Check out Tim Dierkes post over at MlbTradeRumors Offseason Outlook: New York Mets.
Sep 18
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19 comments
trs86
9/18/2009-9:00am at 9:00 am (UTC -4)
What a great rational realistic look at next year. Can we hire him for the real Mets sources?
prismo
9/18/2009-9:08am at 9:08 am (UTC -4)
This was a great outlook. He came up with the same spending amount as trs, and had some great ideas for players to sign. I like the team Tim built.
trs86
9/18/2009-9:30am at 9:30 am (UTC -4)
Close I went low and said 28-32. They had a 150M payroll but that included some other junk. MLB 25 man was around 140-145.
CaseStreet
9/18/2009-9:42am at 9:42 am (UTC -4)
hey, didn’t I say $105M + arbitration in my Mets Salary post?
I get no respect
trs86
9/18/2009-9:49am at 9:49 am (UTC -4)
Nope. LOL.
But yeah we are all in agreement that they have plenty of money to spend if they choose to spend it.
CaseStreet
9/18/2009-9:48am at 9:48 am (UTC -4)
I really like Tim’s approach. Pretty much what’s been said here.
Johnson at 1B, solid starter like Wolf w/ a high risk – high reward guy like Bedard, high OBP LFer like Abreu, and a vet C like Zaun or Barajas.
Very nice, indeed.
trs86
9/18/2009-9:51am at 9:51 am (UTC -4)
Agreed, I think he has been reading.
trs86
9/18/2009-9:52am at 9:52 am (UTC -4)
One thing we have to bring into question is Cora. Is he worth 1.5-2M when his production can be replaced at league minimum. Are his intangibles worth 1-1.5M?
stickguy
9/18/2009-10:35am at 10:35 am (UTC -4)
probably not worth more than the million, That is not too uch above minimum wage.
If he wants more, he has to be manager too!
trs86
9/18/2009-10:41am at 10:41 am (UTC -4)
Agreed, how much more PRODUCTION does he give you than Wilson Valdez or Anderson Hernandez? They both play for less than .5.
Last year I loved the idea of Cora but we had more money then and I was worried more about Castillo.
metsfan4decades
9/18/2009-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
I’m still worried about Castillo. I say try and resign Cora for less money.
trs86
9/18/2009-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
I know Cora’s injury was a freak incident but how much more reliable is he? I would rather go with Ahern, Valdez, and even Tejeda unless those intangibles are true.
CaseStreet
9/18/2009-10:22am at 10:22 am (UTC -4)
Again, I really like Tim’s approach:
Spend $25M on Johnson and Abreu
Then remaining $10-15M on Wolf and one of Bedard, Penny, Unit,Pavano or Sheets for 1 yr
Add cheap Vet C like Zaun or Barajas
Castillo-Johnson-Reyes-Wright-Beltran-Abreu-Frenchy-C
stickguy
9/18/2009-10:34am at 10:34 am (UTC -4)
one problem with that approach is you could very easily lose al of them. Wolf, bedard, sheets and Johnson have injury issues this year (arms, backs, serious stuff) and I would be shocked if any came close to delivering a full season, or close to it.
Johnson is johnson, a good glove, OBP with some doubles guy (or, about what DW is this year, with a little less power), that you cross your fingers will give you a healthy season. An upgrqade, but worth th emoney?
Abreu still has OBP, but power and speed are slipping this year, and he is gettign ld. At least he has not previously been injury prone, but I expect him to be a singles hitter in CIti, so basiclaly slappy in the outfield with a few more doubles.
The cheap vet catcher I am OK with.
Hell, I like my idea from yesterday better.
trs86
9/18/2009-10:44am at 10:44 am (UTC -4)
I like the Abreu idea but spending 25M on them? How? LOL.
I am assuming you mean 15? Even then I don’t like it.
metsfan4decades
9/18/2009-10:46am at 10:46 am (UTC -4)
Pavano? Uh, no thanks…..
I’m kinda with Stickguy (above) on this one. I love MLBTR and Tim’s posts. He’s got some good points. I think though, I’d rather they save some money for other areas and see if they can sign Delgado on the cheap – rather than Johnson. They’ve got Murphy for the year if Delgado’s health becomes a problem.
stickguy
9/18/2009-10:58am at 10:58 am (UTC -4)
Double posting here, but it makes sense in this thread..
I switched positions and now vote for a 1 year, low base + incentives deal for Delgado. If, of course, he will accept it.
I wanted him gone last off season, but the situation was different. He was getting paid quite a bit for 2009, and theoretically, could have brought back something useful. Now, he would come cheap, and they get nothing if he leaves.
ANd at least he had the hip fixed. That was the ticking time bomb.
Like TRS said, if he isn’t too expensive, you cut bait and move on. Keeping Murphy as a super sub, and really, what have you lost?
Get a decent guy for LF (byrd is one name, no to damon, but there are other options, FA or trade). Or possibly go with a committee based on who earns it (pagan, Carter, etc. I still want Matt Murton brought in too). That will be cheap.
Then, load up the payroll on better pitching. If they think Lackey is for real, and will stay healthy, put the money there, then a 2nd SP that should be cheaper (one of the risk/reward guys). I actually think Myers is the best bet. Harden I like, but he could be too expensive, and too high risk.
Besides, Myers loves the pen, and would be happy to close again if K rod went down, and should be able to handle the putz role if needed.
Get the vet catcher if he will be better than Santos, since I think Thole is palying his way into a job, but I would rather see him paired with a vet to help him out.
castillo
reyes (yes, I want looie leading off if he is here)
wright
beltran
delgado
francouer
LF
C
santana
lackey
myers
pelfrey
maine/ollie/neise/neive/etc.
metsfan4decades
9/18/2009-11:20am at 11:20 am (UTC -4)
I like it, except Myers. Think I said it somewhere yesterday, but he just makes me nervous….The picture of inconsistency.
metsfan4decades
9/18/2009-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
Also, I have no problem with keeping Santos at this point.