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Jul 02

Game Thread: Mets (38-39) vs Pirates (36-42) Make Up Game-Rain Delay Again

Game Time: 12:35 pm

Game Time: 12:35 pm


Record: 1-3 Era: 6.35 K: 30 BB: 19 WHIP: 1.48

Record: 1-3 Era: 6.35 K: 30 BB: 19 WHIP: 1.48

Mets Notes:

  • It all fell apart for Redding in a hurry on Saturday against the Yankees. After giving up two hits in the first five innings, Redding allowed four runs on four hits on four consecutive pitches in the sixth, leading to a 5-0 Yankees’ win. Redding is 2-2 with a 3.79 ERA in 11 career starts against the Pirates, including an 0-1 mark with a 6.38 ERA in five starts at PNC Park. Pirates shortstop Jack Wilson owns a .385 career average against Redding in 26 at-bats. Redding is glad to finish June — historically his worst month — and enter July, when he’s 9-11 with a 4.91 ERA in his career.
  • The Mets (38-39) are tied with Pittsburgh (36-42) for last in the majors with 49 homers. The Mets’ lineup averaged 2.4 runs in losing five straight to close out last month, and had just five hits Thursday in Milwaukee.
  • Redding is 0-1 with a 6.38 ERA in five outings in Pittsburgh and Wilson is hitting .385 (10 for 26) versus him.
LINEUP
Castillo, 2B
Cora, SS
Wright, 3B
Sheffield, RF
Tatis, LF
Church, CF
Evans, 1B
Santos, C
Redding, P
Record: 5-4 Era: 4.35 K: 63 BB: 33 WHIP: 1.42
Record: 5-4 Era: 4.35 K: 63 BB: 33 WHIP: 1.42
Pirates Notes:
  • After laboring through much of June, Maholm closed it out with a bang in his final start of the month. Not only did Maholm snap a personal two-game losing streak, but he did it with the benefit of his sinker, a pitch that had eluded him at times this month. Maholm was also notably efficient, as he typically is when he’s at his sharpest. Maholm is 3-2 with a 3.65 ERA in six career starts against the Mets. Paul Maholm faced the Mets on May 9 in New York, yielding seven runs and 10 hits over five innings in a 10-1 loss. He’s 3-2 with a 3.65 ERA in six career starts versus the Mets. Maholm is 3-1 with a 1.96 ERA in six home starts this season, and he looked solid there against Kansas City on Friday. The left-hander gave up two runs and five hits over seven innings in a 6-2 win.
LINEUP
McCutchen, CF
Wilson, SS
Young, RF
Ad. LaRoche, 1B
Jones, LF
An. LaRoche, 3B
Diaz, C
Vazquez, 2B
Maholm, P
hree games with this team — I know they’re a big-league ballclub, but we’re better than them. We’re better than them. And we know we’re better than them, but we have to do something about it

Three games with this team — I know they’re a big-league ballclub, but we’re better than them. We’re better than them. And we know we’re better than them, but we have to do something about it

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78 comments

  1. CaseStreet

    Let’s Get It On!

  2. dirtysanchez

    Man its still coming down pretty bad

  3. charlies

    this is ridiculous! raining during a rain makeup game. i can’t remember ever seeing this.

    1. dirtysanchez

      haha irony ;p

      1. charlies

        “iron”y in the steel city! (oy vey)

        1. dirtysanchez

          hahaha

        2. There's Always '09

          Hahah…good one!

          1. charlies

            i try, i try…

  4. charlies

    Keith says he’s “going to play stratomatic” during the rain delay!

  5. There's Always '09

    Hey guys, if you follow this link to yahoo sports, the rain delay is over. It’s just like a regular Mets game. Guy gets to 1st base and stays there all day!

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=290702123

  6. mrose

    anyone else done with Redding?

    1. charlies

      i hope omar is…

    2. wannybackstra

      I should never have let TRS convince me that signing Redding was a good idea. Now I am stuck with that on my record.

      1. sabermetrician

        It’s alright Wanny, I was there too. But I still think it can be good if he is more of a long man/emergency man.

    3. wannybackstra

      Someone please get the fork…

      And dare I say, Ollie Perez too…?

  7. billydeewilliams

    is this team serious?

  8. billydeewilliams

    Who can’t beat the pirates? The Mets can’t!

    1. There's Always '09

      they have more extra base hits today than we have in the last month!

  9. metsfan4decades

    Can’t afford starts with less than stellar pitching. We’re not going to score many runs so we have to keep the opposition off the board.

    5 runs in already in the third. Get him out of there. Not that it will make a difference b/c who thinks we’ll get 6 runs here?

  10. sabermetrician

    Who was it the other day who said, “Redding has not been a problem for this team” when I said that he would be better suited as the long reliever?

  11. mrose

    seriously, losing games against the yankees without hitting i was ok w/ because we have none… and somehow losing games cause of errors i figured what can we do, etc..
    but today I am pissed..I am so sick of Tim Redding’s mediocre crap

    1. wannybackstra

      mediocre would be a vast improvement.

    2. There's Always '09

      Got news for you, this ain’t mediocre. This ain’t mediocre in little league, tee ball, or wiffle ball. This is a massacre.

      1. mrose

        good point…
        either way..this is the most annoyed i’ve been at any loss this season

  12. saltygary

    Good to know the Bucs aren’t too down about the trades today.

  13. metsfan4decades

    Nothing has gone right for this team this year.
    Livan/Garcia/Redding were all signed as depth to compete for the 5th start. We really were not suppose to be seeing Livan and Redding in the starting rotation at the same time. Certainly not for any length of time.

    Can’t get on Livan b/c he’s been better than advertised. But Redding? Good for a spot start and pen use only.

  14. billydeewilliams

    Runs? What are runs?

    1. metsfan4decades

      LOL.

  15. sabermetrician

    Wow, Murphy doing something. This is rare, but appreciated.

  16. wannybackstra

    Santos has been at his best in these situations. I expected a big hit from him. Thankfully, Murphy picked him up but it would have been nice for Omir to have at least hit a sac fly.

  17. wannybackstra

    Luis Castillo cues TA ’09…

    1. wannybackstra

      Or is that queue?

  18. sabermetrician

    Well, we did what we do best: GIDP.

  19. billydeewilliams

    I don’t enjoy being so negative about this team, but I just can’t help it.

    1. wannybackstra

      You’re ignoring the positives. For example, in between the bases loaded strikeout and double play, there was an actual run producing hit. And just after that, the Mets pitchers brilliant aim continues to shine as they’ve managed to hit yet another hitter.

  20. wannybackstra

    Ryan Freel has been DFAd. For those of you who thought Juan Pierre or Chone Figgins could help, their clone is available for relatively nothing.

    1. GravediggerHebner

      In getting Pierre they’d be getting someone who’s hot. Freel at .143/.226/.143 doesn’t exactly come in hot. But at least he’s a defensive liability at more positions than Pierre.

      1. wannybackstra

        Or in getting Pierre they’d be getting someone who will be coming down to earth, i.e. the .330 OBP he’s had the last four years.

  21. wannybackstra

    Tatis needs to not be playing so much anymore.

    I know, obvious and overdue observation.

    1. wannybackstra

      Okay. Maybe he can play a little longer.

      1. GravediggerHebner

        :-)

  22. metsfan4decades

    O.K. boys! Never say die.
    Tie score, new ballgame.

    1. billydeewilliams

      I hate eating my words.

  23. wannybackstra

    The Mets will use a dozen relief pitchers at this rate.

    1. metsfan4decades

      Hey, whatever it takes. Hopefully, we threw the scrubs out there early and Stokes, Green, Feliciano will get the job done.

      1. There's Always '09

        i thought you said the scrubs would be out there early.

  24. CaseStreet

    I love my team.

  25. metsfan4decades

    Wow – Tatis! Who would have thought?
    8-5 Mets now.

    1. wannybackstra

      Clealry I am step ahead, MF4D:

      wannybackstra says:
      Thursday, July 2 2009 at 3:19 pm
      Tatis needs to not be playing so much anymore.

      I know, obvious and overdue observation.

      1. metsfan4decades

        LOL.
        Tatis actually having a good day.

  26. sabermetrician

    This would actually be a huge win. This would be doing something we haven’t really done this year: comeback.

  27. There's Always '09

    Bench Castillo!

    1. sabermetrician

      And play A. Reyes? You’ve been playing this card too long ’09. Did you see yesterday’s game? Have you been watching this season. Castillo has been pretty good for us. Much better than Murphy.

      1. GravediggerHebner

        Seriously. Yesterday you (TA ’09) named 30 2B you’d rather have than Castillo. Just because you’d rather have them doesn’t mean they’re better. In fact in that thread I outlined how 12 of the names you brought up are clearly worse than Castillo. So is he great? Absolutely not. But he’s serviceable and he’s having a productive year in the context of what he’s capable of, which is getting on base and stealing bases. He came to camp in better shape and apologetic about previously not being so. He manned up on the dropped pop up against the Yankees. Yes there are better players, but they are not viable and or available options for the Mets. This team has plenty of people to pick on who deserve it. Why you and Stickguy continue to focus on Castillo is beyond me.

    2. saltygary

      Castillo is the last guy the Mets need to do anything about right now.

  28. sabermetrician

    Frankie’s standard, let the first guy reach. It’s usually fine, but the way Jones is hitting today it’s a bit scary.

    1. sabermetrician

      Or LaRoche. Damn it.

  29. wannybackstra

    You have got to be kidding me.

    1. sabermetrician

      Since the Luis drop Frankie has been shaky.

      1. mrose

        ugh
        I was just thinking before that that this would be probably the worst day to blow one, being we only have Bobby former 100 in the pen….

        1. wannybackstra

          No pinch hitters left and only Parnell in the pen.

          Frankie will have to make it through two now.

      2. wannybackstra

        Indeed. Is there a correlation or was K-Rod just due to struggle some too?

        And don’t forget he let two runners on before Castillo dropped A-Rod’s pop-up.

    2. saltygary

      I came here to type that exact line.

      1. wannybackstra

        Feel free to join in my disbelief, frustration and weeping.

  30. mrose

    are they chanting “k-rod”?

    1. GravediggerHebner

      Yes, Keith noted this on the broadcast. Until he did, I thought they were chanting “pay-roll.”

  31. wannybackstra

    Looks like Ryan Church will be benched for the Philly series!

    1. dentulous

      yeah, he wont be in the lineup for a while…. haha

  32. dentulous

    My God Finally. boy Frankie…..46 pitches in 2 innings, least hes got some endurance. Nice comeback win guys.

  33. metsfan4decades

    Frankie with a blow save and the W. Baseball is a funny game…

    Tatis and Church! Woo-Hoo. Tatis deserves the masseuse on the plane ride back. Poor guy is probably all black and blue.

    Must score many runs off Lopez tomorrow night as it’s a sure bet KRod is not available.

    1. wannybackstra

      Eddie Coleman just said “Great performance by Frankie Rodriguez.”

      Huh?

      1. dentulous

        Man I hope he gets i together during his day off.

      2. stickguy

        hu sucked in the 9th. 4 hits, and a couple of smoked outs?

        At least 4 balls crushed (the 1st hit ws lucky).

        wonder if the Pirates GM called Omar in the 9th to see if he wanted to take Laroche to Philly with him?

      3. GravediggerHebner

        perhaps “epic” would’ve been more appropriate

  34. stickguy

    ugly, but right now, any way they win is fine. although don’t expect K Rod to sit tomorrow, even though he really should.

    Just have a laugher and not need him!

    Hope the braves win and nats lose now, so only 1 out.

    And after the the way they played the last week, that is truly amazing.

    Nice to see some O for a change. And having Church hot is great.

    1. prismo

      You say it’s ugly…I say the Mets came back from a 5-run deficit to win a game in extras. :)

      1. stickguy

        yes, that part was good.

        let me rephrase: Fantastic game by the Mets, other than Redding and K Rod who were ugly.

        Better?

        1. prismo

          Well…Krod had one great inning!

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