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Jan 29

A Stunner For Optimism

Stone Cold Stunner of Optimism

Stone Cold Stunner of Optimism

Ok…I am officially sick and tired of the negativity surrounding this upcoming season. While im sure some see their negativity as “realism” (that the mets are a last place team),  I would like to take a look back at the optimism going into the 2009 season from some of our members and authors on Metsblog:

khmustache April 6, 2009 at 1:00 pm

OPENING DAY!!!!!!!!!! I THINK I’M GONNA PEE MY PANTS!!!!!!!

TheDirtySanchez April 6, 2009 at 3:31 pm

imo, santana is the leader of the mets. Im glad that he is pumped to get the season started….SO AM I GUYS!!! LETS PLAY BALL!!!

brock kingman April 6, 2009 at 5:22 pm

A-FRIGIN-men to that!

Omar for Exec of the Year!

OK, a little early, but I have been waiting almost four long months to see this new pen in action, and even without JJ’s best stuff, it looked AWESOME.

KRod actually looks even better than in the past.

If you can remember, 2009 had just as many question marks if not more than 2010. I understand that the 2009 season beat us to the brink of insanity but those feelings should remain with that season. I know its much easier said than done(people are still hung up on the collapse) but we must try. At the start of the 2009 season NO ONE predicted the season to unfold the way it did… so how can we pretend to have a clue as to the way the 2010 season will unfold.  I want you to take a look at the lineup that will most likely start the 2010 season(barring some super hot performance in ST)

Jose "The most electrifying player in MLB" Reyes

Jose "The most electrifying player in MLB" Reyes

Luis "Mr. Slappy" Castillo

Luis "Mr. Slappy" Castillo

David "The Golden Boy" Wright

David "The Golden Boy" Wright

Jason "Bomb" Bay (still working on one)

Jason "The Masher" Bay (still working on this one)

Dan "The Iron Man" Murphy

Dan "The Iron Man" Murphy

Jeff "Frenchie" Francoeur

Jeff "Frenchie" Francoeur

Gary "Matthews" Jr

Gary "Matthews" Jr

Omir "The guy who hit that home run off Papelbon in Boston" Santos

Omir "The guy who hit that home run off Papelbon in Boston" Santos

Im sure we can have a food fight of stats to go either way with the potential performance of this group but I believe we would be hard pressed to find someone that thinks this group cannot be at the very least competitive. I also believe that a season like 2009 is unprecedented and a similar string of injuries can happen to any team, including the Phillies. We have to try and separate the negativity and pessimism we feel toward the front office from the team on the field. Yes the office is a mess but until the realize the embarrassment they are causing to themselves and the organization, things will not begin to change. Pitchers and catchers are going to report in a few weeks, a prelude to the sport that will dominate about 7 months of our lives. We need to realize and accept that the  2009  season was an extremely unprecedented event that the odds of it happening back to back im sure is lower than one winning the lottery…

"Oh....you didnt win?"

"Oh....you didnt win?"

Im sure everyone has heard this 100 times by now “baseball is a marathon, not a sprint” and that couldn’t be more true. While it is important how you start but it is more important how you finish. We know not what the 2010 season has in store for us and given that, we should give this year a fair shake. I am not saying to forget the past but rather lets look for optimism going into the future. Yes, Omar did not acquire a multitude of potential FA that would have helped the club but so didn’t many other clubs in MLB. Omar however, did retain our prospects in the system. This move could prove to be a shrewd move come the trade deadline. Fact is no one can control what will happen over the 2010 season but what we can control is what we as fans bring to the table. Lets stand behind the crew of guys to take this team that we love so much as far as they can take it, Let us remember that we have a true #1 ace in Johan that has stood strong for us in the past and will do so again, Lets root for the success of Oliver “Headcase” Perez and John “Crosswords” Maine, Lets root for our new guy Jason Bay to help us get the job done, Lets…

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

root for a rebound season from Reyes and Wright, Lets  root for the New York Mets!

Heres to a brand new season...

Heres to a brand new season...

LGM!

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65 comments

  1. khmustache

    haha, great post! i remember when and where i wrote that… and don’t worry, i did not, in fact, pee my pants. and you’re right, i love the mets, and now we’re back to the underdog status that we love. LETS GO METS!!!

    1. dirtysanchez

      lol..i think we thrived more and had more fun in that role…even though 2006 was pretty awesome

      1. khmustache

        2006 was pretty awesome, but even then we still had an underdog feeling around the stadium cause of the braves streak. i feel like the mets SHOULD be underdogs, in fact, i’ll go so far as to say that’s why a lot of us are fans… well, and a bunch of us were 7 years old in 1986…or 47

        1. dirtysanchez

          or 1 lol

          1. khmustache

            haha… cmon man, don’t make me feel old… save that crap for metsfan4decades….

  2. stickguy

    Hmmmm, beer.

    is it Blue Moon?

    And I like the positiviality.

    just remember the new word of the year: If If If If If If If.

    but, why only taking over for 4 months? let’s hope for 7, and more if you count ST!

    1. dirtysanchez

      lmaooo math was not my strong suit in school…correcting that now

  3. mrose

    great post..but one correction: I believe its already been said that Pagan is the starting Centerfielder unless he loses the job in ST

    1. dirtysanchez

      i have no idea where he will bat pagan with castillo in the lineup…pagan did a good job as a lead off guy for us but castillo spent alot of time in the 2 hole. If you keep castillo at the 2 hole with our original lead off guy there(reyes) where would you hit pagan? I dont think he hits well enough for 8th to get on base for the pitcher to move him over and not enough for #2. I figured for the immediate purposes, GMJ would be easier to place in a lineup than pagan…plus i think GMJ has more power than pagan.

      1. mrose

        well, i’m not gonna get into the argument of whos better…but the bottom line is…i’d put money on Pagan being the starter, especially after his decent success last year and the fact that is the way they are already leaning :)

        1. dirtysanchez

          your probably right, i just have no idea what the lineup would look like with pagan in it. Ill leave that to jerry and his “gut” feelings lol

      2. stickguy

        these days, GM jr. barely has more power than Castillo.

        please put him on the bench for now!

  4. saltygary

    Look I’m either going to drink because they are winning or drink because their in last place. Thats a no lose situation in my mind!

  5. GravediggerHebner

    I loves me some eTrade baby!

    “Me and the boys were talkin’ about what to do with all this extra coin, and I was like, ‘I’m rentin’ a clown.’ …and, uh, I really underestimated the creepiness.”

    1. dirtysanchez

      ahhahaha

      “dont be a shankapotomus”…lol

      those commercials crack me up…especially the lotto one

      1. GravediggerHebner

        “That ball was on the cart path! Check your rulebook.”

  6. GravediggerHebner

    So Michael Kay is on ESPN 1050 dissecting every word of Omar Minaya’s appearance on SNY last night.

    He just played Omar speaking about his pitching staff and saying roughly “remember these same guys were the pitchers that we had when many people picked us to go to the playoffs and some to win the WS.”

    So Kay responds “are you kidding me? Who picked you to go to the playoffs, writers and talk show hosts? What the hell do we know?”

    Exactly Michael Kay. What the hell do you know? You just discredited yourself, and then followed by offering me your opinion of just what a shambles the Mets are and how bad you think they are right now. But what the hell is that, and why is it worth anything more to me than it was a year ago? Who are you, and what the hell do you know?

    1. trs86

      LOL, agreed.

    2. DNDJohan aka kistics

      He hates the Mets. His butt buddy Al has been treated badly.

    3. metsfan4decades

      +100. Wish someone would have called in and said that exact thing to Kay.

  7. CaseStreet

    I like to rosterbate as much as the next guy, but I really love to lineup lambada.

    Pagan
    Castillo
    Reyes
    Wright
    Bay
    Murphy
    Frenchy
    Santos

    1. trs86

      Hey no fair.

  8. GravediggerHebner

    Some articles I’m still waiting to find somewhere, anywhere today:

    - Brian Cashman lowballed Johnny Damon by only offering him a 1/$6 mil deal, he should be fired for incompetence. How dare he offer so little to a free agent, what an insult.

    - The Marlins signed Jose Veras and Derek Turnbow. What are they thinking? Veras stinks and Turnbow hasn’t pitched in years. The Marlins are a joke.

    - The Cubs gave $3.3 mil to Xavier Nady despite the fact that he’s coming off his 2nd Tommy John surgery, something no established everyday player ever has. What are they thinking? They are a laughingstock.

    - The Rockies gave $1.75 mil to Jason Giambi to be a pinch-hitter. Are you serious? What a waste of money, are you telling me they couldn’t find someone to fill that role at a better price?

    1. trs86

      LOL but Grave they don’t have the highest payroll in the NL so that makes it better.

      1. GravediggerHebner

        Someone actually calling “BS” on the Yankees is nice to read, thanks for the link.

        I was waiting for the earth to open up and all non-Yankee fans to fall into a fiery pit earlier today when I read an article about Chien-Ming Wang and that the Mets should go ahead and sign him despite the presence of Luis Castillo on the infield because “Wang was able to survive and thrive for years despite the limited range of Derek Jeter.”

        1. CaseStreet

          ooh, where?

          1. GravediggerHebner

            Here:

            http://nybaseballdigest.com/?p=20745

  9. Mr North Jersey

    Wow I’m sure he will say that didn’t come out right. Kay… is saying Marquis would of been a good guy to go after because all he has ever done is go to the postseason every year he has ever pitched. Forget what his record is, he was in the postseason every year so nuff said sign him.

    -sigh

    1. DNDJohan aka kistics

      Kay is a big time homer (even though he says he’s unbiased). The dude cannot pick enough bones on the Mets

      1. Mr North Jersey

        Kay owes his success to the Yankee dynasty. He would of been a bitter radio jock if he was the voice of a team that never won.

  10. dirtysanchez

    Has anybody snached up kiko callero?

  11. Mr North Jersey

    LoL here you go,

    Matthew Cerrone: I don’t think now is the time to be mad, at least not yet. However, if the team is a disaster mid season, in regards to burning bridges, I promise to light my press credentials on fire and use it for smoke signals, if it means helping to get this team back on track.

    Good one Matt way to make a promise you never intend on doing since we all know that burning your press credentials will in no way help in getting the team back on track.

    -Fake

    1. trs86

      Hmmm, which one do I want more….

    2. GravediggerHebner

      Like every time I try to link to one of his posts, soon that link will no longer work and instead we’ll find a page that says “dude, you 404′d it.”

      Words are disposable. Except if DirtySanchez is looking for them, he finds everything. I am glad I didn’t say anything particularly quoteworthy that day.

  12. Mr North Jersey

    It’s Metsapalooza over at 1050 espn radiio NY

    1. GravediggerHebner

      I’m enjoying Mike Breen and Don LaGreca showing their support.

      Breen to Kay: “You will never know the joy that a Met fan will feel when the Mets finally win a world series because you have never experienced the lean times we have. When the Yankees win the world series you just say ‘alright they won another one.’ When the Mets win again it will be a true life changing experience for us.”

      1. Mr North Jersey

        lol I heard that also to which Kay replies he became a fan in sixty-something and the Yankees didnt win till 78. He was 16 in 1978 I’m sure those pre teen years were realy hard on him. lol

  13. metsfan4decades

    Great post, Dirty. I’m on board, I’m in, I’m pumped up.
    I love the NY Mets. Always did, always will.

    Those pictures have me so psyched for the season to start.

  14. Mr North Jersey

    Makes playing touch football all the better.
    http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/01/29/sports/photos_galleries/Lingerie%20Football/cropped/US-LINGERIE-FOOTBALL-SUPERBOWL133239–500×380.jpg

  15. stickguy

    bottom line, for as bad as the record was last year, and the silliness of the FO this off season (at least as presented by the “media”), and all the “Ifs”,

    There are still a lot of really good ball players on this team. And a bunch more with talent that just haven’t quite put it together in a career year, but that certainly have the potential.

    now they just need a ML quality manager to help out it all together.

    1. Mr North Jersey

      I think that if Reyes stays healthy he will put up not good but very good numbers.

      I think even if Wright doesn’t hot for power if he cuts down on his k’s he can hit for an incredibly high average with some protection like he did in 2009 before Beltran went down with injuries and as long as the rbi’s are there I don’t care about how he gets them.

      I think Bay will be a lot better than expected.

      I think Santana if healthy will be just as dominant as ever.

      I think KRod if healthy will be fine.

      I think Feliciano will continue to pitch well.

      I don’t know what to expect from anyone else on this team.

      1. steveo

        My thoughts exactley. Love the enthusiasm but to many ifs for me.I will always root for the mets but I drank the coolaid for way too long now.I would love to be proven wrong on my opinion.

  16. metsfan4decades

    Who is Frank Catalanatto?
    According to Mattsblog, Mets are pursuing him. I guess I’ll go look him up.
    So now we’re stock piling OFs? Here’s hoping there are no injuries and we’ll need very little of them.

  17. metsfan4decades

    Has anyone read this yet?

    http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/amazinstories/ya_gotta_believe_-_in_warp/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

  18. wannybackstra

    I’ve always liked Catalonotto, a solid veteran hitter and a local guy.

    But I only like him for this time on a minor league contract to compete with Chris Carter in Spring Training. May the best man, young or old, win.

  19. steveo

    All I can say about Catalanatto is why? Just save the money and use it next year or for the next managers salary.

  20. CaseStreet

    Meet the Meche!

    Here’s one guy who is available.

    • Royal flush: You don’t see many major trades in spring training anymore. But the Royals could be a team to watch, because they’ve let other clubs know they’d be “open-minded” about moving Gil Meche or Brian Bannister in the right deal. Of course, both guys have to prove they’re healthy this spring. And at the moment, the Royals wouldn’t seem to have enough starting-pitching depth to make trading away a starter really feasible. But they still appear intent on listening, especially if they get young pitching back.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=rumblings010129

    1. wannybackstra

      As Case and I have discussed before, Meche has an excellent record against NL teams: 14-6, 3.87 ERA in 156 IP. His full interleague line can be seen here:
      http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=mechegi01&year=Career&t=p#oppon

    2. GravediggerHebner

      Why the hell anyone would want Brian Bannister is beyond me. We had to take on a future murderer just to get rid of him.

      I’d be happy to have Meche depending on what they have in mind for the “young pitching” they get back. If we’re talking Eddie Kunz-ish, Bobby Parnell-ish young pitching done and done. If we’re talking Mets # 1 prospect Jenrry Mejia I don’t think it’s worth it because we’ve got people here who can reasonably be expected to give a 4.43 ERA, 1.410 WHIP and 1.81 K/BB ratio. In fact, if I said 4.54 ERA, 1.456 WHIP and 1.86 K/BB I’d be telling you Oliver Perez’ career peripherals.

      1. CaseStreet

        Maybe someone in the middle like, Brad Holt?

        1. GravediggerHebner

          Maybe. I realize what I’m about to say is unrealistic, but for those Perez-like peripheral numbers I’d prefer to trade someone I’ve barely heard of and never discussed, or someone I’ve already seen and have little faith in.

          The Mets are already paying someone $12 mil each of the next two years with those career numbers. The salary parallel is eerie. If anyone told you “the Royals may consider trading Oliver Perez in spring training” would you or anyone be clamoring for the team to get him?

          1. CaseStreet

            considering we’re expecting 07 Ollie, I’d be all in.

          2. Mr North Jersey

            Is it me or does Ollie look like a guy that has been working out with a world class trainer all off season?

          3. stickguy

            considering that place he is at probably goes for 1K/day, he better look like that!

          4. wannybackstra

            Grave: During Meche’s healthiest stretch, 2006-2008, his numbers, including his peripherals, were quite a bit better:

            http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mechegi01.shtml?redir#2006-2008-sum:pitching_simple

            Also, keep in mind Meche’s excellent numbers against NL teams in almost a season’s worth of a sample. Compared to Ollie, who has pitched to pitchers in some of the more favorable pitcher’s parks (SD, Pitt and Shea/Citi), I’d be quite a bit more confident in Meche’s ability, though his health will always be a concern.

          5. GravediggerHebner

            Fair points all. I was just quite taken aback at their exact same contracts and quite similar career numbers.

        2. wannybackstra

          Holt might incite a riot from some Mattsblog readers. But it’s probably not unreasonable considering there are questions about Holt’s ability to start in the majors and there is little question that Meche is at least a league average and probably better major leaguer.

          Maybe KC would like Parnell and a neophyte pitcher like Familia or Kyle Allen. I’d like to trade guys further away than closer if possible. And what would be KC’s rush anyway? Unless that close pitcher is someone like Dillon Gee (who probably profiles similarly to Bannister).

          Mejia would be an absolute no for me.

          1. stickguy

            Don’t dismiss Allen to quickly. From soe of th ereports, he might end up being the best of the bunch. Really interested to see how he develops this year.

  21. DNDJohan aka kistics

    I’m just watching Omar’s interview on Hot Stove.

    Boy.. him and his fake smile is sickening….

    1. stickguy

      Jerry does get on my nerves. Probably a good thing I am out of market, so I actually see very little of him.

  22. Hazmet

    Thank you for almost making me feel better. Great pics. But I don’t see how entering 2009 had more question marks than this year. The starting pitching I would consider as the same question mark between years and this year we don’t know how Beltran, Reyes, Perez or even Santana will come off of surgery this year. Also, I’m not even factoring in Frenchy’s thumb. Last year our starting line up didn’t enter the year with these injury questions other then maybe Delgado’s hip but everyone felt good after the classic that he’d be alright.

    Alright maybe I’m just feeling grumpy because I actually had to attend a Webcast meeting on “how to answer the phone” for an hour yesterday. Oh the joys of working for big business.

    1. GravediggerHebner

      Was “how to answer the phone” anything like this?

      http://www.lilytomlin.com/charns/ernestine/quotes.htm

      “Have I reached the party to whom I am speaking?”

      1. metsfan4decades

        Wish I could say I was too young to remember the infamous Ms. Ernestine….

      2. Hazmet

        Excellent. A One Ringy Dingy.

        You should have seen the flow chart for this thing. Yes, a flow chart for how to answer the phone. My head wanted to explode. I think the only thing better was 2 people dialed in and listened while they were in the bathroom. Archie Bunker was in the house as you could imagine.
        Half the company was doing Jerky Boy imitations the rest of the afternoon.

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