Game Time: 12:10pm
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The Nose's Record: 1-1 Era: 4.50 K: 16 BB: 8 WHIP: 1.42
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Mets Notes:
Niese increased his personal streak of scoreless innings to 11 Thursday night while pitching against the Rockies, but allowed four runs in the sixth and seventh innings and emerged as the losing pitcher. He allowed eight hits, four to his final seven batters, and three walks, two in the sixth. Now he is to experience another first — the Cardinals and Albert Pujols. Niese’s record is 1-2 and his ERA 5.46 in five career starts (28 innings) at Citi Field.
Record: 4-6 Era: 4.14 K: 51 BB: 22 WHIP: 1.28
Cardinal Notes:
The Cards liked what they saw from Lohse his last time out, as he turned in his best game since he returned from injury. Lohse still isn’t getting quite as deep into games as he was before he suffered a right forearm strain, but the better his stuff and command get, the more chance he’ll have of doing that. He missed the Cardinals’ earlier trip to Citi Field, but allowed a run over five innings in beating the Mets in St. Louis in April.
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42 comments
metsfan4decades
8/5/2009-12:36pm at 12:36 pm (UTC -4)
Niese hurt?
I absolutely cannot believe this.
proudmetfan
8/5/2009-12:43pm at 12:43 pm (UTC -4)
God has cursed this team. That is my only conclusion. How many now, 18? We are witnessing something not natural my friends.
wannybackstra
8/5/2009-12:49pm at 12:49 pm (UTC -4)
What happened to Niese?
wannybackstra
8/5/2009-12:50pm at 12:50 pm (UTC -4)
If Nelson keeps hitting triples, we won’t need Niese!
proudmetfan
8/5/2009-12:51pm at 12:51 pm (UTC -4)
Congrats, Nelson, you are not a complete failure.
There's Always '10
8/5/2009-12:53pm at 12:53 pm (UTC -4)
Initial report from mets medical staff is a ruptured Achilles. My guess is broken arm.
wannybackstra
8/5/2009-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
lol. but that’s an easy mistake!
mrose
8/5/2009-12:59pm at 12:59 pm (UTC -4)
is the ruptured achilles thing a joke?
proudmetfan
8/5/2009-1:06pm at 1:06 pm (UTC -4)
no, it looked like he streched his achilles trying to execute that double play. Its funny how it plays out, with a player literally being scathed at his achilles heel.
There's Always '10
8/5/2009-1:40pm at 1:40 pm (UTC -4)
It was a joke. A little extreme? Sure. Especially for someone following the game online and not on TV. But what else can go wrong? Seriously. This is a joke.
CaseStreet
8/5/2009-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t know what’s more shocking, Mets up 5-0 in 2nd or Niese’s injury.
proudmetfan
8/5/2009-12:59pm at 12:59 pm (UTC -4)
I know this whole thing is absurd!
saltygary
8/5/2009-1:06pm at 1:06 pm (UTC -4)
Hopefully all this is due to the Doubleday family putting something in the water to de-value the team in order to take it back.
charlie_s
8/5/2009-1:14pm at 1:14 pm (UTC -4)
Nelson off life support!
charlie_s
8/5/2009-1:16pm at 1:16 pm (UTC -4)
This is what it takes for the Mets to put up crooked numbers: pitchers driving in runs.
CaseStreet
8/5/2009-1:23pm at 1:23 pm (UTC -4)
scoring runs hasn’t been the problem. It’s been the pitching.
sabermetrician
8/5/2009-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
Watch out, something’s in the air. I agree with Case.
sabermetrician
8/5/2009-1:27pm at 1:27 pm (UTC -4)
They should shut David Wright down before he gets struck by lightning or something.
You can’t make this up, unbelievable.
proudmetfan
8/5/2009-1:27pm at 1:27 pm (UTC -4)
right hamstring strain.
sabermetrician
8/5/2009-1:29pm at 1:29 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, we heard. How can it be? Seriously, how many more guys can go down? Let’s go top 5 draft pick!
fongy2
8/5/2009-2:12pm at 2:12 pm (UTC -4)
Are you sure Zeke didn’t trade THAT one
in the Marbury deal
as well??
sabermetrician
8/5/2009-2:13pm at 2:13 pm (UTC -4)
LMAO, Ah Isiah…
There's Always '10
8/5/2009-2:53pm at 2:53 pm (UTC -4)
I think it was the Howard Eisley trade actually. I can’t believe that guy got paid to do that job. Omar is George Young compared to him.
fongy2
8/5/2009-2:10pm at 2:10 pm (UTC -4)
jeez, i’ve become so disinterested
with this God awful team,its management and training staff,
I didnt even realize today was a day
game. That might be a first.
But still…..Lets Go Mets!
sabermetrician
8/5/2009-2:14pm at 2:14 pm (UTC -4)
I had totally forgotten until noon. Good game for our side, but to what end? I’d almost rather tank to get a protected pick than finish .450.
jaded1983
8/5/2009-2:23pm at 2:23 pm (UTC -4)
Sheff now too? (again) wonderful… this is comical now. not that guys are injured, but that its been the M.O. of our season, and now 3 guys go down in less that 18 hours….
sabermetrician
8/5/2009-2:26pm at 2:26 pm (UTC -4)
Nothing surprises me anymore. Hopefully Omar goes and gets more durable players, like Francoeur (hopefully more patient at the plate though!)
jaded1983
8/5/2009-2:34pm at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)
I think you had it right up to this point:
“Nothing surprises me anymore. Hopefully Omar goes”
sabermetrician
8/5/2009-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
LMAO…that’s a great line. I used to be the biggest Omar supporter, but he’s lost me.
jaded1983
8/5/2009-2:56pm at 2:56 pm (UTC -4)
haha thank you! I used to be the same, really thought he had something goin. But how he has reacted with team needs (read: not being proactive), having a crappy farm with no real help at the AAA level, his recent blunders, poor public speaker, etc etc has really lost me as a supporter.
Although i really wonder if its him, or if he is just a puppet. I honestly think the poor guy is a puppet of the wilpons who do spend a lot of their ML payroll but neglect everything else.
This is the first time in my life that I just want the season to end, and this is coming from a guy who lives and dies with this team.
sabermetrician
8/5/2009-3:02pm at 3:02 pm (UTC -4)
I totally understand. I wait the whole winter for baseball to begin so that I can watch my Mets, but this year I just want to end. It was fun for a while, even in April when we played sloppy ball and were losing, but this is too much.
steveo
8/5/2009-2:43pm at 2:43 pm (UTC -4)
I hope omar goes on the dl for good
sabermetrician
8/5/2009-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
Just a thought guys, but the last 2 seasons we’ve choked, this year we’re beat to hell. So:
Fire Omar, bring in someone with a little experience.
Fire Jerry, bring in Valentine.
Bring in at least two dominant clubhouse personalities, one of which is a true #2 SP.
I’m not being a hater on Omar and Jerry, but I’d like to see if we could shake the cloud over this team.
Potentially trade Beltran.
wannybackstra
8/5/2009-3:13pm at 3:13 pm (UTC -4)
Even if Beltran comes back this season I think the return for him in a trade would be pennies on the dollar. He’s damaged goods now, thanks in no small part to the Mets management of his injury.
trs86
8/5/2009-3:19pm at 3:19 pm (UTC -4)
I am actually ok with pennies on the dollar as long as they pay the cash.
Then go out and get Crawford for half the price.
wannybackstra
8/5/2009-3:27pm at 3:27 pm (UTC -4)
If TB doesn’t keep Crawford they will trade him to someone who will be happy to pick up his $10m option (and hopefully we are that team, with or without Beltran).
I’d be surprised if they let him hit free agency without getting anything in return.
trs86
8/5/2009-3:34pm at 3:34 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed on the fact that it would have to be a trade. I am still looking at the Crawford/Kazmir package. Clears a lot of salary for the Rays to go get a power hitter.
wannybackstra
8/5/2009-3:43pm at 3:43 pm (UTC -4)
It makes sense for the Mets to get involved in that. Hopefully, Kazmir can get healthy and stay healthy.
I wonder what the Mets would have to give in that trade. I’d guess F-Mart would have to be a part of it. Would F-Mart, Niese, Thole and another pitcher or two not named Holt or Mejia get it done?
trs86
8/5/2009-3:54pm at 3:54 pm (UTC -4)
I would think Fmart, Tejada, Holt or Mejia and Parnell would be what they would look at.
We can’t afford to trade Thole unless we have to, considering we have no Catcher prospects. And I don’t think they will want Niese as they don’t need an MLB ready pitcher to slot in #5. If they get one it would be for a #2 pitcher. Any pitchers in the trade would most likely need to be a year or 2 away. Thus Holt and Mejia.
wannybackstra
8/5/2009-3:44pm at 3:44 pm (UTC -4)
Buster Olney’s column today discusses what I have long thought to be the Mets biggest organizational fault: they aren’t aggressive in the draft. From Buster and some AL scouts:
• An AL team executive followed up on Monday’s column about the disparity between teams and about the recent trend of big-money teams to aggressively sign players for more than the slot recommendations made/suggested/demanded by the commissioner’s office. The exec pointed out that the only team among the eight with the highest payroll which doesn’t follow this trend happens to be the same team which wouldn’t make the playoffs if they started today — the Mets, who closely follow the commissioner’s slot recommendations and, because of this, essentially compete against the Red Sox, the Yankees and others with one hand tied behind their back.
In fact, another AL team official noted that a lot of the teams widely perceived to have the worst farm systems during this decade — the Mets, White Sox, Astros and Royals — are also the teams that almost uniformly follow the commissioner’s slot recommendations. (The Royals have veered in recent seasons.)
prismo
8/5/2009-3:15pm at 3:15 pm (UTC -4)
Mets should’ve traded Sheffield, now he’s injured and they can’t.
****!
trs86
8/5/2009-3:19pm at 3:19 pm (UTC -4)
Can’t even do that right.