Anyone following Twitter this morning knows there is a panic over Reyes being a late scratch from today’s lineup. Finally more updates are coming. They don’t answer the question why but at least we know what.
This from Mike Puma: Reyes scratched from Mets lineup for doctor’s appointment
“Reyes said Thursday after a second round of blood work that he feels fine and it’s not related to the torn hamstring that sidelined him most of last season.”
“They do the tests because they want to make sure everything is fine,” Reyes said.
As I stated this answers the what. Blood work as part of a routine physical. The why is yet to be determined.
66 comments
GravediggerHebner
3/4/2010-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
Having had blood drawn a lot in my adult lifetime I know there are many reasons for requiring additional blood to be drawn and most of them are not signs of the apocalypse.
The doctors/nurses could have underestimated the amount they needed for the tests they were running, the nurses could have not filled the vials well enough, the patient could have had a low blood flow that day making drawing difficult which requires multiple attempts on different areas of the body leaving you with little holes and bandages on multiple areas of your body, the people actually conducting the tests could have dropped a vial or otherwise accidentally contaminated the sample in many benign ways, so on and so on.
ceetar
3/4/2010-10:36am at 10:36 am (UTC -4)
I don’t go to doctors, but yeah, that all makes sense.
Or the nurse could’ve tripped and dropped the vial, or one of the tests got contaminated and they need to rerun, or he has high cholesterol and they want a second test, or ..
Just one of the many administrative things that gets done. He’ll get plenty of games before the season.
metsfan4decades
3/4/2010-10:59am at 10:59 am (UTC -4)
Dead on, Grave. Could mean anything.
I once had to repeat an MRI because the first one was ‘inconclusive’. Inconclusive? What does that even mean? Headed back to the MRI center and when I asked the tech what inconclusive could really mean, he looked me dead in the eye and said ‘in your case, what it means is the tech handling the results spilled coffee on it’. Then he apologized.
Meaning, they had to say inconclusive otherwise my health insurance company was not paying for a second one…..
darknova306
3/4/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
Maybe a vampire got into the samples…
Kingman 26
3/4/2010-10:39am at 10:39 am (UTC -4)
Please listen to Grave…my very healthy brother recently had to go back to his doctor because a nurse screwed something up on routine blood work.
99% chance that this means LESS than nothing and very possibly might not even have anything to do with Jose’s health at all.
CaseStreet
3/4/2010-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
god, so we can’t rosterbate anymore that we now have to start speculating on any little thing?
How many days till opening day?
GravediggerHebner
3/4/2010-10:48am at 10:48 am (UTC -4)
32,000,000,000,000
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/4/2010-11:07am at 11:07 am (UTC -4)
I hope Beltran will be ready for the Opening day…..
CaseStreet
3/4/2010-11:12am at 11:12 am (UTC -4)
points are nice, but I prefer cash
Kingman 26
3/4/2010-10:52am at 10:52 am (UTC -4)
I am up for more lineupbation.
ceetar
3/4/2010-10:55am at 10:55 am (UTC -4)
speaking of lineupbation, I kept seeing the ‘making of’ documentary on CNBC during the olympics about the SI swimsuit issue. We could talk about that lineup..when’s that come out anyway?
GravediggerHebner
3/4/2010-10:58am at 10:58 am (UTC -4)
It is done. Do not click on this link in mixed company.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010_swimsuit/painting/
ceetar
3/4/2010-11:00am at 11:00 am (UTC -4)
Shows how up on this stuff I am.
CaseStreet
3/4/2010-11:15am at 11:15 am (UTC -4)
can’t ever have too much lineupbation, especially if you have others to lineupbate with you
GravediggerHebner
3/4/2010-11:27am at 11:27 am (UTC -4)
Circle lineup!
CaseStreet
3/4/2010-11:42am at 11:42 am (UTC -4)
LOL
njstuckintx
3/4/2010-11:04am at 11:04 am (UTC -4)
Surprised no speculation that this is Fed related. Not that I want it to be, mind you. Just saying.
Mr North Jersey
3/4/2010-11:17am at 11:17 am (UTC -4)
give it time I know be gone with mr wilpon’s blog is writing something up as we chat.
trs86
3/4/2010-11:04am at 11:04 am (UTC -4)
Again, my issue is just communication. How is it that the doctors can’t let the Mets know about routine blood work the day before instead of the day of?
ceetar
3/4/2010-11:05am at 11:05 am (UTC -4)
Maybe this is the day before? Maybe the Mets said “Hey, let’s just get this over with. He doesn’t really need to play in a game today, just fit him in.”
trs86
3/4/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
Then why have him in the lineup to start with? That’s my point. To “scratch” him from the lineup shows either that they did not know what was coming or something came up.
Mr North Jersey
3/4/2010-11:12am at 11:12 am (UTC -4)
he was scheduled in the lineup as far back as yesterday and based on tweets alone he was reported in the lineup at 6:30amthis morning.
Mr North Jersey
3/4/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
exactly, maybe they just found out and the Mets had him go down as soon as they were made aware which happened to be this morning.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/4/2010-11:16am at 11:16 am (UTC -4)
But if this was so routine, it couldn’t be done after the game? I just think the timing could’ve been better
Mr North Jersey
3/4/2010-11:20am at 11:20 am (UTC -4)
I am not one to go to doctors but isn’t blood work best collected early in the day preferably before the person has eaten anything?
metsfan4decades
3/4/2010-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
Depends on what the blood test is for. Some require fasting for X amount of hours, some do not.
metsgirl31
3/4/2010-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
Good point
Kingman 26
3/4/2010-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
Of course.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/4/2010-11:30am at 11:30 am (UTC -4)
But then this would’ve been known yesterday for Reyes to not eat anything. And not last minute ‘let’s get it over with’.
Mr North Jersey
3/4/2010-11:43am at 11:43 am (UTC -4)
You are assuming way too much.
We have yet to know what the timeline of events are.
The most plausible scenario is the Mets called early this morning (by early I mean before 8:00am) and said Reyes needed more blood work for a-b-c reason. The Mets then informed Reyes to go down and get it done a.s.a.p. scratching him from today’s lineup to do so.
Could he of played today after giving blood? I don’t know. I can see where maybe the Mets have a medical routine where players don’t play for 24 hrs after giving blood.
Point is it is early in S.T. so there are ample games left for Reyes to play in.
The lack of communication thing I don’t get because one is assuming the doctors knew way ahead of time and told the Mets at the last possible moment and we have no idea when they actually knew Reyes needed blood work to be acting like there was a lack of communication.
GravediggerHebner
3/4/2010-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
I respect your right to be far more concerned with the minutiae of Jose Reyes’ blood work than I am. Nothing about Jose’s having to come out of the lineup of a spring training game to facilitate a blood draw bothers me at all.
I am far more concerned with the issue Wanny brings up below. As far as this blood of Jose’s today, I’ll be far more concerned with that if the Mets hold a press conference later to announce some mysterious detrimental medical condition that Jose has, but until that hypothetical future event I just can’t get excited about the test process and logistics.
trs86
3/4/2010-11:25am at 11:25 am (UTC -4)
I am not really concerned with the blood work itself. More concerned with the timing and communication. Just don’t see how a routine blood test suddenly comes up resulting in a lineup scratch. How did they not know until this morning that he would need to be out?
GravediggerHebner
3/4/2010-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
I put forth what I believe to be perfectly plausible reasons for it in the previous thread and this one. I can only do so much to alleviate this concern. At this point, there is nothing more I can do except to say I respect your right to have it but I don’t share it and I don’t agree with it.
metsfan4decades
3/4/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
I don’t know. There in FL so they’re dealing with a different medical center than they would be during the season. Maybe they’re not as ‘dedicated’ to treating the team as the NY centers are.
Kingman 26
3/4/2010-11:16am at 11:16 am (UTC -4)
Remember when you rightly got on me for totally overreacting to the Matthews trade?
While this is a totally different issue, I must respectfully return the favor here.
trs86
3/4/2010-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
I am not panicking on it Kingman. I just think it could have been handled differently and shows a lack of communication. There may have been great and perfect communication but it certainly does not look that way when you have a player scratched from the lineup for a routine blood work exam.
Kingman 26
3/4/2010-11:26am at 11:26 am (UTC -4)
Gotcha.
Mr North Jersey
3/4/2010-11:24am at 11:24 am (UTC -4)
Agreed and believe me I being one that was killing the Mets organization all Winter and in my opinion I don’t think this is that big a deal based on the information we currently have.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/4/2010-11:35am at 11:35 am (UTC -4)
But if you consider all the crap that surrounds the Mets organization, it is kinda big deal. ‘Reyes scratched from the lineup to get blood work done’ is a very sensitive matter, don’t you agree? So, I just feel that it would have been handled in much better way.
Kingman 26
3/4/2010-11:39am at 11:39 am (UTC -4)
No, it really isn’t a big deal.
Some of us are just so desperate for anything to complain about, that we seize on anything.
I was very guilty of this when we traded for Matthews, and I now feel silly about it.
When, as is almost certain to happen, we find that this test was due to one of the reasons Grave mentions above, many of us might feel very silly.
This has less than nothing to do with the Mets’ public relations/doctors/organization in all likelihood and is very possibly the mistake of a nurse or a lab technician.
Let’s move on.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/4/2010-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
It could be that this is a mistake of a nurse or a lab OR it could be STD or cancer. Who knows? I don’t care about that. What I care about is the fact that this was made into a big deal and Mets FO once again brought unnecessary attention to themselves.
If you feel this is nothing, why let everyone in the world know about it when there’s the injury and HGH stories are surrounding Reyes?? You know the media will jump all over this, so why would you let it happen? Do you really need this crap in Mets ST camp this year? Isn’t there enough crap to deal with this ST?
trs86
3/4/2010-11:56am at 11:56 am (UTC -4)
I kinda agree. My thing is why did they have him in the lineup to start with? That means they did not find out about the blood work until today. Why did they not find out until today?
Mr North Jersey
3/4/2010-12:06pm at 12:06 pm (UTC -4)
Wow I think it has tried to be explained why this as it currently stands shouldn’t be a issue.
For me this is another GMJ scenario where fans were losing a gasket me included. In time hopefully people will calm down and all this is much ado about nothing.
Or maybe there is a cover up and Reyes was subpoenaed by the FBI to give blood and the Mets tried to hide it as a random blood work excuse. Next MLB will step in and investigate the Mets for trying to cover it up and they will suspend Reyes for 30 days and the sky will turn black and the Mets new slogan will be not “prevention & recovery” but “Listen & communicate”.
LoL you can see where I am going with this by now I hope.
trs86
3/4/2010-11:54am at 11:54 am (UTC -4)
LOL, yes chief.
I promise I am not over reacting and I don’t think the blood work is a big issue. To me it just LOOKS like lack of communication.
Kingman 26
3/4/2010-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
Gotcha, and don’t call me chief!!
ceetar
3/4/2010-11:06am at 11:06 am (UTC -4)
just for fun, something I stumbled across I had posted on 4/1/2008 out of the Mets Press Notes (It was the regular season, if you remember it started early..
“The club has decided to honor unique angles from players who not only put on the Mets uniform but also featured rare talents off the field …Dyar Miller, who pitched for the Mets in 1980-1981, will be the first player to be so honored…In 1980, Miller was 4-0 in cow milking contests across the league…Miller will be recognized prior to the Mets-Nationals game on May 14th when New York holds its’ first annual Farm Night at Shea…Miller will reenact his cow milking skills prior to the game.â€
wannybackstra
3/4/2010-11:11am at 11:11 am (UTC -4)
I don’t know about anyone else but it when it comes to this Dr. Galea in Canada, I’m inclined to think that where there’s smoke there’s fire. It makes no sense for so many athletes to have visited this guy to have their blood put in a laundry machine. And with A-Rod’s involvement, I’m all the more suspicious.
trs86
3/4/2010-11:16am at 11:16 am (UTC -4)
Agreed.
GravediggerHebner
3/4/2010-11:16am at 11:16 am (UTC -4)
I think this topic you bring up here is a much more serious and worrisome topic than why Jose had to be removed from a lineup today for a blood draw. Perhaps that the word “blood” is involved in both topics has lead to some confusion in some quarters.
wannybackstra
3/4/2010-11:20am at 11:20 am (UTC -4)
No confusion. I was just freelancing!
I’m not concerned at all about Jose’s blood test right now. I’m more concerned that Dr. Galea (anyone thinking of Tony Garea?) will eventually spill the beans on Reyes, Beltran and dozens of other players as HGH users.
GravediggerHebner
3/4/2010-11:25am at 11:25 am (UTC -4)
I was not in any way suggesting you were confused and I apologize for the implication. What I failed at was attempting to show my praise that you had been able to separate the two Jose Reyes blood related topics and to put what I consider to be the appropriate emphasis on the “other” one.
njstuckintx
3/4/2010-11:27am at 11:27 am (UTC -4)
You know, if this is going to blow up, everyone should just come forward and say, yeah, I took HGH. The number of players who do use HGH must be closer to 100% than 0%. If everyone is doing it, the whole “tainting the game and skewing the numbers” thing will be moot.
Granted, it will probably drag out just as long as the whole steriod thing did, multiple press conferences, “I didn’t know I was taking that”, “I’m truely sorry”, etc. etc. and this will be a morning discussion on ESPN for more than a few months. Sigh…
metsfan4decades
3/4/2010-11:31am at 11:31 am (UTC -4)
Have to agree with your statement that probably more have used HGH than have not.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/4/2010-11:39am at 11:39 am (UTC -4)
Yeah.. it’s just tiring to hear more of this crap. I really hope that the upcoming CBA would have testing for HGH so we can stop hearing about this crap.
njstuckintx
3/4/2010-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
They are already putting in blood testing for the minors, so it’s only a matter of time.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/4/2010-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
That’s exactly what the Mets FO should’ve considered before making this ‘going to the doc’ thing public. Why bring in more unnecessary attention?
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/4/2010-11:19am at 11:19 am (UTC -4)
As much as I hate to admit, I agree with you. So why is Reyes getting blood work done today right before his ST debut in midst of all this HGH stuff?
wannybackstra
3/4/2010-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
I doubt it is related since the MLB collective bargaining agreement does not permit such testing.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/4/2010-11:22am at 11:22 am (UTC -4)
But what if FBI summons his bloodwork?
wannybackstra
3/4/2010-11:25am at 11:25 am (UTC -4)
I don’t believe they can.
metsgirl31
3/4/2010-11:26am at 11:26 am (UTC -4)
I imagine if that’s the case then the players union would ferociously fight that request and/or subpoena and then everyone would know about it.
njstuckintx
3/4/2010-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
I’m suspicious as well. Not that there is much to warrant us taking Mets PR info as truth.
metsfan4decades
3/4/2010-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
I’m normally very cynical but I saw all three interviews asking about this (ARod, Beltran, Reyes). The only one that wasn’t totally forth coming about it all was ARod. He answer was a little too cryptic – well a lot cryptic. He wouldn’t say one way or another what his involvement was. Now that could be b/c he’s learned anything he says on the subject of illegals is gonna be put through a microscope and the other two, not so much, but….
Can’t it be this doctor and/or assistant was providing some players with HGH but not all players that were being treated there for injuries?
I know with Jose, they specifically said a Met medical rep was with him all times he was treated.
I guess time is gonna tell on this one.
ceetar
3/4/2010-11:40am at 11:40 am (UTC -4)
The thing I cling to is that both Beltran and Reyes had very limited interaction with the doctor that fits with the “can you treat my injury? Let’s try. nope? oh well.”
I mean, sure they could’ve been taking HGH while they were there as part of the treatment. It’s certainly possible, and Beltran _did_ return last season, but it seems unlikely given the short time frame, that this was the case.
Mr North Jersey
3/4/2010-11:33am at 11:33 am (UTC -4)
Wow were up to 51 posts already in less than 90 minutes.
Good day for blogosphere Fans are out for blood.
Mr North Jersey
3/4/2010-12:30pm at 12:30 pm (UTC -4)
How funny is this?
http://twitter.com/MetsWFAN/statuses/9982490093