Mar 03
The quasi-Atlanta Braves outlasted the semi-New York Mets in sunny, windy Orlando today 9-5.
The semi-Mets committed 4 errors in the 7th inning leading to 5 quasi-Atlanta runs.
For more information check out the MLB Gameday final score page which has a box score and links to play-by-play.
I googled "grapefruit" and this came up
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53 comments
trs86
3/3/2010-4:09pm at 4:09 pm (UTC -4)
Bunch of pus… ah too easy.
GravediggerHebner
3/3/2010-4:16pm at 4:16 pm (UTC -4)
There are a lot. I’ll leave it to the reader’s imagination.
rustyjr
3/3/2010-4:52pm at 4:52 pm (UTC -4)
is that a picture of robinson cancel?
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/3/2010-5:15pm at 5:15 pm (UTC -4)
LMAO!!!!
ceetar
3/3/2010-4:51pm at 4:51 pm (UTC -4)
That doesn’t look like a grapefruit.
Hey, does a bad spring training start count as a slow start to fire manuel? please?
hard to get worked up about any of it, even the billions of errors. it’s only the second game.
rustyjr
3/3/2010-4:52pm at 4:52 pm (UTC -4)
good to see jerry has the b-squad in mid season form – kidding kidding
metsfan4decades
3/3/2010-5:30pm at 5:30 pm (UTC -4)
That is the cutest picture. Shame on whoever did that to that poor cat – lol.
I don’t think I even know some of those guys who played in today’s game.
Here’s hoping we get to see the ML roster before ST is over…..
Saw a debate on MLB last night where most agreed ST is just too long. Said that the position players only need 2 weeks to get back into the swing of things and start playing as a team. Most were in agreement that ST is all about the pitchers….
rustyjr
3/3/2010-5:40pm at 5:40 pm (UTC -4)
GUYS I GOT MY OPENING DAY TIX JUST ME MRS CANT GO
WHO ELSE IS GOING?
metsfan4decades
3/3/2010-6:06pm at 6:06 pm (UTC -4)
I wish – lucky you!
Have fun and here’s hoping Santana pitches the game of his career so far.
CaseStreet
3/3/2010-7:08pm at 7:08 pm (UTC -4)
thinking about it
darknova306
3/3/2010-8:18pm at 8:18 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll be there. This’ll be my first opening day. Very excited.
metsfan4decades
3/3/2010-6:04pm at 6:04 pm (UTC -4)
Mike Silva over on NY Baseball Digest summed up far better than I could why I don’t like Mike Francesa’s drive-by show. It was in regard’s to his interview with Murphy. He hit the nail right on the head. Just a snipit from the end:
‘You won’t get quality objective analysis, Francesa is far too lazy for that, but rather a collection of biased fan boy agendas. The funny part about the interview is he kissed Murphy’s butt after trashing him all winter. If only he had the guts to say to his face what he will probably reiterate to Joe Caller next week.
Murphy may or may not be a star. To question that is fair game, but to trash the kid as if he is some career replacement level scrub is beyond unprofessional.’
rustyjr
3/3/2010-6:33pm at 6:33 pm (UTC -4)
yeah it will be my first opening day ever — and it took a 90 loss season the secure the ticket lol
metsfan4decades
3/3/2010-7:37pm at 7:37 pm (UTC -4)
The one and only opening day game at Shea I was lucky enough to attend was 1987. Coming off that 1986 WC season I had such high hopes….
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-8:11pm at 8:11 pm (UTC -4)
1983 was my only opening day…a great one…Seaver had returned and pitched six great innings and Sisk (along with Slappy and Benitez one of the three most unfairly abused Mets of all time) threw three 3 great relief innings.
Kingman and Foster scored the only runs and we won 2-0.
They won the next day to start the year in typical misleading fashion—then proceeded to lose 15 of 19 for a 6–15 start!
Hazmet
3/3/2010-8:22pm at 8:22 pm (UTC -4)
Man oh man, hearing Seaver start in ’83 actually made my heart skip a beat at the thought. First, like many my age my favorite Met growing up back in orange and blue, only then to be stupidly left exposed to be picked off the roster. I was so thrilled when he was back and then just disgusted the way that played out. And then the irony of ironies to have him on the Red Sox bench in ’86. WTF.
And you’re right about Sisk, and I admit I cursed him a time or two, but he was alot better than alot of people gave him creit for. And talk about a time warp, one relief pitcher throwing 3 innings to close out the game. It was nice when he returned to the ’86 team anniversary at Shea and got a warm reception. It was like a collective, sorry ’bout that.
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-8:26pm at 8:26 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, I was at that 86 celebration, my one game that year, and that was nice.
Let’s hope in 2030 when they have the 2010 celebration, Slappy gets an ovation!
metsfan4decades
3/3/2010-7:42pm at 7:42 pm (UTC -4)
Did anyone see this over on Hot Foot?
Young Talent Promises to Rekindle Mets Brave Rivalry
The youngsters Jason Heyward of the Braves and the Mets Ike Davis could be fixtures in the Mets-Braves rivalry for years to come.
Ugh…I don’t need to relive that 90′s ‘I hate everything about the Braves’ era.
I wonder who is the heir apparent to Bobby Cox? I have to say though I always admired Cox as a manager – even if I couldn’t stand those Braves back in the day…..
Hazmet
3/3/2010-7:59pm at 7:59 pm (UTC -4)
I was about to add my 2 cents on minor league talent and this was the perfect lead in, thank you. First, heir to Bobby Cox? Hate to say it but it could be the prodigal Met Roger McDowell. I know how could he be prodigal if he never came back.
On the minor league talent, I’m glad you found a positive statement since I just heard on MLB Network how the Mets farm system is barren. I couldn’t believe it. I think the assessment I saw earlier this year that we’re in the middle of the pack was fair. But barren? Give me a break. On a day, where Martinez had a strong game building on his Carribean League MVP, Ike Davis looking strong, Thole having a hit, Murphy being Murphy with a hit, Mejia turning heads all over the place how are we barren? Not to mention Tejada, Flores, Holt, Niese, Nieuwenhaus and other prospects lower in the system I really like what we’ve got to build on.
I know it’s only 2 games into Spring Training and I should calm down put hearing an extreme assessment as “barren” just get’s me going. How many way’s can they find to take shots at our franchise? Here’s to kicking a$$ in 2010 and beyond.
metsfan4decades
3/3/2010-8:15pm at 8:15 pm (UTC -4)
You know, I expect to read comments like that on other teams blogs. Some just drink the Kool-Aid and don’t bother to do their own homework. But I’m surprised at MLB network spouting that.
Yeah, prospects are just that, prospects – until they pan out and are proven.
But I saw over on Baseball Prospectus this morning where they published the top 101 prospects – of which the Mets have 4 on that list. That’s 2 more than the Phillies and Marlins and same number as the Braves and Nats.
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-8:24pm at 8:24 pm (UTC -4)
Were the four Mejia, Davis, FMart, and then one of Flores/Holt/Thole/Tejada??
metsfan4decades
3/3/2010-8:33pm at 8:33 pm (UTC -4)
Bingo.
The are:
#48 – J. Mejia
#80 – F. Martinez
#84 – W. Flores
#87 – I. Davis
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-8:36pm at 8:36 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks again MF4D, First Lady of TRDMB and belle of ANY Met-related ball.
metsfan4decades
3/3/2010-8:44pm at 8:44 pm (UTC -4)
Glad to pass along tidbits I see. As you probably already guessed, I spend lots of time reading baseball blogs.
Hate to age myself but in these days of technology it’s so much more fun to share my obsession with all things Mets with other Met fans. Back in the day, all I had was the Star Ledger stories, mostly just weekend televised Met games and a handful of family Met fans….
Hazmet
3/3/2010-8:56pm at 8:56 pm (UTC -4)
Oh goodness this sounds familar. I’d live for the weeks when the Mets might actually make a “This Week in Baseball” segment. How sad is that. As much as I just commented on how so much media can be maddening today it’s so wonderful to have the ability to blog away and have so much in the way of stats at our fingertips.
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-9:00pm at 9:00 pm (UTC -4)
I am right there with you both—Dan Castellano of the Star Ledger was my God as a kid, and yes, a Met clip on This Week in Baseball was indeed a thrill in the late 70s and early 80s!
darknova306
3/3/2010-8:34pm at 8:34 pm (UTC -4)
I think the thought of our system being barren started a few years ago when there wasn’t much real talent at the top levels of our system. The guys we’re excited about now were either not drafted yet or were in the very low levels of our system, just starting out.
They decided to latch onto that mantra that our minor league talent is thin even when these guys (Thole, Holt, Mejia, Davis, etc) started to really develop. This kept the lowlife sports writers and worthless hack talking heads on TV from having to do any real work. Obviously it’s too early to expect all these guys like Davis and Thole to be the cornerstones of our future, they’re still developing, but they look like they could be serious contributors. We’ll see.
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-8:38pm at 8:38 pm (UTC -4)
“They decided to latch onto that mantra that our minor league talent is thin even when these guys (Thole, Holt, Mejia, Davis, etc) started to really develop. This kept the lowlife sports writers and worthless hack talking heads on TV from having to do any real work.”
OMG I love it when other people write stuff like this.
Thank you!
Hazmet
3/3/2010-8:39pm at 8:39 pm (UTC -4)
Exactly, 100% in agreement. And it didn’t help that with Tony B the philosophy was to rush talent through the system. So there was a rebuilding of the system combined with a rushing of the talent so it looked like there was no talent and the talent we drafted was no good. When in reality, they’re only now just getting ready to break on the scene at the higher minor leagues or the bigs.
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-8:21pm at 8:21 pm (UTC -4)
LOL! You sound like me! I like it!
Mejia is quickly turning into one of the game’s best prospects. 210 minor league innings, 160 hits, 205 K, and SIX HR–six gopher balls in 210 innings for a teenager? Not even Doc touched that stat….that is badass. And FMart, Davis, Holt, and Thole, among others, are looking good as well.
They will continue to abuse us, as it makes for good ratings…the only way to stop it is to win. I really think we are going to surprise a lot of people.
The thing I REALLY hope for is that if they do indeed have a good year, that the players remember how the Rosenthals, Olneys, Klapishes, Francesas and the rest of the lazy, sensationalist parasite media folks trashed them all offseason, with Olney and Rosenthal even clearly publishing total lies about the team’s finances. I hope Wright and Reyes and Johan tell them to go blow when they are kissing up for interviews when they are winning.
On the other hand, LeBron James is good. He sure would look awful purty in a Net uniform next year. I hope Jay-Z can swing it.
Hazmet
3/3/2010-8:35pm at 8:35 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks for the compliment, sounding like you. I try to keep myself tempered, but believe me when I tell you I froth continually over this type stuff. I just try to not let it get the better of me. For year’s I maintained the position that nothing anyone could write or say could surpass the pain this team could inflict on its fanbase itself. But today, with the Media being so large and repititious it’s overwhelmingly annoying. It’s alway’s the same storyline over and over pounded into the ground as if there’s not even the slightest chance of something different occuring. The only way to break the cycle is to win. So here’s to shutting up the talking heads and winning big in 2010.
Of course not those David Byrne Talking Heads, maybe I’ll get my big suit ready.:)
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-8:41pm at 8:41 pm (UTC -4)
LOL! Thank YOU, and thank you again for migrating here.
Honestly, I try very hard to avoid the major sports media, and rarely listen to Francesa (I listened for 3 minutes driving home today; just enough time for him to say something about the same old Mets today making errors while the glorious Yanks hit a game-winning late HR).
I never read Heyman and Klapisch and their type but see them here just enough for them to still infuriate me!
Hazmet
3/3/2010-8:47pm at 8:47 pm (UTC -4)
What could I do? Nobody else would have me
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-9:01pm at 9:01 pm (UTC -4)
Ah, as one of the folks who was proudly banned from From What I Can Gather Dot Com, I assure you that you are in fine company my friend!
ceetar
3/3/2010-10:11pm at 10:11 pm (UTC -4)
I wouldn’t bank on the Braves being good enough to be a consistant threat.
trs86
3/3/2010-10:13pm at 10:13 pm (UTC -4)
True, their pitching will have to be great because I don’t think their offense will hold up especially post Chipper.
stickguy
3/3/2010-9:22pm at 9:22 pm (UTC -4)
Perceptions (aka “common knowledge”) are hard to change, and usually lag reality. especially when the people parroting them have an agenda, or are just too lazy to do some research or deep thought.
Heard the same thing on XM this afternoon. Jody Mac (the one guy you know will be fair to the mets!) and Jim Bowden, discussing adrian gonzolez. Good discussion overall, but when they got to possible matches, Bowden had to toss out how the Mets can’t play having no farm, yada yada yada.
Still better than the caller that wanted to trade Wright for A Gon. That was interesting.
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-9:27pm at 9:27 pm (UTC -4)
Part of what you missed last week when I had my spirited discussion with Whataputz was his repeated insistence that he would take, along with Ryan Zimmerman, Mark Reynolds over Wright as third baseman. Yes, really.
Yes, this is what I was baited into angrily arguing with.
The float is amazing by the way; there will be two steering wheels so we can both drive, just like a big fire truck.
GravediggerHebner
3/3/2010-9:52pm at 9:52 pm (UTC -4)
I’m glad you reminded me of that. I arrived that night after many comments had been deleted and was trying to piece together the discussion but given the disarray just gave up but now that you remind me I do remember reading the suggestion about rather having Mark Reynolds because after I read that I went to baseball-reference and compared them.
Basically the 1 thing that Mark Reynolds has as a positive over Wright is that he has once hit more than 40 home runs. Well 2 things if you care that Reynolds is 9 months younger.
But everything else, Wright wins over Reynolds. For career batting average .309 to .257, OBP .389 to .338, SLG .518 to .500 and therefore OPS .907 to .839, OPS+ 136 to 110 (and Wright’s career low OPS+ was 123 in 2009 which is Reynolds career high number).
Reynolds has hit 30 doubles (career high) once, Wright has hit 40 or more 4 times and 39 another, Reynolds over 100 RBI once, Wright 4 times, Wright has stolen over 20 bases 3 times, Reynolds once, Wright has received MVP votes (19th, 9th, 4th, 7th) in 4 seasons, Reynolds once (20th).
In their careers, Wright has led the league in 1 thing, sacrifice flies with 11 in 2008. Reynolds has also led the league in 1 thing and he’s done it twice – strikeouts, with 204 in ’08 and 223 last year.
Reynolds has made 74 errors in 3,256 innings at 3B, Wright has made 109 errors in 7,457 innings at 3B.
So basically the pro-Reynolds argument is “he’s 9 months younger and once hit over 40 HR” otherwise there is no argument Wright destroys him in every aspect of the game.
The thing that stands out the most to me is that by the measure of OPS+ Wright’s worst full season in the majors equals Reynolds best full season. That to me equals game, set and match for Wright by almost every possible objective measure and has nothing to do with any sort of overrating by any fan (except overrating Reynolds by disgruntled Mets fans).
trs86
3/3/2010-9:55pm at 9:55 pm (UTC -4)
Yup, Zimmerman may be a different story just because to me he is incredible defensively. I would just go get him and move Wright to 1B. LOL.
GravediggerHebner
3/3/2010-10:03pm at 10:03 pm (UTC -4)
Zim at least gets to stay at the table for the discussion, Reynolds has to go sit with the kids and eat off a tray in front of the TV.
Zim still has a ways to go offensively though in BA and OBP, plus he doesn’t run (more than 4 SB in a season once). But he certainly is a better and more well rounded offensive and defensive player than Reynolds and given that he’s 2 or so years younger may become the cream of this crop.
trs86
3/3/2010-10:06pm at 10:06 pm (UTC -4)
Hey I gotta stand up for my UVA guys. But last year Zimmerman to be 24 was very impressive. .292 .364 .525 .888 with 33 HR with Washington? Like I said to me what changes the story with him is his defense.
Funny thing is that Wright, Reynolds and Zimmerman are all from the same area.
GravediggerHebner
3/3/2010-10:13pm at 10:13 pm (UTC -4)
Zim is definitely impressive, a hell of a lot closer to Wright than Reynolds. But even Zim with 4 full seasons under his belt has only had one that is Wright-like offensively and that without the steals.
If he takes about 20 more walks and steals about 10-15 more bases he will be Wright offensively.
Defensively I think by most measures Zim wins (he has better range and makes fewer errors), but as of now he’s still behind offensively. Given his youth I can see him overtaking Wright in a few years overall. I just don’t see Reynolds doing it. He may hit 40-50 HR but unless he stops striking out like mad and not getting on base other ways HR alone do not a great 3B make.
Hazmet
3/3/2010-10:25pm at 10:25 pm (UTC -4)
The other thing I consider is Wright has proven he can put up numbers in NY. There is nothing that says that these other guys could cut it here and post those numbers. Totally different animal in NY. Zim, yeah I think he could.
metsfan4decades
3/3/2010-9:31pm at 9:31 pm (UTC -4)
Wright for AGonz? And that would accomplish exactly what? LOL.
If that was a proposed trade, I’d have to vote no. As much for this fact as anything else: I believe DWright should be a star player his whole career and it would be nice to see if we can have one other Met who starts and finishes his career with the Mets other than Ed Kranepool.
I believe we had a post a little while back debating the merits of trading a star for a star. To be exact, most believed it’s hardly ever done in the day and age.
stickguy
3/3/2010-9:38pm at 9:38 pm (UTC -4)
they were at least nice to the guy, and tried to put it down in a taking it serious manner.
They never got to his 2nd proposal. Beltran and a bunch of cash plus some prospects for him.
wannybackstra
3/4/2010-11:00am at 11:00 am (UTC -4)
All things being relatively equal you take the the 3B over the 1B because of position scarcity alone.
stickguy
3/3/2010-9:33pm at 9:33 pm (UTC -4)
Veering to a different topic (jumping off my last post).
A Gon would be a perfect fit (the missing piece?) right now to make this lineup a force (not that he will change the pitching!)
he is also being wildly overrated.
Sounds contradictory I know. But, while I think he is a good player and a talented hitter, he is a 1B, which is not a premium position.
Some of the discussion (like Bowden) was about the huge, giant, gut the farm packages you have to give up for him. And I just don’t think he is that good.
Especially since his agent already set the bar at a Teix level contract. Besides being overpriced, that takes him well past 35.
Still, having him hitting 4th? Yowza. Or I guess, like having Delgado back when he was going good!
although Last year really was good. Funny, it was his age 27 (aka the breakout year) season.
And guess who is going to be 27 this year? David Wright.
And until 2009, A Gon never had a year with an OPS as high as DWs 3rd best.
Man, I hope wright has a giant year.
Kingman 26
3/3/2010-9:39pm at 9:39 pm (UTC -4)
Psst—wanna continue your theme–look at his home/road splits–comical….is this a fit for Citi?? He is Dante Bichette in reverse.
trs86
3/3/2010-9:51pm at 9:51 pm (UTC -4)
Citi is a hitters park compared to SD.
According to baseball reference Petco produced
.227 .313 .348 .661
Seriously, is that even right?
.261 .330 .400 .730 for Citi.
trs86
3/3/2010-9:47pm at 9:47 pm (UTC -4)
His agent can set that price all he wants. He will get a Bay type contract at BEST. He’s just not Tex.
stickguy
3/3/2010-10:17pm at 10:17 pm (UTC -4)
Who knows what he gets, especially with the Yankees likely out of the bidding! Also has to get 2 more years in (and older) to even be a FA.
But I bet he gets more than Bay.
Actually, his age 28 and 29 years at 5mill per look like a great deal.
age 30-35 for 6/120+ look a lot iffier.
Hell, trade for him now and dont worry about an extension. Get 2 years of relatively cheap production, offer arb, andif you can’t sign him to a reasonable extension, take your 2 picks and start over.
Hazmet
3/3/2010-10:18pm at 10:18 pm (UTC -4)
I also saw something questioning his real age. I was surprised to see that. Anyone else hear that? If so, that would certainly drive the price down right off the bat.