Sep 01
Hat tip to Metsfan4Decades for this one. It’s a great watch, I started laughing out loud. This guy Howard needs to be the new GM. He made this phony author look like Omar. Not to mention it was nice to see ole Jimmy running straight backwards. Even he wanted no part in it.
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53 comments
trs86
9/1/2009-8:43am at 8:43 am (UTC -4)
Guys my firewall is blocking the video. If you guys have problems with it let me know.
metsfan4decades
9/1/2009-9:00am at 9:00 am (UTC -4)
I can see the video just fine.
And wow, she really did a poor job with defending that opinion of hers, didn’t she? She said she didn’t know much about MLB and that was obvious. I don’t think she had any idea throwing out an opinion about the NY Mets having to sell the team was going to be jumped all over as it was here. I haven’t read the book, I’m assuming she’s a fine author so she ought to stick to her day job b/c interviews clearly aren’t her forte…
Duquette was back peddling so hard, it’s a wonder he didn’t hurt himself. LOL.
Didn’t know who Dave Howard was until I saw this clip, but he certainly didn’t pull any punches telling all what he thought of that ‘opinion’ of the Wilpons having to sell.
I too was laughing right out loud.
trs86
9/1/2009-9:03am at 9:03 am (UTC -4)
Thing is he is right, it’s not an opinion. It’s either fact or not fact. Incredible that she tried to use this to sell her book but did not even talk about it in the book?
metsfan4decades
9/1/2009-9:09am at 9:09 am (UTC -4)
Exactly. That was just strange. As I said, I don’t believe she had any idea her throwing out that ‘opinion’ was going to generate that kind of backlash. She clearly wasn’t ready for that.
Bet she thinks twice before she does something like that again.
Welcome to NY baseball, Erin…
trs86
9/1/2009-9:11am at 9:11 am (UTC -4)
See I think she did. Otherwise do you see her being interviewed across the country and news storys that never would have existed otherwise?
metsfan4decades
9/1/2009-9:43am at 9:43 am (UTC -4)
Well, I see your point but I was commenting on her not being prepared for that interview. To me, she really didn’t do a good job at all for preparing for that. I mean, you throw that comment out there, even if it was opinion, and you should be able to back it up somewhat. Sounds like she talked to some ‘former’ front office guy who threw an opinion out there and she picked it up and ran with it.
trs86
9/1/2009-9:59am at 9:59 am (UTC -4)
No she was competeley unprepaired. That is why she reminded me of Omar. She had nothing to back up her claims.
prismo
9/1/2009-9:10am at 9:10 am (UTC -4)
Yep. Looks like she got into something way over her head. She even admitted that she didn’t know much about baseball. How can you write about this stuff at all if you have no clue about how a baseball team is run??
trs86
9/1/2009-9:11am at 9:11 am (UTC -4)
That’s just it, she did not even write it. She just used the comment to promote her book. It’s not even in there. LOL.
trs86
9/1/2009-9:07am at 9:07 am (UTC -4)
Man Dodgers are going all in. Thome and Garland? Those guys could help a little. Especially when the Rockies got Jose Contreras. Really Rockies? Is Omar a Rockies fan?
prismo
9/1/2009-9:14am at 9:14 am (UTC -4)
Seems like they got Garland for almost nothing! Giving up a PTBNL and Zona is paying the rest of his salary for this season!
trs86
9/1/2009-9:23am at 9:23 am (UTC -4)
There has to be more to it. I think that Garland may have been able to use his option? It’s a buy out of 2.5M if team declines and 1M if he declines. What I can’t understand is why the team would have to pay HIM money if HE declines. LOL.
Mr North Jersey
9/1/2009-9:20am at 9:20 am (UTC -4)
What made me laugh was when she said sshe found it funny that they (Mets) were quiet when Larry King said they lost 700 million to which Howard quickly corrected her that he(King) never said the number 700 and that the story was part of a GQ article in March while she thought it broke in June. I mean talk about failing to do your research.
trs86
9/1/2009-9:24am at 9:24 am (UTC -4)
The entire thing made me laugh. Did she not know he was coming on? She just spent the entire time nodding to every thing he said and said it’s her opinion. BASED on WHAT?
Mr North Jersey
9/1/2009-9:29am at 9:29 am (UTC -4)
Based on a 2 decade front office guy of course but what made that funny was listening to Howard say I’m a 2 decade Front Office guy. LoL
saltygary
9/1/2009-9:28am at 9:28 am (UTC -4)
LOLZ this is the best thing that has come out of Mets land in a couple months. We need to have this Howard guy out in the open more often. That is the attitude this team needs to face the media.
Mr North Jersey
9/1/2009-9:35am at 9:35 am (UTC -4)
Ive seen Howard do interviews on SNY during off season to give tour of Citi Fields construction and how vast and costly the responsibilities are in building the stadium and when it comes to the business end of operations he is one sharp cookie so needless to say he came hunting for bear when he appeared on that Fox show and Jim D. wanted no part of it. LoL
trs86
9/1/2009-10:00am at 10:00 am (UTC -4)
Also, why be so specific about who the source is? A guy in the Mets organization that has been there for 20 years. LOL. So that’s uhm that guy and Wilpon. Ok Fred did you rat on yourself? Come on now? Is she your mistress?
fongy2
9/1/2009-10:06am at 10:06 am (UTC -4)
So yet another heavyweight in the
FO says the Madoff thing hasn’t &
won’t effect the team negatively
while no payroll is added and we
watched as the season went down the
drain. Okay, if you say so.
trs86
9/1/2009-10:10am at 10:10 am (UTC -4)
It’s alive….
Welcome back Fongy. I knew you could help us debate this.
So lets see… LOL
Do you think Madoff or not the Mets would have upped their budget last year over the previous year?
Do you think that if the Mets keep the SAME budget this year when many teams slash it will be because of Madoff?
Do you think there is any amount of money the Mets could have spent this year to keep it from going down the drain.
Do you go around looking for red or yellow fire hydrants to piss on? LOL.
fongy2
9/1/2009-10:36am at 10:36 am (UTC -4)
1)I don’t know
2)I don’t know
3)I don’t know
AND 4)Otto the Wonderdog,photo shown
above,doesn’t know what
a fire hydrant is.
He’s a country dog!
I’ll tell ya though,
that piss of his is
wicked strong.
It’s killing my Kentucky Blue Grass!
trs86
9/1/2009-10:41am at 10:41 am (UTC -4)
Well Fongy I have to ask. If you don’t know and evidently don’t have an opinion on it, then how do you post your opinion saying that
“FO says the Madoff thing hasn’t &
won’t effect the team negatively
while no payroll is added and we
watched as the season went down the
drain. Okay, if you say so.”
So are you saying they should have spent more money but did not because of Madoff?
fongy2
9/1/2009-10:50am at 10:50 am (UTC -4)
No friend,
I’m saying that since the Madoff scandal
broke thats all we
have heard yet no payroll
added despite
needing
corner OFers,
going cheap on
a 5th Starter
AND recently
telling us all that despite
Omar and Jerry’s
ineptness,they
are safe
and Ownership won’t
even consider
NOT bringing
them back.
Oh,and
not to mention
the lack
of $$$
spent on
the Draft.
trs86
9/1/2009-11:08am at 11:08 am (UTC -4)
My point is that before Madoff we still did not spend on the draft. Also, I don’t think Madoff had anything to do with the Mets not RAISING their payroll. If they cut salary this year then I think you have more of a case.
Mr North Jersey
9/1/2009-11:18am at 11:18 am (UTC -4)
Lets just take what Fongy gives and be happy with that. Let’s see Fongy agrees that
A) We don’t know if the Mets would of raised their payroll with or without the Madoff scandal.
B) We don’t know if the Mets payroll stays the same will it be because of the Madoff scandal.
c) We don’t know if the Mets spending more money would of kept this team from going down the drain.
steveo
9/1/2009-10:50am at 10:50 am (UTC -4)
trs I agree to. Your point that upping payroll this year would have done nothing to help but not keeping it up next year is throwing up a big red flag that something is really wrong with ownerships finances.You see that’s when the big pockets of big teams thrive and eat there oponents and spend wisley on players when everyone else is hurting.The mets don’t have to outspend and overbid everyone but they have spend and spend wisley and we will see in the upcomming off season if they have been truly hurt by the madoff thing or if they are going to use the every other team in baseball is cutting payroll. Excuse to hide under.Again I really don’t see the phillys or braves cutting payroll in fact theirs is going up significantley dur to raises next year.
trs86
9/1/2009-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
Agreed, that’s my point. We don’t know if it has impacted us at all yet and there are no Mets officials saying that payroll will go down. Only lots of talking heads. To me at this point, even if the Wilpons have to borrow the money, he will spend at least the same just to get people to shutup.
JoeR
9/1/2009-11:12am at 11:12 am (UTC -4)
This year was lost no matter how you slice it imo. Yes I wanted Omar to pull the trigger on SOMETHING because I love the Mets and maybe facing reality, in a year that was suppose to be so promising, was too much to bear. We all debated how Omar needed to make one more deal, even if it was small, in order to get that Frenchy effect. A little boost and hope to hang on til the guys get back. Well they never got back lol so in the end I only have one issue with Omar and his moves or lack there of. Not trying to debate or annoy anyone but getting VMart imo made all the sense in the world! Added power, a catcher which I think its safe to say we need, provide some backup at first.
Besides that I cant knock Omar, this season was awful and giving away prospects to end the season 10 out instead of 20 would have been another mistake in a year filled with awful news! Lets Go Mets 2010 and beyond…maybe beyond is more like it lol
trs86
9/1/2009-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
I think Vmart made a lot of sense too. I just think the price was too high for one year of impact as it would not matter this year. I know you are saying they did not give up much, but the only thing we have to go on is published reports of what it would have taken the METS to get him. Maybe the Boston prospects were not quite as good as that it would have taken the Mets but maybe the Mets did not have anything worth having other than the names given.
JoeR
9/1/2009-11:33am at 11:33 am (UTC -4)
I agree…I mean we really never know what it takes but I just hope he was discussed. He would have helped and the main reason why I wanted him was because he would be here next year.
fongy2
9/1/2009-11:50am at 11:50 am (UTC -4)
We didnt have the prospects
to get him.
Whats so hard to understand
about that?
My heart and
passion for this team shrunk when
Freddy finally
was heard from
and stated Omar
and Jerry are
safe going into
next season.
I’m supposed to
then have hope
for 2010?
I simply don’t
believe the jive coming out
of the Wilpon’s
or Omar’s mouth
anymore.
How can this team be quickly
re-tooled for
next season?
Not much coming
through the system,a bunch
of guys coming
off injuries,
a few bad contracts which
likely can’t be moved,bad Mgrs&Coaches throughout the
system AND a bad GM combined
with ownership
which apparently is
happy with a full new stadium despite
the product…
=not much hope for 2010.
Am I wrong?
trs86
9/1/2009-11:53am at 11:53 am (UTC -4)
MAYBE?
trs86
9/1/2009-11:56am at 11:56 am (UTC -4)
Oh, and I think we for sure had the prospects to do it. Our top prospects are good enough to get anyone available. It’s just what then? They are all we got.
fongy2
9/1/2009-12:01pm at 12:01 pm (UTC -4)
Like who?
trs86
9/1/2009-12:19pm at 12:19 pm (UTC -4)
Players we are trading or players in return?
I think we could have had Halladay or Holliday or anyone else IF we would have given up 4 of our top 6 prospects. Problem is that other teams only would have had to give up 4 out of their top 15.
Mr North Jersey
9/1/2009-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
Fongy just out of curiosity why is this post you did like 3-4-5 words wide then new a row? Do you like your posts looking very vertical or is it something that you don’t even realize your doing?
fongy2
9/1/2009-12:00pm at 12:00 pm (UTC -4)
No,the box provided on the thread continues to shrink in width the more responses posted.
trs86
9/1/2009-12:04pm at 12:04 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, I thought it was your trademark. All along it’s that your screen resolution is 5×3. Anyway, I get the feeling that Fongy used to use a typewritter like me.
fongy2
9/1/2009-12:06pm at 12:06 pm (UTC -4)
My friends,not just typewriters
but rotary phones!
trs86
9/1/2009-12:09pm at 12:09 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, my little girl is 3. When she was 2 someone gave her one of those toy rotary phones that you pull around. She ask what it was and I told her a phone and she said no it’s not. Yes it is dear. How do you carry it? Well…. go play.
fongy2
9/1/2009-12:12pm at 12:12 pm (UTC -4)
My first job as an investigator was for an attorney
in bklyn in 1989, he gave me a beeper the size of
a paperback book.I hooked that monster to my belt and walked around like I’d just hit the lottery.
Damn I was proud of myself!
trs86
9/1/2009-12:17pm at 12:17 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, I remember my classmates in HS worshiping this kid who had a bag phone in his car. Man how doe it do that…
Mr North Jersey
9/1/2009-12:14pm at 12:14 pm (UTC -4)
So it’s safe to say I’ll see all you pessimists and optimists on Opening Day 2010. Brig your Hard Hat as we will be entering dangerous territory.
gipperpdx
9/1/2009-12:41pm at 12:41 pm (UTC -4)
Howard was great …until he mentions what a “great year” the Mets are having, with huge ticket sales, etc….man, how about some of that frustration and anger towards the “author” about the state of the team!
trs86
9/1/2009-12:45pm at 12:45 pm (UTC -4)
Good point, I think he was speaking directly from a financial standpoint.
Kingman 26
9/1/2009-1:41pm at 1:41 pm (UTC -4)
Great call Gip, and frankly, this is what should alarm us the most.
For years folks have suggested that the Wilpons are not like owners such as Steinbrenner, Cuban, etc, and are very happy to just be competitive, have a few stars, and make a ton of money.
This comment surely does not bode well for next year and for those of us who would like to actually win.
trs86
9/1/2009-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
I still don’t see it that way, I am sure I am bias. But I still saw it as financially we are doing very well. He was not on a baseball show he was on a buisness show. If he was on ESPN and he said we have had a great season I would jump through the TV. However, he was on Fox Business so I have to assume that …
gipperpdx
9/1/2009-5:28pm at 5:28 pm (UTC -4)
TRS is right – he *is* the VP of BIZ OPS and it is a business show, so from his perspective, it was a good year, especially considering the macroeconomic situation. Still, I’d like to hear and see a bit more frustration from the FO. Howard sowed it in defending Wilpon…let’s see it regarding the team, teh medical staff, etc.
trs86
9/1/2009-3:06pm at 3:06 pm (UTC -4)
So I was just over at the ole blog and read the Reyes post and comments. I now have a headache. Cerrone may have the comment section back up and running but with the new commenters on there he should have just left it closed. I am so thankful that most of the intelligent rational posters found there way to here. If I had to read that garbage on here this site would have lasted 3 days.
wannybackstra
9/1/2009-4:03pm at 4:03 pm (UTC -4)
Looks like the Rays did pretty well in the Kazmir deal, the final piece being Sean Rodriguez, a 24 year old 2B who is hitting .299 with 29 home runs and 93 RBIs at AAA this year.
Granted the PCL is more hitter friendly but those are nice numbers.
There’s got to be more than meets the eye with this kid, though. I think he had to clear waivers to be traded — he played a handful of games for the Angels so I am assuming he is on their 40 man. You’d think a guy like that would be claimed.
Anyway, this adds to the speculation that perhaps the Rays move Zobrist to 1B and trade Carlos Pena in the offseason.
wannybackstra
9/1/2009-4:11pm at 4:11 pm (UTC -4)
His minor league numbers are .282 .381 .502. Impressive. But he strikes out a ton, about 1 out of every 4 at bats.
He flopped in a 167 at bat cameo last year.
Could be the type of guy who needs a chance to play every day and will put up solid numbers, though with many Ks. Perhaps a .260 18-20 HR 20 SB second baseman?
Seems like he’s worth a try.
Why am I even concerned with this? Because right now the Mets have no prospects at the upper levels who are ready for a try-out and have any upside.
By the way, August was a good month for lower level Mets prospects, including babies like Aderlin Rodriguez, Cesar Puello and Jordany Valdespin. Brandon Moore might emerge as a pitching prospect, Zach Lutz continues to hit, Jeurys Familia keeps winning and Reese Havens has really started to put it together. If Havens stays healthy he could find himself on the fast track.
wannybackstra
9/1/2009-4:48pm at 4:48 pm (UTC -4)
Kirk Nieuwenhuis and infielder Zach Lutz have joined the B-Mets from St. Lucie
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/#ixzz0PtFLhvra
wannybackstra
9/1/2009-4:52pm at 4:52 pm (UTC -4)
Twins Acquire Jon Rauch For Kevin Mulvey
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [September 1, 2009 at 1:20pm CST]
TUESDAY: Arizona will receive pitcher Kevin Mulvey as the player to be named later in the Rauch trade, according to John Gambadoro of Sports 620 KTAR. Mulvey, of course, joined the Twins in February of last year as part of the Johan Santana trade. The 24 year-old righty has a 3.93 ERA with 113 strikeouts and 54 walks in 149 Triple A innings this year.