“If anyone wants me tell them I’m being embalmed.” Casey Stengel
Here’s what you missed on Tuesday, June 30, 2009:
- Morning Open Thread by CaseStreet
- Draft And Follow 6-30-09 by GravediggerHebner
- NL East Daily Recap from 6-29-09 by mrose
- Lots going on at TRDMB by trs86
- Injury Update: ‘Tis but a Scratch (Bruise) by trs86
- Paradise Lost by prismo
- Game Thread: Mets (37-38) vs Brewers (41-35) by dirtysanchez
- Conundrum Contest – Win a Copy of Greg Prince’s “Faith and Fear in Flushing†by prismo
- Post Game: Moe-mentum by GravediggerHebner
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31 comments
saltygary
7/1/2009-7:11am at 7:11 am (UTC -4)
I’m glad I drank a lot last night.
rustyjr
7/1/2009-7:29am at 7:29 am (UTC -4)
u know we can make this into a drinking game – chugalu after every 1-2-3 inning the mets have or have a drink after every bone head play or every head scratching move jerry makes
metsfan4decades
7/1/2009-8:09am at 8:09 am (UTC -4)
“If anyone wants me tell them I’m being embalmed.†Casey Stengel hahahahaha.
I think us fans are starting to get a sense of what it must have been like back with the early teams…
trs86
7/1/2009-8:10am at 8:10 am (UTC -4)
I am so pissed right now that Jerry I don’t have a clue Manuel is going to bench Wright and Sheff in the middle of a 5 game losing streak.
prismo
7/1/2009-8:13am at 8:13 am (UTC -4)
Against the ace of the Brewers’ staff no less.
There's Always '47
7/1/2009-8:18am at 8:18 am (UTC -4)
Why are you surprised? He benched Wright and Beltran for a game against Josh Johnson.
trs86
7/1/2009-8:19am at 8:19 am (UTC -4)
That was MUCH different and he did not bench Beltran that game.
There's Always '47
7/1/2009-8:24am at 8:24 am (UTC -4)
Well at that time, Beltran and Wright were the only hitters he had (much like today).
This is a danger zone. Loss today coupled with a Phillies win and we are 4 back, 3 games under, and showing no signs of coming out of it. Follow that up with a 3 game series in Philly. That can be bad news. I think Omar needs to decide what he is going to do. We can’t limp into Philly with this current roster and expect to take 2 of 3, or even hope to take 1 of 3. We haven’t shown an ability to hit bad pitchers, or even struggling ones with 10+ ERA in over 7 starts (Wang). He can either mortgage the future and try to get an impact bat in time for the weekend, or I think he needs to stay put and hope for the best.
I’m hoping he is in a holding pattern.
charlies
7/1/2009-9:21am at 9:21 am (UTC -4)
no, it’s not a danger zone…you want to know why? it’s all in one of the versions of your name (There’s Always ’10).
There's Always '09
7/1/2009-9:55am at 9:55 am (UTC -4)
Haha…you’re right. I wouldn’t fault Omar for trading Sheff or Livan.
charlies
7/1/2009-10:06am at 10:06 am (UTC -4)
Nor would I. What to do with this team?
metsfan4decades
7/1/2009-8:16am at 8:16 am (UTC -4)
Good read over on Mike’s Silva’s blog this morning:
He makes a point concerning Jerry – one that became evident last night after the closed door meeting that Jerry commented on:
‘I have been a big supporter of Jerry Manuel. I believe he does a great job communicating with his players and the media. With that said, he has dropped the ball over the last few weeks. He continued to stress how this team needed to play perfect, that they were undermanned, and not good enough. Perhaps he thought that was going to motivate them to play above and beyond, but in reality it probably did the opposite. Now he preaches that they are good enough to win with that they have. You can’t go back Jerry. Did he lose these guys? The only hope is that this group has enough pride to continue to play hard. They aren’t buried yet, but are heading down that road’
Also a chuckle:
‘If you listened to the post game show on SNY you could tell even Ron Darling had enough. By the way, Hernandez is even funnier when Darling is not in the booth because he has to pay attention 100% of the time. You get classic Keith as a duo with Gary Cohen. That is why this summer, regardless of the teams performance, will never get boring.’
trs86
7/1/2009-8:19am at 8:19 am (UTC -4)
Agreed with the reading, I think Jerry thought he could accomplish two things and it did not work.
1) Push Omar for a trade
2) Back hand challenge the players. Which seems to be the only way he knows how to do it, see Ryan Church. “You are not as good of a hitter as our scrub LF”
There's Always '09
7/1/2009-8:29am at 8:29 am (UTC -4)
2) seems to have worked. Church has outplayed Murph this year!
charlies
7/1/2009-9:23am at 9:23 am (UTC -4)
or…has murph underperformed church?
There's Always '09
7/1/2009-9:54am at 9:54 am (UTC -4)
Murph has underperformed Church, but outperformed J-Troll.
saltygary
7/1/2009-8:52am at 8:52 am (UTC -4)
The best was in the early nineties before a weekend telecast. McCarver Healy and Kiner would be rip roaring drunk just talking crap and laughing at the own stupidity. There was one game I remember vividly where they opened the show with the camera on them and they are all red faced laughing and can’t get through their opening analysis. Those were bad days in Mets land.
dirtysanchez
7/1/2009-9:05am at 9:05 am (UTC -4)
what did ron say?
DNDJohan aka kistics
7/1/2009-9:38am at 9:38 am (UTC -4)
He said that this team sucks and the manager sucks even more. What is wrong with FMart and Johan? This offense has made a 30-yr old career minor leaguer a Cy Young winner. Now that this team will face the Ace with no Wright and Sheff…. this team really sucks.. oh by the way, this team really sucks and the manager sucks even more. FMart needs to be sent down immediately. He’s not ready. He’s only 20 and cannot help the team. He’ll be discouraged.
Oh BTW, this team really sucks and the manager sucks even more.
There's Always '09
7/1/2009-8:39am at 8:39 am (UTC -4)
TRS, I thought about what you said. I’m back to ’09 and not to be changed until next year. LGM!
I still think we need to think about next year. That’s not to say we should give up on the season. We should explore cheap trade options to improve the roster a little bit. I wouldn’t trade any mid-top prospects for a rental that will most likely end up inthe Bronx.
trs86
7/1/2009-9:12am at 9:12 am (UTC -4)
I completely agree that we should think about this year AND next year. Salary dumps or future core members that’s it. Guys like Rios and Teahen or guys like Huff that go away if we want them to.
stickguy
7/1/2009-10:05am at 10:05 am (UTC -4)
Agreed. I want a better product next year, and if Oar is going to make some moves now, treat it as a combo of trying to stabalize the current team while getting a head start on the off season!
CaseStreet
7/1/2009-9:07am at 9:07 am (UTC -4)
anyone look at the Amazin Getaway package. $799 is kind of expensive, no?
There's Always '09
7/1/2009-9:09am at 9:09 am (UTC -4)
To go where?
CaseStreet
7/1/2009-9:17am at 9:17 am (UTC -4)
Escorted deluxe motorcoach transportation round trip from Citi Field
Four nights accommodations
· One night in Cooperstown, Two nights in Buffalo and one night in Binghamton
Admission to Baseball Hall of Fame
Game tickets on August 11, 12 & 13
VIP On the field Experience August 12 before the Buffalo Bisons game
Excursion to Niagara Falls including the Maid of the Mist boat excursion
saltygary
7/1/2009-9:36am at 9:36 am (UTC -4)
Guess it all depends if there are roaches in the hotel
DNDJohan aka kistics
7/1/2009-9:39am at 9:39 am (UTC -4)
No uhhh escorted service?
CaseStreet
7/1/2009-9:44am at 9:44 am (UTC -4)
Tomorrow’s the last day for all-star voting
There's Always '09
7/1/2009-9:46am at 9:46 am (UTC -4)
Stuff the ballot box for Beltran.
metsfan4decades
7/1/2009-10:23am at 10:23 am (UTC -4)
Why? He’s not going to the All Star Game even if he’s the top vote getter.
CaseStreet
7/1/2009-10:35am at 10:35 am (UTC -4)
Cuz he deserved it. Doesn’t Ibanez deserve it too?