You know , last night I was giving great thought to the musings of General Jerry Manuel and to be quite honest if he is off his rocker. You see I work for a heavy metal band that is currently in hibernation right now called Shango, and they have a song called “ Head “. The song starts out with the bassist/ singer Tony proclaiming ” I have little men – and they are running around inside my head !” The song is about being indecisive, I feel the same can be said of Jerry and his lack of cohesive managing style . We saw last year how if you fell into disfavor with his ( see Ryan Church, Ramon Castro) who were banished from the team. If you were a rookie that he was less than enamored with – see Nick Evans and Daniel Murphy (to a smaller extent) being buried late in the season when the games meant nothing and could have gotten much needed experience were usurped by the likes of Cory Sullivan and Fernando Tatis because in his own admission was ” playing for his job“, then knowing if this team is on the line wouldn’t you be kind of leery about his infatuation with Jennry Mejia that is bordering on obsession ? It is well known that I am dead set against Mejia starting the season with the Mets. I feel he would be doing Mejia a disservice if he rushed him up before he has mastered AA or even AAA hitters. I feel that it is possible that Ike Davis is showing enough to make the team out of camp based on the poor springs that Murphy and Mike Jacobs are having, and I do believe that Tejada might be the best stop gap short stop until Jose Reyes comes back ( although Alex Cintron is tearing the cover off the ball at AAA Buffalo) . But I just have a feeling that Jerry is feeling the pressure and he is willing to gamble with both Mejia’s arm and psyche in order to keep his job. But you have to ask yourself this question if Mejia does come north and he suffers control problems and gets rocked, Do you think he will lose his confidence if faced with demotion joining the littered highway of failed Mets pitching prospects ? Or will he have enough mental toughness to pick himself up , dust himself off and become the pitcher that has been advertised as the second coming of Dwight Gooden? Note to Jerry Jerry if you  fail it will not only be your job – you will always be known as a loose cannon who sacrificed a prodigy just to save your ass !
                                                                                         
                                                                        ” Use your head Jerry !!!”
And with that said ….. HERE COMES THE INFAMY !!!!
Happy Birthday Tommy Davis !!(1939) Tommy was a all-star outfielder with the Los Angeles Dodgers, before being traded to the Mets in ’67. In his lone year with the Mets he raked , hitting .302 with 16 homers and 73 r.b.i’s. He was unhappy being on a losing team so the Mets granted his trade request, sending him to the Chicago White Sox for future Mets legends Tommie Agee and shortstop Al Weiss (I do believe the Mets go the better part of that deal ).
Happy Birthday wishes go out to the pride of the Brooklyn Marlboro Houses – shortstop Shawon Dunston (1963) Shawn is widely known as a Chicago Cub, but in ’99 he was traded to the Mets during their pennant push, and he helped propel the Mets with a .344 batting average . Unfortunately he cooled off in the NLCS as the Mets lost to the Atlanta Brave.
New York Mets traded utility man , Bill Almon to the Philadelphia Phillies for minor league pitching prospects Shawn Barton and Vladimir Perez on March 21, 1988.
And don’t forget while you are watching March Madness today – There are just 15 Carlos Beltran days until the Mets open the 2010 season against the Florida Marlins at Citi Field.
98 comments
GravediggerHebner
3/21/2010-3:34pm at 3:34 pm (UTC -4)
When I see that picture of Jerry “holding a gun to his own head” I am reminded of Cleavon Little from “Blazing Saddles” and his famous “Do what he say, do what he say!” speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I
rustyjr
3/21/2010-3:39pm at 3:39 pm (UTC -4)
i know – the power of bing – except I think if the mets get off to a slow start – us huddled masses will tell him to shoot lol
trs86
3/21/2010-5:51pm at 5:51 pm (UTC -4)
Excuse me while I whip this out.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-3:41pm at 3:41 pm (UTC -4)
btw guys adam rubin is leaving the daily news
Hazmet
3/21/2010-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
Just throwing this question out there:
If it’s in Jerry’s character to risk Mejia’s development to help save his job did he stab Willie in the back to get the job in the first place?
I didn’t think so at the time, but after seeing how he kept Nick Evans off the field at the end of last year and his pining for Jenry this spring I’m more apt to think so now.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
im not into conspiracy theories – i think willie sunk himself with playing the race card, being paranoid with the media and not being able to motivate his team, Jerry was there to give advice and i feel that jerry would have been stupid to throw willie under the bus cuz jerry could have been under those wheels also
stickguy
3/21/2010-4:06pm at 4:06 pm (UTC -4)
jerry should have been under there with him.
ceetar
3/21/2010-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
probably.
Jerry during his first week basically came out and said he’d do things in a way that was opposite of the way Willie was being criticized for. The Problem is he didn’t follow though. (such as setting defined bullpen roles)
He spent most of last year cracking jokes and sucking up the media. He’s pretty good at saying what people want to hear, but that part is completely separate from being good at doing the things that make the team actually good.
But the bloom is off the rose for a lot of you. He’s touting the rookies because those are the positive stories. Rookies always have a free ride in the sense that if they struggle, it’s not quite their fault yet, and Jerry’s hoping to ride that out. If the rookies fail, it’s not necessarily his fault and he can still say the team is better for it, but if he says Murphy can get it done, and the team fails anyway…then, he’s screwed.
GravediggerHebner
3/21/2010-3:58pm at 3:58 pm (UTC -4)
I have no idea if he stabbed Willie in the back or not, I think those prone to support Willie (or to dislike Jerry) assume he did and vice versa.
I think in general any field manager with a former field manager as his bench coach must have in the back of his mind the possibility that this is the guy who may replace him, whether that person is actively trying to get the job or not.
I think one thing Jerry’s fascination with Mejia does is dispel the notion that Jerry doesn’t like rookies. He certainly has a doghouse, but being a rookie or not is not what puts one in it in my opinion.
Rusty notes this idea of Jerry playing Tatis over Murphy to save his job. First off credit to Rusty for inserting the phrase “to a lesser extent,” I did not overlook that, but given that Murphy played in 155 of a possible 162 games last year, starting 124 of them including starting 24 of the final 30 games of the season, I don’t think there is a strong case for the notion of the rookie-specific doghouse.
ceetar
3/21/2010-4:16pm at 4:16 pm (UTC -4)
Tatis started every single game against Lefties though. Every one. And most of them, he stunk in. Even when he was grounding in DPs left and right, and Murphy had had a good game yesterday.
stickguy
3/21/2010-4:19pm at 4:19 pm (UTC -4)
he certainly could have given Murphy some more Abs against lefties. that would have been beneficial. or given them to Evans. That would have shown something.
But, not in Jerry land. More tatis ABs was what we needed to plan for 2010.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-4:51pm at 4:51 pm (UTC -4)
i knew what i meant to say – poor choice of words i remember us howling about murph not getting at bats against lefties wen jerry said he would so …
GravediggerHebner
3/21/2010-5:25pm at 5:25 pm (UTC -4)
When it comes specifically to Jerry’s use (or lack thereof) of Murphy against lefties I think that point is much more valid and well supported than a general anti-rookie bias.
I think then what it comes down to is what future does (or perhaps more appropriately, what future did last September) the organization have in mind for Murphy? While it seems pretty apparent to me that they’re going about trying to replace him sooner rather than later as starting 1B, whether that was their thought last September or not I can’t say.
What I can say is that if that was indeed their thought, they had sound ground to bench him against lefties based on his .223/.267/.415 line against them. If at that time they already had determined he wasn’t the long term future I can see their not giving him those ABs (but I agree with you that they would have been better used by Evans at that juncture than by Tatis).
From my perspective now, whatever their thought process was then is largely moot because it does seem pretty apparent to me that he’s not viewed by them as the long term answer at 1B now.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:07pm at 6:07 pm (UTC -4)
Ceetar go back and look at the stats. Murphy started basically every game from June on. In September Murphy started all but 5 games and sat out about 10 games total in the 2nd half if that.
Tatis started 32 games the entire year at 1B. Considering Murphy was a Rookie that’s not a bad transition at all.
ceetar
3/21/2010-7:11pm at 7:11 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve looked at the stats a lot. There are a billion things wrong with them. Manuel even came out and said his justification for using Tatis is because he was good in 2008(i.e. veteran, and not looking at what’s in front of him). Someone needed to show him a calendar.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:16pm at 7:16 pm (UTC -4)
Again, he barely even used Tatis. Tatis started 32 games at 1B the ENTIRE year and almost none from June on.
ceetar
3/21/2010-7:19pm at 7:19 pm (UTC -4)
May and June are the bigs ones, and there were part-time pinch hitting deals in there that were screwy, it’s not just starts.
(Oh, and so many times itfelt like Murphy would get sat for a lefty, then suddenly pinch hit against one)
He also sorta platooned with Sheffield for a while, which was equally useless.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:22pm at 7:22 pm (UTC -4)
That was way early in the season with Sheff.
As for 1B yeah there were a few times he was pinch hit for late in the game. Why shouldn’t he have been? Until he could prove he could hit LH. He had over 100 AB’s against them last year.
Either way you are upset because Manuel platooned him in May and June but are not happy that he did not in July-September?
ceetar
3/21/2010-7:26pm at 7:26 pm (UTC -4)
The season was over then, and do we notice that Murphy did better at the end of the season as well?
It’s all part of Manuel’s lack of managing skills and how he puts guys in position to fail.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:28pm at 7:28 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, so it’s not possible that Murphy struggled in the 1st half because he was a rookie and did not adjust?
Also the season was not over in early July.
Still missing this, 32 starts at 1B the entire year.
ceetar
3/21/2010-7:31pm at 7:31 pm (UTC -4)
You’re aware that 32 is a lot of games right?
Actually, Murphys numbers (even against Lefties) were pretty good in April. It wasn’t until he stopped getting as many reps against them that he started struggling.
Hazmet
3/21/2010-4:21pm at 4:21 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks for weighing in guys, good read. I’ve never been a big Jerry fan and I just don’t like having him be the guy guiding rookie transition to the bigs when they move up. His Jerry being Jerry cannot be a very settling influence for the youngsters.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-4:25pm at 4:25 pm (UTC -4)
I agree somewhat with your comment.
Since Jerry has been manager has there been any young prospect that we can say has benefited from Jerry’s guidance?
A simple quote anywhere?
All I can come up with was what apparently what Jerry whispered to Mejia in camp this Spring. He supposedly told him to concentrate on one side of the plate or something similar to that.
If that has anything to do with Mejia’s control I don’t know.
ceetar
3/21/2010-7:08pm at 7:08 pm (UTC -4)
The only thing I’ve ever heard anyone say good about Manuel is “He’s more open and talks to me more.” Brilliant, he can open his mouth. We knew that.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-7:15pm at 7:15 pm (UTC -4)
LOL
stickguy
3/21/2010-4:16pm at 4:16 pm (UTC -4)
wasn’t willie king of the bury the rookies concept?
And not playing younger guys to see what they could do in September really ticked me off about Jerry. Not the only thing, but organizationally, that should be a fire-able offense. Although that would require the FO telling him not to I guess.
But as to the question, to me, a big, big reason to send back to AA is Jerry. I really, truly believe that he will grab onto any player to get a win, regardless of future risk. That is, he will burn out anyone to save his a$$, and not care if he is out of BB at 23.
He used parnell just about every day last April, didn’t he?
And we know that he lies like a rug, so spouting off about breaking him in slow, Jennry rules, etc. is so much hot air.
Omar though has to get any blame if the experiment fails. Will you really blame Jerry for running Mejia out there 20 times in April if he is getting outs? No, but you sure as hell have to blame Omar for giving him the opportunity.
Hazmet
3/21/2010-4:29pm at 4:29 pm (UTC -4)
Agree with everything here. The only thing on Willie I’d ask is what rookies did he really have to run out there given the guy’s we’re touting now are only just now getting a look and were either nowhere close or even with the organization when Willie was around. Willie did favor the vet’s I believe in part because he didn’t have any options. When he was given a Pelfrey and a Joe Smith he did throw them into the mix. You could also make the case that Maine could be classified as a rook he plugged in once we got him from Baltimore. Willie did have to go but he didn’t have much to draw on from the minors.
stickguy
3/21/2010-4:54pm at 4:54 pm (UTC -4)
maybe I was thinking more about insisting on hitting a rookie 8th. Making him earn his stripes.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-5:05pm at 5:05 pm (UTC -4)
fact of the matter is that jerry is hellbent for breaking training with mejia as his set up man – and i think its a foolish move
stickguy
3/21/2010-5:14pm at 5:14 pm (UTC -4)
But, who gives a crap about jerry? this is Omar (or Jeffy’s) decision. Let one of them step up with the stones to say screw Jerry, we are looking at the best for the LT health of the team, and carefully developing this talented arm as a SP (in the minors for now) is what that means.
trs86
3/21/2010-5:55pm at 5:55 pm (UTC -4)
RIGHT. If Jerry is hellbent it’s because he thinks he is ready, otherwise what is the point? It’s the METS job to decide if he goes north.
asod75
3/21/2010-4:43pm at 4:43 pm (UTC -4)
I think Jerry’s a decent guy but a terrible field manager. He should have played Evans more down the stretch last year. I’m not big on Evans, think he’s not much more than a bench bat (if that) but he needed to be in there, not Sullivan, Tatis and Reed. And I really hope Jacobs doesn’t make this club. Carter could probably give you what Jacobs could (if not more) and strikes out less, plus is more versatile. Yet, Jerry doesn’t play Carter all that much. And the whole Mejia situation is a joke. Just send him down to AAA this season and let him start. If he can’t get it done as a starter, you convert him to a reliever then and only then. Why is so hard to understand?
rustyjr
3/21/2010-4:52pm at 4:52 pm (UTC -4)
agree on the carter asod carter is younger hits for better average and power
stickguy
3/21/2010-5:15pm at 5:15 pm (UTC -4)
3rds on the idea of carter over jacobs.
GravediggerHebner
3/21/2010-5:33pm at 5:33 pm (UTC -4)
I would rather they go with Carter too but here’s the other side to it: they’re trying to win games at the ML level and to fill the role of a power hitting lefty off the bench are they going to plug in the 27 year old guy with 23 career MLB at bats and zero home runs or the 28 year old guy with 1906 career MLB at bats and 4 seasons of 17 or more home runs?
If they’re “looking for a guy to hit them some home runs” they know Jacobs can do it, they can only think/guess/hope that Carter can.
asod75
3/21/2010-6:10pm at 6:10 pm (UTC -4)
Fair enough, but I think Carter actually would give better at-bats off the bench, as he takes walks and has hit for an average, wherever he’s been. Defensively, he’s a minus, but no worse than Jacobs. Would have been nice to see Carter last September (thanks Yanks) although Jerry probably would have just benched him anyway….
trs86
3/21/2010-6:11pm at 6:11 pm (UTC -4)
I could also see the point that Carter has options while they would most likely release Jacobs.
asod75
3/21/2010-6:14pm at 6:14 pm (UTC -4)
Who knows, maybe Jacobs is good for club chemistry or something since he was in the organization before and has played with Wright and Reyes in the minors and majors…..
asod75
3/21/2010-6:12pm at 6:12 pm (UTC -4)
Wasn’t his fault he was behind Papi, Youkilis, Manny and Bay the last few years…..
trs86
3/21/2010-5:54pm at 5:54 pm (UTC -4)
Looks like another bash Jerry parade here. Bash him for on the field decisions and stupid quotes but how all of a sudden are we bashing him for personnel moves? You guys know I am not a Jerry fan but this is getting a little silly. If the METS bring up Mejia (METS not Jerry) then it will be because the METS believe that he is ready. Hell not even Omar right now most likely could make that decision by himself, much less a lame duck manager. When we get a whipping boy we whip the hell out of them don’t we?
rustyjr
3/21/2010-6:00pm at 6:00 pm (UTC -4)
I’m not bashing hm my friend I just am voicing my opinion that be migh be making a mistake if he promotes mejia
trs86
3/21/2010-6:11pm at 6:11 pm (UTC -4)
Not talking about you here specifically Rusty. Just saying that it’s not even close to just Jerry’s decision. The Mets would not give a lame duck manager full reigns over who makes the team. That’s personnel issues and is managed by his bosses.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-6:17pm at 6:17 pm (UTC -4)
I see your point
asod75
3/21/2010-6:07pm at 6:07 pm (UTC -4)
OK then the METS are morons for bringing up Mejia this quickly. Either way, he should be starting in AAA.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:09pm at 6:09 pm (UTC -4)
Most of us on here will agree with that thought. I would guess that if the Mets do indeed bring him up it’s because he is ready and they have seen something that inclines them to bring him up as a reliever. I will have to trust that they know what they are doing even though I will disagree. I just think we have made way to big of a deal out of this. I think there is little chance he makes it but if he does then I will cheer like hell for him and hope he is lights out.
asod75
3/21/2010-6:11pm at 6:11 pm (UTC -4)
Oh I will too my friend, just don’t think the decision would be based on the longterm future of the kid, which is a shame.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:12pm at 6:12 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t think it will impact his longterm future at all. I might mess up his short-term but it’s not like he can’t transition back to starter.
asod75
3/21/2010-6:16pm at 6:16 pm (UTC -4)
See Chamberlain, Joba. Could waste a year as he would have to spend the next year building the arm strength back up. Would rather just keep him starting now where he could help the rotation by 2011, not 2012..
trs86
3/21/2010-6:23pm at 6:23 pm (UTC -4)
Or you could see Halladay, Doc or Santana, Johan to see guys who started in the minors and then came up as relievers only to return to starting. I just think the Yankees botched that situation because of their Joba rules. For every pitcher that it has hurt there is most likely 5 examples of players it has not.
asod75
3/21/2010-6:36pm at 6:36 pm (UTC -4)
Halladay didn’t come up as a reliever, he came up as a starter. In 1998, he lost a no-hitter with two outs in the ninth inning on a homer by Bobby Higginson. Remember watching that game. The next year, they moved him to relief due to ineffectiveness and a few years later he was back in the minors to rebuild his delivery. I’ll give you Johan though, that’s a good example.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:44pm at 6:44 pm (UTC -4)
Still with Halladay, back and forth as a reliever and starter with no permanent damage.
asod75
3/21/2010-6:49pm at 6:49 pm (UTC -4)
True TRS,
Guess I’m overreacting. Just don’t like the idea of a guy with under 200 pro innings on the big club. Wasn’t like he pitched quality AA innings last year, either.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:06pm at 7:06 pm (UTC -4)
Oh I agree Asod. I am just trying to learn to trust the Mets again. I think they made a lot of sound decisions and it’s worth a shot to believe that they know their prospects and what is best for them.
Ultimately I think he does not make the team.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-6:13pm at 6:13 pm (UTC -4)
Oh so will I and I hope he thrives – but the starting rotation is where he needs to be IMO
trs86
3/21/2010-6:23pm at 6:23 pm (UTC -4)
Eventually there’s no doubt. Where it’s possible that we differ is that I don’t think that putting him in the pen now is pigeon holing him for his career.
stickguy
3/21/2010-7:48pm at 7:48 pm (UTC -4)
if you want another example, adam Wainright was a top young P prospect, went to the pen as the closer (I think we all remember this), and back to the rotation, and ended up leading the league in IP in 2009.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:50pm at 7:50 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, I did not use him YET. Wanted to use established guys for long-term effects but he is a perfect example of a guy that so far it has not hurt at all.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-6:23pm at 6:23 pm (UTC -4)
Btw mauer signed a extension with the twins worth 183 mllion according to Mack
trs86
3/21/2010-6:24pm at 6:24 pm (UTC -4)
Good.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:25pm at 6:25 pm (UTC -4)
how many years was it for?
trs86
3/21/2010-6:26pm at 6:26 pm (UTC -4)
The Twins have reached agreement with Joe Mauer on an eight-year, $184MM extension. The agreement was first reported by Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports while the Twins disclosed the contract’s terms – including its full no-trade clause – via press release. The contract will cover the soon-to-be 27-year-old from 2011 through the 2018 campaign.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:28pm at 6:28 pm (UTC -4)
That is good for Twins fans. It’s nice to see clubs retain their best players.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-6:33pm at 6:33 pm (UTC -4)
Somewhere a Yankee fan is crying
trs86
3/21/2010-6:35pm at 6:35 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, now they get AGonz for DH.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:37pm at 6:37 pm (UTC -4)
Hey not just Yankee fans I sure would of liked the chance at acquiring him.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:39pm at 6:39 pm (UTC -4)
Saying this now, but at that price I would have wanted no part in him. He is only worth that kind of money as a catcher and 8 years is a LONG time from now for a catcher. Not knocking Minny. They had no choice.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:41pm at 6:41 pm (UTC -4)
I understand that is a valid point but I’d still would of liked a shot at him.
asod75
3/21/2010-6:42pm at 6:42 pm (UTC -4)
Mauer will be playing third or first at the end of the contract. No way he catches that long, and with a bat that good, no way he should…..
trs86
3/21/2010-6:43pm at 6:43 pm (UTC -4)
True, I would think considering the Mets needs they would have never even gotten in the discussion. If he got this much on a closed market how much does he get on the open market? You think about the same? I have no idea.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:31pm at 6:31 pm (UTC -4)
OK which one of us got a new handle and posted a rational thought at MB?
DreamWork86 March 21, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Things can always change, but right now I think Takahashi should get that 5th starter spot. Niese can get a little more seasoning in AAA and we’ll certainly see him later this season.
As for the bullpen – it agitates me how Green is still said to be a “lock†despite having an option left and not pitching as well as guys out of options. I’d probably go K-Rod, Iggy, Feliciano, Calero, Misch, Nieve. Then there is one spot left between Parnell and Figgy. Parnell can be optioned, but he throws way harder than Nelson and I think he’ll be really good if not overused. Sorry, Figgy.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-6:34pm at 6:34 pm (UTC -4)
Where has queensnative been ? Lol
trs86
3/21/2010-6:36pm at 6:36 pm (UTC -4)
You know, Kingman has said he was going to take a break….
rustyjr
3/21/2010-6:39pm at 6:39 pm (UTC -4)
Nab be hates everything cerro e related lol
asod75
3/21/2010-6:48pm at 6:48 pm (UTC -4)
I still go to MB (old habits die hard) and when I take a gander at the comments, it’s downright comical sometimes. We have discussions back and forth and we may disagree on points, but this is a great meetingplace for true, intelligent Mets fans. There’s some guy named Sylow over there that belittles everybody’s posts, yet his points often don’t make sense. Yet I got banned for lord knows what reason back in the day, probably because I didn’t kiss MC’s arse. Long live the Real Dirty Mets Blog!!!!
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:56pm at 6:56 pm (UTC -4)
Most everyone here still goes to MB. It is a good source for Mets news. I just think the owner is a di** that’s all.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-7:01pm at 7:01 pm (UTC -4)
I wouldn’t say matts a dick – but he did let success go to his head
trs86
3/21/2010-7:02pm at 7:02 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed and is very controlling over HIS product not giving any credit to those who made HIS product successful.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-7:12pm at 7:12 pm (UTC -4)
I would based on a personal exchange.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:03pm at 7:03 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks Asod, you and I often don’t agree but it’s great to actually disagree with the likes of you or Wanny over a guy like Mr. Bill or Alex.
stickguy
3/21/2010-7:51pm at 7:51 pm (UTC -4)
ja ja ja.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:35pm at 6:35 pm (UTC -4)
LoL it’s only rational because you agree with it.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:36pm at 6:36 pm (UTC -4)
Thus it’s rational. Keep up here.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:37pm at 6:37 pm (UTC -4)
But joking aside even if you take out the last sentence about Figgy it would be hard to say that he is not spot on.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:39pm at 6:39 pm (UTC -4)
Yep I only take exception to Calero.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:42pm at 6:42 pm (UTC -4)
Why no Calero? Guy was a stud last year and if he is healthy is a huge addition to the pen.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:43pm at 6:43 pm (UTC -4)
I have yet to see enough this spring to believe he can do what he did last year.
trs86
3/21/2010-6:45pm at 6:45 pm (UTC -4)
True, been pretty solid for 6/7 years in his career. My only concern is health. If he is healthy then he may be our best candidate for setup man.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:54pm at 6:54 pm (UTC -4)
How is it a guy that is as you describe a stud in 2009 and has been good for 6 or 7 years as you describe is not signed till a few weeks ago and is signed to a minor league contract?
I agree after last season he is a safe risk to take I just haven’t really seen or read anything to suggest he deserves to go North with Mets yet.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:04pm at 7:04 pm (UTC -4)
Ask Biemel. Calero said he had about 12 teams talking to him but thought the Mets were his best chance and wanted to pitch in NY.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-7:14pm at 7:14 pm (UTC -4)
You missed the point. I don’t doubt he had interest but how is it after having a stud year the best he could do is a minor league deal.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:25pm at 7:25 pm (UTC -4)
Ask Biemel. These middle relievers have a tough time. But yeah a lot of teams were concerned about a potential injury. He is pitching now and appears to be on schedule so for now the injury does not concern me. He was scheduled to go back to back days.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-7:27pm at 7:27 pm (UTC -4)
That is why I need to see more from him before I just hand him a spot on the roster.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:29pm at 7:29 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, I am not saying that if he sucks you just give it to him. However, I think most assume that if healthy he is making the team.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-7:31pm at 7:31 pm (UTC -4)
Again I am not debating if he is making the team or not. I am replying to your question of why I am not ready to give Calero a spot on the roster.
trs86
3/21/2010-7:52pm at 7:52 pm (UTC -4)
understood.
Mr North Jersey
3/21/2010-6:38pm at 6:38 pm (UTC -4)
lol as long as you agree.
rustyjr
3/21/2010-6:40pm at 6:40 pm (UTC -4)
Somebody here doesn’t have man crush on the figster lol I think u doth protest too much trs lol
trs86
3/21/2010-6:40pm at 6:40 pm (UTC -4)
Right. Because I agree it must be rational.