Game Time: 7:10pm
El Gordo's Record: 7-7 Era: 5.28 K: 74 BB: 50 WHIP: 1.57
Mets Notes:
After finishing July with three straight quality starts, Hernandez has faltered in each of his past two outings, including a loss to the D-backs his last time out, when he allowed five runs on seven hits and couldn’t reach the fifth inning. Monday’s start will be Hernandez’s first against the Giants since May 15, when he took a no-decision after allowing five runs in five innings at AT&T Park.
- Record: 2-1 Era: 6.00 K: 8 BB: 4 WHIP: 1.83
Giants Notes:
San Francisco (63-54), which has dropped six of nine, counters with rookie Joe Martinez. The right-hander, a native of South Orange, N.J., is looking to rebound from a 9-1 loss to Los Angeles on Tuesday when he walked three and allowed four runs and seven hits in 4 1-3 innings. Martinez, who will make his third career start, is 1-1 with a 5.79 ERA in two appearances since returning from the disabled list after getting struck in the head by a line drive by Milwaukee’s Mike Cameron on April 9.
44 comments
tkfj
8/17/2009-9:41pm at 9:41 pm (UTC -4)
Livan stinks but Redding is even worse. Thanks for another great signing FO, you’ve given me so much hope and faith for this next offseason. I had no idea a career ERA+ of 85 warranted as much money as we gave Redding.
fongy2
8/17/2009-10:11pm at 10:11 pm (UTC -4)
I Told Ya So!!!!
fongy2
8/17/2009-10:18pm at 10:18 pm (UTC -4)
Now, did I read correctly that Omar
said Dave Wright was suffering from
“Post concussion syndrone”????
Who did this come from? Our Medical/
Training staff?? If so, that alone should be reason to find a whole
new staff!!….Post concussion syndrone CANNOT be identified and
correctly diagnosed until a minimum
of 7 to 10 days AFTER a concussion
has been confirmed.
This team really is unbelievable!!
Again, please,for the love of God….
Freddy, CLEAN HOUSE!!
tkfj
8/17/2009-10:22pm at 10:22 pm (UTC -4)
Wait, you are actually trusting Omars opinion on any matter? He doesnt know baseball to well, and now hes trying to be a medical specialist. What a buffoon.
GravediggerHebner
8/17/2009-10:41pm at 10:41 pm (UTC -4)
I haven’t seen that quote anywhere.
What I have seen multiple places is that David Wright is suffering post concussion symptoms, not syndrome. Symptoms. They both start with “s-y” but there is an important difference. Every interview I’ve seen and every quote I’ve read they have been very careful to use the word “symptoms.”
Speaking of things that sound like that I am enjoying my night off from post game blogging by watching NY Giant linebacker Clint Sintim rush the passer quite well.
trs86
8/17/2009-10:54pm at 10:54 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, you may get two nights off. No questions yet for the Dirty Table. LOL. Bad timing.
fongy2
8/17/2009-10:55pm at 10:55 pm (UTC -4)
REAL bad!
fongy2
8/17/2009-10:55pm at 10:55 pm (UTC -4)
He isn’t suffering
“post concussion”
anything Heb!
He HAS a concussion.
Jesus Christmas!
metsfan4decades
8/17/2009-10:57pm at 10:57 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve read in several blogs it’s stated he has ‘post concussion symptoms’, not syndrome.
Symptoms meaning, headaches, etc – which I’m assuming is the same as actually having a concussion.
trs86
8/17/2009-11:00pm at 11:00 pm (UTC -4)
Well it’s just wording I guess. But according to the net, post concussion can actually be the period directly after the concussion causing event. If those symptoms last more than 2 weeks then it is considered syndrome.
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:05pm at 11:05 pm (UTC -4)
Wherever
you read
THAT…
its flat
out wrong!
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:08pm at 11:08 pm (UTC -4)
PCS isn’t diagnosed until Atleast 7to10 days after suffering the injury.
Unless of course the Mets staff are the ones making the call.
trs86
8/17/2009-11:40pm at 11:40 pm (UTC -4)
Still missing it. Post concussion SYNDROME is not but some consider the symptoms after a concussion event occurs to be considered Post concussion SYMPTOMS.
GravediggerHebner
8/17/2009-11:07pm at 11:07 pm (UTC -4)
One of the definitions of the word “concussion” is:
a violent shock as from a heavy blow.
They are simply using the word concussion to describe the moment the ball hit Wright’s helmet. They would use the word “blow” but they know how immature we are. Every moment since then therefore has been “post-concussion.”
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:10pm at 11:10 pm (UTC -4)
Not per
Mt.Sinaihospital
my friend!
I know,
went through
it!
GravediggerHebner
8/17/2009-11:21pm at 11:21 pm (UTC -4)
I’m not talking about Mt. Sinai hospital.
I’m talking about laypersons (not medical professionals) discussing a blow to the head.
That’s also why it’s very important that they have been correctly using the phrase “post concussion symptoms” instead of what would be the completely incorrect phrase “post concussion syndrome,” because the word “concussion” takes on a different meaning depending on which context/phrase it’s used in.
If at any point someone with the Mets had described Wright’s condition as “post concussion syndrome” your initial point above in this thread would be well taken.
But the fact that they said “post concussion symptoms” is just fine. I have no problem with the phrase whatsoever.
I know you dislike and disrespect Omar and therefore will use anything at your disposal to criticize him, but I think in this case he has (for once) demonstrated excellent command of the English language.
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:27pm at 11:27 pm (UTC -4)
Wow!
”’Just shaking my head over your statement about me….
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:30pm at 11:30 pm (UTC -4)
And b/t/w,if I am incorrect in what I thought I heard this morn on FAN,
AND Omar said Post concussion symptoms,he’d STILL be wrong!
HE HAS A CONCUSSION!
Its not “post” anything!
trs86
8/17/2009-11:42pm at 11:42 pm (UTC -4)
Again there are plenty who use the event as the concussion and symptoms as post concussion symptoms. I would hope that most people knew the difference in symptoms and syndrome.
trs86
8/17/2009-11:43pm at 11:43 pm (UTC -4)
So would it really have made you feel THAT much better for Omar to come on and say. David Wright got smacked in the head and we are putting him on the DL?
Or even Wright is suffering from concussion symptoms?
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:47pm at 11:47 pm (UTC -4)
no actually,it would have been nice for Omar to keep his mouth shut as has has lately OR simply say,Wright has a concussion and is being placed on the DL and we’ll see what his condition is in acouple weeks.Like he should have ten diff times with other guys this season.
trs86
8/17/2009-11:54pm at 11:54 pm (UTC -4)
But it’s just words, words that are even acceptable. Omar is not the first person to refer to symptoms after the concussion event as post concussion symptoms.
metsfan4decades
8/17/2009-10:59pm at 10:59 pm (UTC -4)
Best part of this game was the post game, actually Sports Night after that where they played Billy’s interview:
Writers: ‘Do you expect to be traded?
Billy: ‘Do I expect to be traded? Phhht. Are you gonna put words in my mouth or are you gonna print what I say?’
Sports night comment: well, that’s Billy being Billy…..
Kudos to Cora for playing half the season with not one but two tendon problems in both hands. He’ll have surgery in a few short days so he joins the DL party….
trs86
8/17/2009-11:01pm at 11:01 pm (UTC -4)
So he did not answer the question?
metsfan4decades
8/17/2009-11:13pm at 11:13 pm (UTC -4)
Well, he didn’t answer the question about being traded.
He said basically, he wants to come back to help the team, to dispel the rumors that his career is over.
BTW: did we cancel the live chat for tomorrow night? I tried to email my question three times and got:
Delivery to the following recipients was aborted after 0 second(s):
* trs@nleastchatter.com
trs86
8/17/2009-11:44pm at 11:44 pm (UTC -4)
whoops, LOL wrong email. Damn.
trs86
8/17/2009-11:57pm at 11:57 pm (UTC -4)
trs86@nleastchatter.com
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:06pm at 11:06 pm (UTC -4)
Second the thought on Cora!
GravediggerHebner
8/17/2009-11:09pm at 11:09 pm (UTC -4)
Big Blue wins on an interception return as the 4th quarter clock strikes zero. At least one of my favorite sports teams had a good night.
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:11pm at 11:11 pm (UTC -4)
Except the game doesn’t count.
I think they are the NFC favs
though!
GravediggerHebner
8/17/2009-11:28pm at 11:28 pm (UTC -4)
The game counts to all the guys playing in it trying to make the final roster.
At least a pre-season football game has that aspect to it. Unless/until the Mets bring up some actual prospects (at least in the context of their roster) and give them some actual playing time, the remaining regular season Met games seem less significant to me than pre-season football games. That’s freakin’ sad.
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:34pm at 11:34 pm (UTC -4)
Score means nothing though.
Thats what I meant,
Sadly,theres really no one
to bring up.
Another indictment of
Omar and his
staff,but be critical of me
not him.
GravediggerHebner
8/18/2009-12:10am at 12:10 am (UTC -4)
I agree with this particular criticism, because I believe the only person who would have been brought up in this circumstance would have been Niese.
So IMO they had 1 guy to bring up. Unfortunately due to outrageous improbable injury circumstances he was brought up previously, then got injured himself.
But just having 1 guy to bring up isn’t enough.
Also, important point that you have shared with me before so now I’m returning the favor: I’m not being critical of you, I’m being critical of one of your opinions. Huge difference.
You’re always welcome to express your opinions here. I hope you understand though that when someone disagrees with one of them that they are also allowed to express their opinion, and perhaps even engage in productive dialogue with the person with whom they are disagreeing.
trs86
8/18/2009-12:17am at 12:17 am (UTC -4)
Well we had Evans based on last year’s stats and he tanked. Fmart also got injured but was terrible while here. We did trade away most of our MLB ready talent for Johan and Putz. Not saying they were good.
GravediggerHebner
8/18/2009-12:26am at 12:26 am (UTC -4)
That’s why on this point I agree with Fongy.
The other guys we think to mention either aren’t good or, while they had trade value, so far anyway haven’t been good either.
Regardless of what major league team the player(s) may be on right now, the Mets system is not supplying the major leagues with a lot of quality since Omar took over.
fongy2
8/18/2009-12:36am at 12:36 am (UTC -4)
Well thanks! LOVE the new pix Heb!
Where can I go to do one of myself?? And b/t/wTRS,you do know we draft new players every yr,right?
GravediggerHebner
8/18/2009-12:42am at 12:42 am (UTC -4)
Speaking of that, the Mets signed their top pick Steven Matz (2nd rounder). I will note that in Tuesday’s “draft & follow.”
You can make the face/head image at this website:
http://www.planetcreation.co.uk/createpic/
But as far as getting the Met hat put on it, you will have to ask Mr. North Jersey really nicely and maybe he’ll help you. He put the hat on mine. The Met hats might just be for site authors so no promises.
fongy2
8/18/2009-12:48am at 12:48 am (UTC -4)
Alright!
Thanks Again!
And thanks for the good news with the kid from the Island!
Have a good (rest of) the night!
asod75
8/17/2009-11:46pm at 11:46 pm (UTC -4)
G-Men win. I doubt they’ll let me down this year, especially since their front office has a brain and a plan.
fongy2
8/17/2009-11:48pm at 11:48 pm (UTC -4)
AND DEPTH!!!
trs86
8/17/2009-11:53pm at 11:53 pm (UTC -4)
Even though I want Omar fired, you think the Giants would survive if Manning, Jacobs, Umenyiora, Pierce and 2 others went out?
fongy2
8/18/2009-12:03am at 12:03 am (UTC -4)
Survive? Yes,
thrive? no.
However,they
did more than
“survive”w/o
Umenyiora all
season,Jacobs
missing time and Pierce being distracted last
year. Ofcourse
no NFL team can
thrive w/o their QB if hes
on the level
Eli is.
It is apples and oranges
though.
But for the Omar excuse makers,the injuries suffice.
As if this team,if healthy
was going to
thrive this season anyway.
trs86
8/18/2009-12:07am at 12:07 am (UTC -4)
We will never know unfortunately Fongy. We can all debate that one for the rest of the year as that is more fun than watching them. I would have much rather had everyone healthy and see what would have happen and been able to make honest decisions instead of I think so’s. Now no matter what this offseason no matter who is making the decisions it will be full of I think so’s and very few I know so’s.
fongy2
8/18/2009-12:31am at 12:31 am (UTC -4)
Lets all hope it aint Omar!
Time to move on.
I was a supporter
of Omar but have moved far away from that
initially slowly but now as far and as fast as I can AND so should The Wilpons.
They tried and it simply hasn’t worked.