According to Joel Sherman of the NYPost: 3UP: Reyes, Matthews Jr. and Gaudin
“Two major league officials told me the Mets are shopping Gary Matthews Jr., and the Reds could be a possibility.”
Thanks to Metsblog for the link.
Interesting that a trade that Omar was ripped severely for now could net a return of more than they gave up just by allowing GMJR to prove himself during spring training. The fact that a CF with starting experience who is having a good spring training and can be had for 1 million for the next 2 years has to be worth far more than Brian Stokes. We will have to let this one play out but for now this could be another small win for Omar, the kind no one ever seems to pay attention to.
105 comments
stickguy
3/24/2010-9:36am at 9:36 am (UTC -4)
sell high baby, sell high.
although I do remember recently seeing the Reds squash a rumor about GM, saying they had 5 guys on hand they liked better.
But, maybe the good spring could sway some opinions?
If nothing else, if the prognosis on Beltran is favorable for an early return, his play could make them more willing to move Pagan if someone bits. That, and having Martinez lurking in the wings.
njstuckintx
3/24/2010-9:37am at 9:37 am (UTC -4)
Could this be the precursor to a Harang/Arroyo trade?
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/24/2010-9:43am at 9:43 am (UTC -4)
But who do they give up for either of those guys? I would imagine Cincy would want a pitcher back and I could possibly see Maine being dealt, but I would not do that if I were Cincy.
njstuckintx
3/24/2010-9:52am at 9:52 am (UTC -4)
Parnell, Green/Nieve (or some substitute) and GMJ for Harang? Not being a trade master flex nor have I researched the Reds needs, but figure it being somewhat of a salary dump, F-Mart could arguably make the opening day roster anyway and Parnell and Nieve are quite expendable, would they bite? I dunno. It’s a decent salary relief for them and they’d get a cheap CF, BP and 5th/6th man.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/24/2010-10:05am at 10:05 am (UTC -4)
I would think you’d have to give more than Parnell, Green/Nieve. I think perhaps GMJ and Niese could do?
trs86
3/24/2010-10:25am at 10:25 am (UTC -4)
Why trade Niese for Harang? Confused here.
njstuckintx
3/24/2010-10:00am at 10:00 am (UTC -4)
Even if you move Pagan instead of GMJ and it brings back a needed reliable starter, I’m all for it.
rustyjr
3/24/2010-9:46am at 9:46 am (UTC -4)
Who from the starting rotation gets dealt ? Dies neise go to buffalo ?
CaseStreet
3/24/2010-9:50am at 9:50 am (UTC -4)
I don’t see any team trading a valuable pitcher in ST. It’s unheard of.
stickguy
3/24/2010-9:50am at 9:50 am (UTC -4)
Ideally. But who knows, based on the history of this FO and roster management.
mejia in the pen and the annointment of the 5th starter are the 2 dominos to fall that will lead to a whole slew of moves, and potentially losing some pitching depth.
CaseStreet
3/24/2010-9:47am at 9:47 am (UTC -4)
Bad move. Can we wait till’ Beltran is actually playing before thinking about moving GMJ? Or are you 100% sure that Pagan will play healthy?
What happens when you trade GMJ, Beltran has a setback and Pagan runs into a wall? You get F-Mart hitting under the Mendoza line in May.
Plus, why would the Reds or any team trade anyone that could actually help us before the season starts? Last time I checked there wasn’t a surplus of SPers out there. Instead, we’d get a prospect that we’d bury in AAA or some reliever that can’t get anyone out.
No, keep GMJ, let him start (if he’s playing well) and come trade deadline, move him to shore up one of our weaknesses. By then, we should have Beltran back and Pagan can be the 4th OFer he truly is.
ceetar
3/24/2010-9:48am at 9:48 am (UTC -4)
if they trade ‘em before the season we’re basically gonna pay them for the entire season. It’s that whole “choose not to be competitive this year” thing. heh.
but yeah, I don’t see the trade happening before Beltran is at least in rehab games getting his timing back.
rustyjr
3/24/2010-9:49am at 9:49 am (UTC -4)
Good points case
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-9:53am at 9:53 am (UTC -4)
Could they possibly be looking for that 8th inning guy or another lefty out of the pen?
stickguy
3/24/2010-9:56am at 9:56 am (UTC -4)
that would be nice!
stickguy
3/24/2010-9:55am at 9:55 am (UTC -4)
the key is, what do you think GM will do once the season starts (with or without regular PT)?
If you expect him to revert back to his accustomed level of mediocrity, then might as well trade him now if you get a good offer.
Certainly it makes mroe sense to wait until Beltran is back, whenyou have to make a move anyway, but who knows what if any value he will have then.
The only reason for the reds to make that move anyway was to clear payroll. So no idea if that is still an issue.
doesn’t have to be them anyway.
trs86
3/24/2010-10:24am at 10:24 am (UTC -4)
Bingo.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/24/2010-10:19am at 10:19 am (UTC -4)
I think we’ve seen enough of FMart this ST and winter league that he can be a solid contributor in the majors, no? So perhaps that makes GMJ expandable?
I agree with you that no one will deal their SP in ST, but if someone is willing to take GMJ + a prospect for a solid #3 SP, I’ll take it.
trs86
3/24/2010-10:24am at 10:24 am (UTC -4)
I don’t know if that is true about not dealing any SP in ST. I could see the Tigers dealing from their surplus and I noticed the Reds also have a surplus.
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-9:50am at 9:50 am (UTC -4)
Interesting indeed.
I just want to give TRS credit because he showed MC’ BLOG he is the better man and how it should be done. He gives them thanks for the link even though they failed to recognize us for the link when we posted the Photos of CitiFields the other day.
Well Done TRS..jpg)
metsfan4decades
3/24/2010-9:59am at 9:59 am (UTC -4)
Two thumbs up.
I noticed on MC’s new blog format now he no longer has a blog roll. I guess he doesn’t want anyone perusing other blogs and deciding they like those better?
njstuckintx
3/24/2010-10:19am at 10:19 am (UTC -4)
That was one of the only reasons I used to browse his site. I’ve not been over there since he dropped the blog roll.
I know this site started due to said blogger, but isn’t he really just a shadow of what he could have been. I look at it more with pity than with anger. Or, more appropriately, I just don’t look at all.
trs86
3/24/2010-10:22am at 10:22 am (UTC -4)
If he had used his power correctly all of our writers may have been working for him to form a megasite. LOL> Our writers with his media backing
Kingman 26
3/24/2010-10:58am at 10:58 am (UTC -4)
“Our writers with his media backing”
Someday TRS, if you guys keep working like you have been.
If SNY and Met brass compared this site with his every day for a week, which one would come off better?
(It is a rhetorical question; I am pretty sure I know the answer.)
Kingman 26
3/24/2010-11:08am at 11:08 am (UTC -4)
Oh, and yesterday when I was seeking comedy I did find it there—a commenter aggressively suggested trading Reyes for–wait for it—–Guzman!!
So we could “get rid of the head case.”
trs86
3/24/2010-11:50am at 11:50 am (UTC -4)
Wow, imagine the reaction of our incredible commenting base. That guy would be running with his tail between his legs.
ceetar
3/24/2010-10:01am at 10:01 am (UTC -4)
Well, granted those pictures were elsewhere as well. I have no idea even who’s pictures they were, just that I found them on the cranepoolforum.
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-10:17am at 10:17 am (UTC -4)
I can only say that when you posted the link in the comments section I created a post and only then it was followed by the rest of the Mets blogosphere. HotFoot was the 1st to pick up on it linking us and was the only to give us credit by doing so.
metsfan4decades
3/24/2010-10:01am at 10:01 am (UTC -4)
I’m kind of nervous about trading GMJ now. I’d really like to know for sure that Beltran is on his way back healthy. Stick has a point though – one no one who doesn’t have a crystal ball can answer. Should they sell high now, try and get something back? Or when Beltran returns and he’s healthy, will GMJ have any trade value at that point?
metsfan4decades
3/24/2010-10:06am at 10:06 am (UTC -4)
On a different note, has anyone seen Morgan Ensberg’s blog?
http://morganensberg.wordpress.com/
His current post explains sabermetrics and it’s advantages in a way us non math geeks can finally understand.
Read some of his other posts also and some are very informative and entertaining at the same time. I probably really like these as I’m the type interested in the human interest aspect most times….
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-11:37am at 11:37 am (UTC -4)
Good stuff, thanks for sharing the link.
trs86
3/24/2010-10:10am at 10:10 am (UTC -4)
Here’s the thing that we are missing. GMJR really wants to be a starter. I don’t think the will be a divisive force but If Pagan is healthy and FMart looks ready, why keep him if he can return a need?
CaseStreet
3/24/2010-10:18am at 10:18 am (UTC -4)
why keep him? because we have 3 question marks in Beltran, Pagan and F-Mart. Not that GMJ isn’t a ? but at least he protects from Beltran being on the DL past May, Pagan running into a wall, and F-Mart repeating 2009.
plus, other than maybe a lefty reliever, what need could GMJ possibly net us?
trs86
3/24/2010-10:21am at 10:21 am (UTC -4)
It’s possible that he could net a cast off starter (if packaged with other non-essential players).
I don’t think Fmart nor Pagan are as big of a question mark as you think and I am not sure having GMJR on the bench waiting for his opprotunity gives you that much more depth than already in the system.
Again it depends on his value.
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-10:24am at 10:24 am (UTC -4)
Case just go back to the posts when the Mets traded for GMJ and gather all the comments made as to why it was a good move to get him and just copy and paste them here for why they should hold on to him.
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trs86
3/24/2010-10:26am at 10:26 am (UTC -4)
LOL, don’t you think the situation has changed slightly?
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-10:29am at 10:29 am (UTC -4)
Well I don’t see how the outfield situation has changed since the day they made a trade for GMJ but I was not a big fan of it to begin with so if trading him upgrades the pitching I am fine with that.
I am just trying to help those that feel he should stay.
trs86
3/24/2010-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
I think it has but anyway.
CaseStreet
3/24/2010-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
Don’t we have enough cast off starters w/ Taka, Misch and Nieve?
What depth?
Beltran – may return in May but no guarantees
Pagan – injury prone
F-Mart – seriously struggled against ML pitching last year and injury prone
Value?
So all of a sudden a team is going to highly value GMJ because he’s hit a few HRs in ST? and they are going to trade us something of value when they could’ve trade for GMJ for very little earlier this year?
Sure, it’s possible, I just don’t think it’s wise on the Mets part and don’t see us getting back much.
ceetar
3/24/2010-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
Beltran’s likely to return before May. Again, there are no guarantees, but there is no guarentees of anything.
Pagan’s not really that injury prone. unlucky maybe.
Fernando may be injury prone, or just growing pains. Is he ready? he very well may be.
CaseStreet
3/24/2010-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
Hey, when Beltran’s on the field, I’ll be the first one to pack GMJ’s bags.
Pagan is “unlucky”, but unless he’s made a deal w/ Joe Boo, he might end up on the DL again.
F-Mart, too early to start. Sept. plz.
oleosmirf
3/24/2010-10:49am at 10:49 am (UTC -4)
the only reason you should call up F-Mart at any point before August 1st is b/c one of Beltran, Bay and Francouer is injured/not playing well in Francouer’s case and Pagan is not getting the job done.
Kingman 26
3/24/2010-11:00am at 11:00 am (UTC -4)
Agreed with Oleo 100% again, and I sincerely hope this continues to be the case all season long!
trs86
3/24/2010-11:49am at 11:49 am (UTC -4)
I sure don’t. How boring would that be?
CaseStreet
3/24/2010-10:14am at 10:14 am (UTC -4)
OT, Twins got fleeced on that Garza trade. Rays have Garza and Bartlett, Twins got Young, Pridie, and Harris
ceetar
3/24/2010-10:17am at 10:17 am (UTC -4)
Twins are not having great luck with trades huh?
trs86
3/24/2010-10:18am at 10:18 am (UTC -4)
I could see a trade of GMJR for Harang but more likely a guy like Homer Bailey who may struggle to hold on to his rotation spot.
njstuckintx
3/24/2010-10:30am at 10:30 am (UTC -4)
If they plan on moving Bailey, I’d be on that like white on rice!
oleosmirf
3/24/2010-10:41am at 10:41 am (UTC -4)
yea but i highly doubt they would move him for Gary Matthews Jr.
njstuckintx
3/24/2010-10:55am at 10:55 am (UTC -4)
I highly doubt it too, but like you said below, I’d take Bailey in a second.
oleosmirf
3/24/2010-10:34am at 10:34 am (UTC -4)
i’ll take Homer Bailey in a second…
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/24/2010-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
If that’s the case, there’s no point in doing the trade. The Mets already have someone like that.
metsfan4decades
3/24/2010-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
Oh, you just gotta love it. Various tweets from around concerning Jose:
‘Reyes fielded grounders w/ Manuel watching. Now BP. Like Jerry, I’m no doctor but I think they’ll need chains to keep him out of the lineup.’
‘So much for caution: Reyes beats entire team in every drill and then runs to next field.’
‘Don’t know what tests Mets have planned for Reyes but he’s already logged about a mile running back and forth through the clubhouse.’
‘So far, so good. Reyes made it through conditioning drills with the team – and finished first in every one. There is no low gear for him.’
‘Manuel hitting Reyes grounders alone on back field. After the ninth one, Reyes says, “Oh man, I’m ready bro!”‘
‘Reyes looks the same, other than the fact he’s been winded after some of the drills. That usually doesn’t happen. Running looks fine.’
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-10:34am at 10:34 am (UTC -4)
Thanks for the info 4d I am sure Reyes will soon be called “The Beast”
ceetar
3/24/2010-10:38am at 10:38 am (UTC -4)
as I tweeted, I think Reyes should be an Anti-Scratch in the lineup today. Poetic. maybe DH him just for getting some in-game timing down?
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/24/2010-10:48am at 10:48 am (UTC -4)
I would still take slow with him. I don’t care if he makes the Opening Day roster. That’s only symbolic. If he’s out for the first week, I’m okay with that. Just don’t rush him back. Jerry needs to worry about his hamstring.
ceetar
3/24/2010-10:57am at 10:57 am (UTC -4)
What’s wrong with his hamstring? It was 101% before the thyroid thing, and rest could only have healed it more.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/24/2010-11:02am at 11:02 am (UTC -4)
I know, but I’d rather have him start slowly and miss couple games than to have him go 100% from the start and get hurt.
ceetar
3/24/2010-10:46am at 10:46 am (UTC -4)
A-Rod ducking the Feds. something to hide?
metsfan4decades
3/24/2010-10:55am at 10:55 am (UTC -4)
Oh, I was waiting for that….
Somewhere last night I saw a discussion on this. They were commenting that the Feds seeking out ARod had a completely different feel to it then them talking to Reyes and Beltran concerning this same doctor…..
ceetar
3/24/2010-10:56am at 10:56 am (UTC -4)
well, i think it had the same feel except he refused to talk.
Supposedly they’re basically saying talk to us Friday or we’re taking you to court.
saltygary
3/24/2010-11:00am at 11:00 am (UTC -4)
Was talking to my daughters pediatrician (who besides me is the only other Mets fan in NH) and he thinks they should make HGH legal. Yea he is a pediatrician but the guy is crazy smart and is not one to talk out of his ars. From the data he has seen HGH doesn’t do anything to bulk a person up but is integral in healing, and with the players out there for six months why shouldn’t they take something that can keep them out there for the entire season that doesn’t negatively effect their health or put on more irregular muscle mass. With that in mind he thinks it’s possible that Reyes and Beltran received HGH from that Doctor but noone will ever know. Also he does not believe that HGH has anything to do with Reyes and his Thyroid issues.
metsfan4decades
3/24/2010-11:09am at 11:09 am (UTC -4)
This really has two sides to it.
Normally, a doctor does not prescribe medication unless there is a need to, as in a medical problem that particular drug will help or ease.
So prescribing HGH to ball players who have had an injury and/or surgery, by a reputable doctor, who will be monitoring for side efects, etc – I wouldn’t have a problem with.
But to get a reputable doctor to prescribe HGH with no medical need, just for an added advantage to his game, IDK…just kind of smacks of violating some medical ethic code.
And if it was legal, sure, you can get some of this over the counter. But to get the type of advantage some of these players are looking for, they’d probably have to ignore the dosing recommendations on the product and over use it. Then no one is monitoring the use of it….
oleosmirf
3/24/2010-11:15am at 11:15 am (UTC -4)
you are also assuming that the doctor prescribing these HGH to the players is doing so for medical reasons and not financial.
i mean is being ethical worth losing the money the 10K you get as a “Thank you gift”
metsfan4decades
3/24/2010-11:24am at 11:24 am (UTC -4)
Considering we read about this type of thing all the time, obviously to some doctors the answer would be no.
Kind of my point. Like the fox guarding the hen house type of mentality….
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/24/2010-11:40am at 11:40 am (UTC -4)
I thought of the same thing too. These doctors could be reputable and respected, but it only takes 1 or 2 doctors to prescribe HGH based on ‘it could be’ injuries.
Or how do you draw a line when a player no longer needs HGH when coming back from injury? There could be lingering effects from the injury, so a player may need to take HGH for entire season?
I think there are just too many question marks regarding what HGH does for a baseball player.
saltygary
3/24/2010-11:42am at 11:42 am (UTC -4)
Not wanting to get into a health care debate but would you agree that most of Doctors are unethical? There are too many drugs that are prescribed whether the patient really needs it or not.
DNDJohan aka kistics
3/24/2010-11:13am at 11:13 am (UTC -4)
I really think Selig needs to layout what HGH is and what it does in front of everyone. I think many people were pretty familiar with steroids and knew what it did. But for HGH, does it even help the players to hit more HRs or throw harder? What’s the advantage a player would have by taking HGH over a player who doesn’t take HGH?
And if it really gives a player unfair advantage, he should clearly lay it out. So that the public knows what it is and if Selig can sway the public opinion on HGH testing, it would be much much easier to get the testing in place for the next CBA.
saltygary
3/24/2010-11:43am at 11:43 am (UTC -4)
You’re exactly correct and that lack of communication on a wide variety of subjects continues to give MLB a black eye.
metsfan4decades
3/24/2010-11:12am at 11:12 am (UTC -4)
And Mets Merized has this latest post on the GMJ subject:
‘Gary Matthews Beating Out Pagan For CF Job, So Lets Trade Him?’
oleosmirf
3/24/2010-11:18am at 11:18 am (UTC -4)
I still dont see the purpose of trading him.
We would still need a backup CF for Pagan and the only other options are Pridie and Feliciano. F-mart is useless as a backup
plus what would we get in return? A pitcher of Stokes’s caliber?
come back to me in a month when Beltran is back, producing and Matthews is hitting well. Then maybe he’ll have some trade value
trs86
3/24/2010-11:45am at 11:45 am (UTC -4)
Perhaps his value has increased?
Also as far as a backup Pridie would not be bad in my opinion.
oleosmirf
3/24/2010-11:58am at 11:58 am (UTC -4)
i just think Matthews value as the 5th OF is far greater even as an insurance policy than bringing in someone who is gonna be in the back end of the rotation or a SP in AAA.
if Pagan and Beltran are out, I dont want to have to rely on F-Mart
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-11:41am at 11:41 am (UTC -4)
For discussion’s sake, here’s the list of Reds that are out of options:
Homer Bailey, Wladimir Balentien, Nick Masset
Balentien doesn’t help the Mets (IMO) but Bailey as a starter might and Masset is a very, very good set up man.
trs86
3/24/2010-11:45am at 11:45 am (UTC -4)
Yeah both of those guys would help tremendously. Perhaps Bailey just needs a new start. Maybe you get him for guys like GMJR, Parnell, Evans, Bowman etc.
njstuckintx
3/24/2010-12:27pm at 12:27 pm (UTC -4)
If Bailey could be had for some combination of the above, then do it. Do it now. His stuff is good, just hasn’t put it together yet. And we all know Warthen can straighten him out! (kidding).
saltygary
3/24/2010-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
I would rather pick up Washburn in the FA market then trade for someone like Baily.
trs86
3/24/2010-12:27pm at 12:27 pm (UTC -4)
Washburn appears to have no interest in coming East and Bailey is much younger, cheaper and under team control.
stickguy
3/24/2010-12:18pm at 12:18 pm (UTC -4)
bailey is the only one that I ever heard of.
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-12:23pm at 12:23 pm (UTC -4)
Sadly I am very familiar with all of them. I remember when Balentien was a hot prospect with the Mariners (great OF arm), and Masset has been a very good set up guy in Cincy, so much so they bought out 2 of his arbitration years with a 2 year, $2.58 mil contract, which would seem to imply they’re not likely to trade him.
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-12:02pm at 12:02 pm (UTC -4)
Sports Line’s projected Reds starting OF is
LF Dickerson
CF Stubbs
RF Bruce
although when you click on the depth chart it shows Jonny Gomes in LF. Balentien is listed as the backup RF. They also still have Laynce Nix who has been a good back up for them.
Bailey is listed as the 4th starter (he’s starting today in ST) and Masset as primary set up man.
So far this spring:
Gomes .279/4/10 in 36 AB
Stubbs .294/3/6 in 34 AB
Dickerson .364/1/6, 2 SB in 33 AB
Bruce .313/2/5, 3 SB in 32 AB
Balentien .286/1/2 in 28 AB
Nix .250/2/7 in 24 AB
I don’t know their level of commitment to these various guys but on casual examination none of them seem to be struggling offensively. Defensively I know nothing about them.
Going into today’s start Bailey:
0-0, 4.05 in 2 starts, 6 2/3 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3 K.
trs86
3/24/2010-12:29pm at 12:29 pm (UTC -4)
Right and they will make room for Chapman soon as well as maybe Maloney.
njstuckintx
3/24/2010-12:36pm at 12:36 pm (UTC -4)
That said, I would think they would be more apt to move Harang or Arroyo, for the salary and with their “calvary” coming in. + they’ll have Volquez coming back in July/August, right?
trs86
3/24/2010-12:40pm at 12:40 pm (UTC -4)
Depends on if they feel they can compete in what I think is a winnable Central. If so they may be more likely to keep their current #1 and #2.
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-12:44pm at 12:44 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed. The more I “investigate” this the more it seems like GMJ to the Reds for a pitcher is not a good match from the Reds perspective.
Yes I could see them parting with Bailey given this depth chart but I just don’t see their need for GMJ.
Rotation
1. A. Harang
2. J. Cueto
3. B. Arroyo
4. H. Bailey
5. A. Chapman
6. M. Owings
7. M. Maloney
8. T. Wood
9. M. Leake
10. E. Volquez
trs86
3/24/2010-12:45pm at 12:45 pm (UTC -4)
They certainly have excess pitching. Perhaps if they needed an OF they would just use Owings?
njstuckintx
3/24/2010-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
I’d take Owings for 1B!
In order to get anything of worth from the Reds, I would think it would start with Pagan, not GMJ.
trs86
3/24/2010-12:48pm at 12:48 pm (UTC -4)
Not sure this helps either case:
Linky
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-12:57pm at 12:57 pm (UTC -4)
Interesting, makes the impossible slightly possible.
How do you do that with links? I always have to just leave the IP address, your way is cleaner.
trs86
3/24/2010-1:03pm at 1:03 pm (UTC -4)
Have to go back in and edit your comment. Takes time but I am always afraid to put an add. in if the comment is already threaded.
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-1:05pm at 1:05 pm (UTC -4)
Edit, OK cool, thanks for the tip!
trs86
3/24/2010-1:07pm at 1:07 pm (UTC -4)
By the way, you do have access to the edit feature right?
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-12:05pm at 12:05 pm (UTC -4)
Hey so if the Mets end up doing a 1 for 1 trade getting a pitcher for GMJ does that mean FMart or Carter have more of a chance to making the team?
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-12:26pm at 12:26 pm (UTC -4)
In my opinion, I doubt it. I think it means they saw enough in Pridie to feel he can fill the GMJ role while Beltran is out.
trs86
3/24/2010-12:29pm at 12:29 pm (UTC -4)
I agree Grave. If Carter were a CF I would say yes.
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-12:31pm at 12:31 pm (UTC -4)
Your on point as usual Grave.
trs86
3/24/2010-12:34pm at 12:34 pm (UTC -4)
I guess if they really wanted Carter around then Frenchy could be the CF backup but that’s not very likely at all.
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-12:37pm at 12:37 pm (UTC -4)
Having followed Carter since the off season I guess I was hoping for a way the chances of him making the team got better.
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-12:41pm at 12:41 pm (UTC -4)
If they trade Jacobs/Catalanotto/Murphy/Francoeur/Bay I think Carter’s chances then go way up!
trs86
3/24/2010-12:43pm at 12:43 pm (UTC -4)
I am not sure Cat is making the team and who knows if Jacobs wants to ride the pine. I guess there is still hope for him. Reyes coming back by opening day would help his case.
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-12:44pm at 12:44 pm (UTC -4)
Now your just being mean.
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GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-12:46pm at 12:46 pm (UTC -4)
I didn’t mean ALL of them, just any one of them.
By the way I love the “active” emoticons.
Mr North Jersey
3/24/2010-12:48pm at 12:48 pm (UTC -4)
Ohh I thought you meant all of them. LoL
Thanks on da comp I used the 3d ones from smileyhut.
GravediggerHebner
3/24/2010-12:53pm at 12:53 pm (UTC -4)
I like them but I haven’t figured out how to remove the “advertisement” from the code.
trs86
3/24/2010-12:42pm at 12:42 pm (UTC -4)
I agree, I like him and think he could really shut up those complaining about the trade.
To me I see no reason to keep Jacobs or Cat over him. IF it was a starting position then fine I understand the experience issue. But for a bench position why not go with the guy with a potential higher ceiling?