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According to MLBTR it looks like Jason Marquis will sign with the Nats.
12/21/2009-2:48pm at 2:48 pm (UTC -4)
I’m surprised this guy didn’t wait a little longer before signing with the Nats. Must have been no real interest and he took the money while it was hot.
12/21/2009-2:49pm at 2:49 pm (UTC -4)
yep…gotta wonder if the whole “i wanna play for the mets” thing was a ploy for him to get more mula…
Rob Neyer from ESPN is the latest to bring up the ultimatum. He does bring up a good point that the Mets have already sent high contract offers and there is no need to increase them:
Ah, there’s nothing more heartening than free agents who get offered more money than they deserve, and spend a few weeks dithering anyway. Case in point, from the New York Post:
Radio silence from Jason Bay and Bengie Molina continued for the Mets over the weekend, leading some within the club to wonder if either player is truly interested in coming to Queens.
The Mets remained at a negotiating standstill with Bay and Molina after offering both free agents contracts on the final day of the Winter Meetings almost two weeks ago.
Mets GM Omar Minaya has indicated a willingness to wait on both players, telling The Post late last week, “It is a long offseason.”
But a team source said yesterday that Minaya might soon consider other options in left field and at catcher if Bay and Molina continue to leave the Mets dangling despite appearing to have no serious offers anywhere close to what Minaya has tendered.
The holdup in both cases continues to be an extra year — the 31-year-old Bay wants a fifth year added to the Mets’ four-year, roughly $65 million offer, while the 35-year-old Molina wants a guaranteed third year tacked on to Minaya’s two-year, roughly $12 million proposal.
Here’s a clue that you might have offered a free agent too much money … He doesn’t have any serious offers close to what you offered. It’s probably considered poor form to summarily rescind an offer. Not to mention poor public relations. But the best thing Omar Minaya could do now is tell Bay’s and Molina’s agents that they’ve got until sundown to make a decision. Because the best outcome is that they decline. The second-best outcome is that they accept now, so Minaya can get on with things. And everything else falls under the heading of “worst outcomes.”
12/21/2009-3:24pm at 3:24 pm (UTC -4)
Sweet, sorry trs
12/21/2009-3:25pm at 3:25 pm (UTC -4)
This means two things: the Nats will make the playoffs, and they will leave Marquis off their post season roster.
12/21/2009-3:28pm at 3:28 pm (UTC -4)
LOL. I think Hudson would be next to sign with the Nats.
I’m all for Arroyo
12/21/2009-3:31pm at 3:31 pm (UTC -4)
Just to throw this out there, Marquis vs the Mets in 2009:
0-2, 5.73 ERA, 1.727 WHIP (NYM batting line: 390/435/488)
Yeah, put the Natinals’ defense behind him and he’ll be a real winner in my book.
12/21/2009-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
I am not going to shed a tear because the Mets did not sign Marquis but I continue to have to wonder if the Mets truly have what many believe is a plan that they intend to follow this off season and if in such plan, do they have in it the need to acquire a starter?
If they plan on getting a starter would they not have also made a list of the starters they plan (and I use the term loosely) to intend to go after?
If such list exists then which starters are at the top of this list and in what order?
Was Lackey, Halladay, Wolf, Penny, Harden, and Marquis on such list?
Is Arroyo or Chapman on that list?
Who is this pitcher that Minaya intends to get that will improve our staff?
I’m just thinking out loud because that is all one can do at this point.
*not Mets related but music related*
Would you guys recommend an Epiphone Les Paul Special II? I’d like to learn to play and it seems to get good reviews.
12/21/2009-3:46pm at 3:46 pm (UTC -4)
12/21/2009-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
I was alwasy partial to Strats. For learning purposes, if the price is right on the Epiphone, go with it, but I was never partial to how the epiphones sounded.
Also, all depends on the benjamins you are looking to dole out.
12/21/2009-4:32pm at 4:32 pm (UTC -4)
thanks tx, I’ve also read good things about the Squier Strat.
12/21/2009-4:40pm at 4:40 pm (UTC -4)
Haven’t played in a good ten years but been wanting to get back to it. When I played I wasn’t too particular to Epiphone’s, I just didn’t like the feel. I had a Ibanez and loved it. Now I have my wife’s Yamaha acoustic collecting dust which is really nice to play.
I wouldn’t get hung up on reviews so much and just try a bunch out. Even if you are just learning just pick it up and mess around with it. What is comfortable to you? Especially for learning look for something that you don’t have to apply too much finger pressure and that doesn’t sound like it’s rattling because the strings are positioned too close to the finger board.
12/22/2009-10:29am at 10:29 am (UTC -4)
Why would Bay want to come to Queens for a discounted rate? Is the stadium so fantastic for HR hitters? Do the Wilpons look to make this team competitive (given that they are in the biggest market in MLB)? Is the roster composed of players who Bay would love to join? Has any Met player gone out of their way to talk Bay into coming to Citifield? Does Bay want to play for a team with a manager and a GM whose jobs are on the line and are probably not going to be there in 2011?
So what is it that makes the Mets so attractive? The answer is easy. So why doesn’t JW tell Omar to go out and get PITCHING (no matter what it costs)? Because JW thinks he knows baseball and the fanbase. The Jackie Robinson rotunda (although an honorable idea) is a good example of why JW does not know baseball nor the likes of the fanbase (e.g., why not a Gil Hodges “Home-Plate” or a Willie Mays “Museum” ………… at least they both played with the Mets?).
“Poor ownership will retard the development of an organization”. Unfortunately, that is what’s happening here.
12/21/2009-3:47pm at 3:47 pm (UTC -4)
Roy, no offense, but I think you’ve gone off the reservation.
What is this discounted rate you speak of. Last I saw the Mets had the best offer on the table.
While I do agree the JW is not a brilliant sports mind and should take a back seat, I can’t equate the Bay situation to his old track record. I honestly think they’ve done fairly well this offseason. If Bay and Molina sign at, for giggles sake, 5 years and 2 years respectively, would you say the offseason has been a bust so far?
12/21/2009-4:01pm at 4:01 pm (UTC -4)
Mr. NJ, I still say that Omar has a plan. And frankly, not having made a bunch of panic signings for way too much monry probably means it it more, not less, likely that he does.
I am also willing to bet the plan includes getting a Sp (if not 2). Letting Marquis go is a good sign, since it means he is looking for a SP that is actually better than what is already laying around the roster, and he isn’t willing to go multi years on mediocrity.
As for the lingering contract offers, I would love for the mets to get agressive and try to get one of the non-Bengie catchers to blink (knowing that some of them are going to be without a chair when the music stops). Barajas sounds like a good option, for way less money than Molina wants. Then tell Bengie to go screw himself for waiting too long, and good luck with his other 3 year offers!
For Bay, no reason to not let it wait, but Omar should also step up contact with Boras on Holliday, and get more aggressive on whatever trade alternatives are simmering in the pot.
12/21/2009-4:06pm at 4:06 pm (UTC -4)
Stick allow me to ask you a question.
If you had to guess of the remaining starters who do you think Minaya wants right now at this moment?
If you have a name can you also try to guess why he has not gone after him yet?
Just asking that is all.
12/21/2009-4:31pm at 4:31 pm (UTC -4)
Put me on the spot I see. Well, OK, just don’t expect any due dillegence, reseasch, or justifcation (basically I work like the NY print media!)
Also, I have to base anything on the limited rumors I have read, to even know who is available, and who they are talking to.
But, off the FA pool, I think Garland would be #1, although I don’t recall seeing recent contact info. Pineiro I don’t really understand the fascination, so that could be a smokescreen.
I am guessing that once lackey was gone (for top $$), he is expecting to get someone via trade, and I think that Cinn. is where he expects to do it, with Arroyo being #1 and Harang #2 option.
Me? I would be happy with Harang and Garland, if they still had the $ to add Barajas, and a real bat for LF (Bay should still fit even).
Oh, and I have a gut feeling they are laying in the weeds for Chapman. Remember when Omar made a shocking huge bid for Dice K?
12/21/2009-5:11pm at 5:11 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks just wanted to get an idea on what you feel Minaya is seeking?
12/21/2009-4:09pm at 4:09 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll take a career minor leaguer like Figgy and spend the rest on an upside guy.
12/21/2009-4:41pm at 4:41 pm (UTC -4)
and that’s why he signed with the Nats.
12/21/2009-4:48pm at 4:48 pm (UTC -4)
For similar money they could end up with sheets + figgy say. Quite likely that tandem will give you much better overall numbers (assuming Sheets is actually able to pitch!)
Harden + ? would have been the same too.
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