According to Brad Como from SNY, Jason Bay has passed his physical. Press Conference tomorrow at 11 am.
-Yes, you can breathe and uncross your fingers now.
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Jan 04
Jason Bay Passes Physical
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GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
Geez Dirty, now even you work Philadelphia into Mets related stuff? What has become of us.
But more seriously, I’m glad he passed since there were pretty strong suggestions out of Beantown regarding concerns with both Bay’s knee(s) and shoulder(s). Also, that Philadelphia art museum is quite nice, I’ve been and the staff were quite helpful and well informed. Oh crap now I’m doing it too.
dirtysanchez
1/4/2010-1:32pm at 1:32 pm (UTC -4)
hahaha i honestly didnt realize it until it was posted. Shame on me
trs86
1/4/2010-3:06pm at 3:06 pm (UTC -4)
I am not sure the Redsox were any more concerned than the Mets. They offered him 4/60 obviously pending physical as well.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-3:13pm at 3:13 pm (UTC -4)
Which according to reports, based on recommendations of their training staff 4 years was their ceiling, and they have the DH as a fallback should he no longer be able to run or throw.
trs86
1/4/2010-3:17pm at 3:17 pm (UTC -4)
True on DH.
trs86
1/4/2010-3:19pm at 3:19 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t see the big deal with a 5th year option, even if it is easily attainable it would have to be based on games played and if he is injured he won’t be playing.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-3:25pm at 3:25 pm (UTC -4)
I agree completely with your sentiment on the 5th year option. I have read uncomfirmed reports (I guess we’ll find out tomorrow for sure) that it’s based on averaging 140 games/year over the first 4 years.
If he successfully enacts the 5th year, then drops dead, it won’t matter that much since it’ll be just one year, the last one of the deal.
trs86
1/4/2010-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
I think the Sox would have given it too him too but he took too long and they moved on.
njstuckintx
1/4/2010-1:35pm at 1:35 pm (UTC -4)
w00t w00t!
That would be the last thing the Mets needed, all the hoopla getting Bay signed only to fall apart.
On an interesting side note, I noticed that they said Bay ageed in principle back on Christmas Eve. Here everyone is, killing Bay for not making a decision and we have to wait to hear about it from Fatso… Seems odd they would let something like this wait so long to leak out. Then again, it’s also nice to know that something like this was NOT leaked out, meaning Omar may know who all the spies in the organization are. The last seems like a positive, so I’m sticking with that one. Postive in 2010!
dirtysanchez
1/4/2010-1:39pm at 1:39 pm (UTC -4)
yea they played this close to chest. According to metsblog, the fat man has some other news he will let us common folk know later on this week.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-1:45pm at 1:45 pm (UTC -4)
I was so completely wrong about his “upcoming news” that turned into his announcing the Bay signing (I guessed it would be something really benign like the time the games start was being changed by 5 minutes) now I truly have no idea what this other news could be.
As a NY Giant fan I will not be able to listen to all the J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets talk this week so I’ll have to read about whatever this latest Met news is after the fact.
Maybe any of our Jet fan authors can keep us posted although they may not like how little regard Mike has for the Jets and their “delusional” fans.
njstuckintx
1/4/2010-1:49pm at 1:49 pm (UTC -4)
After MF dropping the Bay news, I’m with you. I have no clue what direction he’ll be going with any Mets News. Probably Molina? Possibly a reduction in Beer prices? I think the fans would rather the 2nd option than the first.
dirtysanchez
1/4/2010-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
man…wth happened to our giants bro…very weak showing to finish the year…Jets wouldnt be in this spot if peyton would have played the whole game
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-2:04pm at 2:04 pm (UTC -4)
To say the defense was underwhelming would be an understatement. I believe the D-coordinator will not be back and there will be some noteworthy turnover of defensive starters. They really missed Kenny Phillips and Antonio Pierce after they were injured too.
mrose
1/4/2010-2:57pm at 2:57 pm (UTC -4)
you can’t knolw for sure that the Jets would have lost to Peyton, they were down 5 and Peyton wasn’t having his way with the Jets D…
Teams have benefited over time from teams that clinched, so its just an annoying argument… if it happened against the Jets, well..thats what happens
wannybackstra
1/4/2010-1:47pm at 1:47 pm (UTC -4)
mattsblog said the news would come later in the show — not sure if that means today or later in the week.
I’m afraid to listen because it might be a Benjie Molina announcement.
mrose
1/4/2010-1:50pm at 1:50 pm (UTC -4)
i think mattsblog meant he would talk more about what news would come later in the show later in the week
aka – listen for the whole show for me to give details on when i will give more news on the mets
i’ve done confused myself now!
dirtysanchez
1/4/2010-1:52pm at 1:52 pm (UTC -4)
well, you can EXPECT a molina announcement. Im just wondering about anything new on the starting rotation front.
wannybackstra
1/4/2010-1:43pm at 1:43 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe Jon Cryer will come back to Mets games now.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-2:00pm at 2:00 pm (UTC -4)
I wonder what the favorite baseball teams of all those 80′s John Hughes movie stars are. My hypothetical Francesa announcement in the wake of the devastating Matthew Broderick news:
Molly Ringwald likes the Padres;
Anthony Michael Hall likes the Red Sox;
John Cusack likes the Chicago Cubs;
Gedde Watanabe likes the Long Duk Dongs.
khmustache
1/4/2010-2:39pm at 2:39 pm (UTC -4)
judd nelson screams yankee to me
CaseStreet
1/4/2010-2:13pm at 2:13 pm (UTC -4)
More importantly, what number will Bay wear?
If he wants any success with the team it better have a 5 or a 7.
Wright 5
Reyes 7
Beltran 15
Santana 57
K-Rod 75
May I suggest 17? Not to knock Tatis, but Bay may be more deserving of that number.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-2:16pm at 2:16 pm (UTC -4)
I know he wore 44 with the Sox, and I believe he wore 38 with the Pirates. As 44 was last worn by Redding and 38 by Nieve, I see nothing preventing him from either one.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-2:27pm at 2:27 pm (UTC -4)
how about 5+7=12…..
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-2:31pm at 2:31 pm (UTC -4)
Wasn’t that Willie’s number? Shouldn’t that be retired?
Anyway Frenchy’s wearing that now, not sure if it’s meaningful to him, although I know he’s a big football guy and 12 is the classic QB number.
I found he also wore 44 with Team Canada for what that’s worth.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-3:00pm at 3:00 pm (UTC -4)
For the record it’s now official, Mets Bay # 44 jerseys are now on sale at Mets.com
metsfan4decades
1/4/2010-3:31pm at 3:31 pm (UTC -4)
Well, that was certainly quick…..
CaseStreet
1/4/2010-3:15pm at 3:15 pm (UTC -4)
better than L-Millz
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
Bend ya knees when you say that
metsfan4decades
1/4/2010-2:25pm at 2:25 pm (UTC -4)
Glad to hear it. On to SP now, please.
And I too was wrong in my assumption that MF could possibly have some ground breaking Met news that meant anything before anyone else spilled it. I, personally can’t take him and his show but have to give credit where credit is due…..
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-2:30pm at 2:30 pm (UTC -4)
It seems that he’s very close to either Jeff Wilpon or Omar.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-2:49pm at 2:49 pm (UTC -4)
Mattsblog ran a poll on who the Mets should get for SP between Sheets, Pineiro, and Garland.
Sheets led the vote by landslide, but from all the information out there, I’m getting the sense that Omar does not want Sheets because of his health issue. Very understandable considering what the Mets went through last year.
Sheets wants something like $10M guaranteed with $2-5M in incentives. Probably 1+1 deal if not just a 1 year deal.
Pineiro wants 4/48 type of deal. This is essentially same money as Sheets for next year. Pineiro is okay, but not that okay. Like Graves (or Case) said earlier, I’m in Pineiro boat only if it’s like 1/10 or 2/18 type of deal.
Garland wants something similar to Marquis got. 2/16. So I’m assuming that Omar will offer him 1/8 type of deal.
Take all of that into consideration, I’d still sign Sheets. He has so much upside compared to the other two. I would offer Sheets something like Pettite got last year.
dirtysanchez
1/4/2010-2:57pm at 2:57 pm (UTC -4)
i agree with sheets but not at 10 guarenteed. Maybe 10-11 on incentives with 7/8 guarenteed but not starting with 10
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-3:03pm at 3:03 pm (UTC -4)
Yes, I’d offer him similar to what Pettite got last year. I think he got $5.5M guaranteed going up to $12M. I think that’s more than fair offer.
CaseStreet
1/4/2010-3:01pm at 3:01 pm (UTC -4)
tough choice, if those numbers stay the same, I’d go w/ Garland and hope to pick up a #2 via mid-season trade.
Otherwise, if you go w/ Sheets, you might end up seeing Figgy, etc. a whole lot more and if you go w/ Pineiro, you have another Ollie situation.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-3:09pm at 3:09 pm (UTC -4)
Garland option would be my next choice. Unless you get Pineiro for 1 year deal, I think Garland would be more safe/conservative option
wannybackstra
1/4/2010-3:10pm at 3:10 pm (UTC -4)
This is why I’m praying Omar can find some sort of trade out there. None of these guys makes me feel much better about the team for this year.
With Bay in the fold and Pagan expendable, would Angel have been as appealing to Atlanta as Melky Cabrera? Probably not. And the Mets would also have had to provide a better pitching prospect than Vizcaino.
But maybe someone is fooled by Angel’s very strong line from last season.
CaseStreet
1/4/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
I’m still holding out for the Royals to dump Meche on us. I see no reason why they would want to pay his contract when they are obviously not going to be competing this year.
wannybackstra
1/4/2010-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
In 156 interleague innings, Meche has held NL opponents to a line of .236 .302 .384 with an OPS+ of 82. 14-6, 3.87 ERA, 1.2 WHIP and 6.8K/9.
I’d like to see how he fares in Citifield.
FWIW, he is 2-1 with a 3.00 ERA v. the Phillies.
trs86
1/4/2010-4:53pm at 4:53 pm (UTC -4)
I like Meche but lets be careful with interleague innings. Remember how the bad Zambrano’s looked. He had Cy Young type numbers. I think he would be a solid #3/4 type.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-5:02pm at 5:02 pm (UTC -4)
Fair point on the inter-league numbers, but I think all of us, myself included, have been guilty of latching on to small samples if they support a position we already favor.
And to Meche’s credit he has thrown more than twice as many inter-league innings as has Victor Z. (156 vs 73) and that’s as of now, I was not able to break down Victor Z. pre-Met acquisition, so unless he literally never pitched inter-league after the Mets got him they were judging him on even fewer than 73 IP.
wannybackstra
1/4/2010-5:21pm at 5:21 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t think anyone suggested that Meche would be the Mets ace.
Bottom line is that in almost a season’s worth of innings against NL teams he’s been pretty good.
And the Mets could use guys who are pretty good.
CaseStreet
1/4/2010-4:39pm at 4:39 pm (UTC -4)
yeah, he’s been very solid.
If the Royals would take Pagan, Castillo and Frenchy, I’d even take Guillen to get us Meche.
That’s $24.4M coming our way, but $11M heading to KC.
JK, Beltran would quit if he had Bay and Guillen flanking him in the OF.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-3:09pm at 3:09 pm (UTC -4)
I think regardless of what your thoughts are on the current Mets rotation, you’re either inclined to sign a guy like Sheets because of his ace-upside if healthy or you’re not.
I don’t know one way or the other how the Mets feel, if pressed to guess I’d say they’re not inclined to sign someone with such an injury history as Sheets, especially considering that there were publicly made concerns about Lackey’s injury history made by the Mets (at least I seem to recall them, not sure to whom they were attributed) and also considering last season’s injury situation.
Thus eliminating Sheets, the choice remains between Pineiro and Garland. There are published reports (however vague they may be) that the Mets are interested in Pineiro, I haven’t read about any interest in Garland.
My personal take on it is I far prefer Garland over Pineiro. Garland has demonstrated a rather consistent performance throughout his career and to me that’s what makes him stand out in a positive way as being different from everyone other than Santana currently on the Mets staff.
Pineiro has been so inconsistent throughout his career that he doesn’t strike me as a reasonable certainty to upgrade the current rotation, certainly not at the rumored cost. If I as Met GM either can’t get or don’t want Garland, then at that point I’m just sticking with what I’ve got. It seems just as likely that any of the in house guys will give a decent performance as it does that Pineiro will, to me.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-3:42pm at 3:42 pm (UTC -4)
I agree with your assessment.
Different route would be to trade for a pitcher. But for whom? The most realistic trade rumor (IMO) that’s been floating out there is Arroyo rumor. I think he would be a good fit with the Mets as he will be a FA next year, has consistency and can play in a big market. He’s not the #2, but if Sheets is out I like Arroyo as the next choice.
trs86
1/4/2010-3:13pm at 3:13 pm (UTC -4)
Plenty of options on the SP front. Why not keep our trade options up as the available guys lack uhm desire? Sign Pedro and Smoltz. Total price could be around 8 million. Maybe one of them can make it through the year. Maybe they go with a 5 1/2 man rotation. Pedro and Smoltz just sub out. LOL..
OK back to reality. Any news on Myers? I still think he could be the sleeper in the group.
mrose
1/4/2010-3:17pm at 3:17 pm (UTC -4)
ugh… I couldn’t bring myself to cheer for that wife beater on my team
trs86
1/4/2010-3:25pm at 3:25 pm (UTC -4)
Hope Backman doesn’t become manager then.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
If if happens I will just remind myself of this: “Kim Myers says the incident saved their marriage and changed her husband for the better.”
metsfan4decades
1/4/2010-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
No – was she really quoted as saying that?
Well dang, Kim – he certainly couldn’t get much worse than beating on you.
Then again, Hillary stood by her man so I guess there is no accounting for what drives that train…..
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe Elin will stand by her man too……. for $300M…
metsfan4decades
1/4/2010-3:33pm at 3:33 pm (UTC -4)
Ditto.
CaseStreet
1/4/2010-3:18pm at 3:18 pm (UTC -4)
damn, thought you were serious. I would’ve gone w/ a Pedro and Big Unit platoon. They can start every other time through the rotation. I think you are on to something here.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
I agree that Myers could be the sleeper in the group. But I’m not sure whether he’ll sign with the Mets.
mrose
1/4/2010-3:47pm at 3:47 pm (UTC -4)
i’m not even joking when I say that I read your post as “I agree that Myers could be the slapper in the group”
isn’t he stated as “HATING” the metS?
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
LOL.. Mets already have the slapper…hit 1 HR last year….
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-3:39pm at 3:39 pm (UTC -4)
Don’t count Ken Rosenthal among those who think the Mets are “cheap.”
His predictions for remaining free agents, in an article this afternoon, include the Mets signing Pineiro, Molina & Hudson, as well as considering the Mets “in the mix” for one of Davis/Garland/Washburn.
trs86
1/4/2010-3:42pm at 3:42 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, MLBTR has them with Pineiro, Molina, Delgado and Smoltz.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
Is that “updated” or their initial prediction/guess at the beginning of the off-season?
FWIW, Rosenthal’s is from today.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
Sorry, I checked and MLBTR’s is also updated today.
njstuckintx
1/4/2010-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
MLBTR guesses that Pineiro, Molina, Smoltz and Delgado will be signed by the Mets.
Smoltz wounldn’t be a bad option for his versatility. Still think we need another lefty in the pen.
Please say no to Delgado and to Rosenthal’s note of Hudson. If I had to waste money, I’d rather it be wasted, if you want to call it that, on Smoltz than on Delgado or Hudson.
dirtysanchez
1/4/2010-4:02pm at 4:02 pm (UTC -4)
my mind is telling me that smoltz would be a good idea for the pen(backup sp)
my blue/black/orange heart is screaming HELL NO lol! Might as well try and get maddux for pitching coach to complete the trifecta…even though i wouldnt mind the latter as much as smoltz in a met uni…puke
njstuckintx
1/4/2010-4:19pm at 4:19 pm (UTC -4)
I was more in the puke phase with Glavine than I would be with Smoltz. Once you start bouncing around to a few different teams, it starts to take the sting out.
Plus, anyone with a background half of what Smoltz has could be good for Oh Pee. Then again, it is Ollie…
metsfan4decades
1/4/2010-4:06pm at 4:06 pm (UTC -4)
IDK, I like Smoltz but I really don’t think he’s got much left in that tank.
And I don’t understand the obsession with some concerning Hudson. I just don’t see him as that much of an upgrade over Castillo.
fongy2
1/4/2010-4:10pm at 4:10 pm (UTC -4)
Please, lets stop wasting
time and money
on guys like
Smoltz.
trs86
1/4/2010-4:55pm at 4:55 pm (UTC -4)
Problem is we have no idea how DeJesus will translate to RF.
trs86
1/4/2010-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
Here would be something interesting. Pagan and Frenchy for Meche and DeJesus. Gives us a SP and more defense. Gives Royals a cheap CF and a power option with a guy under contract a little longer in Frenchy.
Granted I love Frenchy but just trying to be creative.
CaseStreet
1/4/2010-4:07pm at 4:07 pm (UTC -4)
I’d be down with that.
fongy2
1/4/2010-4:08pm at 4:08 pm (UTC -4)
I said this two months ago.
I think its funny how Frenchy
suddenly became a quasi-off
limits guy after I had to spend hours of my time defending the Church deal.
I might wanna expand that deal to include Castillo and Farnsworth as well.
wannybackstra
1/4/2010-5:25pm at 5:25 pm (UTC -4)
DeJesus is just above average in my opinion. But he’s a better bet to be just above average than Franceour, even if Franceour has the potential to be an impact player.
I’d make that deal in a heartbeat.
No thanks on the Castillo for Farnsworth piece, though. The Mets are better off with Castillo than with Hudson and Kyle.
fongy2
1/4/2010-4:05pm at 4:05 pm (UTC -4)
Why am I the only one who finds it
disturbing that Francesca is the only
one in the media who has these stories?
I mean, I know he and Omar are friends BUT, C’mon.
I also can’t believe so many of my fellow Met fans would vote for a
one yr deal with Sheets over Garland.
AND I’m no big Jon Garland fan BUT
haven’t we had enough guys lately
who have gotten paid to sit at home??
We have no idea when and if Sheets will return AND if and when he does,
in what condition AND what type of Pitching he can provide AND if he did
return, for how long? Given his lengthy DL history.
I just don’t understand some Met fans.
I’m hoping the big new is a taker for Castillo, The O-Dog or Adam Kennedy
@2B on a 2yr deal BUT please God,
NO Molina!!!
metsfan4decades
1/4/2010-4:26pm at 4:26 pm (UTC -4)
Naw, you’re not the only one who is ‘disturbed’ by MF breaking these Met stories first…
I really had to turn him off after Mad Dog left as I just couldn’t take it anymore.
Only thing I can think of – outside of the obvious that some pointed out that he and Wilpon are friends – is it has really become embarrassing since he’s been by himself that the flagship station for the Mets has the main afternoon guy with such obvious dislike for the team. So they’re trying to taper that a bit? Just a thought….
fongy2
1/4/2010-4:29pm at 4:29 pm (UTC -4)
But not a bad one!
Seems fairly logical…
At least in the world
of Manny,Moe and Jack….Err…I mean,
Freddy,Jeff and O.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-4:42pm at 4:42 pm (UTC -4)
He is much fairer than Michael Kay on the Mets. Michael Kay is such a homer and a Met hater. I like his show, but cannot stand his take on the Mets.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-4:50pm at 4:50 pm (UTC -4)
Both of them love the Yankees, which is fine they are at least consistent with that.
Both of them are also well versed in understanding that they are call-driven sports talk radio show hosts. Nothing gets the callers lined up like upsetting them. They are certainly sometimes dead on in their criticisms, just as other times they are certainly deliberately pushing fans’ buttons.
I used to think Kay was somewhat fair until about 2 years ago he let out an unreal top of his lungs rant against John Maine which included him repeatedly shouting the phrase “WE KNOW WHAT JOHN MAINE IS!” over any caller who dared to suggest that he might be a young pitcher with upside.
Essentially Kay had determined Maine’s entire career arc based on his brief tenure with the Orioles.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-4:58pm at 4:58 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve always had a problem with Kay’s view on the Mets. I have never, I repeat NEVER heard of him saying anything positive about the Mets.
One recent example, he had an issue with the Mets saying that Reyes underwent a ‘successful surgery’ because that no team would say a player had an ‘unsuccessful surgery’. WHAT?!?! If this was some other player having surgery for the Yankees, he would not say anything.
One of his best friend is Al Leiter and Kay is just bitter about how Leiter was treated by the Mets. AND he thinks he’s a fair judge on both teams??? Sure… whatever….. if it weren’t for Don, I wouldn’t listen to the show…
metsfan4decades
1/4/2010-4:56pm at 4:56 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll confess to never tuning into Michael Kay so I don’t know, but I’ll take your word for it b/c I’ve read the same from others.
dirtysanchez
1/4/2010-4:35pm at 4:35 pm (UTC -4)
I agree with the whole MF thing. I had no idea he was in so much with the mets brass that he has become their voice(never really heard his show much but always thought of him as a yankee guy)
I would take a chance on sheets but no way in hell at 10 mil guarenteed. I doubt there will be any takes for luis at this point and i do agree with 4d that odog is not that much of an improvement over castillo but i think its just a change for the sake of change at this point.
Im sorry to break it to ya fong but molina is a done deal imo
fongy2
1/4/2010-4:40pm at 4:40 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, I know
I’ve already voiced my
very well fouded concerns about Molina.
I can just see a 400AB,
.250/8/50 season out of
him while opposing baserunners go wild
with him behind the plate.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-4:52pm at 4:52 pm (UTC -4)
I would rather see Omar sign Barajas to much less $$ and use that money towards SP. But it seems like it’s pretty much a done deal.
I think he’ll perform better than .250/8/50 though. He’ll have more protection playing with the Mets lineup than SF. SF stadium (AT&T??) is not a small ballpark either. So, I can’t see his offensive number dip as much. And as for his CS%, he has career 32% CS%. Yes, his defense went down like crazy after he turned 30, but perhaps it was a byproduct of SF pitchers getting slow to the plate and something else?? I’m just trying to justify his signing as best as I can…..
metsfan4decades
1/4/2010-5:03pm at 5:03 pm (UTC -4)
Isn’t this the reason, when Piazza’s contract was up, they let him walk and didn’t make a move to resign him? Basically, he was an outstanding offensive catcher with below average defense who just got old. His power numbers were down and without the ability to throw out runners he was deemed not worth the money.
I don’t recall any talk back then about trying to keep him because he ‘called a good game’.
So now, we’re going to sign Molina, who can be compared to Pizza’s last years in the ML. I’m on the fence about this. I don’t have a problem with a one year signing, but feel it absolutely should not be more than 2 years.
GravediggerHebner
1/4/2010-5:10pm at 5:10 pm (UTC -4)
The Piazza aspect aside, my thoughts on Molina come down to this:
There are certain players that are so good, and/or that benefit your particular club so much, that you sign them even if it’s not to terms favorable to the club.
Molina is not one of those players. If the Mets can’t sign him on terms favorable to the team (which IMO is 1 year at best, 1 year + option at worst) they should just pass. He’s not that good.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/4/2010-5:11pm at 5:11 pm (UTC -4)
Good point, but perhaps the Mets felt that Piazza was more expensive compared to how they feel about Molina right now. I’m with you being on the fence, but if Molina signing is unavoidable, the reasons I listed could be the justification.
metsfan4decades
1/4/2010-6:06pm at 6:06 pm (UTC -4)
I agree with both you and Grave.
If we’re going to sign him, wish they would just do it and move on……although I believe the hold up is not the Mets but rather Molina. Molina must think the Mets will eventually cough up that third year. I’m with Grave on this. One year at best, at worst 2nd year option….
fongy2
1/4/2010-7:11pm at 7:11 pm (UTC -4)
For about the 10th time in the past month, I ask: What Catcher hasn’t fallen off fast and far after the
age of 35???
Except for Fisk (a freak of nature)
And Santiago who did BUT suddendly
got much better a few yrs later upon
joining Barry Bonds and buying into
his steroid….Err…Work out routine.
Hate to start the New Year out like
this BUT AGAIN, Molina has .250/8/50
written all over his rather ample self.
B/T/W, I noticed Olivo agreed to a
one yr and an option deal with Colorado. So I guess the team which knows Torrealba better than anyone
preferred that than 2 or more yrs
of Yorvit. Heres hoping Omar is taking notes!