Jerry's the rogue, can Omar be the trader?
It looks as if Mets manager Jerry Manuel is finally on the trade bandwagon. In an afternoon press conference Manuel was quoted as saying:
“If we get below [.500] and we continue to struggle offensively as we are, I think that [a trade] is a no-brainer. I think we have to visit that. I think that has to be visited or talked about at some point. It would be dishonest if I said no.”
Omar Minaya has been adamant that the trade market is rough going right now with so many teams in the playoff race at this point in the season.
Is it really the best move for the Mets to wait until they’re under .500 to trade for a bat though? It’s become crystal clear that this team is lacking a consistent offense – why not trade for a bat right now? I don’t understand the mentality of waiting to lose some more games before trading for offense. If you have water damage to your ceiling, do you call for maintenance immediately or wait until the ceiling collapses to call maintenance?
Props to this article over at the NYPost for the quote.
19 comments
rustyjr
6/28/2009-6:07pm at 6:07 pm (UTC -4)
sometimes jerry’s mouth does him no failures – i understand his frustrations – but omar and the funky bunch ( front office – damn maybe they should try their hand at hip hop) are probably very weary about his proclamations about wanting Manny and his contract demands before the season – they might decide to cut bait
GravediggerHebner
6/28/2009-6:14pm at 6:14 pm (UTC -4)
Is that couple making out at the bottom of the pic Omar and Jerry?
Obviously I have zero inside access but one could believe that Omar and Jerry are not really on the same page and have become reduced to communicating to each other through the media. First Omar’s quoted about the whole too many teams are in it, there are few willing partners, now Jerry quoted as there better be a trade. It’s getting hot in herre.
sabermetrician
6/28/2009-6:16pm at 6:16 pm (UTC -4)
Brilliant strategy – wait until you’re out of it and then mortgage the future.
stickguy
6/28/2009-6:17pm at 6:17 pm (UTC -4)
And of course, this is really Jerry throwong the whole team under th ebus. Basically saying the guys I am stuck with I have to use, but they suck.
Jerry needs to go for a lot of reasons, but the most important one is that I’m tired of him!
GravediggerHebner
6/28/2009-6:19pm at 6:19 pm (UTC -4)
Hypothetical question: if a fairy granted you a wish in which you could get rid of either Jerry Manuel or Luis Castillo, but not both, which would you get rid of?
saltygary
6/28/2009-6:21pm at 6:21 pm (UTC -4)
Oh please fairy please sprinkle the pixie dust on Citi so no more players get injured and deliver the man with the stash Bobby V. 2010!
saltygary
6/28/2009-6:19pm at 6:19 pm (UTC -4)
Looking at the season pessimistically this could be the last day the team is above .500, I really hope that’s not true. It shouldn;t be true. If it is, then lets hold of on any trade that is for this season please.
GravediggerHebner
6/28/2009-6:23pm at 6:23 pm (UTC -4)
Didn’t Craig Monroe get waived by Pitts like 10 days ago? I’m surprised Omar hasn’t signed him yet.
charlies
6/28/2009-6:57pm at 6:57 pm (UTC -4)
Well, when you look at what garbage the Mets are throwing out there tonight, how can they wait much longer for the team, er the injured players, to return?
Murphy
Cora
Wright
Sheff
Tatis
Fmart
Bschneid
Castillo
How are the Mets supposed to beat the Yankees tonight with that lineup?
Ridiculous.
GravediggerHebner
6/28/2009-7:02pm at 7:02 pm (UTC -4)
You guys were talking about Ollie in the previous thread. He finished with 5 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 6 strikeouts, and after 6 innings Brooklyn is winning 13-3 (Cyclones reliever Turgeon gave up those 3 runs).
steveo
6/28/2009-7:08pm at 7:08 pm (UTC -4)
Before the season started and Murphy was a question mark didn’t Omar say that a big bat would be easy to acquire at the deadline? .Didn’t he know that he would have no one to trade ? Amazing this is our gm we are stuck with him for what 3 more years.
GravediggerHebner
6/28/2009-7:14pm at 7:14 pm (UTC -4)
The deadline is still over a month away, and he has minor leaguers to trade, it’s a matter of whether he wants to part with them or not. Holt, Mejia, FMart and even Parnell have value as young players with upside.
steveo
6/28/2009-7:35pm at 7:35 pm (UTC -4)
But who would you trade these guys for ,who’s worth giving these guys up for that’s not a rental player.Part of this bad resoning that I mention is thinking ahead to who is going to be availible .Omar says he won’t give up the farm for a rental player and I applaude that, but going into the season he should have done better evaluating other than leaving all his apples in one basket on a salary dump player which is what I believe is the only option now.
GravediggerHebner
6/28/2009-8:35pm at 8:35 pm (UTC -4)
Do we know who’s going to be available on July 31st today? I don’t. I think expecting Omar to KNOW that in February is being unfair. To expect him to have made some educated guesses, which still have a month to either pan out or not, seems more reasonable to me.
trs86
6/28/2009-7:17pm at 7:17 pm (UTC -4)
We have plenty of guys to trade and still can, but there is not a game changer on the market right now. I mean would you have traded Parnell for Mark DeRosa?
gategem
6/28/2009-7:41pm at 7:41 pm (UTC -4)
Over at MetsGeek they have a St. Louis Cardinals fan (he is not a troll) that regularly posts and he equated Chris Perez to Parnell and yet he still believed the trade to be a steal for St. Louis.
With Nady out for the season the Yankees may be looking for a right handed bat and the one advantage the Yankees have is they would be willing to take a huge salary off of another teams hands similar to the way they acquired Bobby Abreu.
metsfan4decades
6/28/2009-7:29pm at 7:29 pm (UTC -4)
So is Church out b/c he caught the flu bug or is this a complication of his concussions last year?
As far as waiting until we are under.500 for a trade…that could come as early as tomorrow. Sigh…..
I don’t think I like the idea of a trade just to get an impact player for the rest of this year – or even a couple of months until some of the guys get back. We’re gonna over pay, not matter what the trade right now so if we do a trade now, it should be for someone who will be an asset for a couple of years, at least.
Or…..we wait a month until more players are available on the trading block and ‘prices’ might come down.
Mr North Jersey
6/28/2009-8:28pm at 8:28 pm (UTC -4)
It is sad when you wonder about the what if’s this season.
What if Mets signed Manny?
What if Mets ate Castillo’s contract and signed O-Dog?
What if there was no W.B.C. this year?
What if Mets signed Lowe?
What if? What if? What if?
Hindsight is 20/20.
GravediggerHebner
6/28/2009-8:33pm at 8:33 pm (UTC -4)
No need to worry about the first two, cuz they just weren’t ever going to happen. I like the WBC question. If Ollie Perez had been healthy, I think it’s reasonable to think he would’ve given the Mets close to what Lowe has given the Braves (7-6, 4.53). So I nominate the WBC as the cause of all our woes.