Fred's Piggy Bank
On June 3rd I posted an article detailing the money that was rotting away on the Mets’ disabled list. What I came up with was the following list:
Angel Pagan – $.575
Alex Cora – $2
John Maine – $2.6
Ryan Church – $2.8
Jose Reyes – $5.75
Billy Wagner – $10.5
Oliver Perez – $12
Carlos Delgado – $12
Carlos Beltran – $18.5
This totaled $66.7 million in yearly salaries, or 48% of the season’s starting payroll of $139.1 mil. Yep, 48 bleeping percent on the DL on June 3rd. Keep in mind, that this is a bit different than in my Money Talks post, as these payrolls are coming from this spreadsheet on Cot’s Baseball Contracts.
But where do we stand now? Better or worse? Let’s check it out…
I should mention that this is all that's left inside it after the Madoff scheme
Fernando Martinez – negligible
Fernando Nieve – $.41
Jon Niese – $.4
John Maine – $2.6
J.J. Putz – $5
Jose Reyes – $5.75
Billy Wagner – $10.5
Carlos Delgado – $12
Carlos Beltran – $18.5
A couple of players are now healthy (or performing poorly in Atlanta), while some new players made the list! All this for a grand total of… *drum roll* … $55.9 million! So, monetarily speaking, the Mets aren’t quite as unhealthy as there were 2 months prior. By the way, $55.9 mil is 40% of the year’s starting payroll.
As a comparison, sitting on the Phillies disabled list are Bastardo, Condrey, Durbin, Pedro Martinez, JC Romero, and Myers. These gents add up to $20.9 mil in 2009 salary, or 16% of the Phillies’ starting payroll of $128 million. So if you ever hear a Phillies fan saying “well we have players on the DL too!” you can retort with “but the Mets have 24% more of the team’s payroll injured!”
64 comments
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-3:24pm at 3:24 pm (UTC -4)
Yay! My team is in 1st place in percentage of total salary on the DL! Suck on that 29 other so called Major League baseball teams!
stickguy
8/10/2009-3:54pm at 3:54 pm (UTC -4)
Met fans. Always looking for the silver lining to the dark cloud.
rustyjr
8/10/2009-6:38pm at 6:38 pm (UTC -4)
first off alex rios to the white sox
secondly – we won yesterday wheres megam?? !!
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-7:33pm at 7:33 pm (UTC -4)
“A couple of players are now healthy (or performing poorly in Atlanta)…”
If Church is performing poorly in Atlanta I guess the POS that we got for him ought to be sent to Double A.
Church in ATL : 124 OPS+
Francoeur in NY: 104 OPS+
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-8:10pm at 8:10 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t have any particular issues with the Church/Francoeur swap. The way I see it the Mets traded a 30 year old oft-injured part time player for a 25 year old never injured player.
On a team experiencing injury in record setting ways, that counts for something in my book. On that point I notice Church appears in no box scores from July 30th-Aug 4th, I’m assuming he was injured yet again.
IMO Church was simply one of many subordinate parts ill cast to help put the main guys over the top. If Francoeur turns out to be yet another one of those, then we swapped one player who wasn’t helping enough for another and I find it hard to get upset about that.
But no denying Church does have the superior OPS+ since the trade. And I have to say I find it much more reasonable reading your “I hate Francoeur” posts than I ever did reading the many “I hate David Wright” posts that permeated the other place and sometimes show up here. Your “I hate Francoeur” posts are rational, based on something tangible and a body of work, not irrational based on one time leaving a runner on third.
I’m not suggesting you ever wrote an “I hate David Wright” post, I’m just comparing the 2 concepts and their supporters approach to them.
whataputz
8/10/2009-8:14pm at 8:14 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll say it..I hate David Wright. Does this now make me public enemy number one on this website? Probably.
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-8:24pm at 8:24 pm (UTC -4)
On the list, but not necessarily number 1.
I tease, but I think most people here respect your opinion even though they disagree. I’ve always respected your opinion even though we’re on opposite ends of the spectrum on David Wright.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-8:24pm at 8:24 pm (UTC -4)
No, not public enemy number one. But I would like to ask you a serious question.
Do you really “hate” him?
Take a moment and think about the word “hate” and what it means, and think about other things in the world that you may “hate” (Phillies? Hitler?) and then I would like you to answer that question as honestly as you possibly can.
Do you really “hate” David Wright?
whataputz
8/10/2009-8:37pm at 8:37 pm (UTC -4)
I root for him every single time he gets up to hit a home run or do whatever needs to be done. However it is in my opinion that he does not get it done when it counts. I’ve seen the stats, heard the counter argument, and based on my eyes I have formulated that hypothesis. I am incredibly frustrated that no one ever gets on Wright. I think Wright is a little bit overrated, and that if he wasn’t a good looking smooth talking country boy, he wouldn’t be who he is. I mean, I understand the guys at ESPN are not the gods of baseball, but these are guys who get paid to talk baseball, and more than half picked Wright to be MVP! These guys actually thought he would be better than freakin Albert Puljos and all other NL players, and that is scary. I don’t think Wright is what his stats say he is. his fielding is glorified by freak nice plays, but he often screws up the most basic of plays.
And for reasons I cannot explain, I do not have a hate for Philly. I want them to lose, but if I am watching them on tv play the nationals or whoever isn’t the Mets I don’t find myself saying “O man I hate this victorino guy!”..it’s just that they are a real likeable team. They’re not a bunch of superstars, they give it 100%, they are scrappy hard working clutch players, not a bunch of overrpaid superstars collected to form one giant mega team (see NY Yankees). While I want Philly to lose, I don’t hate them. I felt the same way about Atlanta when they were good too. I guess theres only room in my heart to hate 1 team.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-8:51pm at 8:51 pm (UTC -4)
Thank you for going further into depth on this, I appreciate it. You could’ve just told me to go to hell so I’m thankful you continued to engage in dialogue.
So unless I misread something then you don’t “hate” David Wright.
It seems from reading your comment above that you are angry with Wright in part because he did not become what ESPN panelists suggested he should be.
To that I can only respond ESPN is more a part of what’s wrong with society than they are a part of what’s “wright” with it.
They are a greedy mega corporation obsessed with promotion and cross promotion (did you see the Baseball Tonight with the American Idol winner on it? WTF was that?)
They are keenly aware that NYC is one of the most populous regions in the country (they even built their campus conveniently nearby) and they do and say many things in a calculated way to stir interest.
Don’t let them try to tell you what David Wright is or isn’t. Formulate your own opinion. If as you said, with your own eyes Wright doesn’t get it done when it counts, no amount of me showing you numbers that refute that is going to change your mind.
But at least that is your own opinion based on what you can see. I can accept that even though I disagree with it. But I can’t accept that David Wright isn’t good enough because some guys on ESPN said he should be MVP. They’re trying to make a name for themselves. Imagine how “smart” they’d be and how often they’d remind you that they picked him if he won it. If every person on the panel picked Albert Pujols that may be the smart pick but it doesn’t make good television.
So I hear where your coming from. I disagree, but I hear you.
Again, thank you for elaborating.
whataputz
8/10/2009-9:00pm at 9:00 pm (UTC -4)
It’s not just because ESPN analysts, I just used that as an example of how he is overrated.
The fact is Wright has failed to rise to the occasion. He did nothing in the playoffs. Where was his big home run in game 162 of 07 and 08? If you really want to be known as an all time great or a hall of famer you have stand out. Just because you get a hit 3.3 out of every 10 times, doesn’t make you a baseball great. People tend to overlook the fact that stats are just numbers. Yes that ratio is better than almost all of Major League baseball, and that is impressive, but I’m still waiting for Wright to get the big hit in the big spot.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-9:08pm at 9:08 pm (UTC -4)
I can’t argue with you about “the big hit in the big spot” which I guess means the game winning jack to win a post season series, and God forbid if he does that to win a future NLCS but strikes out in the similar situation in the WS, I guess that would make him a loser a week after he was a winner?
If you want to appreciate, say, Aaron Boone more than David Wright because Boone hit a walk off post season homer, then you have every right to do that.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:10pm at 9:10 pm (UTC -4)
I am not having this ridiculous argument with you again. However ,the part about the MVP stuff is because the MVP award is broken. It now seems to go to the team that wins their division. At the time it looked like the Mets would win the division AND the Cardinals had no chance. Thus Wright, if he played well and the Mets won, would have incorrectly gotten the nod over Pujols. That’s a broken system but you should not take it out on Wright. Fact is there is not another 3B in the league that I would take AND to the fact that he is cheap as well. Maybe he is not your posterboy but he is a very professional player that I am proud is a member of our team.
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-8:21pm at 8:21 pm (UTC -4)
Sorry Heb, can’t help myself sometimes.
You and I have discussed the trade before and I see the logic of it. In fact I don’t even decry the trade. I don’t even hate Francoeur. I’m just sick of people trying to make him out to be part of the core. He’s not. He’s a role player, who is at best an average player.
To say Church has played poorly in Atlanta is a huge oversight. He’s been every bit as good as Francoeur here.
You’re also right in that I haven’t written ‘I hate Wright posts.’ To do such would deny a player who has started his career on a Hall of Fame path.
I hope that Francoeur is part of a WS team here at some point, but I think to overlook RF thinking that Francoeur is the final answer is a mistake as well.
whataputz
8/10/2009-8:23pm at 8:23 pm (UTC -4)
Plenty of hall of famers that have won nothing.
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-8:25pm at 8:25 pm (UTC -4)
It’s true, and Wright may end up being that. I hope not, but it could take a while at the very least.
whataputz
8/10/2009-8:27pm at 8:27 pm (UTC -4)
And lets get this straight. Wright is a tremendous player, at a position that is not usually held by tremendous players. With that said, I want to start seeing winning before I crown him the golden boy…even if that losing isn’t his fault, you are what your team is.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-8:37pm at 8:37 pm (UTC -4)
I understand and cannot deny that there are many hall of famers that have “won nothing” but you know what they still are? Hall of Famers.
It’s a team sport. One Hall of Famer can’t take 24 pieces of garbage to the World Series.
I don’t know where all this unfortunate “golden boy” stuff started. I’m pretty pleased for the moment that he is a “tremendous player at a position that is not usually held by tremendous players.” He’s only 26.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:12pm at 9:12 pm (UTC -4)
Mike Schmidt syndrome.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-8:31pm at 8:31 pm (UTC -4)
No need to be sorry. You express your opinion on this topic (and many others) in a way that is easy for someone who may not entirely agree with it to understand and accept.
I agree that to lump Francoeur into “the core” going forward is not a sound strategy. I’m simply hoping he’ll come through better as a member of a supporting cast, but we both know there is little evidence to support the idea that he might.
I just believe the possibility exists and am hoping that the right combination of factors work together to make it happen. But there’s nothing I can point to to say “see this is going to work.” Most, if not all the evidence supports your point of view. Fortunately for me I’ve got some free time to continue to grasp these straws.
whataputz
8/10/2009-8:40pm at 8:40 pm (UTC -4)
It’s just really hard to stay positive when you’re a Mets Jets Knicks and Rangers fan…and am not old enough to appreciate any of their championships.
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-8:48pm at 8:48 pm (UTC -4)
I’m with you man. While those aren’t all my teams I haven’t seen ‘my’ team win a championship. I was old enough when the Mets won (9), but I wasn’t a sports fan yet.
I feel so desperate for a Mets’ championship.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-8:57pm at 8:57 pm (UTC -4)
I guess then we’ve hit on the thing that allows me to maintain some sense of positivity as a sports fan: I’m a Mets, Knicks, Rangers and Giants fan. So the Giants keep me positive I guess.
prismo
8/10/2009-9:02pm at 9:02 pm (UTC -4)
*high five* for same teams Grave!
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-9:13pm at 9:13 pm (UTC -4)
right back atcha!
prismo
8/10/2009-8:52pm at 8:52 pm (UTC -4)
Good point, but you have to admit that his 9 RBI since the trade is less inspiring than Frenchy’s 19.
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-8:54pm at 8:54 pm (UTC -4)
I’m not a big fan of RBI as a metric. I will admit though that I have enjoyed what Francoeur has done for us since his arrival, even beyond driving in runs.
whataputz
8/10/2009-8:21pm at 8:21 pm (UTC -4)
I think so far the Francour trade has been a good one for the Mets. There is no doubting that he has played very well in a Mets uniform, and no arguing that he is younger than Ryan Church.
however, I am not completely sold on this guy as our every day right fielder next year, but it certainly looks like this may be the case. Obviously we want Francour to play well for the rest of this season, but we cannot truly evaluate this deal until next year. After all, Francour’s revitalization this year could turn out to be a disaster for the Mets. You gotta love baseball
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-8:27pm at 8:27 pm (UTC -4)
You have summed things up well about Francoeur.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:13pm at 9:13 pm (UTC -4)
Problem is we don’t have the funds or resources to upgrade LF and RF. I am fine with Frenchy until the ASB next year and see where we are, Frenchy is and Fmart is.
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-8:38pm at 8:38 pm (UTC -4)
Bottom line is that for us to get where we want we must supplant the Phillies. That may not be possible if we are carrying Murphy and Francoeur as everyday players:
Say we land Molina next year
Ruiz/Molina – wash or minor win for Mets +1
Howard/Murphy – landslide win for Philths -2
Utley/Castillo – landslide win for Philths -2
Feliz/Wright – landslide win for Mets (debatable this season) +2
Rollins/Reyes – wash
LF/Ibanez – landslide win for Philths -2
Vicky/Beltran – landslide win for Mets +2
Werth/Francoeur – wash at best, most likely win for Philths -1
-2
Hamels/Santana – win for Mets +1
Lee/Pelfrey – landslide win for Philths -2
Happ/Perez – landslide win for Philths -2
Blanton/Maine – wash at best
Moyer/Niese- win for Philths -1
-4
Lidge/KRod – wash
Madson/Parnell – win for Philths -1
Rest of pen – wash
-1
Bench – wash
Admittedly this is a very unscientific approach, but it shows us at -7. How many positions can we be visibly weak at before we are forced to throw in the towel.
whataputz
8/10/2009-8:42pm at 8:42 pm (UTC -4)
The second i read beltran a landslide over victorino I stopped reading your post. Shane victorino is one of the most underrated players in the game. The guy is as clutch as it gets. sure Beltran is all around better than Victorino, but with victorinos age, and Beltrans health, “landslide”=”Bullstuff” (blog edited, and you say it’s dirty)
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-8:51pm at 8:51 pm (UTC -4)
Sorry man, I can’t say that Vicky is anywhere near Beltran. I don’t believe he deserved to be an all-star this year and I don’t believe he is underrated. While I believe he’s a great role player, I can’t go beyond that. He’s gritty and has “heart,” if you will. But sometimes your lineup makes you better than you are, not the other way around.
sabermetrician
8/10/2009-8:52pm at 8:52 pm (UTC -4)
But just for fun, set my +2 to +1, wash, -1, whatever you wish. Let’s compare aside from that one position.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-9:02pm at 9:02 pm (UTC -4)
Victorino is also quite the hypocrite. He slams the Mets for clapping and dancing while he claps and dances. He says he doesn’t appreciate KRod’s post-save gestures, then does them himself. Did you see that yesterday he got thrown out of the game by the home plate umpire while on defense in CF? He was gesturing wildly (the thing he says he doesn’t like about the Mets) and the umpire didn’t appreciate it and threw him out. Getting thrown out for something that stupid is incredibly selfish. Then he charged the ump. What a hypocrite! He makes it so easy to dislike him.
whataputz
8/10/2009-9:05pm at 9:05 pm (UTC -4)
My argument is this..have shane victorino raise his hand in the air and stare at his championship ring.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-9:12pm at 9:12 pm (UTC -4)
OK, so you get to be a hypocrite if you have a ring? I would hope that someone who is a champion would act like a champion, but if he wants to be a little dick then he is what he eats.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:23pm at 9:23 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe Krod is just raising his hand to look at his championship ring?
whataputz
8/10/2009-9:28pm at 9:28 pm (UTC -4)
It gives you alot of credibility and wiggle room. I didn’t as much as say k-rods name in any extent. Obviously a ring is not license for being a jerk, but it’s not like the Mets aren’t cocky. There’s a reason all of baseball hates us. A reason Florida grins it out in the final games when they are done just to stick it to us. I’d rather be a jerk with rings, than a gentlemen loser.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:33pm at 9:33 pm (UTC -4)
I think this year will go a long way towards getting rid of the everyone hates us term.
But you also have to understand the I hate NY mentality. Not because of what they did or who they are but because where they are. Being from Braves country the reason they hate the Mets is because of the media coverage, budget and just general dislike of anything from the north especially New York. If you want to see Braves coverage on TV it comes from the local networks. Espn is no dummy they know they what markets to push.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:21pm at 9:21 pm (UTC -4)
How can you give LF to the Phillies when most likely we will have a new one? Not to mention Ibanez will be a year older and could have injury issues. Also we will not go with Maine and Niese in the rotation in my opinion. Saying Lidge and Krod are a wash is laughable at best. Take a look at their stats, unless you think that Lidge will just revert back to his career year. The Phillies bench was one of the worst in baseball this year MUCH worse than the Mets. I don’t really want Molina but again Ruiz to Molina is not a wash, Ruiz is hitting .230 with 5 HR. Lets see what else? Wright debatable against Ruiz this year? So the 100+ points in OPS does not do it for you? And lets not go crazy with Happ yet. He is just as capable of stinking as Perez is having a rebound year.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-9:19pm at 9:19 pm (UTC -4)
Whata, I guess my last pre-game thought before I have to go on David Wright is this.
If he is overrated in your opinion, that is in part because you allow him to be. If you simply consider him what you judge him to be, a “tremendous player” as you said above, then maybe you’d be able to appreciate him for who he is instead of lamenting the fact that he’s not what some pundits suggest he should be.
Is he Albert Pujols? Absolutely not. But what he undeniably is is one of the best all around position players ever developed in the history of the Met franchise. Why anyone would spend time belittling that when, with a slight conscious alteration of the context in which they view him, they could be enjoying him, is beyond me.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:22pm at 9:22 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed, you don’t even have to be the best player on your team to be the face of the franchise. The Yankee’s have proven that for years.
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-9:24pm at 9:24 pm (UTC -4)
Oh snap!
whataputz
8/10/2009-9:30pm at 9:30 pm (UTC -4)
If I met Derek Jeter I would have to fight myself not to shout out and call him a bad name, and that he is a raging homosexual, but with that said DAVID WRIGHT COULDN’T EVEN HOLD JETERS JOCKSTRAP.
prismo
8/10/2009-9:32pm at 9:32 pm (UTC -4)
Oh my gosh! A homosexual? Get the pitchforks!
GravediggerHebner
8/10/2009-9:36pm at 9:36 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll get the torches. And the torch songs!
trs86
8/10/2009-9:35pm at 9:35 pm (UTC -4)
Not sure what his sexual preference has to do with anything and I disagree about the jockstrap but hopefully Wright would not touch it, let alone hold it.
whataputz
8/10/2009-9:41pm at 9:41 pm (UTC -4)
If you think david Wright is anywhere in the same planet as Jeter you
A. Work for the Elias sports Bureau
B. Don’t value World series Champiponships or clutch performance, or winning for that matter.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:52pm at 9:52 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, I guess you hated Dan Marino and think Mike Schmidt sucked.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:52pm at 9:52 pm (UTC -4)
I think we should trade Wright for Eckencrappy or Castillo, they have rings. Wait a minute we already have Castillo, move him to 3rd.
whataputz
8/11/2009-12:26am at 12:26 am (UTC -4)
I think higher of Eckstein than I do Wright. If Wright accomplishes what Eckstein has accomplished I would be thrilled. If Wrights career ended tomorrow, what exactly has he done? Eckstein has 3 rings and a World Series MVP. He played important parts in all 3 of those rings he has. Yes Wright puts up better numbers than Eckstein ever has, but you seem to be a statistically bias judge of success.
Do you understand what the difference is between a .275 hitter and a .330 hitter? The 275 hitter will get 275 hits in 1000 at bats, whereas the .330 hitter will get 330 hits in 1000 at-bats, that’s all that means. It doesn’t detail how many important hits, it doesn’t detail if you’re just scrubbing it up then getting on tears, or if you consistantly get 3.3 hits every 10 at-bats.
There are certain intangibles and factors outside of mere numbers that reveal the success of a player. for instance, you can put up phenomenal numbers in the regular season and not do jack when it counts and be thought of as a loser. Just look at A-rod.
It takes a certain person to be able to get it done when it counts. It’s a lot easier to double in the 4th in Washington in May than it is to hit a single with the bases loaded and two outs in front of a packed crows in a high stakes game. How are you considered a winner if you never win anything?
Sure not every single player must win a championship to be respected, but you certainly earn it by getting it done on the big stage. Does anybody care about Mike Sweeney? The guy put up some very nice stats.
trs86
8/11/2009-12:36am at 12:36 am (UTC -4)
Well that seals, it.. Mind if I publish this as a way to show the darker side of being a Mets fan? Maybe even delusional side?
whataputz
8/11/2009-1:05am at 1:05 am (UTC -4)
What does that even mean? What is the goal of an MLB season? It’s to win a championship. I don;t give a fu** who hits for what average, who hits how many hr’s, all that matters is that the team wins. Apparently watching the Mets lose so much has completely destroyed any hope or concept of winning a championship and has caused you instead to escape into a world in which statistics only matter.
How did they ever evaluate players before the days of statistics? Did they watch to see how they performed in games or did they just go by their ratio of hits to outs?
trs86
8/11/2009-1:13am at 1:13 am (UTC -4)
Baseball is and always has been a game of stats, ask Ty Cobb who was so upset with all the attention that Babe Ruth got.
Anyway, so you think we would have a better chance of winning a WS with Eckencrappy?
GravediggerHebner
8/11/2009-1:15am at 1:15 am (UTC -4)
I find this whole conversation astounding.
Whata, how can you be a Met fan when by your standards all their players have been worthless for 23 years?
Something doesn’t add up.
You claim you hate the Yankees, yet you speak about baseball like a Yankee fan.
trs86
8/11/2009-1:18am at 1:18 am (UTC -4)
I just really don’t understand how you can use championships won over every other stat? So you would rather have Eric Bruntlet than Wright?
GravediggerHebner
8/11/2009-1:24am at 1:24 am (UTC -4)
In Whata World,
Mike Piazza sucked,
Joe Girardi, best catcher ever!
whataputz
8/11/2009-9:09am at 9:09 am (UTC -4)
I said Exckstein is more accomplished than Wright is. Wright has playred 5 seasons! How can you tell me he has accomplished moe than a guy with 3 rings and a world series MVP?
I’m a Mets fan, I root for the Mets to win. If David Wright or Hose Reyes or Delgado get traded, than I don’t care what they do. This isn’t 1940, players come and go. There’s a fine line between more accomplished and a better player. Yes Griffey was a better player than Eckstein. His stats are so good that it overtakes Ecksten, same goes for A-rod and Piazza.
But I don’t understand how you can just totally dismiss world series rings and WS mvp awards, just pecause their stats might now be great. Is not like eck rode the bench an never contributed anytung for his rings. Thats got to amount for something! Good stats and rings are better than great stats and nothing. Obviously not everyone wins and some great players win nothing, but you can’t just take away the fact that 3 times he has won it all.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:30pm at 9:30 pm (UTC -4)
One thing on Church’s stats. We know Church is very streaky, he has had to hit .389 the last 7 games to get his stats up to that. Also until this hot run he was a platoon player. Wouldn’t a player that can’t hit against his splits have better stats in a platoon? He is still hitting .206 against LHP. Granted Frenchy is not great against LHP but it’s not that bad. I think if Frenchy can rebound this year he will also have much more trade value next year if needed as well.
whataputz
8/10/2009-9:38pm at 9:38 pm (UTC -4)
Alex Rodriguez, Ryan Zimmerman, Chipper Jones, Miguel cabrera (he can play third), Kevin Youklis, EVAN FREAKIN LONGORIA! Pablo sandaval, Mark Reynolds
All players I would rather have than Wright at third base.
If you’re talking long term..Youk, Longoria, Zimmerman, Arod, Sandaval, Reynolds
Yes you an apply the same unclutch argument with Arod and that is true, but Arod is so good he can carry a team, something Wright cannot due.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:51pm at 9:51 pm (UTC -4)
Arod, no because of pay, Zimmerman yes, Chipper can’t play 4 games in a row, Miggy was TERRIBLE at 3B, Youk yes, Longoria’s OPS is the same as Wright but ok, Pablo has proven nothing and would not be a good 3B longterm, Reynolds I can take. However if you were answering MY question I said in this league.
trs86
8/10/2009-9:41pm at 9:41 pm (UTC -4)
On a side note with the WSox taking Rios I am guessing Dye may be available? Unless they plan on having the worst OF in MLB history and having Dye, Rios and Quentin. Also, how are they paying for all of this? LOL
trs86
8/10/2009-9:44pm at 9:44 pm (UTC -4)
Well I figured out the pay. They were down this year and have a lot of money coming off the books.