According to many tweets, the Mets are meeting with Yorvit Torrealba’s agent today. David Lennon from Newday suggests that Molina may want too much $$/Years and Yorvit is a possibility. Yorvit still has a pending grievance with the Mets for what went down in 2007.
Dec 08
Mets meeting with Yorvit Torrealba’s agent today
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55 comments
fongy2
12/8/2009-2:38pm at 2:38 pm (UTC -4)
This Omar is a funny guy!
trs86
12/8/2009-2:43pm at 2:43 pm (UTC -4)
Fongy as long as it’s less than 2 million and for 1 year AND it keeps Molina away I will sign the contract for him.
oleosmirf
12/8/2009-2:39pm at 2:39 pm (UTC -4)
the obsession with catching is getting ridiculous. Sounds more like Omar blaming the catchers instead of addressing the real problem…the pitchers itself.
Omar is going to sit here and tell me Ollie, Pelfrey et all. sucked b/c of the catchers. I dont buy it…
How about addressing the whole rotation. I love what he did by getting Santana but you need more than just 2 quality starters on the staff…
trs86
12/8/2009-2:42pm at 2:42 pm (UTC -4)
OH NO OMAR HAS NOT SIGNED A PITCHER YET HE ONLY CARES ABOUT CATCHERS>>>>
Come on seriously guys settle down. Omar wants to improve the catching situation. It is moving quicker than the pitching market so thus more news comes out. What is the big deal?
oleosmirf
12/8/2009-2:46pm at 2:46 pm (UTC -4)
i dont trust Omar to make the necessary moves. Granted he’s not given a high enough budget but what he’s done the past few years is not working…
I am fully confident that Omar will bring in one star player this offseason. What I dont have confidence in his what he does after that…
wannybackstra
12/8/2009-3:00pm at 3:00 pm (UTC -4)
If Omar signs a pitcher and then Omir Santos bats .230 you’ll complain that he can’t multi-task and ignored the problem behind the plate.
I’m assure Omar is involved with the available pitchers.
Kingman 26
12/8/2009-3:33pm at 3:33 pm (UTC -4)
Oleo will whine and complain about the one loss if we go 161-1.
oleosmirf
12/8/2009-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
baseball is set up so bug payroll teams like the Mets, Red Sox, Angels, Dodgers etc. make the playoffs almost every year.
no reason why we shouldnt be a playoff team. This team is run terribly from the farm system on up and there isnt much sign of change…
Kingman 26
12/8/2009-3:53pm at 3:53 pm (UTC -4)
Well, this is not the NBA where half the teams make it….in 2006 we did, in 2007 and 2008 we missed out by one game the last day.
That’s not great, but it sure is not terrible either.
trs86
12/8/2009-4:00pm at 4:00 pm (UTC -4)
I agree that they should have made the playoffs in 2007 and 2008 last year with the injuries there was no hope.
However, can we at least see what moves actually happen this off-season before we panic and say that there is no hope?
oleosmirf
12/8/2009-3:34pm at 3:34 pm (UTC -4)
well i expect Omir to bat around .230 but thats not the point. Omar doesnt bring in the secondary players and the team has been too top heavy for years.
Beltran, Wright, Reyes, Santana, K-Rod is a great core but we need more guys like Francoeur. Not star players but they arent below average…
If he goes out and gets Holliday thats great but if his next best signings are Bengie Molina and Joel Piniero were still not a playoff team…
wannybackstra
12/8/2009-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
Doesn’t Holliday fit into the top heavy category while the other guys are the secondary type players that you say Omar ignores?
I don’t get what you’re saying at all. Seems contradictory.
oleosmirf
12/8/2009-3:44pm at 3:44 pm (UTC -4)
Joel Piniero is not any good and without Tony LaRussa and Dave Duncan he will not produce anything like what he did last year.
If Omar wants to pretend Marquis and Piniero are #2 starters or that Bengie Molina will all of a sudden fix Ollie, Pelfrey and Maine, Ill be here to call him out
trs86
12/8/2009-3:59pm at 3:59 pm (UTC -4)
And If he does not you will be here to call him out. LOL.
Just giving you a hard time.
wannybackstra
12/8/2009-3:59pm at 3:59 pm (UTC -4)
I’m sure he’ll duly note that.
But if your plan for addressing “secondary players” is signing Matt Holliday then I’d suggest you are rooting for the wrong team.
Only one team in MLB might consider Holliday a “secondary player.”
trs86
12/8/2009-4:01pm at 4:01 pm (UTC -4)
And even they would not. I am sure if money was NO object Holliday would be playing LF in NY and Granderson CF. Melky could become the 4th OF and protect a bad year from Swisher.
trs86
12/8/2009-3:58pm at 3:58 pm (UTC -4)
I am unclear too. Holliday fits the core the same as Pineiro would compare to Francouer. You know I like Frenchy but at best he is a suspect role player, which if we signed Pineiro that is what he would be as well? Right?
khmustache
12/8/2009-2:42pm at 2:42 pm (UTC -4)
the foundation of any winning team?
22 catchers
trs86
12/8/2009-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, it does seem like if we sign Torby it would be enough.
I don’t understand why they want to rid themselves of Santos that much but perhaps there is a reason be it defense or game calling who knows.
oleosmirf
12/8/2009-2:48pm at 2:48 pm (UTC -4)
well Santos does have one year wonder written all over him. Although I do think he did enough to be the backup…
khmustache
12/8/2009-2:49pm at 2:49 pm (UTC -4)
i think i remember reading last season that manuel didn’t like the way any of the catchers called games, plus isn’t santos somewhat of a career minor leaguer? i think torby would be a better option than molina, although either one is okay until thole develops. i’m just amused by the mets obsession with catchers these past 2 offseasons
DNDJohan aka kistics
12/8/2009-3:02pm at 3:02 pm (UTC -4)
I agree. Perhaps they see something that they don’t like in Santos. But he’s not a bad offensive catcher.
wannybackstra
12/8/2009-3:06pm at 3:06 pm (UTC -4)
He’s not a good one either.
As I posted the other day he ranked 11th out of 15 NL catchers in OPS with more than 300 plate appearances.
And… his numbers last year exceeded those achieved in his 10 year minor league career.
If I had to guess, we’ve seen the best of Omir, who had some really memorable moments on his way in and out.
DNDJohan aka kistics
12/8/2009-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
Good point.
oleosmirf
12/8/2009-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
while i agree 100% i do think he should be part of the 25 man roster. he played well enough to be at least the backup.
whataputz
12/8/2009-2:46pm at 2:46 pm (UTC -4)
It’s a good idea, lets sign 4 pitchers and trade one of the 4 major league caliber pitchers for a decent outfielder. Nice! O please trade for Kevin Millwood so I can purchase my world series tickets!
whataputz
12/8/2009-2:47pm at 2:47 pm (UTC -4)
4 catchers *
trs86
12/8/2009-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
Man you guys like to panic a lot based on 1,000′s of media reports you choose only the negative ones and then flat out panic.
So if Omar gets Holliday and Millwood you are going to panic? Not saying it’s what I want but who knows what is going on? You can’t go based on media reports who right now have about 1 week to make a name for themselves the rest off the off-season.
fongy2
12/8/2009-2:49pm at 2:49 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll tell ya, i can’t give Omar
a bad time over not getting Granderson. That was a heck of a bounty Detriot rec’d for him.
Theres no way we could have matched it. Oh, wait, hasn’t Omar been responsible for drafting and signing
players for our minor league system?
trs86
12/8/2009-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
True and we COULD have matched it in my opinion. But at what price? We have a very thin (but in my opinion underrated) farm system but also one that has traded like 12 players in the past few years for Santana and Putz.
stickguy
12/8/2009-2:52pm at 2:52 pm (UTC -4)
Yorby didn’t do all that much this year, but fine, talk to everyone.
Besides, many of these meetings are just like Boras’s mystery team. Gamesmansip to get the other side to blink.
No matter who the Mets talk to, I would bet if Molina’s agent called up and said we will take 1/6 with a team option, Omar inks the deal on the spot.
fongy2
12/8/2009-2:54pm at 2:54 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe Omar will one-up Boras
and sign a mystery Catcher?
khmustache
12/8/2009-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
that would be awesome! it’d be like lucha libre!
metsfan4decades
12/8/2009-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
Just a sampling on MLBTR from a Mets fan on the just done Yankee/Tigers/D’backs deal:
‘Oh yeah….Yankees may have all these all stars…but they don’t have the catching depth like the Mets do…HA! ugh.’
Here’s hoping Omar comes away from the winter meetings than just every available catcher out there. Otherwise, we’ll be reading these ‘wonderful’ comments for the next little while.
Sigh…..
stickguy
12/8/2009-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
save yourself the pain, and stay out of the comments section over there.
Even if it doesn’t aggrevate you, it almost has to make you dumber just for being there.
I think that’s where the People that aren’t qualified to comment at MC’s place go to spew their idiocy.
metsfan4decades
12/8/2009-3:09pm at 3:09 pm (UTC -4)
LOL!!
wannybackstra
12/8/2009-3:02pm at 3:02 pm (UTC -4)
Yorvit has never really been a full-time catcher. He generally plays 60-70 games a year. He’s only played more than 100 once. His #s last year were decent but not likely to have been maintained over the course of a whole season.
I don’t think you can get Torrealba and pair him with Blanco. Blanco doesn’t hit enough to be more than a traditional backup. Blanco is not an every other day type catcher.
DNDJohan aka kistics
12/8/2009-3:07pm at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe Omar will sign Molina on top of Torrealba.
Reyes
Castillo
Beltran
Wright
Frenchy
Molina
Torrealba
Blanco
wannybackstra
12/8/2009-3:12pm at 3:12 pm (UTC -4)
Which one is in LF?
DNDJohan aka kistics
12/8/2009-3:14pm at 3:14 pm (UTC -4)
Who’s faster out of Molina, Torrealba and Blanco?
wannybackstra
12/8/2009-3:18pm at 3:18 pm (UTC -4)
Tortoise, turtle or slug?
I’d have to guess based on size and age that Torrealba would be the one…
DNDJohan aka kistics
12/8/2009-3:18pm at 3:18 pm (UTC -4)
Torrealba and Blanco both have played 1 game in LF in their careers.
Torrealba played LF in ’03 and Blanco in ’99.
Torrealba has 7 SB in past 4 years. There’s our LF~!
DNDJohan aka kistics
12/8/2009-3:05pm at 3:05 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe Torrealba is C/1B.
dirtysanchez
12/8/2009-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
hahahah you know the mets will list him as that if they get him
GravediggerHebner
12/8/2009-3:11pm at 3:11 pm (UTC -4)
I am going to guess that we can all go ahead and do something else other than paying attention to the Mets for the balance of Dec. 8th.
There’s nothing that the Mets could do today that would wipe the Yankees Granderson deal from the back pages tomorrow. So unless Omar is making a move that he knows will be unpopular and therefore welcomes a lack of coverage of it, the Mets will wait ’til tomorrow to do anything noteworthy IMO.
fongy2
12/8/2009-3:23pm at 3:23 pm (UTC -4)
Great point Heb!
I really wanted Granderson and Jackson BUT judging from what Detriot got for the two,
theres nothing we could have
given up that would have been
even close.
Heck of a job by The Tigers,
The Yankees got a very good and very classy player and
The D’Backs?…Well, who knows
what the heck they’re doing?
Didn’t they make AJ Hinch they’re Mgr ’cause he knew and
was respected by the guys in their farm? The Tigers rebuilt
real fast with the three top/
blue chip MLB ready prospects
they picked-up and The Yankees
just improved greatly in CF
w/o giving up Joba or Hughes.
The D’backs get a few role players and this helps them
how exactly?…Strange.
wannybackstra
12/8/2009-3:33pm at 3:33 pm (UTC -4)
The best comparison I could make for the players the Tigers received for the two wouldn’t matchup because of major league readiness/injuries/general quality.
Scherzer > Mejia (pitched better than I thought at the MLB level last season. Meja a ways away and scouts wonder if he could even start)
Schlereth >> Parnell (Parnell is probably the Mets best and most advanced relief prospect and there is no comparison based on talent and pedigree)
Jackson > F-Mart (health primarily the reason. Jackson’s skills might be very similar to Granderson’s)
Coke > Misch (who the hell else do the Mets have to slot into this spot?)
It would not surprise me if Scherzer is better than Jackson immediately. Here’s a kid that as a rookie struck out more than 9 per inning with a 2.76 BB/K ratio. He’s a big time young arm. I’m really confused as to what AZ was doing here.
And it wouldn’t surprise me if Schlereth is Detroit’s closer by 2011.
trs86
12/8/2009-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
True but the 3 way would not have been dead. In order for us to get both I guess it would have.
wannybackstra
12/8/2009-3:41pm at 3:41 pm (UTC -4)
Yes. I was just responding to Fongy who said he wanted both Detroit guys.
Obviously, the Mets couldn’t make that happen.
I’m really shocked by what AZ gave up for Jackson.
trs86
12/8/2009-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed.
metsfan4decades
12/8/2009-3:12pm at 3:12 pm (UTC -4)
Per MCs blog:
‘Mets SS Jose Reyes will spend one hour, in studio, with Mike Francesa on WFAN next Wednesday.
According to Francesa, Reyes requested the opportunity to sit down, talk, and bring fans up to speed with where he is in his recovery from surgery, as he prepares for 2010.’
***********
He’s Alive!
I really started to think Jose was MIA.
Kingman 26
12/8/2009-3:35pm at 3:35 pm (UTC -4)
If we do not sign Molina, and if any Met fan ever listens to–or reports–another word or tweet from Heyman, they should be banished from the planet.
dirtysanchez
12/8/2009-3:38pm at 3:38 pm (UTC -4)
whats wrong with heyman..hes usually on point
DNDJohan aka kistics
12/8/2009-3:39pm at 3:39 pm (UTC -4)
little too harsh no? maybe banished from the country or something like that…
Kingman 26
12/8/2009-3:46pm at 3:46 pm (UTC -4)
OK, that works.
It was a joke Dirty, and I do not think he is usually on point.