us…directly. How is the kid going to improve if he doesnt play?
trs86
6/5/2009-12:25pm at 12:25 pm (UTC -4)
In the minors if he is not going to hit but .250.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-12:27pm at 12:27 pm (UTC -4)
and how is he going to improve that number if he doesnt play real?
trs86
6/5/2009-12:27pm at 12:27 pm (UTC -4)
In the minors
Mr. Mets Butler
6/5/2009-12:30pm at 12:30 pm (UTC -4)
like dirty said, if you don’t play everyday how is his average going to improve? Play him everyday for a few weeks and I am sure his average will improve.
Manuel has really messed up both him and Church. Even Tatis. Fernando was hot to start the season and then he didn’t play for like three weeks straight with only an occasional pinh-hit spot. Now he is slumping big time too. We can’t even rely on him to supply the lost power in this lineup like he did last year.
dirtysanchez
6/5/2009-12:35pm at 12:35 pm (UTC -4)
he has 145ab’s…thats less than reyes and he has been gone for how long now??!!
trs86
6/5/2009-12:38pm at 12:38 pm (UTC -4)
Our last 12 games he has stared 8 of them and has a .214 .313 .357 .670 line. How much rope do you give him when we can’t hit?
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