Amidst talk of the Mets’ cruddy minor league system (okay, there’s some talent, but it’s not overflowing with talent like with some other squads), we have to remember that due to their terrible ’09 campaign, the team has the number 7 picking in this year’s amateur draft. Lucky number seven! Don’t believe me? Check out the 2002-2007 number 7 draft picks…
2007 – Matt LaPorta (OF)
LaPorta quickly made his way through the Brewers’ and Indians’ minor league systems by flat-out slugging the ball wherever he went. He was given the opportunity to play in 52 games for the big league club last season, hitting a modest 7 HR with an OPS of .750. While not projected to be a complete stud in the bigs, most analysts expect Matt to develop into an above average player at the plate with decent defense in the outfield.
Clayton
2006 – Clayton Kershaw (SP)
Kershaw kicked butt through the minors and firsted appeared in 22 games for the Dodgers in 2008. He started for a full season in 2009, posting a fantastic ERA of 2.79 with a WHIP of 1.23 over 30 starts. The Dodgers expect big things out of Clayton for years to come.
2005 – Troy Tulowitzki (SS)
Tulowitzki was injected into the Rockies’ roster only one season after being drafted, and aside from a weak 2008 season, he’s produced very well. In 2009, Troy slugged 32 homers and 101 RBI with an OPS of .930, while playing near to above average defense at shortstop. I don’t have to explain the major value of a shortstop who can not only hold his own on the field, but also at the plate.
2004 – David “Homer†Bailey (SP)
Bailey hasn’t shown much success in the majors, but is still very young (23) and has plenty of time to pull himself together. Last season in 20 starts with the Reds, Bailey picked up 8 wins with an ERA of 4.53 and a WHIP of 1.47. Back of the rotation stats, but remember, he’s only 23.
Markakis was already on a video game cover. Way to go #7 pick!
2003 – Nick Markakis (OF)
Drafted by the Orioles, Markakis has been a very solid player for the major league club for four straight seasons. Through his four years, Nick’s aggregated an OPS of .838 and an UZR of 11.6, mostly in right field.
Prince of Doughnuts
2002 – Prince Fielder (1B)
Home runs for the Brewers since 2006: 28, 50, 34, 46. We’d kill to have this guy at 1B. ‘Nuff said.
Believe me now? There’s already some serious talent among these six players, and they’re all still young and developing. It’s not all doom and gloom in Mets country!
92 comments
stickguy
1/26/2010-8:24am at 8:24 am (UTC -4)
All this is nice history, but just that, history.
What we really need to know is, what college relief Pitchers are eligible for the draft this year?
prismo
1/26/2010-8:25am at 8:25 am (UTC -4)
Mister negative!
prismo
1/26/2010-8:31am at 8:31 am (UTC -4)
I really don’t like the “it’s just history” assertion.
There’s some serious talent in the draft at #7 pretty much every year, and teams have consistently capitalized on that talent. That certainly doesn’t mean the Mets are going to draft a hall of famer, but odds are that they draft someone who will (at the very least) end up as a solid player in the majors within a few years of being drafted. It happens much more often than not in the early first round, as much as the draft can sometimes seem like a gamble.
stickguy
1/26/2010-8:36am at 8:36 am (UTC -4)
It was a joke son, a joke.
well that, and a dig on the recent drafting philosophy of the FO. I certainly hope they do take an impact player, hopefully a big bat out of college. Or a stud SP prospect. Or anyone that isn’t a toolsy HS kid with debatable BB ability.
prismo
1/26/2010-8:38am at 8:38 am (UTC -4)
Sorry, couldn’t tell it was a joke.
prismo
1/26/2010-8:42am at 8:42 am (UTC -4)
We also have to draft the best available player, and stop with this “slot” nonsense.
stickguy
1/26/2010-8:51am at 8:51 am (UTC -4)
well, that would be nice too. And another way to reinvest the money they don’t seem to be (over)spending on the mediocre available FA talent.
GravediggerHebner
1/26/2010-10:46am at 10:46 am (UTC -4)
You hit on it right here in my opinion Prismo. All the talent that you’ve demonstrated is available at the # 7 pick is useless to the Mets if they continue to stick to drafting “the best player available…to us at slot prices.”
saltygary
1/26/2010-8:56am at 8:56 am (UTC -4)
Look like they also have Pick #55. If they are going to focus on building the minors then they need to quite worrying about cost and just get the best on the board. Especially if it’s a pitcher.
stickguy
1/26/2010-9:00am at 9:00 am (UTC -4)
That isn’t the 2nd rounder they lost for Bay? If not, good.
Too bad they don’t have any supplemental picks too. They can work out nicely.
njstuckintx
1/26/2010-9:08am at 9:08 am (UTC -4)
I guess time will tell if Carter turns out to be better or not than the Sox’ supplimental pick this year for Wagner…
trs86
1/26/2010-9:27am at 9:27 am (UTC -4)
Can’t judge that trade on just Carter. They got Lora too.
But you also have to factor in the cash they saved and the gamble, perhaps small but a gamble none the less, avoided.
fongy2
1/26/2010-9:44am at 9:44 am (UTC -4)
And the draft picks lost!
Yet another great move by Omar!
trs86
1/26/2010-9:59am at 9:59 am (UTC -4)
I agree, I thought it was a great move.
However, I sense you are being sarcastic.
Let me ask you this. How much would you have ripped Omar if he kept Wagner, offered him arbitration and then he took it? Paying him 10M to gripe.
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:01am at 10:01 am (UTC -4)
Funny, you’re always quick with
an excuse for Omar.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:05am at 10:05 am (UTC -4)
Fongy the even more incredible thing is that if you had been paying attention for the last 8 months you would know I want Omar gone.
What I can’t stand is the need to gripe and complain about almost every damn move he makes using hindsight as your guide. It’s much easier for us to sit here and say, he would not have taken it. That’s two picks lost. It’s not our money or job. However, there is a much better chance that Omar was not sure Wagner would even make it through the season much less be in the position to make contract demands.
Again, there are so many reasons to bash Omar for. I don’t get why you guys pick the trivial ones to harp on and on about.
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:15am at 10:15 am (UTC -4)
I actually have no problem with
the move.
Just like trashing Omar
and watching
the flood of
defenders.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:20am at 10:20 am (UTC -4)
Fongy I think I am more of a protector of the innocent and incompetent. Next I will be defending you. j/k.
Mr North Jersey
1/26/2010-10:43am at 10:43 am (UTC -4)
TRS, you keep saying you don’t understand. Using me as an example you don’t understand when I say it’s not my job to know what Minaya should have done or when I say I don’t care about money except if it interferes from making moves down the road.
Here is the thing you don’t have to get it. You have this habit to say when you don’t understand why people say things that they are trivial among other things or like you told me petty. Personally I don’t react to that because for me you can’t be further from the truth.
But I see you continuously have this need to have things fit into this mythical box you have and if it doesn’t then it has to be because it’s either trivial or petty or just wanting to bash Omar or anything other than simply saying I just don’t understand or I just don’t agree.
There are many others here that also like you don’t understand the difference is they don’t follow it with telling people they are trivial or petty.
I say this because your a very intelligent and knowledgeable Baseball fan and you do yourself a disservice when you go the route of telling people they are petty or trivial because like you said you don’t understand.
GravediggerHebner
1/26/2010-11:05am at 11:05 am (UTC -4)
Fongy if you just like trashing Omar and watching the defenders then it will amuse you to know how often I just don’t bother because I don’t have the emotional or mental energy.
So chuckle over the fact that for every time I do jump in, there are at least 4 or 5 times that I just sigh and move along. Enjoy the ulcer your little game causes!
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/26/2010-9:48am at 9:48 am (UTC -4)
Looks like the Mets are out of Sheets race… but still in the race for Smoltz?? I don’t get it…
stickguy
1/26/2010-9:49am at 9:49 am (UTC -4)
when in doubt, follow the money.
DNDJohan aka kistics
1/26/2010-9:54am at 9:54 am (UTC -4)
Given that the Mets were willing to shell out about 14-16M for Pineiro and Molina, I was under the impression that the Mets have enough money to sign Sheets AND another SP. But I guess I’m wrong….
fongy2
1/26/2010-9:57am at 9:57 am (UTC -4)
You might be!
Maybe in the end our FO got smart and
figured it was too much of arisk to give
7mil to a guy who you don’t know exactly
when he’s gonna pitch?
Kingman 26
1/26/2010-9:58am at 9:58 am (UTC -4)
LOL! You got it!
The Smoltz race is indeed a far, far less expensive one to partake in!
trs86
1/26/2010-10:02am at 10:02 am (UTC -4)
How much is far? Sheets it looks like it’s going to be 8-10 million. Smoltz I am guessing what it took last year which was
# 1 year/$5.5M (2009)
* signed by Boston as a free agent 1/13/09
* $5.5M in bonuses based on days on active 25-man roster:
o $125,000 for his first day
o $ 35,000 per day, June 1 – Oct. 3
o $500,000 for Oct. 4
* award bonuses
* $0.5M assignment bonus if traded
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:09am at 10:09 am (UTC -4)
Good job, if you get it!
Kingman 26
1/26/2010-10:17am at 10:17 am (UTC -4)
I highly doubt Smoltz will get what you are suggesting…why would he with his age, injuries, and last year’s numbers?
trs86
1/26/2010-10:19am at 10:19 am (UTC -4)
Just putting up what he got last year. He pitched more last year than he did in 2008. LOL.
If not then I don’t see him getting less than 3-5 guaranteed.
fongy2
1/26/2010-9:55am at 9:55 am (UTC -4)
Thank God!
CaseStreet
1/26/2010-10:08am at 10:08 am (UTC -4)
link?
All I read was that the A’s made a “competitive” offer.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:10am at 10:10 am (UTC -4)
Every outlet keeps reporting the Mets are out of it. Heyman keeps twitting that they are out.
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:11am at 10:11 am (UTC -4)
Again, Thank God!
trs86
1/26/2010-10:13am at 10:13 am (UTC -4)
Ben Sheets appears to be headed to Oakland, yup, as far away from Citi Field as possible. That’s Oakland, a team, that does things on the cheap.
I can’t say how serious the Mets were, but they couldn’t have been that intent on getting.
Baseball Digest.
Again take it for what it’s worth.
stickguy
1/26/2010-10:21am at 10:21 am (UTC -4)
the XM morning guys wre discussing this today. Duquette made a good point about why the A’s are in on sheets. Always a chance that they are in the race, and if he holds together, can help them make a run.
If they aren’t in the race, they auction him off for picks at the deadline.
I assume they have to get him for a reasonable base + incentives, so the A’s exposure is minimal.
Say, 6 mill base + 4 mill incentives (just a ballpark, I know what he is looking for!). trade him on 6/30, and the As spend ~3mill, and for that get 1/2 season of a SP + whatever they trade him for.
And if he gets to the end of the year with them (healthy) they canalways try arbitration for picks.
njstuckintx
1/26/2010-10:46am at 10:46 am (UTC -4)
The more I think on it, the idea of a healthy Sheets would have been a gret fit for the Mets, but the actual work to get him signed and convincing him he was truely wanted here was never going to happen. It seems that the teams that say, “you know, we want this guy” and then go full court press for them are more often than not are the teams that get him. See R.Sox with Lackey. Other than Bay, whom I feel they targeted and went after him, all the other guys out there have been approached in a passive style, hoping they will fall into the Mets hands.
I know you can’t convey that you want all available FA’s to come to the Mets so they all feel confortable. I guess it’s the general feelings that SP was not made a priority while Bay and/or Molina were being persued makes it frustrating. It’s like saying to these guys, well, Bay and Molina were a higher priority than you, but now that they’ve been signed, our priority is you and you alone.
I’m probably misguided in my thinking but I’m dead tired from a sick child all night long and there never seems to be anything but clouds and rain in Mets land. Draining, I tell you, Draining!
CaseStreet
1/26/2010-10:03am at 10:03 am (UTC -4)
So, who would you target? Pitcher or Position player?
prismo
1/26/2010-10:05am at 10:05 am (UTC -4)
SHEETS
trs86
1/26/2010-10:06am at 10:06 am (UTC -4)
Assuming we CAN’T get Sheets.
Garland/Washburn, Smotlz and Hudson. Let Hudson come in and pickup a 1B glove to backup 1B too. I don’t see why Castillo and Hudson’s less than 5M should stand in the way of improving the team.
Kingman 26
1/26/2010-10:11am at 10:11 am (UTC -4)
I read the other day on MLBTR that Gritty McNonsense is seeking 9 mil per….
prismo
1/26/2010-10:12am at 10:12 am (UTC -4)
HAHA. Good luck finding that…
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:13am at 10:13 am (UTC -4)
We already have brittle Secondbaseman.
Still no #2 SP, 8th inning guy or Righty
help for Murphy yet thought!
trs86
1/26/2010-10:16am at 10:16 am (UTC -4)
I don’t see why Hudson could not play as good of a 1B as Tatis or Garko.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:17am at 10:17 am (UTC -4)
Besides that, like Hudson or not (you guys know I am not a huge fan) he helps the defense if you slot him at 2B instead of Castillo. If we really are being forced to settle for guys like Garland and Washburn we need all the help defensively we can get.
Kingman 26
1/26/2010-10:25am at 10:25 am (UTC -4)
Because he has never ever played even one game there in the majors or minors and it is a VERY questionable idea? (I would use different adjectives were it not you TRS who I like and respect so much).
Why not sign Smoltz to play first the days he doesn’t pitch and kill two birds with one stone? He is a good athlete….
trs86
1/26/2010-10:39am at 10:39 am (UTC -4)
How many games had Murphy played at 1B before we decided to use him there? How many days had Tatis played at 1B before we decided to use him there?
Tatis had 34 total innings counting minors and majors before we slotted him out there.
Murphy had about 10 games in AA.
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
Murphy needs more of a veteran 1Bman
(and RH hitter) to
help him at first.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:44am at 10:44 am (UTC -4)
Hmmm, veteran 1B. I don’t have a clue who is on the market for that. Thome although not RH? LOL who are we thinking here?
trs86
1/26/2010-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
Rich Aurilia (38)
Hank Blalock (29)
Russell Branyan (34)
Miguel Cairo (36)
Frank Catalanotto (36)
Tony Clark (38)
Carlos Delgado (38) – Type B, not offered arb
Nomar Garciaparra (36)
Ryan Garko (29)
Mike Jacobs (29)
Kevin Millar (38)
Fernando Tatis (35) – Type B, not offered arb
Chad Tracy (30)
Daryle Ward (35)
Dmitri Young (36)
trs86
1/26/2010-10:48am at 10:48 am (UTC -4)
Veteran RH
Aurillia, LOL
Tony Clark?
Millar
The rest are either not known as 1B, are LH or have not even played 400 games at the position.
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:48am at 10:48 am (UTC -4)
I don’t disagree.
Not much left out there.
A yr ago,I would have
said Millar
BUT he looked real old the 2nd half of last season.
I think I’d try to Bring in Garko.
But no one else on that list.
prismo
1/26/2010-10:51am at 10:51 am (UTC -4)
Speaking of veteran 1B.
One that really peeved me was hearing that Murphy and Keith had planned on getting together in the offseason to work on defense at 1B, but the timing didn’t work out.
Are you KIDDING ME? They couldn’t find just a couple days to get together? That’s complete BS, in my opinion.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:52am at 10:52 am (UTC -4)
I would not consider Garko a veteran 1B. Even if so, based on what scouts have said he is no Daniel Murphy over there.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:53am at 10:53 am (UTC -4)
They are supposed to during ST Prismo. I think the previous was planned during the holidays and it did not work out.
prismo
1/26/2010-10:55am at 10:55 am (UTC -4)
They better!!!
njstuckintx
1/26/2010-10:52am at 10:52 am (UTC -4)
Does Murphy truely need Righty help? I though his splits were pretty even, righty/lefty.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:54am at 10:54 am (UTC -4)
.223 .267 .415 .682 vs LHP.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:16am at 10:16 am (UTC -4)
True but as Wanny would tell you that means nothing.
The source also says that the Nats only want to give Hudson a deal akin to Juan Uribe’s one-year, $3.25MM contract with San Francisco, feeling that Uribe’s deal “set the market for infielders like Hudson.”
With no one else really in the market and guys like Kennedy and Lopez still around I don’t see him getting more than 5 guaranteed.
prismo
1/26/2010-10:12am at 10:12 am (UTC -4)
FYI, Hudson’s OPS vs lefties last season was nearly 200 points higher than both Castillo and Murphy’s.
CaseStreet
1/26/2010-10:09am at 10:09 am (UTC -4)
LOL. You guys have a one track mind. I meant, who would you target in the draft? You know, the topic of this post.
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:10am at 10:10 am (UTC -4)
Kenny Powers?
trs86
1/26/2010-10:11am at 10:11 am (UTC -4)
LOL, hell if I know.
GravediggerHebner
1/26/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
In my completely amateur unscientific way I would say position player. It just “seems like” I hear more about various pitchers as prospects than I do hitters.
Off the top of my head there’s Niese, Holt, Familia and Mejia augmented by names like Stoner, Gee, Moviel and of course old friend Parnell.
Whereas with hitters there’s Martinez, Thole and Davis augmented by names like Havens, Flores and Nieuwenhuis.
In my very unscientific way it just seems like there’s more depth of pitching currently. I’m sure I’m overlooking people in both categories that merit consideration. How that might sway my opinion remains to be seen.
trs86
1/26/2010-11:14am at 11:14 am (UTC -4)
Problem is that pitching seems to flame out quicker than the hitters at the prospect level. Don’t know which argument that is supporting though.
GravediggerHebner
1/26/2010-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
Good point on the flaming out. Ultimately I don’t care and just want them to take the best player available at their pick, regardless of position. I just wish I had more evidence to support that they would do that.
stickguy
1/26/2010-10:24am at 10:24 am (UTC -4)
Another thought about Hudson and Castillo.
I know that slappy played a full season, but with his physical condition (2 bad knees, etc.), would anyone be surprised if he broke down this year, and missed substantial time?
If you say no, are you comfy with Cora becoming the everyday 2B?
Plus, if you have a replacement on hand, there is a better chance they get creative in making slappy disappear.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
Here’s my thing. EVERY outlet seems to think the Mets like Hudson.
This from Noble this week:
“They recognize Orlando Hudson would be the energizer they need, but they won’t pursue him unless they rid themselves of Luis Castillo.”
Well to me considering Hudson’s likely price, that’s just stupid. If they think Hudson would help them win and you can get him for 5M or less (considering there’s almost no market for 2B) yet you allow Luis Castillo to make your decisions? Put Castillo on the bench and he can play 2B on a day when Hudson is off or playing 1B. If he gripes or becomes a bad clubhouse guy then eat almost all of his contract like the Angels and others did or just release him. Why is 12M over 2 seasons making demands on what we have to do to win?
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
Mind you this is the same Marty Noble who admitted on MLB network leaving Robbie Alomar off
his HOF ballot b/c of the spitting incident.
Like most sports scribes, he has no standing with
me. I’ve read alot more thoughtful arguments,agreeing,disagreeing,pro&con on this
blog than anything he has to say.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:41am at 10:41 am (UTC -4)
Just using him as an example Fongy. The idea that the Mets want Hudson is in more than one media outlet.
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
Oh, no…Don’t get me wrong. I understand. What I meant is more
that Noble’s opinion’s aren’t even worth reading anymore.
His interview on MLB network with
Verducci and Heyman was pretty much the last straw.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:48am at 10:48 am (UTC -4)
I have never been a big Noble fan myself.
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:52am at 10:52 am (UTC -4)
I don’t know if you’re a hockey fan
BUT to me reading Noble for yrs and yrs was always like reading Larry Brooks
on the Rangers…..
Bash,bash,bash.
Now,I don’t expect these guys to be like “The Scooter” talkin”bout The Yankees, BUT C’mon!
Ay least I gave Noble the respect of
his yrs in the biz
BUT after the Alomar
thing,that’s gone.
Kingman 26
1/26/2010-10:29am at 10:29 am (UTC -4)
I would be very comfortable if Hudson went to Japan or found another line of work, so I would never, ever have to see his name on another Met-related site again.
I think Slappy will play 140 games and be his usual moderately productive self.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
With league worst defense.
fongy2
1/26/2010-10:46am at 10:46 am (UTC -4)
And having to watch him move around
like an 80 y/o man out there.
CaseStreet
1/26/2010-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
Seriously, if I were to sign a utility infielder it’d be Lopez not Hudson. Not much of a chance that Lopez gets much more than Hudson. Not that he’s great, but at least he’s younger.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
But not as solid defensively.
prismo
1/26/2010-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
At 2B, Lopez compares favorably to Hudson over the past few seasons in UZR.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:51am at 10:51 am (UTC -4)
True, the UZR system does. However, he’s not been good at other positions and has been very erratic. I would not complain if we got Lopez. I just think Hudson fits better.
GravediggerHebner
1/26/2010-11:12am at 11:12 am (UTC -4)
I disagree because I think Lopez has at least shown some what may be fake versatility but versatility nonetheless. Hudson has shown none, real or fake.
trs86
1/26/2010-11:12am at 11:12 am (UTC -4)
I see Hudson as a permanent replacement for Castillo though.
GravediggerHebner
1/26/2010-11:32am at 11:32 am (UTC -4)
Fair point, I just don’t see the team ridding themselves of him for at least one more season and he may just be here for the balance of his contract. How helpful will Hudson be by the time the 2012 season rolls around, and is he willing to wait that long?
I think the permanent replacement for Castillo, whoever he is, isn’t going to be Hudson or Lopez.
Might be Havens or Tejada from the system, might be some trade next off season when the last year of Castillo’s contract is more easily traded or cut, or some FA signed after 2011.
My reply comment above came in what seemed to be Case’s proposed context of utility player.
prismo
1/26/2010-10:58am at 10:58 am (UTC -4)
Castillo’s 2009 season was a curse. He hit just well enough for Omar to say “well we don’t NEED to replace him”, but not well enough to be traded to another team.
trs86
1/26/2010-10:59am at 10:59 am (UTC -4)
I think the hitting was more than enough to trade him. There are three problems.
1) His fielding was god awful
2) There are better 2B on the market
3 There is no 2B market
CaseStreet
1/26/2010-10:59am at 10:59 am (UTC -4)
from Noble’s bag of emails:
I’m not sure I can change your point of view. The Mets needed — still need — a starting pitcher. I think they’re counting too much on renaissance seasons from Mike Pelfrey, John Maine and Oliver Perez. If each wins 15 — that’s a lot to ask — then the team will prosper. But questions about their catching, second base and first base will persist.
CaseStreet
1/26/2010-11:09am at 11:09 am (UTC -4)
I tend to agree with Mr. Noble.
Coming off the past few seasons, especially 09 with all the injuries, this year was no time to play the market and see what falls into your lap.
How much more confident would we be if Omar would’ve signed Molina, Hudson, LaRoche and Garland? They’re not great improvements and each has their own issues, whether it’s being too fat, gritty, an innings eater. Yet these are solid ML players that as a whole would’ve improved the team and left less question marks.
There’s still an outside chance for Garland, but what’s the point if you’re not trying to improve the entire team.
Hopefully our question marks won’t dissapoint, but man we’ve got a lot of question marks.
2010 Mets: We Believe in Riddles!
trs86
1/26/2010-11:12am at 11:12 am (UTC -4)
Depends. Do you really want to overpay Molina, he said he had to get 2 years from the Mets. Do we know that LaRoche would not have forced 2 years from the Mets and closer to what the Giants offered? We will have to wait and see about Garland and Hudson.
I am a firm believer that you really should not over pay average.
fongy2
1/26/2010-11:33am at 11:33 am (UTC -4)
Except for Ben Sheets?
CaseStreet
1/26/2010-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
that’s valid, but there are exceptions to the rule. With so many injury concerns this year from our returning players, 1/2 the lineup needing an upgrade (C, 1B, 2B and LF), and not much available in the above average free agents, we kind of needed to push the limits within reason.
fongy2
1/26/2010-11:04am at 11:04 am (UTC -4)
With this Smoltz talk I’m curious, who do you think has a better HOF argument Schilling or Smoltz???
trs86
1/26/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
Smotlz hands down. Their numbers are almost identical except you throw in 150+ saves for Smoltz.
prismo
1/26/2010-11:11am at 11:11 am (UTC -4)
Agreed. Smoltz by a mile.