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Apr 19

Audio: Post Game Locker Room Talk – 4/18/2010

John Maine
Sunday, April 18th – Mets starter John Maine talks to the media after the Mets were defeated by the St. Louis Cardinals 5-3 in St. Louis. Maine gave up three runs in five innings and walked four batters.

Audio courtesy of WFAN.com

Jerry Manuel
Sunday, April 18th – Mets skipper Jerry Manuel addresses the media after the Mets were defeated 5-3 by the St. Louis Cardinals in St. Louis.

Audio courtesy of WFAN.com

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21 comments

  1. metsfan4decades

    Anyone who thought Maine was going to go back to scratch and fix his mechanics in 5 days was fooling himself.

    Listening to is post game interview last night, he seemed absolutely determined to get back to ‘where he was’ and no doubt at all he could. Maybe I’m reading between the lines but it sounded to me like the only thing he really didn’t have an answer for was the loss of velocity. So I’d have to assume he’s believing when he gets his mechanics worked out, that will come. Me? I’m not so sure…Could be he just had the incredible bad luck of that minor surgery doing just enough damage for him where his arm won’t be as strong as it once was.

    1. trs86

      There’s a good place to find out…. AAA.

      I give him one more start. Not only does he have to improve but he has to be able to at least average 5.5 innings per start. Can’t be going to the BP after 5 every night.

      1. metsfan4decades

        I’m thinking he’ll get one more start as well. What happens after that, all depends on what that start looks like.
        If he goes 6 innings, leaves with a lead, he gets the next start. And let’s hope he builds on that.

        I’m not very confident though he can turn this around quickly up here. AAA might be the best place for him for a few months.

        1. trs86

          Agreed. Especially with Gee looking decent. Problem is that anyone other than Stoner I think has to be put on the 40 man.

          I wonder if the Mets would be willing to stretch out Taka the next time Maine starts?

          1. stickguy

            I know that ideally you want to avoid clogging up a spot on the 40 man before you really need to (well, it doesn’t seem to bother Omar), but with Escobar ot throwing and Beltran not running, it seems that they have a couple of prime 60 day DL candidates, especially Escobar (since they have no particular need for him anyway).

            Is Calero on the 40 man?

          2. ceetar

            They could bring up Nick Evans and add a starter to the 40 man instead of Jacobs no?

          3. stickguy

            Oh yeah, I forgot they have Jacobs open spot, but Davis will take that one. Still need another for Gee if they decide to make that move.

            actaully, since Evans is already on the 40 man, if they brought him up in place of cat or tatis (I know, that one aint happening), it would free up another spot.

          4. trs86

            Not a bad idea. Bring up Evans and release Cat. Thus creating 1 more spot. Credit to you Stick.

        2. stickguy

          I agree that he could likely be on the 1 start at a time program. DO good enough (and show some progress), and get another one.

          I figure that he was going to get at least 5 when the season started, and this will be 4 coming up, so that sounds about right.

          It will also give Gee another couple of starts to show that he is for real, if that is the way they are going.

          Plus, it gives Neise the same number of extra starts to prove that he is going to settle in and not be a problem.

          Not sure if the player going down has been announced, but it isn’t really a bad idea to keep stoner (for another tag team start, just in case), but unless they finally decide to get mejia on a starters program, not sure who they would send down instead.

          1. metsfan4decades

            From what I’m reading, if Ike comes up today, instead of tomorrow, Mets lose one year on the arb clock. So I’m not sure we’ll see him today and whoever is going down is gone today.

          2. stickguy

            I know that the magic day was around 20 days into the season. SO the Mets would have to be insane to call him up 1 day before that point. They are used to playing a man short on the bench anyway, so they should be able to handle it 1 more game.

            maybe that was the plan all along. If Jacobs was tearing things up by the 21st, make the move? Otherwise they might have done it right out of ST>

          3. metsfan4decades

            Hmmm…..20 days would be this weekend – if we’re talking about counting from opening day. I haven’t seen anything ‘official’ on this, just discussion on it across several blogs such as MLBTR.

            I always thought it was 2 months, so tells you how much I know…..

    2. ceetar

      Everyone’s velocity was down. Crosstown Vasquez is having the same issue. He threw 115 pitches and worked hard between starts, which I think does wonders for his arm strength, and I expect next start to be much better because of it. Same goes for Santana and Perez, both of who were coming off injuries and didn’t get enough arm strength in spring, but are getting there.

  2. trs86

    I am not exactly sure when Escobar or Beltran’s 60 day DL’s would be up. Perhaps there is something in their contracts as well that complicates the issue?

    1. metsfan4decades

      I guess that would depend on if you can back date it to opening day or before.
      In Escobar’s case, I’m not seeing any indication he’d be ready before June.

      And sadly, I’m not seeing anything that indicates Beltran would be back now before June either. Although I suppose there is a chance we could see him before Memorial day but he’s not even ‘running’ yet…..

      1. trs86

        Yeah, Beltran’s I would be less likely to move until closer to the 60 day date. Escobar, I wonder if there was something in his contract where he has to be on the 40 man?

        1. stickguy

          they wouldn’t have a contract term about the 60 day. He is still technically on the 40 man, he just doesn’t count against it (sort of in an annex I guess!)

  3. trs86

    Also, Eddie Kunz is still on the 40 man. Would ANYONE claim him at this point?

    1. metsfan4decades

      LOL. Would it make a difference?

      1. trs86

        AA would be missing their #5 starter.

  4. trs86

    Stick brought up a great point. By replacing Cat and Tatis with Carter and Evans you create two spots on the 40 man. If anyone claims Tatis or Cat then fine.

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