According to Adam Rubin on Twitter, Jose Reyes will not play again today.
Assuming the panic that would start, he tweets soon after stating that a team official has said it is NOT baseball related. Lets hope its nothing serious both personally or physically.
and let the comments begin!
Twitter Updates:
lenno212 #mets cobbling together news conference to explain Reyes situation.
KBurkhardtSNY Further review of Jose Reyes’ tests showed thyroid imbalance. Going to NY for further tests.
Audio Update:
Ed Coleman
Friday, March 5th – For a second straight day Jose Reyes has been scratched from the lineup. After speaking to Reyes and Mets’ officials, Eddie Coleman tells us why.
Or rather Wright?!? } – 
71 comments
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:07am at 11:07 am (UTC -4)
This tweet disturbed me:
lenno212 Reyes sitting on clubhouse floor, on phone, while teammates taking BP. No explanation on why not playing today.
Paints a picture of a guy getting some bad news and trying to sort it out from afar.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:09am at 11:09 am (UTC -4)
Agree, I just hope yesterday and today are NOT related.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:08am at 11:08 am (UTC -4)
Lost in all this:
Poor Jose Reyes. All he could talk about was getting back on the field. Comes out in the intrasquad game and opens up with a triple. Now scratched yesterday for surprise blood work and then whatever this is today.
prismo
3/5/2010-11:09am at 11:09 am (UTC -4)
lenno212 #mets cobbling together news conference to explain Reyes situation.
prismo
3/5/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
Inbalance in thyroid levels. (what?)
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:13am at 11:13 am (UTC -4)
Yeah.. I don’t have much knowledge on this. But means we won’t see him play for a week. Flying to NY, tests on Monday, 48 hours for results sounds like.
prismo
3/5/2010-11:14am at 11:14 am (UTC -4)
But if he has that…imbalance…what does it mean? I’m totally clueless on this one.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:16am at 11:16 am (UTC -4)
I have dealt with Thyroid problems myself, but it’s fairly easy to deal with unless it’s cancer. I would not be worried too much if it’s the issue with the thyroids.
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
I know a friend that has a thyroid imbalance and it’s not really a big deal, but I don’t think that’s the same thing.
My future brother in law did end up having part of his thyroid removed at one point, but it was outpatient procedure and not something that would DL Reyes.
I guess we’ll see.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
Sounds like Reyes is speaking with the mighty Mets PR people.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:14am at 11:14 am (UTC -4)
So ok docs what does this imbalance in thyroid levels mean and how could it affect Reyes?
Kingman 26
3/5/2010-11:19am at 11:19 am (UTC -4)
http://women.webmd.com/guide/understanding-thyroid-problems-basics
And what Kistics says above seems very wise to me as well.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
Hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid) is a condition in which your thyroid gland produces too much of the hormone thyroxine. Hyperthyroidism can significantly accelerate your body’s metabolism, causing sudden weight loss, a rapid or irregular heartbeat, sweating, and nervousness or irritability.
Several treatment options are available if you have hyperthyroidism. Doctors use anti-thyroid medications and radioactive iodine to slow the production of thyroid hormones. Sometimes, treatment of hyperthyroidism involves surgery to remove part of your thyroid gland. Although hyperthyroidism can be serious if you ignore it, most people respond well once hyperthyroidism is diagnosed and treated.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:24am at 11:24 am (UTC -4)
So it is hyperthyroidism for Reyes?
trs86
3/5/2010-11:25am at 11:25 am (UTC -4)
Based on tweets yes.
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:25am at 11:25 am (UTC -4)
yes.
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:25am at 11:25 am (UTC -4)
and given that he’s well versed with doctors, i doubt this is something that was ‘ignored’. So hopefully it’s just another doctor, a procedure or not, and just a minor roadbump in his MVP season.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:22am at 11:22 am (UTC -4)
I’m no doctor, but I have had some thyroid issue myself.
There are basically two types of thyroid disease
Hyper Thyroidism (my case)- Your thyroid becomes too active and your metabolism and other bodily activities become hyper. You lose weight and become tired easily, etc. I took meds and it was easily corrected. You would need ‘radioactive iodine’ treatment to actually kill the disease (along with parts of your thyroid), but that can wait till offseason and you recover within days.
Hypo-Thyroidism – Opposite of Hyper-thyroidism. Treatment is much easier and no procedure is necessary.
I think tough part might be to figure out at what dosage of meds the thyroid level goes to normalcy. But I’m pretty sure it can be figured out pretty easily. I’m not sure what impact it would have to his baseball activities, but from my experience, it did not impact me at all on everyday activities.
metsfan4decades
3/5/2010-11:26am at 11:26 am (UTC -4)
I’ve dealt with the Hyper Thyroidism myself back in my early 20s. Suffered for 10 years with it. I used to be very underweight (ah, the good old days) and it reveresed itself just fine once I put on weight and was no longer underweight for my height.
But Hyper T. can morph into Grave’s disease which is harder to treat and can be way more serious.
Hopefully, a little meds will quickly get him back on track.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
Grave’s disease can be a problem with the eyes. But I think with the Meds, it can go away too.
metsfan4decades
3/5/2010-11:39am at 11:39 am (UTC -4)
Yes, best case scenario.
But if the Grave’s disease is an underlying symptom of a more serious disease and it’s treatment, it’ often harder to treat. I have a friend with that problem – radiation treatment for cancer caused the Grave’s disease and the problem with the eyes popping out of the socket became so severe they had to do surgery on them.
Not nearly implying Reyes has any of these same problems. It’s just that any Thyroid disease can sometimes be a symptom of other health problems, not an out of whack thyroid on it’s own.
prismo
3/5/2010-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
It’s hypo. HYPO!!!
metsfan4decades
3/5/2010-11:33am at 11:33 am (UTC -4)
You’re saying Reyes has Hypo – not Hyper?
Saw above where it was reported as hyper…..
trs86
3/5/2010-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
Every tweet so far has said Hyper. Anyone actually hear the conference?
KBurkhardtSNY
Reyes just spoke. Hyperactive thyroid – not allowed to do any activity until more tests. Omar to talk soon.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:38am at 11:38 am (UTC -4)
Hypo is much easier to treat
trs86
3/5/2010-11:39am at 11:39 am (UTC -4)
Man someone needs to figure this out. There is a BIG difference. Hypo, not a big deal at all.
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:41am at 11:41 am (UTC -4)
I think Prismo was hoping, not reporting.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:45am at 11:45 am (UTC -4)
Quite a few tweets coming in now that it is HYPO. Trying to get it clarified.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:31am at 11:31 am (UTC -4)
The only problem that I see is that it takes couple weeks to a month to figure out whether the Hyperthyroidism meds are working or not. In my case, I was showing a little bit of allergic reaction to first meds, so it took little longer.
But here’s the thing, I lost about 20lbs in 1-1.5 months with Hyperthyroidism and it took me 2-3 months to get the thyroid level to normal level. But from what I’ve heard Reyes came into the camp similar to last year’s weight. So I don’t think his imbalance level is as bad as mine was. So, I think he should be ready for Opening day.
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:33am at 11:33 am (UTC -4)
too much uncertainty to even speculate, but i would tend to agree. And the reports seem to say ‘may have’, so maybe his numbers aren’t _that_ much above normal?
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:38am at 11:38 am (UTC -4)
Yes there are uncertainties, but from my experience, I really did not have any problem with daily activities. I don’t know how it would affect Baseball activities especially at the professional level though.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:27am at 11:27 am (UTC -4)
Man it just seems the Mets can not catch a break at all. Beltran should be back by now but problem came up late. Reyes they find out about this in ST. As always you hate to say it but it’s like waiting for the other shoe to drop.
At this point don’t you think they have to make a move for a SS for just in case? Cora is not an option in my opinion. I read that Lugo may be on the block.
metsfan4decades
3/5/2010-11:30am at 11:30 am (UTC -4)
So many ‘shoes’ have dropped in the last year hard to think there can be any left….
Not for nothing, but wouldn’t F. Lopez have filled that spot as backup far better than Cora? And yeah, I know it’s too late….
stickguy
3/5/2010-11:58am at 11:58 am (UTC -4)
one of the reasons I kept on harping signing him. Best case for the Mets was it turned out to be overkill. Worst case, of course, is staring Cora at SS.
ALthough I think you see Tejada, or didn’t they pick up another SS in a MiL deal?
trs86
3/5/2010-12:00pm at 12:00 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, just think it may be time to see if there is a guy like Lugo that could be had for depth in another slot. Something like Misch, Green, etc.
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:30am at 11:30 am (UTC -4)
Not until after the tests, I don’t think there are very many situations that would actually derail Reyes from starting the season.
I know there is no such things as curses (And the 21st century has been working hard to prove that), but random taxi cab accidents, falling down stairs, random thyroid issues..etc. Maybe it just seems like random bad luck when it’s not really that uncommon?
Ojeda cutting off the tip of his finger..didn’t Cone end up with some bizarre injury in ’87 or ’88?
trs86
3/5/2010-11:36am at 11:36 am (UTC -4)
Yeah I guess the thing is this stuff happens to other teams and we just don’t hear or pay attention but man sometimes I wish I was not paying attention.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:40am at 11:40 am (UTC -4)
I seriously doubt Reyes won’t be ready for the Opening day.
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:42am at 11:42 am (UTC -4)
Agreed but it means he won’t be active again for a week. Taht’s still plenty of time but much past that and you reach the point where he might not have his timing down. Sorta like how Beltran is supposed to be fully healthy before Spring Training ends but has to do “baseball activities” until he’s ready to play.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
That’s true, but this isn’t any injury. Timing issue maybe a problem for couple days or even to a week. But Reyes have been working for awhile now, so I think he should be okay.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:43am at 11:43 am (UTC -4)
While you may doubt it can we take the chance of Cora being the opening day starter at SS?
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
I really don’t want to deal with the intense speculation taht will happen if someone gets word taht he Mets are negotiating with “so and so SS”
trs86
3/5/2010-11:49am at 11:49 am (UTC -4)
True but we may have to bite the bullet. Come out and say we think Reyes will be fine and we are always looking to add depth.
tkfj
3/5/2010-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
Lol this team is cursed.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:42am at 11:42 am (UTC -4)
Minaya says the team’s Florida doctors cleared Reyes during yesterday’s physical, but their team doctors in New York later double checked an requeted further testing, and so he’s traveling back north.
Again this just screams lack of communication.
Escobar cleared then uncleared.
Krod cleared then uncleared.
Reyes cleared then uncleared.
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:44am at 11:44 am (UTC -4)
On the other hand, it also suggests a good amount of double checking, and verification. I think the Escobar thing was mostly rumor and speculation.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:48am at 11:48 am (UTC -4)
I am not saying that there even was miscommunication. It’s the fact that the appearance is still there. You would think after last year every effort to make it seem like people are on the same page would be made.
metsfan4decades
3/5/2010-11:44am at 11:44 am (UTC -4)
Thought that maybe SNY would have an update on this right now but when I put it on, it’s an infomercial for Brazil’s Butt Lift – LOL.
trs86
3/5/2010-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
OK so right now we don’t really know if it’s Hyper or Hypo. We are going based on what Reyes said. Reyes said his thyroid is working too much so that would lend you to believe HYPER?
ceetar
3/5/2010-11:58am at 11:58 am (UTC -4)
think Omar confirmed hyper at this point right?
trs86
3/5/2010-11:59am at 11:59 am (UTC -4)
From what I gathered, lol, he just confirmed an imbalance.
njstuckintx
3/5/2010-12:00pm at 12:00 pm (UTC -4)
Tulo just jumped Reyes in the Fantasy rankings…
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-12:03pm at 12:03 pm (UTC -4)
Good time to get him cheap
stickguy
3/5/2010-12:03pm at 12:03 pm (UTC -4)
At least it isn’t the knee. And it certainly didn’t look like he was melting away. SO hopefully this is (if anything) at most a minor or borderline case? For the fans sake, I hope so!
and if it is something that has been lurking, wonder if it helps explain wearing down in September every year?
But, being the Mets, I will not be surprised by anything that comes next with this case. Alien babies, running off with Octomom, anything is in play.
stickguy
3/5/2010-12:05pm at 12:05 pm (UTC -4)
And man, I really wish they had just gotten Lopez when he was going pretty cheap, just for insurance.
COra can’t play SS everyday. So that means a pick up (assuming of course they have to prepare for Jose being out at all), which is undesirable, or Tejada. Or did they pick up a guy out of another teams minors too? Or was that just a C?
metsfan4decades
3/5/2010-12:11pm at 12:11 pm (UTC -4)
So caller just on WFAN – claims he’s a med student says:
‘Issues with Thyroid levels can be related to HGH use.’
Que the conspiracy theories…
njstuckintx
3/5/2010-12:18pm at 12:18 pm (UTC -4)
Sigh… no good can come from this. If he rips it up, it’s HGH related. If he goes ill or DL, its due to the HGH.
Just when you thought Ringling Bros. had finally left town, they are back and with more attractions than before.
Maybe they can get a VW beetle and make it look like a NY Apple and that would be how the team could get onto the field. Car pulls out by pitchers mound, all 9 guys come scurrying out. I know it’s not that bad, but it’s like they are looking for new and exciting ways to derail my enthusiasm.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-12:25pm at 12:25 pm (UTC -4)
From what I can gather, I have never taken HGH and still had hyperthyroidism.
metsfan4decades
3/5/2010-12:15pm at 12:15 pm (UTC -4)
WFAN reporting minimum mid week before Reyes resumes baseball activities.
Mr North Jersey
3/5/2010-12:25pm at 12:25 pm (UTC -4)
Listening to the news coming out about Reyes you just hope 1st and foremost that Reyes comes out healthy and he goes on to have a full and active life.
Now having said that we have to wonder if where there is smoke there is fire?
1. Reyes hurt for most of last season.
2. Reyes entering last year before free agency.
3. FBI questions Reyes about a DR. he visited linked to HGH.
4. Reyes misses a game for more blood work due to initial result findings.
5. Reyes flies to NY because NY Doctors want to run further tests on a Thyroid condition.
6. Speculation begins if Thyroid condition and HGH have a connection.
7. ????
You just hope this doesn’t go any further than this.
ceetar
3/5/2010-12:31pm at 12:31 pm (UTC -4)
At this point, let’s just have him healthy and playing Opening Day. I don’t even know if i care if he took HGH. (although as if he did, he probably didn’t until he was injured and met this doc, and given the thyroid thing, probably didn’t take it before, and won’t continue to take it. So he’s pretty safely ‘clean’ for the future right? If he didn’t take it, hopefully he’s aware that HGH is bad for someone with his condition, or bordorline condition)
trs86
3/5/2010-12:33pm at 12:33 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, no fair to speculate if he took it or not. Just gotta hope he returns well and quick.
Mr North Jersey
3/5/2010-12:34pm at 12:34 pm (UTC -4)
MLB is missing out bigtime they should be doing a reality series on following the Mets. We would be raking with all the drama we can come up with.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-12:54pm at 12:54 pm (UTC -4)
LOL that’s a great idea… following Omar
Mr North Jersey
3/5/2010-12:46pm at 12:46 pm (UTC -4)
I agree with you on this Ceetar “let’s just have him healthy and playing Opening Day.”
As far as caring if any Met ever took illegal drugs I’d be a hypocrite if I told you I didn’t care when I condemned everyone else in MLB that got caught doing so.
Man, can’t wait to just get Reyes back on the field next Wednesday and beyond all this talk about thyroids.
metsfan4decades
3/5/2010-12:43pm at 12:43 pm (UTC -4)
Coincidently, I’m in a surgeon’s waiting room yesterday when a pamphlet catches my eye. It’s: ‘Helping Yourself Heal – Understanding how your body’s natural growth factors may help accelerate the healing process.’
It’s all about this blood spinning technique Reyes had done.
It says:
Autologus Platelet Concentrate enriched with growth factors (APC+) is one tool used by surgeons to help improve surgical outcomes.
APC+ is made from a small sample of your own blood. The process concentrates the platelets found in the blood sample. These concentrated platelets contain huge reservoirs of growth and wound healing factors. Growth and wound healing factors are natural components of your body. Clinical data has shown that growth and wound healing factors may enhance and accelerate your body’s normal healing process.
******************************
So…..any chance this APC+ process he had done has resulted in the thyroid being out of whack?
saltygary
3/5/2010-12:44pm at 12:44 pm (UTC -4)
If you Google “HGH and Thyroid” there are tons of articles. Many of them suggesting that HGH use improves Thyroid Gland functions. Purely speculation but it may be possible that Reyes found out he had a Thyroid condition and was instructed to see that Canadian doctor. If you were Reyes and knew that this treatment would assist in this condition, help his body to get in baseball shape and that the MLB can’t accurately test for it, wouldn’t you take it? Hell yea I would if I was in his position.
This better not be another crap storm for this organization. All the chatter has been “look how great Reyes looks”.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/5/2010-12:49pm at 12:49 pm (UTC -4)
What I can tell you guys from my experience, Reyes will not miss any extended period of time if the problem is Thyroid. Even if he is required to get it removed this offseason (which I highly doubt), it’s an outpatient procedure and the doctor told me i can go back to my work on Monday if I get the procedure done on Friday. But the surgery can definitely wait till offseason. It took me 4 years for the docs to finally say ‘let’s do something’.
I just think this is just very unlucky chain of coincidences.
wannybackstra
3/5/2010-4:53pm at 4:53 pm (UTC -4)
I think hypothyroidism (low thyroid hormone production) can be caused by increased testosterone levels. I may be wrong and it may very well be that the inverse is true and that hypothyroid causes low testosterone but if the former is correct it will result in some suspicion.
Conversely, hyperthyroid causes low testosterone levels and would appear to be the less suspicious of the two.
trs86
3/5/2010-4:55pm at 4:55 pm (UTC -4)
Hmmm, so would in fact there be a case for the use of testosterone to treat a hyperthyroid?
wannybackstra
3/5/2010-5:10pm at 5:10 pm (UTC -4)
It is usually treated with either beta blockers or iodine.
I wish there was someone here who could confirm what it is I think I recall about hyper/hypo or could understand the medical literature better.