According to JIM BAUMBACH of Newsday in an article he posted yesterday he says that Jose Reyes won’t be back this season. In his article he states “Jerry Manuel said Friday he is “working on the assumption that he won’t be back,” a conclusion the Mets’ manager said he’s reached based on the lack of recent rehab updates regarding Reyes.”
This morning in a post on the “Official Mets Blog” Matt Cerrone goes further on to say “…from what i understand, reyes has been pretty idle for the last week or so… and, furthermore, the team, and some players on the team, are not happy about it… “.
One has to wonder who are these Mets calling into question Reyes desire to get back on the field? What’s your opinion do you feel this is much ado about nothing? Or is this something that can have lasting effects if and when Reyes gets back on the field?
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Reyes In DogHouse With Teammates???
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12 comments
dyhrdmet
8/22/2009-1:33pm at 1:33 pm (UTC -4)
I’m starting to get tired of Reyes. I’d love to see his work ethic and attitude in one of those small markets where they won’t pamper him like they do in NY. He doesn’t seem to care much about working his way back, and I wonder how that will play into his return next season. And he certainly didn’t care enough to get a second opinion on his injury like some of his teammates did this season.
whataputz
8/22/2009-1:45pm at 1:45 pm (UTC -4)
So you want to rush him back to push for third place?He’s smart..I wouldn’t trust this staff either. Sure, his work ethic at times looks pretty bad, but he’s a unique talent that cannot be replaced. Nobody does what he does offensively..o yeah and he’s a stellar shortstop too! O yeah, and he’s only 26! Nothing annoys me more than the Reyes haters, and there seems to be alot of them. Not only is he a very dangerous hitter, he distracts pitchers and gives batters a huge advantage when he’s on base. you will see ho valuable he is when he’s gone, and the Mets spend the next 10 seasons trying to find a shortstop.
GravediggerHebner
8/22/2009-2:14pm at 2:14 pm (UTC -4)
I can’t argue with your assertion that “he’s smart.” I don’t know him, and he and I don’t share a common native language so I can’t make any reasonable judgment on his intelligence or lack thereof.
I think it’s obvious however to anyone who has watched the Mets regularly during his time with them that he is not “baseball smart.” His mental errors on the basepaths are sometimes overcome by his blazing speed but are still errors. His in game situational judgment is mediocre at best. If I could put David Eckstein’s baseball brain in Jose Reyes’ body I would arguably have the best SS in the history of the game. Unfortunately both of them separately are held back by their respective limitations.
The worst thing about this Reyes/injury/not playing situation is that it is a negative for all involved. Reyes has no idea whether he can play or not or when he might be able to because he isn’t testing his ability to do that.
The team has no idea when/if he might play. They can’t plan their SS position for this month, next month or next year because they have no idea when Reyes might come back and what his abilities or lack thereof might be when he does.
And they can’t trade him because his value is at an all time low. If he were able to work through whatever it is that is preventing him from getting on at least a practice field in Florida all parties would benefit because Reyes would have a better understanding of his own immediate future, and so would the Mets. Right now, it’s lose-lose.
Yes, Reyes is 26. When healthy, he does exhibit the qualities you mention that make him a unique and valuable player. But right now none of those things are of any use to anyone. And the longer he, for whatever reason, doesn’t even test his ability under medical supervision on a practice field in Florida, where he could certainly have doctors of his own choosing nearby if he were as smart as we are giving him credit for, to see how far along in his recovery he might be, the longer his unique qualities are useless and his value is nil.
As far as being annoyed by reading that some people are ‘haters’ of a talented 26 year old player, now you know what it feels like to read some of the things I do on here and other sites about 26 year old David Wright.
metsgirl31
8/22/2009-2:27pm at 2:27 pm (UTC -4)
Wow…couldn’t agree more with everything you said…good post!
whataputz
8/22/2009-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
first off, nice shot with the David Wright comment, you know me too well guy..when I said he was smart, i was a sarcastic joke about the mets training staff. Jose probably hasn’t been in a classroom since he was 14 years old, and is probably dumb as a rock. I;mn not about to get in a Reyes vs Wright debate, but I will say you can’t hodl them tot he same standard, because Wright is treated much differently than Reyes..thats all I will say I don’t require a response to that.
I understand the criticism of Jose, but you’re telling me by this offseason they’re not going to have a better idea on Reyes? Just shut him down for a month with absolutely no activity and see how he feels. Send him to other teams doctors and see what they say, and see what to do from there. THe Mets are not signing a SS in the off season anyway, so the Mets and jose have got to really investigate this injury.
My biggest and best point is that when Jose is actually healthy on the field, he is arguably the most dangerous player in the game..arguably.
Mr North Jersey
8/22/2009-4:15pm at 4:15 pm (UTC -4)
I just want to know will Reyes be ready for 2010?
As far as 2009 is concerned I don’t know if I can stomach watching Reyes re-injure himself during a meaningless game in September.
So I guess at this point I’d rather be safe than sorry but I will admit that I can understand the argument for seeing where Reyes is in his rehab stint before the season is over.
The Reyes “is probably dumb as a rock” comment is a little much don’t you think?
whataputz
8/22/2009-4:31pm at 4:31 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe, but he probably is..don’t be such a politically correct party pooper.
Mr North Jersey
8/22/2009-4:34pm at 4:34 pm (UTC -4)
Sorry, didn’t know this was “Politically Incorrect”.
=P
GravediggerHebner
8/22/2009-7:06pm at 7:06 pm (UTC -4)
All fair points.
I don’t know what the real doctors (not the Met staff go betweens, but the real world doctors that have been treating Jose) are telling him, I can only guess.
If they are telling him to “do nothing” than I support 100% him doing nothing.
If they are telling him to get on the field and run around, and he’s not doing it, I have a problem with that.
To be fair to Reyes, I don’t know what the truth is so I’m not going to mount any sort of “anti-Reyes” campaign.
Like you said at the start of this, he’s just 26. He’s still on the upswing in terms of his ML career. He has another year and an option on his contract. Hopefully this will all be a distant memory soon. I am just hoping to get started on putting it behind us sooner rather than later.
CaseStreet
8/23/2009-2:02am at 2:02 am (UTC -4)
“some players on the team are not happy about it”
Who cares? Which one of these guys on the active team will be a starter next year, other than Castillo?
Prob Frenchie and maybe Murph, the only guys coming back. You know the rook Murph ain’t saying anything and Frenchie ain’t saying anything, he’s a newbie. I seriously doubt Castillo is calling anyone out after his performance or lack thereof, last year.
If it’s a P, they better STFU (except for Johan, of course). It ain’t Ollie, cuz he had his own Club Med Vacation. Pelf is basically a newbie, too and wouldn’t say something.
So, who exactly are these “players on the team” that are not happy w/ Jose? The AAA team? Prob, Wags shooting off his mouth, again (I kid).
Mr North Jersey
8/23/2009-9:31am at 9:31 am (UTC -4)
Wow that was awesome can you post that over at MC’s to see how he reacts to it. Oh wait it will never get through his screen squad.
when I made the post I was hoping to illicit posts that did exactly what you just did.
CaseStreet
8/23/2009-10:22pm at 10:22 pm (UTC -4)
tnx, Mr. NJ, the great thing about TRDMB, is that the authors INTERACTS in the comments section. That, to me, is what a blog is about. Otherwise, it’s just a regular website, where the conversation is one sided.