So Roy Halladay ends up a Phillie and  Lackey will pitch between Beckett and Lester. The Mets? Well they are the kids stuck in the snow looking in at the toys in the window.Â
But lets just wait a second and examine what really happened yesterday and figure out why Met fans are angry. The Phillies simply swapped aces. Lee was not interested in signing a long extension forcing the Phillies to deal him and grab an ace that will. So in essence, the Phillies are 5-6 games better with Halladay than without him. Y’know, I never counted on Halladay becoming a Met, I always thought that Lackey was the one to end up pitching in Flushing. So I’m more upset about the Lackey signing than anything. I have no problem being outbid by the Red Sox, I have a major problem with the lack of the Mets involvement- which now seems to be none. That’s what gets me angry. Were they asleep at the switch? Did they not see this coming? I can’t wait to see this spin in the local newspaper.
I felt that this team was a #2 starter and a right fielder away from pulling even with the Phillies. As I previously wrote, as long as the big three were still available, I wouldn’t panic. Well, two are gone and one of them went to the worst team I could think of. I’m not in a panic, I’m quite numb.
The result of yesterday will result in the Mets forcing to get either Bay or Holliday. Their #2 starter? Your guess is as good as mine.Â
The bottom line is that I just feel a little foolish thinking that this team was going to do the right thing by the fans and the organization.Â
The Fan Base is hurting and the season ticket money is due.
Let’s put it this way, if you go to Citi Field, you will have a lot of stretching room because I’m sure the seat next to you won’t be occupied, unless it’s by a rival Yankee or Phillie fan.
This is what the Wilpons want and boy are they going to get it. It really is their decision not to pursue any big money free agent so now they will stare at a really nice empty stadium.Â
The conclusion is this, I will root for the Mets because they are my team. However, I feel like I’ve been lied to. The meeting Jeff and Omar had with Mike Francesa of WFAN was a big joke.  While they were telling their fans they would improve the team, they were kicking themselves under the table and surpressing a laugh like a bunch of eighth graders.   I still think there is hope and I’m trying to stay positive about the 2010 season but it may be that I’m in the minority.
It seems that the disappointing 2009 season doesn’t want to end.   I’m trying to turn the page, the Mets won’t let me.
72 comments
prismo
12/15/2009-7:09am at 7:09 am (UTC -4)
I think Halladay is only 2-3 extra wins for the Phils. With their lineup an ace giving up 2.8 runs per 9 innings vs a guy giving up 3.3 runs an inning isn’t a big deal. They’re almost always going to score at least 4 runs a game anyway.
That doesn’t change your message though. I’m frustrated as well, and I think at best we’ll be a wild-card contender in 2010. My biggest fear is that the team won’t make the playoffs, Omar will be fired (that’s a good thing), but due to not much salary coming off the books, the new GM won’t be able to really improve the team for the 2011 season. 2012 here we come? I would typically get ticked off if someone made that crazy prediction 2 years into the future, but it seems fairly feasible.
prismo
12/15/2009-7:23am at 7:23 am (UTC -4)
I also have to say, if the final outcome of this trade is:
Phillies get: Halladay, 2-3 prospects from Mariners, $6MM from Jays
Mariners get: Lee
Jays get: 3 prospects
It certainly looks to me like the Blue Jays are the losers. They trade one of, if not THE, best pitcher in baseball for three prospects and still have to PAY $6MM to one of the teams involved? Talk about getting kicked in the balls for not trading him at the deadline last season.
trs86
12/15/2009-7:45am at 7:45 am (UTC -4)
Really depends on who those 3 prospects are.
trs86
12/15/2009-7:46am at 7:46 am (UTC -4)
Kyle Drabek, Michael Taylor and Travis D’Arnaud are no slouches.
prismo
12/15/2009-7:51am at 7:51 am (UTC -4)
They’re not, they’re top 10 prospects in the Phillies organization. (Maybe all top 5 after the Phils traded a bunch of their top 10 guys for Lee) But those three plus paying 6 mil makes it seems like the Jays are getting fleeced.
trs86
12/15/2009-7:55am at 7:55 am (UTC -4)
I don’t think the Jays cared about the money. They wanted top prospects. Most likely that 6 million got them Taylor instead of a lesser prospect.
What is interesting is for the Phillies. They get Halladay, cash and a prospect or two.
prismo
12/15/2009-7:58am at 7:58 am (UTC -4)
It’s a steal for the Phillies if they end up getting two prospects and cash, which it looks like they might.
trs86
12/15/2009-8:01am at 8:01 am (UTC -4)
I would not say a steal because they still have to pay Halladay at least 75 million for 3 years. However, it really depends on if Taylor is THE real thing or not. I think they could have held out for Happ instead of Drabek but I have heard good and bad things about Drabek as well.
What will be interesting is how they handle guys like Jason Werth next off-season. It does appear that they are setup to be a WS contender again.
prismo
12/15/2009-8:07am at 8:07 am (UTC -4)
*75 mil for 4 years, and if you take the 6 million out of that, it’s 69mil for 4 years.
Makes more sense for them to keep Happ, doesn’t it? They need him as a starter this season.
trs86
12/15/2009-8:11am at 8:11 am (UTC -4)
For the Phillie for sure. I meant that the Jays could have held out for Happ. LOL.
True that they get that 6 million. I will still wait until I see the final prospects and numbers. Lot of changing parts right now.
trs86
12/15/2009-7:45am at 7:45 am (UTC -4)
“The conclusion is this, I will root for the Mets because they are my team. However, I feel like I’ve been lied to. The meeting Jeff and Omar had with Mike Francesa of WFAN was a big joke.”
I should have expected it to be this way today. But let me try and figure this out. Because the Phillies traded for Halladay and the Redsox gave in to Lackey the Mets FO lied and will not improve this team? It’s DECEMBER. Settle down. Did you expect the Mets to get Halladay? Did you expect the Mets to go 6/100+ to out bid the Sox for Lackey? There was a report last week that identified that the Mets bid on Lackey. Most likely a similar offer to the Redsox. I am sure Lackey’s agent came back to the Mets and told them what it would take and the Mets balked because they were concerned over the years or the impact on other positions.
If this ends up being the team we go to war with of course I will be upset. But this is like watching a preseason game and booing your team.
darknova306
12/15/2009-8:03am at 8:03 am (UTC -4)
“The result of yesterday will result in the Mets forcing to get either Bay or Holliday”
If we get Holliday it will mean we’ve gone beyond the offer the Cardinals (reportedly) made to him. I’d much rather have Bay for 4 years than Holliday for 8.
Anyway, being a contender means nothing to me until they prove they can WIN meaningful games in September.
trs86
12/15/2009-8:10am at 8:10 am (UTC -4)
I agree with your last sentence that we have to go the extra step and it will haunt us until we do.
Back to your previous point. It will most likely take 5/75 for Bay in the longrun and 8/132 for Holliday. Which one do you want? Either? Neither?
At that point I seriously check to see what it would take to get Agonz or Crawford.
prismo
12/15/2009-8:12am at 8:12 am (UTC -4)
*NONSTOP CURSING*
darknova306
12/15/2009-8:29am at 8:29 am (UTC -4)
I agree it’ll likely take 5/75 to get Bay, which is too much in my eyes, thus saying I want him for 4 (if Omar can get him for 4, you’ll actually see me say something positive about him for once
). No way do I want to dole out a mega contract to Holliday. He’s a very good player, but not 8/120-140 good.
I was actually pulling for Cameron, but I guess that ship has sailed at this point.
I would definitely at least make some inquiries about Agonz and Crawford. At this point LF is more a serious need in my eyes, especially given how big a void it’s been over the past several years.
trs86
12/15/2009-8:33am at 8:33 am (UTC -4)
I know I am crazy but I am still torn on who would produce more next year. Murphy or Pagan.
darknova306
12/15/2009-8:43am at 8:43 am (UTC -4)
I think we all need to remember that Murphy only played 95 games at AA and 1 at AAA. The definition of rushing a prospect would be…? :p
I’m hopeful that the 38 doubles and 12 HRs can be at least a norm for him while getting his OBP back to what it was in his callup a couple years ago.
I’d rather not rely on Pagan everyday, especially considering his propensity for hurting himself (no more Alou, please).
Still, I agree that we have no clue what to realistically expect from them.
trs86
12/15/2009-8:48am at 8:48 am (UTC -4)
That is why in my opinion I kind of agree with Jerry. With the right 1B then Pagan can fit in the lineup. With the right LF Murphy can fit in the lineup.
darknova306
12/15/2009-9:03am at 9:03 am (UTC -4)
I’m down with that, but I want some serious pitching upgrades.
trs86
12/15/2009-8:08am at 8:08 am (UTC -4)
Example of a plan to get back to competitive. Will it be enough to win the division? I don’t know. Depends on who has a good year and who is healthy and unhealthy.
Trade for Duke
Sign Garland/Marquis (whoever is the cheapest)
Sign Molina (because it’s going to happen anyway)
Sign Bay
Sign Garko
Sign Lopez
Rotation: Johan, Duke, Pelfrey, Garland/Marquis, Perez/Maine
Lineup:
Reyes, Castillo/Lopez, Beltran, Bay, Wright, Frenchy, Murphy/Garko, Molina
Becnh:
Blanco, Cora, Lopez, Garko, Pagan
Again, not flashy but for sure doable.
CaseStreet
12/15/2009-8:29am at 8:29 am (UTC -4)
Lackey and Cameron were the kicker.
We won’t be able to trade for a #2 and now we’ll have to overspend to get bay or holliday when hitting won’t solve anything it we’ll pay someone else like we did Ollie
trs86
12/15/2009-8:32am at 8:32 am (UTC -4)
Why would we NOT be able to trade for a #2? Is the off-season over?
CaseStreet
12/15/2009-9:02am at 9:02 am (UTC -4)
What team is going to trade a real #2 not a Nats 2? And it’ll cost the few prospects we have. Omar did talk about keepng prospects to build the farm. When it wouldve just coat money for lackey.
At least you won’t have to worry about overpaying for lackey or argue bay vs. Cameron. Or trading away a player without having to take on a bad contract. The red sox certainly get it.
trs86
12/15/2009-9:09am at 9:09 am (UTC -4)
How MUCH money for Lackey? How MANY years for Lackey? Did he even want to pitch in the NL? For the Mets?
Would you have been ok with 6/100+ for Lackey? The Redsox certainly get it because they are better than the Mets right now and they don’t have as many holes to start with.
CaseStreet
12/15/2009-11:07am at 11:07 am (UTC -4)
The red sox get it because they had the right plan.
oleosmirf
12/15/2009-8:40am at 8:40 am (UTC -4)
i mean the postseason is prob not going to happen anyway but now its official that Bay will be coming here. Granted it might be on a 75 year deal but you can pencil him down…
Hopefully Omar doesnt get desperate and ruin this team anymore than he already has…
trs86
12/15/2009-8:41am at 8:41 am (UTC -4)
Why are we saying in December that the postseason is not going to happen? Before the team is even put together? Are we the damn Pirates? Settle down guys.
oleosmirf
12/15/2009-8:53am at 8:53 am (UTC -4)
the Phillies are astronomically better (even before the offseason started) so that only leaves the wildcard.
Sure we could wind up making the playoffs but its an uphill climb. While we will get a formidable lineup the rotation is still really bad and while some of you think Pelfrey, Maine and Ollie will rebound, i think its extremely unreasonable to think all 3 can pitch well at the same time…
not to mention our bullpen is not great either…
trs86
12/15/2009-8:57am at 8:57 am (UTC -4)
“i mean the postseason is prob not going to happen”
You did not say division.
Besides, while I agree the Phillies are in much better shape right now the off-season is not finished. AND the Mets should be a team that knows what being good on paper means.
But hey if you want to be negative about the team in December and jump off a cliff go right ahead. I won’t stop you. The only problem is that you won’t fall far enough to actually hurt yourself because there are too many people that have jumped off in front of you. So have fun wallowing.
darknova306
12/15/2009-9:00am at 9:00 am (UTC -4)
Relax. We’ve got holes, but we’ve got time. I’m frustrated, too, but our team WILL look different in 2010. Whether that different look is one that inspires hope is yet to be seen, but there will be changes.
trs86
12/15/2009-9:07am at 9:07 am (UTC -4)
Right, it’s really a no lose situation for a guy like Oleo.
If Omar does his job he will again field a competitive team and we will have an exciting 2010.
If Omar does not do his job he will be fired along with Jerry and Oleo and others will rejoice.
oleosmirf
12/15/2009-9:10am at 9:10 am (UTC -4)
now why would I be upset if we make the playoffs in 2010????
be intelligent
trs86
12/15/2009-9:14am at 9:14 am (UTC -4)
?
“Right, it’s really a no lose situation for a guy like Oleo.
If Omar does his job he will again field a competitive team and we will have an exciting 2010.”
Did you misread something?
I said it’s a no LOSE situation for you. Either we are competitive or Omar gets fired. You win either way.
I am the one that needs to be intelligent? You are the one panicking because the Mets have not made a move in December.
Kingman 26
12/15/2009-8:51am at 8:51 am (UTC -4)
I will agree that things sure as hell sound like a bunch of 8th graders.
A bunch of whiny, spoiled, 8th graders who cannot read a calendar.
Maybe the Mets NEVER wanted Lackey at the price and years a guy with arm problems demanded….hmmmmm….
Blab away today, I had enough yesterday.
What an embarrassing spectacle some Met “fans” are.
Some of you need a new hobby.
Go read Costa this morning at the Star Ledger–a writer who actually covers the Mets, has access and might have a clue as to what is REALLY going on.
Go read it and get a frigin grip.
And have a nice day!!
trs86
12/15/2009-8:54am at 8:54 am (UTC -4)
LOL, Kingman you can’t leave. I need your help. I think overall the reaction on this blog was much better than others. I give them yesterday and expect much cooler heads to prevail today. Costa’s article was very good. I posted some of it in the Duke article. Feel free to do a write up on that if you would like.
Kingman 26
12/15/2009-9:00am at 9:00 am (UTC -4)
TRS, I confess I have a lot more trouble than you and Stickguy and Grave and some others when it comes to dealing with the Nabobs of Negativity.
I just don’t get it.
Who ever said the team even WANTED Lackey?
And if trading Reyes had to be done to get ROY, I would NEVER have even considered that. Yes, I would have traded Pelf, but who knows which of these speculations is accurate.
I will do a quick writeup on the Costa piece, that is a good idea, and I will try my hardest to leave the venom out!
Thanks Chief!
trs86
12/15/2009-9:01am at 9:01 am (UTC -4)
Hey no prob. As for if we WANTED Lackey. I think we did as evident by the articles about the Mets offering him a contract. However, just like Bay and Holliday we want them at our price and are not going to overpay for a mediocre FA crop.
oleosmirf
12/15/2009-8:57am at 8:57 am (UTC -4)
the thing is though I got no faith that the “plan” Omar has will work…
trs86
12/15/2009-9:03am at 9:03 am (UTC -4)
Of course you do not. I for one see an average GM that besides a injury filled 2009 has fielded a competitive team for 3/4 years. I have faith that he will do just that again.
oleosmirf
12/15/2009-9:17am at 9:17 am (UTC -4)
with the payroll he is given, we should be more than just competitive. With no salary cap, we should be just as successful as the Red Sox, Phillies, Angels, Dodgers. Yankees are in their own league…
So why is that those 4 teams can consistently make the playoffs, yet we can’t.
Why is it that we made the playoffs only twice this decade, yet our payroll is still top 5 in the MLB???
Something clearly isnt working. The Yankees just bought themselbes a WS so its not the spending.
Its the lack of quality starting pitching and the lack of a deep farm system…
trs86
12/15/2009-9:31am at 9:31 am (UTC -4)
You can’t compare the Yankees spending with the Mets spending. That’s silly.
That lack of a deep farm system was caused because Omar tried to rush us to the top too quickly and signed Type A FA while trading away a lot of depth for the players to make us competitive. The Mets were a mess when he got here and he took steps that he had to to rush us back to the top. Now we may be paying for that a little. All in all we got good too quickly and in NY they are not going to take a slow approach. Now back to your point. The Phillies have been doing this for 3 years and obviously in 2007 we should have been there but crap happen. In 2008 and 2009 they were just better than us. The Dodgers? They finished 4th in 2007, 2nd in 2006, 4th in 2005. So their recent run has much more to do with the fact that the West stinks. The Angels also play in a terrible division but are the model the Mets should be following. The Redsox have built a dynasty but they also only won their division once since 1996.
So yes we should be competitive but as a Mets fan that is all I EXPECT. I hope we make the playoffs and hope we win the WS.
prismo
12/15/2009-9:08am at 9:08 am (UTC -4)
How can you get so angry at people who are frustrated? Sure, logically the team has some more time to build a contender, and they’ll try to do just that. But also look at it this way – this team hasn’t made the playoffs in 3 years. And now the fans have to watch some of the other high-profile teams greatly improve their rosters while Omar is yet to make a significant move. I understand that you’re trying to take a more logical and relaxed approach to the situation, but if you can’t see why others are more frustrated, I’m not sure what to say…
trs86
12/15/2009-9:11am at 9:11 am (UTC -4)
Is it a Mets fan’s right all of a sudden to make the playoffs each year? Do I want to? Sure. Do I expect it? No. It is not some god given right that I get to see the Mets be in the playoffs each year. If the Phillies are better than us right now, so be it. They will have their turn and it will not be eternal. However, I see no reason that Omar will not field a competitive team as his job depends on it. So if the Phillies really are gods gift to baseball right now and are unstoppable there is always the Wildcard.
Of course we are frustrated but what is the point of whining in December?
prismo
12/15/2009-9:15am at 9:15 am (UTC -4)
I said frustrated, not whining. Don’t put sh** in my mouth!!
What’s happened so far and the potential lack of a big offseason may not even be Omar’s fault this year. Lackey wanted to be on the Red Sox, they were never going to be able to get Halladay, and the Cards may have offered 8 years to Holliday – which is wayyy too much for the Mets to offer.
trs86
12/15/2009-9:20am at 9:20 am (UTC -4)
I am not referring to you when I say whining Prismo. You are not the one saying that next year is doomed.
Kingman 26
12/15/2009-9:16am at 9:16 am (UTC -4)
I am not angry at frustration—I have been watching this team since I was a little kid in 1973—do you think I am not frustrated?
I get frustrated at idiocy.
Someone commented last night that the offer to Bay was a “lowball” offer—that is beyond moronic.
Maybe, in retrospect, not giving Lackey and his arm troubles a deal like this will turn out to be smart.
And I will be happy with a haul of Bay/Holliday, Molina, and a starter or two from the remaining possibilities. When this is all exhausted and we are left with Corey Hart or Jack Cust in LF and only Pineiro to add to the rotation, then it will be time for incessant crying and moaning.
It just isn’t over yet.
prismo
12/15/2009-9:17am at 9:17 am (UTC -4)
Fair enough.
trs86
12/15/2009-9:19am at 9:19 am (UTC -4)
Agreed, I remember how many people gripped about how we should have outbid the Braves for Lowe and look where the Braves are with Lowe now. Granted that did not mean Omar should have went back to Perez. I do still give him a slight pass on that as many of the experts even agreed that was Omar’s only choice.
prismo
12/15/2009-9:21am at 9:21 am (UTC -4)
I think a fair number of us knew that the Braves way way way overpaid for Lowe. That doesn’t excuse Omar for subsequently overpaying for Ollie. Two wrongs don’t make a right!
trs86
12/15/2009-9:23am at 9:23 am (UTC -4)
That is what I said then too. But you were around enough to know that most of the experts said that because of that Omar had to sign the next best pitcher. That next best happen to be Ollie the young 27 year old LHP who had an off year.
metsfan4decades
12/15/2009-9:10am at 9:10 am (UTC -4)
Do you have a link for that Star Ledger post? I can’t seem to find it…
I need a sanity check this morning.
prismo
12/15/2009-9:11am at 9:11 am (UTC -4)
This one, I assume:
http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2009/12/why_mondays_deals_might_not_be.html
trs86
12/15/2009-9:12am at 9:12 am (UTC -4)
http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2009/12/why_mondays_deals_might_not_be.html
prismo
12/15/2009-9:16am at 9:16 am (UTC -4)
Too slow! hehe
trs86
12/15/2009-9:20am at 9:20 am (UTC -4)
LOL.
metsfan4decades
12/15/2009-9:22am at 9:22 am (UTC -4)
Thanks, guys!
darknova306
12/15/2009-9:14am at 9:14 am (UTC -4)
You almost sound like you take negativity personally. Relax. Lots of sports fans are very emotional. Especially in passionate markets like NY and Boston. There’s always going to be knee-jerk reactions to every move in these markets. If it bothers you so much, you really shouldn’t read it all.
Kingman 26
12/15/2009-9:16am at 9:16 am (UTC -4)
I don’t take negativity personally, I just cannot stand idiotic, childish whining.
trs86
12/15/2009-9:22am at 9:22 am (UTC -4)
I think being a writer on a blog sometimes takes it’s toll on you. We are forced to go out and read other blogs and even their comment sections and in turn we here a lot of unintelligent fans say stuff like “I don’t care Omar sucks because we should have gotten Halladay not the Phillies”. Like that was even possible.
darknova306
12/15/2009-9:24am at 9:24 am (UTC -4)
Fair point.
dirtysanchez
12/15/2009-9:26am at 9:26 am (UTC -4)
perhaps…i have not read all the comments in our posts but the few that i have read were not that negative as compared to other blogs comment section. Besides this is a blog and it is for expression…good,bad or indifferent. Who are we to dictate how people should react when a rival gets the best pitcher in baseball after their favorite team finished with a record similar to 2003.
trs86
12/15/2009-9:36am at 9:36 am (UTC -4)
True, but again I think Kingman had ventured out beyond TRDM haven.
But still I think most rational fans would agree that even Halladay can’t pitch much better than this: 7-4 3.39 ERA 1.13 WHIP and almost 7 innings per start. Not to mention this: 4-0 1.56 ERA 40 innings 8 innings per start, and a WHIP of 0.818. If Halladay pitches better than those playoff numbers then they should rename the CY-Young.
dirtysanchez
12/15/2009-9:49am at 9:49 am (UTC -4)
The way i look at it honestly…we didnt hit cliff lee when he was with the phills, we are not going to hit roy halladay…same result, different face lol.
dirtysanchez
12/15/2009-9:23am at 9:23 am (UTC -4)
loll..someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning
Like so many people have already said, fans are going to react to major blockbuster moves like this at the time. The devil is in the details though. I understand the negativity considering the last few years for the Mets and an opportunity to improve this year. I guess alot of people wanted the usual Omar splash to happen and it didnt, he is taking another approach and that caught people by surprise.
Kingman 26
12/15/2009-9:28am at 9:28 am (UTC -4)
Not at all Dirty, not at all.
Sometimes my seemingly angry demeanor maybe suggests that I am a lot angrier than I really am.
As you have known me for a while now on the internet, I am always a second away from laughing and am a really positive guy.
For whatever reason though, I have a personality flaw where aggressive ignorance really gets to me, and it is the folks who called our offer to Bay a non-offer, or even worse, a “lowball” offer, that really gets me going.
But, I am back to normal (for me), and have a busy day, so I will do my daily Jose-style dugout dance, sit down, and get to work!
dirtysanchez
12/15/2009-9:33am at 9:33 am (UTC -4)
Hey! no dancing…its showing us up!
Kingman 26
12/15/2009-9:37am at 9:37 am (UTC -4)
Don’t worry, my bro and I don’t allow any Phillies or Marlins in the office, so we are good…
trs86
12/15/2009-9:37am at 9:37 am (UTC -4)
The usual Omar splash can still and most likely will still happen. It did not have to be Lackey or Halladay.
dirtysanchez
12/15/2009-9:46am at 9:46 am (UTC -4)
Idk if signing bay or holiday would be considered a “splash” anymore since its almost a given that we need to sign one of the two at this point. I hope he has a trade in the works or something…he is usually good with these things but it sucks for us fans because he is also good with keeping those things close to chest lol. He is in just a tough spot because he wants to improve our farm system but at the same time field a competitive product…hard balance to do imo
trs86
12/15/2009-11:17am at 11:17 am (UTC -4)
So again because the Sox signed Lackey Omar can no longer make a splash but signing Lackey would have been a splash? I am not following.
stickguy
12/15/2009-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
the FO said at the beginning of the hot stove (I still hate saying Omar, sorry if that is petty) that the FA class was weak, and that they anticipated being more active on the trade front.
Well, for the most part, the trade front has been quiet. And yes, I know that Halladay got moved, but that was never likely a viable option to the mets, and you knew it was going to happen. ALthough I was surprised to see Lee get moved out.
So, what were the other big deals? The Tigers punting some salary, and moving a 26 YO SP that had 1/2 of a good season (sound like Pelf?), and Granderson (an interesting guy, but not quite what his reputation is)?
There must still be a bunch of guys available, since a lot of the reported salary issue teams still haven’t taken care of the problem (Cubs, Reds, Royals maybe, and I am sure there are others).
Even the non-tneder and small deals rumored are likely to make the team much better. Capps could be a huge upgrade to the set-up ranks. Even Bay, for all the crap he has been getting, would be a solid upgrade in LF.
Don’t get me started on Molina. 1 year OK, 2 is a stretch and 3 is lunacy.
But after taht, i still thik Omar has some moves up his sleeves. At least 1 big trade that no one saw coming, and I haven’t given up hope on them moving Luis for a better overall 2B.
Remember “trading places� Well, it’s almost time for Omar to start saying “buy, buy†before the crop report comes out!
Kingman 26
12/15/2009-11:14am at 11:14 am (UTC -4)
Hmmmmm, a reasonable, well thought-out, and accurate summary of things.
I am sure Winthorp and Valentine are egging Omar on to begin buying frozen concentrated orange juice as we speak…