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Jun 29

Game Thread: Mets (37-37) vs Brewers (40-35)

Game Time: 7:05

Game Time: 7:05

Record: 3-0 Era: 1.31 K: 13 BB: 9 WHIP: 0.97

Record: 3-0 Era: 1.31 K: 13 BB: 9 WHIP: 0.97

Mets Notes:

  • Nieve keeps chilling opponents’ bats, holding the Cardinals scoreless on three hits in six innings to improve to 3-0 in three starts in place of the disabled John Maine. Nieve has given up just 10 hits in 20 2/3 innings as a starter this season and has lowered his ERA to 1.31. Nieve is 1-0 with a 4.00 ERA in three career appearances against the Brewers, including one start. Back on May 2, 2006, Nieve allowed four runs on six hits in seven innings at Miller Park, earning the win for the Astros.
  • Nieve’s only previous start against the Brewers was a memorable one on May 2, 2006, at Miller Park. He allowed four runs over seven innings to earn his first major league victory, 8-5 with Houston.
  • The Mets (37-37) have fallen to the .500 mark for the first time since May 6 after scoring three runs while being swept over the weekend at home by the New York Yankees. They are starting a seven-game trip, and continue to be without regulars Carlos Beltran, Carlos Delgado and Jose Reyes.

LINEUP

A. Reyes, SS

Murphy, 1B

Wright, 3B

Sheffield, LF

Church, RF

Martinez, CF

Schneider, C

Castillo, 2B

Nieve, P

Record: 5-4 Era: 5.16 K: 52 BB: 25 WHIP: 1.40

Record: 5-4 Era: 5.16 K: 52 BB: 25 WHIP: 1.40

Brewers Notes:

  • Milwaukee’s Braden Looper tries to avoid finishing with a winless June. Looper is 0-1 with a 7.18 ERA in five starts this month since his last win May 29 against Cincinnati. The right-hander gave up three runs over six innings Wednesday in a 4-3 win over Minnesota. He suffered a contusion on his right triceps after being hit by a line drive in the fifth, but said that he would be OK.
  • Looper, a former Met, has made one start and 46 relief appearances against New York, going 3-1 with a 2.35 ERA. The lone start came with St. Louis on April 4, 2007, when he allowed three runs over six innings in a 10-0 loss.

LINEUP

Counsell, 2B

Hardy, SS

Braun, LF

Fielder, 1B

McGehee, 3B

Cameron, CF

Catalanotto, RF

Kendall, C

Looper, P

Please win tonight guys...its a long way down

Please win tonight guys...its a long way down

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54 comments

  1. metsfan4decades

    AReyes leading off? Sigh….
    I guess you have to give Jerry 2 points for creativity but does anyone think this will be any kind of advantage?

    1. trs86

      For who?
      I have no idea what the hell he is doing.

      1. metsfan4decades

        LOL. Yeah, I give up…..

      2. wannybackstra

        “I have no idea what the hell he is doing.”

        Then you and Jerry are on the same page!

        (why would he think Reyes is better off in the leadoff spot than Castillo?)

        1. Kingman 26

          Why the hell would he think Argenis the Anemic is a better leadoff hitter than frigin Nieve?!

          I love the team, I have not given up, but Jerry is a clown who is just missing long yellow shoes and a bright red nose.

          Argenis should never, ever play.

  2. saltygary

    I handled this weekend OK but if they love to F’n Looper I’m gonna be ripped. LG u effing Mets!!!!

    1. metsfan4decades

      “LG u effing Mets’. LOL.
      Have to take my enjoyment where I can find it these days. Thanks for the chuckle.

  3. Kingman 26

    OK, I am back with the optimists, but Argenis Reyes is not a major league player.

    He does not belong on the team, in any situation, ever.

  4. GravediggerHebner

    Wow, the middle infield right now is A. Reyes and Tatis. Wow.

    1. fongy2

      So much for Freddy Snow!
      Wow!, is this team tough
      to watch!!!

      1. GravediggerHebner

        Hey welcome back Fongy. You should check this out:

        http://realdirtymets.com/2009/06/13/congratulations-fongy-and-case/

        1. fongy2

          Very Nice!
          Thank You!

      2. Kingman 26

        Welcome back buddy and congrats!! I hope things have been great for you.

        Other than the Mets, of course….

        1. fongy2

          Thank you both!
          Its been an outstanding couple of weeks! Haven’t seen much baseballand as
          a result, far
          less agita!

  5. sabermetrician

    Okay, so we lose for the fourth straight day. Nieve should have some value left despite getting hammered. If we can trade Nieve and Murphy for something I’d be pretty stoked. There’s no reason to think we can’t send Nieve and Murphy to KC for Teahen, maybe throw in one more prospect. Omar needs to make a move soon. I realize it’s extremely difficult right now, but if we don’t do something soon it may be too late.

    1. Kingman 26

      Yeah, there ain’t too much sand left in our hourglass….

    2. GravediggerHebner

      When the “regular” Mets get healthy, Teahen is an excellent bench player to have, but until that time, I don’t see how he helps much. If he plays every day til the end of the season (in a normal ballpark) I’d expect .270 with 8 or 9 home runs.

      1. fongy2

        at least hes a professional baseball
        player. Any little bit
        would help right now.
        So long as it doesnt cost FMart,Parnell,
        Niese,Holt or Mejias.

        1. GravediggerHebner

          Good point. At this stage I’m far less concerned with who they bring in, and far more concerned with what it costs. If we keep the family jewels intact, bring in whoever is a bona fide major league ballplayer.

          1. fongy2

            Spot on!

        2. steveo

          Nothing will help its over Brian Stokes isn’t very good Fernando Neive has proven why he was dumped by the astros but thanks for the 3 great starts. I think the mets should skip Johan tommorow why waste precious pitches from his valuable arm. Guys its over shut the tvs donate the met tickets to charity. And prey for 2010 realy prey that omar is assigned to vp duties only and hire a proven gm one that has built a successful franchise.

          1. sabermetrician

            I don’t think this season is done yet, but we are dangerously close. We just don’t have enough major league talent at this point. The sad thing is, we started this season with a minor leaguer in left field when there were a ton available on the free agent market. We don’t sign Ollie, we could have had Dunn and Hudson with Luis as a bench player. And we’d only be on the hook for 2 years and 1 year, respectively.

          2. Kingman 26

            Well Steve, “prey” that we get another GM who can build a team with Johan, KRod, Beltran, and Delgado, steal a Maine, and build a really solid bench, and who has the wisdom to sign Wright and Reyes to VERY affordable long-term deals.

          3. steveo

            Lets see Reyes and Wright would have been signed to an extension by anybody with a heart beat .Beltran was about waiving money at a player remember he was going to the yanks when omar committed to another year and 20 mil,Delgado was someone who didnt want to come here in 2005 thats why he signed with the marlins and we got him in a salary dump .Johan again was a move that whoever sent the most got the rights to talk to him it was like signing a free agent .Maine was a great move and Im not bagging on Omar because he has done more for this team in 5 years than any of the previous at the top of the helm but I still think he would be better at vp a title I think he holds as well.The thinking mans job is for a proven frachise builder.Omar and his great personality (and I really do mean that) should be there for wooing potential players which he does do well.and milking more money from team ownership which he does well.

  6. GravediggerHebner

    Well, anyone familiar with my “work” knows that I am an optimist. But that GS by McGehee, when we look back on it after the season, that was the last nail in the coffin of this team. Only if the Mets come back and win this game will I believe otherwise.

    1. fongy2

      Long way to go yet!
      Big rally! Started by Tatis!
      Here we go Bisons here we go!
      Errr, Lets Go Mets!!!

      1. GravediggerHebner

        Thank you Fongy. I think it was Stickguy who said about himself “I shouldn’t post in here during the games, I’m too emotional.” Well I shouldn’t either.

        1. sabermetrician

          I know I shouldn’t but I get so freaking worked up.

          1. fongy2

            You should lower
            expectations.At least until
            we get healthy
            or Omar
            gets some help.

    2. sabermetrician

      It’s amazing to me. He drops that ball and he redeems himself with his bat immediately. We have guys effing up all over the place who can’t seem to ever redeem themselves. Don’t get me wrong, Luis has been terrific since his blunder; but we’ve had so many bonehead miscues that never get immediately righted. I just despair.

      1. fongy2

        Not fielding enough
        MLB players.
        Although I’d like to
        see a whole new Coaching Staff, they
        at least seem to be trying for Jerry.
        Omar!,Send help!
        We ain’t dead yet
        BUT the pulse is
        getting weaker!

        1. sabermetrician

          It’s true we have minor leaguers all over this team. Martinez, Murphy, Evans, A. Reyes, Dessens, etc, etc.

          1. fongy2

            Kids and
            AAAA players.
            I’ve seen expansion lineups
            better than the
            ones we’ve
            put out there the past few
            weeks.

  7. sabermetrician

    Has anyone heard anymore on Beltran’s second opinion? The way things are going I won’t be surprised if we hear tomorrow that he’s out for the year.

    1. GravediggerHebner

      All I’ve read is that he’s in Vail visiting with the same people who operated on ARod. I haven’t heard anything about what they’ve found or recommend.

      1. fongy2

        b/t/w, Kate Hudson
        anyone?! Mmm,Mmm
        good for you ARod!

        1. GravediggerHebner

          Good for him, yes. But lowers my esteem for her.

          1. sabermetrician

            LOL, that was my thought exactly. I thought, “When did she get desperate?”

          2. fongy2

            My friggin’
            EXACT
            thoughts
            when I first heard about it!

          3. GravediggerHebner

            I can’t remember who it was but someone did a humorous bit on TV about how Kate Hudson is bad for men, and listed guys she’s been associated with and the bad things that have happened to them.

            The guy from the Black Crowes hasn’t had a hit record since he was with her, and I think she dated Owen Wilson who allegedly tried to kill himself, and there was a 3rd example but I forget who it was.

          4. Kingman 26

            I think Owen tried to off himself after watching the two of them in You Me & Dupree….

      2. sabermetrician

        Oh man, let’s hope that he will be well by the end of the break. I can’t take much more of this.

    2. fongy2

      Nothing on his second opinion
      BUT I’ve heard Bel-Tron is
      Soft.

      1. Kingman 26

        Not the way he plays the field my friend….he does not always run full speed on the bases and avoids collisons when running the bases, but in the field, soft he most definitely is not….

  8. steveo

    Wow parnell was a trade chip till tonight

  9. fongy2

    HELP OMAR! THE SHIP BE SINKIN’!

  10. jonnyballgame

    I should really wait until we find out if this is legit.. but I thought I would post it anyways… K-ROD say it aint so..

    MLB RUMORED 103 ANONYMOUS STEROID LIST FROM 2003

    1.Nomar Garciaparra
    2.Manny Ramirez
    3.Johnny Damon
    4.Trot Nixon
    5.David Ortiz
    6.Shea Hillenbrand
    7.Derek Lowe
    8.Pedro Martinez
    9.Brian Roberts
    10.Jay Gibbons
    11.Melvin Mora
    12.Jerry Hairston
    13.Jason Giambi
    14.Alfonso Soriano
    15.Raul Mondesi
    16. Aaron Boone
    17.Andy Pettitte
    18.Jose Contreras
    19.Roger Clemens
    20.Carlos Delgado
    21.Vernon Wells
    22.Frank Catalanotto
    23.Kenny Rogers
    24.Magglio Ordonez
    25.Sandy Alomar
    26.Bartolo Colon
    27.Brent Abernathy
    28.Jose Lima
    29.Milton Bradley
    30.Casey Blake
    31.Danys Baez
    32.Craig Monroe
    33.Dmitri Young
    34.Alex Sanchez
    35.Eric Chavez
    36.Miguel Tejada
    37.Eric Byrnes
    38.Jose Guillen
    39.Keith Foulke
    40.Ricardo Rincon
    41.Bret Boone
    42.Mike Cameron
    43.Randy Winn
    44.Ryan Franklin
    45.Freddy Garcia
    46.Rafael Soriano
    47.Scott Spiezio
    48.Troy Glaus
    49.Francisco Rodriguez
    50.Ben Weber
    51.Alex Rodriguez
    52.Juan Gonzalez
    53.Rafael Palmeiro
    54.Carl Everett
    55.Javy Lopez
    56.Gary Sheffield
    57.Mike Hampton
    58.Ivan Rodriguez
    59.Derrek Lee
    60.Bobby Abreu
    61.Terry Adams
    62.Fernando Tatis
    63.Livan Hernandez
    64.Hector Almonte
    65.Tony Armas
    66.Dan Smith
    67.Roberto Alomar
    68.Cliff Floyd
    69.Roger Cedeno
    70.Jeromy Burnitz
    71.Moises Alou
    72.Sammy Sosa
    73.Corey Patterson
    74.Carlos Zambrano
    75.Mark Prior
    76.Kerry Wood
    77.Matt Clement
    78.Antonio Alfonseca
    79.Juan Cruz
    80.Aramis Ramirez
    81.Craig Wilson
    82.Kris Benson
    83.Richie Sexson
    84.Geoff Jenkins
    85.Valerio de los Santos
    86.Benito Santiago
    87.Rich Aurilia
    88.Barry Bonds
    89.Andres Galarraga
    90.Jason Schmidt
    91.Felix Rodriguez
    92.Jason Christiansen
    93.Matt Herges
    94.Paul Lo Duca
    95.Shawn Green
    96.Oliver Perez
    97.Adrian Beltre
    98.Eric Gagne
    99.Guillermo Mota
    100.Luis Gonzalez
    101.Todd Helton
    102.Ryan Klesko
    103.Gary Matthews

    1. trs86

      Who knows about this list?

    2. saltygary

      I saw it linked earlier here. When you look at it, it’s entirely possible but there is no source. There are around 750 MLB players, so just pull 15% of the players names out of the hat and some will be true. A bunch on there were on the Mitch report. I think the most damaging (if it’s real which it prob isn’t) is Helton. I don’t think I’ve heard one rumor about that guy since it’s always about avr and not the hr.

    3. dirtysanchez

      where did you get this list?

  11. dentulous

    man, WTF is wrong with our bullpen? They cost us the game IMO.

  12. dentulous

    This is killing me, there is not one part of this team that is shining right now, our offense sucks, the bullpen has gone from one of the best to a piece of garbage, and our starting pitching has been meh.

    When it rains, it pours…..

  13. tkfj

    Bunch of everyday A rod’s out there. Getting RBI’s and hits in a 10-3 game. Way to do it when it doesnt make a difference in the outcome.

    Woo. I love me some MESS.

  14. saltygary

    Brutal…

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