TODAY’S GAME
Mets vs Braves, Tradition Field, Port StLucie, 1:10 p.m.
TV: SNY/ESPN / Radio: None /
MLB: Gameday
| NY Mets | AVG |
| Cora, SS | .308 |
| Castillo, 2B | .281 |
| Wright, 3B | .241 |
| Bay, LF | .357 |
| Murphy, 1B | .133 |
| Francoeur, RF | .194 |
| Mathews Jr, CF | .321 |
| Barajas, C | .308 |
| Perez, P | .000 |
Bullpen: Sean Green, Jenrry Mejia, Ryota Igarashi, Bobby Parnell, Pat Misch
…………………………………
| Atlanta | AVG |
| Cabrera, RF | .300 |
| Prado, 2B | .355 |
| C Jones, 3B | .391 |
| Glaus, 1B | .444 |
| McCann, C | .478 |
| Y Escobar, SS | .355 |
| Diaz, LF | .294 |
| McLouth, CF | .029 |
| Hanson, P | .000 |
…………………………………
283 comments
asod75
3/23/2010-2:54pm at 2:54 pm (UTC -4)
Mejia in
asod75
3/23/2010-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
Broken bat roller by Escobar, 95 MPH
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
Sure now the gun doesn’t miss a pitch. I smell conspiracy.
trs86
3/23/2010-2:56pm at 2:56 pm (UTC -4)
Big difference in how Gary spoke about what Manuel wanted out of Mejia. Did not say no breaking pitches. Just thought he was throwing too many breaking pitches and wanted him to throw mostly FB.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:00pm at 3:00 pm (UTC -4)
Gary had a scary comment saying this is what he saw last year with Parnell.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:01pm at 3:01 pm (UTC -4)
sorry I was not trying to nest that under you.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:02pm at 3:02 pm (UTC -4)
Be careful where you put that thing.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:03pm at 3:03 pm (UTC -4)
Keith’s reply was that his secondary pitches were better than Parnell.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:09pm at 3:09 pm (UTC -4)
All the more reason why he should be a starter.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:11pm at 3:11 pm (UTC -4)
Long-run yes. I don’t like the idea of BP YET but I still refuse to believe that just because Joba that Mejia can’t return to SP.
asod75
3/23/2010-2:56pm at 2:56 pm (UTC -4)
Diaz
96 ball one, 96 swing and a miss, 94 fouled back, 95 blows him away
trs86
3/23/2010-2:57pm at 2:57 pm (UTC -4)
Keith singing his praises.
trs86
3/23/2010-2:57pm at 2:57 pm (UTC -4)
Wow, what a curve ball/
trs86
3/23/2010-2:58pm at 2:58 pm (UTC -4)
97 up and in, whew.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
I’m impressed.
asod75
3/23/2010-2:59pm at 2:59 pm (UTC -4)
McLouth
88 split fouled away, 77 curveball taken for a strike, 97 fastball fouled away, splitter 87 low and away, high-tight fastball 96, 94 weak grounder to short
1-2-3, domination. Still wish he was starting, but it’s hard not to be excited right now.
trs86
3/23/2010-2:59pm at 2:59 pm (UTC -4)
Hmmm, last batter they let him work on his off-speed stuff. Keith was talking about how many pitches he has and how polished he looks.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:02pm at 3:02 pm (UTC -4)
well, if he has all these pitches, and looks this polished, why are they screwing around with him in the pen?
Let him be in the rotation. Just skip the whold development process, and go straight to the #2 spot in the rotation.
Not like there is much competition for the job.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:03pm at 3:03 pm (UTC -4)
Great question. I am guessing because at this point they feel he would be more ready for the pen?
asod75
3/23/2010-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
He doesn’t look any less ready for the rotation than Ollie, Pelf and Maine these days, which is a big concern to me.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:10pm at 3:10 pm (UTC -4)
see, that makes no sense. The only reason for the pen was that his FB was ready, but his other pitchers weren’t there yet.
But, if all of his pitches (and control) are working, then it would be a waste to have him in the pen
Would you really rather have Figgy than this guy starting every fifth day?
Oh wait, bad question for you!
Substitute Neive in there.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:13pm at 3:13 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, Taka get it straight.
I think that’s a tough question. They did not say his secondary pitches were completely ready and I am assuming they think his FB at that speed in 1 inning spurts is very effective.
Where some differ is if he can work on those secondary pitches while in the MLB.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:22pm at 3:22 pm (UTC -4)
Pelfrey has been.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:27pm at 3:27 pm (UTC -4)
Very true.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:11pm at 3:11 pm (UTC -4)
there is also a big difference breaking a guy in as the long man (used a couple of times a week) and as a short/set up man, potentially pitching 2-3 days in a row for short bursts.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:13pm at 3:13 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:14pm at 3:14 pm (UTC -4)
At least as the long man, you’re gearing him more to the starting role (which he should be in). Just don’t want this prized arm pitching several times a week and warming up however many times a week. TRS is right, many pitchers have done this successfully (come up as reliever, then started) but I’m still skeptical about it.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:18pm at 3:18 pm (UTC -4)
Neither do I currently but from what I am seeing I think he may be able to handle it. Still don’t like it yet but perhaps… I will say this as much as I want him to become a starter, he could take over for Krod and save us a lot of money too.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:20pm at 3:20 pm (UTC -4)
That would be fine, but we’d need other guys to step up big time, both on the current roster and in the system. One of Familia, Holt, Matz, Urbina, Allen, etc. would need to develop into a No. 1 type starter.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
Because it’s much easier to find a decent closer than a top of the rotation starter.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:23pm at 3:23 pm (UTC -4)
right. A #2 starter is still worth 2x a closer, and about 20x a short reliever.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:26pm at 3:26 pm (UTC -4)
True Asod if he stayed in the pen, which I don’t see, it would require the Mets to go get a #2 (If he can be a #2) or someone to step up. Those guys are out there though.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:27pm at 3:27 pm (UTC -4)
Stick that really depends on how good the closer is and how good the #2 is. LOL.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:00pm at 3:00 pm (UTC -4)
Warming… ducking rocks. Warming….
asod75
3/23/2010-3:01pm at 3:01 pm (UTC -4)
He looks great. I am afraid of overuse though. Manuel is pretty clueless with bullpen management and he overused Parnell early in the year last year.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:03pm at 3:03 pm (UTC -4)
Exactly.
No matter what Jerry or Omar says, I will bet real money that come April, he will be pitching in nearly every game (and up warming in all the others).
Sometimes managers have to be protected from themelves.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:05pm at 3:05 pm (UTC -4)
Especially ones fighting for their managerial lives. That also scares me big time regarding Mejia….
trs86
3/23/2010-3:05pm at 3:05 pm (UTC -4)
True, I would imagine they are smart enough to understand that. I am not as down on their intelligence as most. They do a lot of things I don’t agree with but that does not mean I know more about baseball than they do.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
Sometimes I wonder though….
trs86
3/23/2010-3:10pm at 3:10 pm (UTC -4)
Of course we do. That’s what blogs are made for. But it comes a point that we have to take a step back and realize that they are in charge for a reason and we are not for a reason.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:16pm at 3:16 pm (UTC -4)
Mo Vaughn, I rest my case.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:16pm at 3:16 pm (UTC -4)
David Wright, I rest my case.
?
Huh?
asod75
3/23/2010-3:18pm at 3:18 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah and Vaughn was Steve Phoolips’ acquistion.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:19pm at 3:19 pm (UTC -4)
LoL Yes exactly
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
that’s one reason Philips is no longer in charge.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
I am just confused what this has to do with anything. For every one of those there are just as many or more they got right. Strange names like damn Valentin or Oliver or then again not re-signing Oliver…
Hard to play that game.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:38pm at 3:38 pm (UTC -4)
Sorry I was just insinuating that a move at the time it’s done may look good to the FO but that doesn’t mean it’s the right move. It’s been a while that the club had a pitcher generate such buzz and having seen how they have handled players in the pen the last year it may not be in Mejia’s best interest to throw him in there especially when it is only being considered because of the team’s failing so far to adequately fill the pen.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:44pm at 3:44 pm (UTC -4)
It’s possible it may not be in Mejia’s long-term interest but there is also a greater chance that it does nothing to him long-term.
As for how they handled players in the pen last year, last year is a lost year. I have no idea what course the year takes if we were healthy.
My major point is that this very well could be the right decision and they most likely know more about that decision than we do. We have had this discussion before. We have every right to disagree with the decision, that’s what a blog is for. But ultimately we still have to step back and realize that someone who is in charge of making baseball decisions thought it would be the best for the Mets.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:46pm at 3:46 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed someone who is in charge of making baseball decisions thought it would be the best for the Mets when they got Mo Vaughn.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:49pm at 3:49 pm (UTC -4)
Not saying they never mess up NJ. LOL. But for every bad one there is most likely 3 right ones.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
Let’s hope they don’t mess this one up.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:52pm at 3:52 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed, but they could just as likely screw-up Pelfrey or Reyes.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:53pm at 3:53 pm (UTC -4)
shut your mouth
trs86
3/23/2010-3:54pm at 3:54 pm (UTC -4)
LOL but you get my point.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
that they can just as easily screw up with any player? Yes no doubt about it.
trs86
3/23/2010-4:35pm at 4:35 pm (UTC -4)
Right, so why all the fear with Mejia? LOL. Shouldn’t we be talking about them screwing up Fmart or something?
ceetar
3/23/2010-4:47pm at 4:47 pm (UTC -4)
to be fair, I’m worried he’s screwing up Pelfrey and Reyes too. And Murphy.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-5:25pm at 5:25 pm (UTC -4)
The fear with Mejia is obvious it’s not everyday the Mets get a young kid that has the arm Mejia has. We are not talking about a Brian Bannister here (no offense to Brian) if handled correctly this kid can be special.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-5:28pm at 5:28 pm (UTC -4)
Also I believe when the Mets brought FMart up last year many felt he was rushed also and said as much while watching him play. It was clear the kid was overmatched and he was brought up only due to injuries and the Mets inability to fill the void elsewhere.
ceetar
3/23/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
I’m warming too.
I think it’s better for his development to not throw only fastballs and I’d rather him be a starter.
but you know what? I don’t really care about prospects once 4/5 comes around. It’s not like the Mets future lives or dies on Mejia being a solid starter in 2011 or 2012. If this stunts his development, big deal, the Mets will just have to buy another starter next year. Or maybe Niese is the real deal and Pelfrey finally takes that real step forward. I’m sure Perez will still be here and at least semi-successful. Maybe the rotation isn’t even a big deal next year and a solid setup/future closer is more beneficial.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:23pm at 3:23 pm (UTC -4)
I still don’t see why Mejia won’t eventually be given the opprotunity to start. Hell Parnell got his chance and he really only had one pitch. I am really not concerned about his longterm development. Short-term it could slow him down a little.
ceetar
3/23/2010-3:26pm at 3:26 pm (UTC -4)
that’s the thing, if he’s really for real, he’ll find his way into the rotation, and do I really care that he gets a little bit of a slower start to that if he’s contributing in the bullpen this year?
The thing to worry about is the Verducci pitching progression thing. He won’t get more than 60-80 IP this year if he sticks, which means Nowhere near 200 next year. Of course, I’m not sure the Verducci thing is mroe than a small sample size argument, and the Mets didn’t follow it with Pelfrey, and Mejia could get an extra 10-20 IP in October and there is always winter ball..
trs86
3/23/2010-3:34pm at 3:34 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah that’s true about winter ball. My fear with BP is warming up everyday, however, Leo had his starters throw everyday right?
I see you too are starting to warm to the idea that while we may not agree it’s also not a travesty.
ceetar
3/23/2010-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
The one pitch thing still bothers me a lot, but I’m holding out hope that something silly will happen to get Manuel and Warthen fired without the team absolutely tanking or someone getting hurt or anything like that. And they’re always the chance that Mejia says “screw it” and throws his breaking stuff successfully anyway.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:38pm at 3:38 pm (UTC -4)
Did you hear the comments today? Gary kind of put it more in perspective. Manuel had said he thought he was throwing the breaking stuff too much and needed to throw mostly his cutter because it was a great pitch.
Today he threw mostly FB until the last guy and he let the breaking balls loose. Threw a nasty curve.
ceetar
3/23/2010-3:41pm at 3:41 pm (UTC -4)
Makes me feel a little better.
I don’t have a lot of faith in Manuel’s or Warthens overall pitching philosophys, and I think the Mets have been documented to throw too many fastballs already and I wonder (but certainly don’t know) if some of that is organizational philosophy and not the best way for Pelfrey, others, to grow.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
Possible, these guys have been all over the map though with Willie, Peterson, Manuel and Warthen. Some have done great in spurts for all of them.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:38pm at 3:38 pm (UTC -4)
I think Barajas will call for it anyway. I doubt he cares what Jerry thinks.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:00pm at 3:00 pm (UTC -4)
so it sounds like he is in the pen to stay.
Oh well. Who really needs to develop SP in the minors? Omar will just go out and get what we need in the off season, just like this past one.
Oh wait…
trs86
3/23/2010-3:02pm at 3:02 pm (UTC -4)
Why does he have to stay in the pen? Omar and Jerry both have said that he could return to the rotation.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:07pm at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)
because once Jerry finishes pulling a torre on him (and trashes his arm), he will be lucky to be able to tie his shoes!
That, and if he is successful, they will get fixated on that being his role, and leave him out there.
Oh, and if Jerry or Omar told me the sky was blue, I would want an independant 2nd opinion before I believed them.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:09pm at 3:09 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah I am not to that point yet. I still believe that they know a little bit more about baseball than any of us.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:13pm at 3:13 pm (UTC -4)
there is knowing baseball, and knowing that if the team doesn’t perform over the 1st 2 months you are probably out of a job.
Guess which one leads to short term thinking (like buring out your best SP prospect as a set up man)?
trs86
3/23/2010-3:14pm at 3:14 pm (UTC -4)
Well wouldn’t that then be the rest of the baseball guys jobs to step in? Again, if he makes the team I won’t like the decision but I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as we make it out to be. I also have to assume that the METS think it’s the best move.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:17pm at 3:17 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed. I probably wouldn’t have as many questions about this move if the Mets were coming off successive playoff appearances and had a brain trust that A. had brains and B. I trusted. OK, so it’s not that bad, and I actually like a lot of what Omar has done over the years, but the Mets aren’t what you would call a stable organization…
trs86
3/23/2010-3:20pm at 3:20 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed on the stable organization. However, I don’t think we have to assume that every move we disagree with will backfire and go terribly wrong.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:25pm at 3:25 pm (UTC -4)
True again. These last three years have made many of us very negative, me included. But I will say, the arrival of some of these prospects has me excited. Just want Mejia to be used properly.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:25pm at 3:25 pm (UTC -4)
And you call yourself a Met fan!
Must come from never being in NY.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:32pm at 3:32 pm (UTC -4)
I agree Asod. Most of me wants him to go to AA, it’s the safe move. However, part of me is so pumped about him that I think he brings an excitement they have been missing.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:03pm at 3:03 pm (UTC -4)
Hahaha, agree with you all the way, but I’m resigned to the fact that the Mets won’t do the right thing, so I might as well root hard for the kid to succeed (which I would do anyway). Looks like he has three plus pitches (especially the fastball). Sounds like top of the rotation starter to me and hopefully this is just a one-year thing.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
Might not even be one year.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
This CF race is not clear cut at all.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:06pm at 3:06 pm (UTC -4)
No, not at all, especially since Matthews is a much better defender and smarter player than Pagan. And then there’s F-Mart…
trs86
3/23/2010-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
Not sure I could say that Matthews is a much better defender. At least not statistically.
CaseStreet
3/23/2010-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
It’s pretty simple to me. Start GMJ.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/23/2010-3:05pm at 3:05 pm (UTC -4)
Should we be worried about Murphy?
trs86
3/23/2010-3:06pm at 3:06 pm (UTC -4)
When were we not worried about Murphy?
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:12pm at 3:12 pm (UTC -4)
LOL – I am. And I was pulling for him to do well.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:06pm at 3:06 pm (UTC -4)
The kid looks good but so did Ike Davis and FMart and the Mets did the right thing with them.
Hopefully they do the right thing by Mejia and all this is just to show him off and hype him up.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:07pm at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)
True but it’s possible that they feel those spots are currently covered while the BP is wide open.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:13pm at 3:13 pm (UTC -4)
True, That is what it looks like. It is a shame that is why they are doing this to possibly fill a void in the pen. Had Escobar or Igarashi pitched better we would probably be talking about Mejia possibly coming up as a starter rather than in the pen in 2010.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:16pm at 3:16 pm (UTC -4)
Yup, very true. Omar was praised for taking risk on Escobar and Iggy and so far they are not paying off. It’s early for Iggy and Escobar is supposed to at least begin throwing next week.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:17pm at 3:17 pm (UTC -4)
I’m glad we agree.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:18pm at 3:18 pm (UTC -4)
Also gotta wait on our boy Calero.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
Yea I still have reservations on him.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/23/2010-3:24pm at 3:24 pm (UTC -4)
You never know how Green would work out……….
trs86
3/23/2010-3:28pm at 3:28 pm (UTC -4)
Hopefully he will work out well in AAA.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:27pm at 3:27 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, had Escobar been healthy and throwing well, or if Iggy was dominating, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:29pm at 3:29 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, that’s what we said and I completely agree. But for a team that has aspirations on winning a championship perhaps they should be having this conversation.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:18pm at 3:18 pm (UTC -4)
maybe it isn’t too late to get him in the rotation? Taka in the pen as his caddy. Stock up on long men this year.
And how the hell did you people start thinking GM should be starting? Have a few ST ABs warped the the thinking from when we got him that he was an emergency BU until Carlos comes back, then hopefully trade bait?
If anything, maybe this ST can get him out of here sooner. Let Pridie be the BU CF, and keep Carter as the last OF.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:19pm at 3:19 pm (UTC -4)
Starting for NOW, LOL.
asod75
3/23/2010-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
I just said he’s a headier player than Pagan, but that’s kind of like saying Florida is warmer than Alaska. Pretty obvious. What a dumbass throw by the Atlanta catcher. Nice, two runs on an error.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:22pm at 3:22 pm (UTC -4)
Strange to see Billy in that Braves uniform…
trs86
3/23/2010-3:24pm at 3:24 pm (UTC -4)
Looks like it has always been made for him.
ceetar
3/23/2010-3:27pm at 3:27 pm (UTC -4)
Alpaca-farming hick from Virginia? Yeah, that has Atlanta Braves written all over it really.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
Hey I grew up in SW VA too. It’s not the area as much as it is the mentality.
ceetar
3/23/2010-3:38pm at 3:38 pm (UTC -4)
As a New Yorker (or former one, or whatever), it’s my duty to belittle and mock everything that’s not New York. heh.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:28pm at 3:28 pm (UTC -4)
lol – is that the Southern hick thing?
trs86
3/23/2010-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
Yup.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:26pm at 3:26 pm (UTC -4)
a 3 run HR would be nice right now.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
What the heck was that? lol – we’ll take it!
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:31pm at 3:31 pm (UTC -4)
Heads up play by Wright scoring on the error also.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
Wow the Braves look like the Nats defense (and the Mets last year)
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:31pm at 3:31 pm (UTC -4)
I hadn’t realized it wasn’t Chipper out there at first….
trs86
3/23/2010-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
Compared to Parnell, Mejia should be on the team. Man Parnell needs to go down and develop a way to have a WHIP under 1.5+
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
Looks like he’s throwing that splitter alot today, doesn’t it?
asod75
3/23/2010-3:42pm at 3:42 pm (UTC -4)
Parnell hasn’t looked that bad, some grounders have gotten through. Can’t have the walks, though. Rather have Parnell over Green. But then again, I’d rather Doug Sisk than Green. Santos is a pretty crappy catcher, by the way. Glad he’ll be gone….
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
Gary really diggin on this clubhouse vibe with these players he’s interviewing. Just asked Wright about it.
stickguy
3/23/2010-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
oh well.
Just notice that Jerry has been talking out of both sides of his mouth already about Mejia (big surprise there!)
wanting to build slowly, baby him, look for opportunities to be successful and build on them (sounds like low leverage, short outings).
then he talks about the 8th inning role in the near future.
So, pretty much he pitches opening day, and if he looks good, he will have at least 15 more before the end of April, and be up in the games he doesn’t pitch.
More I get aggrevated by this, the more I think they should just put him in the rotation.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
I still think you are reading too much into it. We don’t really know how he will handle Mejia or how he might be told to handle him. Parnell is a different story, much older and many more innings. Should not have been an issue for “tiring” him out anyway.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:43pm at 3:43 pm (UTC -4)
I guess it comes down to do you trust Jerry with the handling of the pen or not.
trs86
3/23/2010-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
Of course I do not. However, either the Mets do OR they give him rules.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
What is the max innings he’s thrown in one season? He can’t be near what you would need to go the distance as a starter this year, right?
ceetar
3/23/2010-3:43pm at 3:43 pm (UTC -4)
That depends on if you follow Verducci’s formula for IP progression, which the Mets didn’t with Pelfrey.
but no, he wouldn’t be able to start a full season anyway. (Unless you regularly skipped the 5th starter with days of rest, something they shouldn’t do with so many players coming off injuries, and Maine needing extra rest for his shoulder)
trs86
3/23/2010-3:47pm at 3:47 pm (UTC -4)
Right if he came up as a starter right now then in July we got no Mejia.
You could use him in the pen and then stretch him out and still get his innings this year either in the minors or MLB.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:39pm at 3:39 pm (UTC -4)
Passed ball by Santos scores a run – even though Keith says it should have been a wild pitch.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:42pm at 3:42 pm (UTC -4)
It’s now officially called Digital Domain Park – per Gary.
Was just announced. For some reason, Keith thought that really funny.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:43pm at 3:43 pm (UTC -4)
Can we call it Double D for short?
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:46pm at 3:46 pm (UTC -4)
DD it is.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:47pm at 3:47 pm (UTC -4)
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/23/2010-3:44pm at 3:44 pm (UTC -4)
Parnell’s really struggling
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
97 mph strike 3 looking.
If only Parnell could be a little more consistent….
asod75
3/23/2010-3:47pm at 3:47 pm (UTC -4)
Sometimes, he has too much movement for his own good. His fastball has got velocity and a lot of late life. A lot of times it moves right out of the zone, though….
asod75
3/23/2010-3:46pm at 3:46 pm (UTC -4)
Great pitch there, though. I still like Parnell, although he shouldn’t be in high-leverage situations if he makes the team. His stuff looked good today, and he was throwing a lot of groundballs. Some just found holes. I just like power arms in the pen…
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
Funny I just saw the Dear Ike Davis by bleacher report.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:49pm at 3:49 pm (UTC -4)
http://metstradamus.blogspot.com/2010/03/cleared-for-takeoff.html
These pics just made me laugh out loud…
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
I see the Brewers did release Schoenweis.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:55pm at 3:55 pm (UTC -4)
Proctor (who I didn’t even realize was on the Braves) just walked the bases loaded – with 2 out.
Jacobs up.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
Nice. 2 run single 7-4 NY
asod75
3/23/2010-3:57pm at 3:57 pm (UTC -4)
Jacobs 2-run single after three straight walks. I was so excited to see F-Mart come up. It got to 2-0 and the ESPN feed cut out and I got a Progressive commercial instead. It came back after he had walked.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-4:01pm at 4:01 pm (UTC -4)
It’s not easy being Green!
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-4:02pm at 4:02 pm (UTC -4)
lol – Green got robbed. He was out at first.
asod75
3/23/2010-4:05pm at 4:05 pm (UTC -4)
I thought he was safe. Either way, Green got over late. Now, a walk to put runners on first and second. Why is it a given that Green makes this team? I don’t care how much he’s making, let him make it in the minors and work on throwing strikes…
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-4:06pm at 4:06 pm (UTC -4)
What you said…..
trs86
3/23/2010-4:04pm at 4:04 pm (UTC -4)
Gotta get rid of Green.
trs86
3/23/2010-4:07pm at 4:07 pm (UTC -4)
LOL!
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-4:05pm at 4:05 pm (UTC -4)
7 walks in this game so far by Met pitching.
What happened to that ‘throw strikes’?
Maybe it’s me but I just don’t think Green is ever going to be any better than what we’ve seen.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/23/2010-4:16pm at 4:16 pm (UTC -4)
It’s just ST…. LOL
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-4:06pm at 4:06 pm (UTC -4)
For crying out loud. Green just drilled him in the back.
Bases loaded, no outs. Sigh….
asod75
3/23/2010-4:06pm at 4:06 pm (UTC -4)
He hit a batter. Of course he’s just about had 3 hit by pitches this inning, so it’s not surprising. Get out of here, Green!
asod75
3/23/2010-4:08pm at 4:08 pm (UTC -4)
Bullet of a sac fly on an 0-2 pitch. Run scores, runner moves to third. First and third, one out. Misch warming.
asod75
3/23/2010-4:11pm at 4:11 pm (UTC -4)
See Heilman, Aaron…Rodriguez, Rich….Schoeneweis, Scott and Sisk, Doug.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/23/2010-4:17pm at 4:17 pm (UTC -4)
Benitez, Armando…Looper, Braden…
trs86
3/23/2010-4:09pm at 4:09 pm (UTC -4)
Green is another one of those guys that I call a Shoedrop pitcher. Because of past issues you are always waiting….
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-4:11pm at 4:11 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe Figgy can replace him LOL
trs86
3/23/2010-4:11pm at 4:11 pm (UTC -4)
Fine by me.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-4:12pm at 4:12 pm (UTC -4)
GAME OVER METS WIN!!! do we get tacos???
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-4:13pm at 4:13 pm (UTC -4)
LOL.
It wasn’t pretty but we’ll take it.
Good thing this is ST ’cause I never, ever want to see Green in, in the 9th again.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-4:14pm at 4:14 pm (UTC -4)
+100
trs86
3/23/2010-4:12pm at 4:12 pm (UTC -4)
Whew, shoe stays hovering over his head.
GravediggerHebner
3/23/2010-4:14pm at 4:14 pm (UTC -4)
Put an egg in that shoe and beat it!
asod75
3/23/2010-4:10pm at 4:10 pm (UTC -4)
RBI grounder by some dude named Young, runner up to second, now two outs. Green will get the save here if he closes it out, which is why saves are one of the most overrated stats in baseball…..
asod75
3/23/2010-4:12pm at 4:12 pm (UTC -4)
And that will do it, 7-6 Good Guys.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-4:12pm at 4:12 pm (UTC -4)
Ugly game by both teams today.
trs86
3/23/2010-4:13pm at 4:13 pm (UTC -4)
Later guys.
GravediggerHebner
3/23/2010-4:14pm at 4:14 pm (UTC -4)
Gary Cohen: “Sean Green staggers through the 9th inning…” Yup.
Just looking at the on TV screen game summary, without factoring in how it actually happened, it’s nice to see:
W – Igarashi
L – Wagner
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-4:15pm at 4:15 pm (UTC -4)
Grave you have Wags on your team?
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-4:16pm at 4:16 pm (UTC -4)
How do you guys on these fantasy teams root for the likes of players like Vitorino and such? I would feel so disloyal – hahaha. Sorta how I felt last year during the WS….
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2010-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
It’s weird I never did Fantasy baseball just football but I would root for the to do good but just not win the game.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-4:21pm at 4:21 pm (UTC -4)
Ah…I get it now. Must be hard though when the Mets are playing against teams that you’ve got fantasy players on.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/23/2010-4:24pm at 4:24 pm (UTC -4)
I had Hole Camels on my team for ’08 season. When he pitched against the Mets, I wished that the game is a pitcher’s dual and the Mets score late in the game to win.
But then I would sacrifice one bad game over the Mets win anytime.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/23/2010-4:20pm at 4:20 pm (UTC -4)
I can’t quite remember the exact words, but there was a term that someone used during the draft. Something like a ‘meatbag of stats’?
njstuckintx
3/23/2010-4:21pm at 4:21 pm (UTC -4)
As someone smarter than I said, You view them as statistical meat bags, nothing more.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-4:21pm at 4:21 pm (UTC -4)
LOL – that is hysterical. Meat bags…..
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/23/2010-4:26pm at 4:26 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah that was the term.
ceetar
3/23/2010-4:24pm at 4:24 pm (UTC -4)
I try to avoid drafting guys like that.
Otherwise I root for them to get a lot of doubles and get thrown out trying to stretch them into triples, and hope the pitchers throw a lot of Ks but give up a billion unearned runs.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/23/2010-4:30pm at 4:30 pm (UTC -4)
Same here. I have 2 teams this season and I have no Philly guys on both my teams.
But I have like 4 Bravos in one of my team… Escobar, Jurjjens, Heyward, and Hudson.. I was hoping to trade for Reyes by shipping Escobar and Hudson for him, but was rejected.
GravediggerHebner
3/23/2010-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
Not in the TRDMB league, no, but in my other league that plays rotisserie style yes. I also have Carlos Beltran in that other league, no Mets in TRDMB league. In fact, it wasn’t a plan of mine but I only have 1 NL East player in the TRDMB league (Ricky Nolasco).
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-4:23pm at 4:23 pm (UTC -4)
Well, that I would find a bit easier – rooting for AL players to do well.
rustyjr
3/23/2010-5:18pm at 5:18 pm (UTC -4)
just got home guys – listened to mlbatbat2010 – damn those atlanta broadcasters are hicktown honers !!! they didn’t even tell the listening audience that jose was cleared to resume workouts – what jokes they are
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-5:50pm at 5:50 pm (UTC -4)
Well, from some of the comments I read those Atlanta broadcasters couldn’t get Perez’s name right. They probably don’t know who Reyes is – lol.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2010-6:36pm at 6:36 pm (UTC -4)
Brian Schneider gets the walk off sac fly for the Phillies today to beat the Rays.
Valdez had the game winning hit the other day.
Ghosts of Mets past. Here’s hoping they don’t come back to haunt us during the season.
(although I can’t see how anyone would be worried about Valdez or Schneider.)
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