Buffalo-
cf Jason Pridie 2 for 5, run, 2 RBI, BB, .306 (GMJ potential replacement #1)
rf Jesus Feliciano 4 for 5, 3 runs, HR, 3 RBI, BB, .368 ( and #2 GMJ do you hear footsteps?)
1b Mike Jacobs 3 for 6, run, 2b, HR, 2 RBI
3b Mike Hessman 1 for 5, RBI, .293
dh Chris Carter 2 for 5, .306
2b Russ Adams 3 for 5, 2 runs, 2b, K, .324
c Josh Thole 1 for 3, run, RBI, BB, K, .149
ss Ruben Tejada 0 for 3, run, K, .217
Pat Misch 7 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, BB, 3.09 era, W (1-0)
Bing-
cf Kirk Nieuwenhuis 1 for 4, run, K, .321, SB (2)
1b Nick Evans 0 for 2, RBI (16), .318
lf, 1b Lucas Duda 1 for 3, RBI (18), BB, .281
rf Brahiam Maldonado 1 for 2, 2 runs, BB, .176
Scott Shaw 6.2 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 2/4 BB/K, HR, 7.11 era, W (3-0), (doesn’t have great stuff but keeps chugging along. I still don’t think he is anything more than a POTENTIAL #5 or long man but who knows)
Roy Merritt 2.1 IP, H, K, 2.38 era, SV (2)
St. Lucie-
rf Emmanuel Garcia 1 for 5, 2 runs, 2b, 3 Ks, .271
2b Josh Satin 1 for 4, 2 RBI, K, .321
cf Sean Ratliff 2 for 5, K, .258
1b Stefan Welch 2 for 4, run, HR (2), RBI (12), BB, K, .317
dh Richard Lucas 4 for 5, run, HR (3), 2 RBI (10), K, .228
Jeurys Familia 6 innings 4 hits 2 er 2/4 bb/k (much better from the young hardthrower. Funny I had 2 different writers tell me that the Adam Rubin mention of him potentially hitting 100 on a pitch on the backfields may cause him to start slow because he would try and throw that hard every pitch and they both seem to have been potentially correct)
Jimmy Johnson 1.1 IP, K, 3.48 era
Manuel Alvarez 1.2 IP, 2 H, 2 Ks, 0.00 era, W (2-0)
Savannah-
cf Pedro Zapata 2 for 4, 3 runs, BB, .279
lf Juan Lagares 1 for 5, run, RBI (13), .273
ss Wilmer Flores 1 for 4, run, RBI (17), BB, .361
3b Jefry Marte 0 for 4, K, .053
rf Cesar Puello 0 for 4, 2 Ks, .262
dh Alex Gregory 3 for 4, K, .286 (2009 pick)
2b Alonzo Harris 0 for 3, run, BB, 2 Ks, .270
Mark Cohoon 6 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 1/6 BB/K, HR, 1.90 era
John Church 1.2 IP, 2 H, ER, BB, K, 0.96 era, 2:2:1
64 comments
saltygary
4/26/2010-11:28am at 11:28 am (UTC -4)
KCobs seems to be heating up, maybe we should call him back up…
njstuckintx
4/26/2010-11:45am at 11:45 am (UTC -4)
Even penned with sarcasm, that line isn’t funny. Borders on scary.
trs86
4/26/2010-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
Hopefully he develops something he has not had in a long time…. trade value.
saltygary
4/26/2010-11:50am at 11:50 am (UTC -4)
We can only hope.
trs86
4/26/2010-11:49am at 11:49 am (UTC -4)
It’s funny how a winning streak can change opinions so easily.
On MB, there is a poll asking about Jerry Manuel’s job so far “Do you approve or disapprove of the way Jerry Manuel is handling his job as Manager?”
Today the votes are # Approve (38%, 699 Votes)
# Unsure (38%, 692 Votes)
# Disapprove (24%, 435 Votes)
What would those results have been before this homestand?
saltygary
4/26/2010-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
I was just looking at the same thing and was shocked.
trs86
4/26/2010-11:54am at 11:54 am (UTC -4)
I bet if they took the Right Direction Wrong Direction that vote would be completely different too. My vote for both of these situations has not changed. Not saying they are negative, as I think they are on the right track, but interesting how worthless they are because all they do is gauge a winning streak.
GravediggerHebner
4/26/2010-11:56am at 11:56 am (UTC -4)
I think if the organization felt that Jesus Feliciano were capable of the ML back up CF role they never would’ve traded for GMJ in the first place. Any footsteps GMJ hears from Feliciano are distant ones coming from comfortable non-threatening shoes.
At least the organization seems satisfied enough with Feliciano that they’ll be OK with him manning CF in Buffalo should Pridie take over for GMJ in Queens, but any time in the bigs for Feliciano due to anything other than injuries seems unlikely to this observer.
trs86
4/26/2010-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
Yeah, also considering he was a minor league FA this year too and wound up right back with us.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-12:06pm at 12:06 pm (UTC -4)
Hard to say what direction this organization’s thinking is right now as they didn’t think Ike Davis was ready for the Opening Day 1st baseman’s job.
Prospects coming up these past few years seem to be made on a decision of necessity, rather than progression through the minors……
trs86
4/26/2010-12:09pm at 12:09 pm (UTC -4)
Not sure if they thought he was ready or not. I think it was more loyalty to Murphy and the point of why rush a kid that is at least close to ready if not ready when you have Murphy who they believe could have been a solid place holder.
stickguy
4/26/2010-12:25pm at 12:25 pm (UTC -4)
I think they thought he was close enough to ready to get the job done, but would still be well served by getting some more polishing in the minors.
and more importantly, they did not want to call him up too early in case he stuck thereby losing a year of service time control.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-12:47pm at 12:47 pm (UTC -4)
I wasn’t picking on the Ike Davis promotion, per say. Just making a comment in general on how our prospects made it to the majors in the few years. If you look at Pelfrey, Niese, FMart, Mejia, they all made their debuts before they were really ready. There was just a glaring need for them at the time. Probably wouldn’t have seen Davis until later this year either if it wasn’t for the Murphy injury and the backups for him who were not getting it done on any level.
Actually, strike that about Mejia. I have absolutely no idea why he’s up here. It can’t be need b/c he’s not starting, he’s not closing and he hasn’t been the set up guy either. He’s one who really belongs back in the minors starting….
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-1:01pm at 1:01 pm (UTC -4)
Case in point are these comments from Jerry before and now on Mejia – over on Amazin Avenue:
Jerry Manuel Can’t Make His Mind Up On Mejia:
March 23:
“I would like to see [Mejia] stay with the hard stuff,” Manuel said. “He has enough. If he can command that [cutter], he has enough.”
Latest comments (no date):
While there has been a tempest among fans wishing that Mejia would be in the minors readying for a starting job, Manuel feels he’s not suited for starting now.
“I don’t think he has had enough of his repertoire to show,” he said. “He’s been mostly a one-pitch or two-pitch guy, but as a starter, the repertoire of the curveball, the change-up, the sinker, all those type of things are needed.”
Sigh…….
stickguy
4/26/2010-1:13pm at 1:13 pm (UTC -4)
as always, Jerry is an idiot.
Was driving home from NY today, so had FAN on. Joe and Evan (it is evan,right?) were ripping the Mets for Mejia. About how they could really use him as a SP at some point this year.
And that he is being wasted in the pen, since he isn’t even being Jobaized. He doesn’t pitch for a while, then gets some mop up innings.
they need to send him down to work on the secondary stuff.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-1:32pm at 1:32 pm (UTC -4)
Yes, it’s Evan. I usually try and tune into the Joe and Evan show 10am-1pm. I ususally turn it off when Francesa comes on at 1pm. Wish I had done that today…
Although, I have to say, his opening hour is on the Mets and his theme today is get off the Omar and Jerry fired bandwagon. If you Met fans think this turn around this past week has anything to do with the manger, think again.
ceetar
4/26/2010-2:12pm at 2:12 pm (UTC -4)
then he goes on to say the only real things a manager needs to do is… and lists a whole bunch of things Manuel sucks at.
stickguy
4/26/2010-12:29pm at 12:29 pm (UTC -4)
Bingo can score some runs.
And Flores is a monster in that man-child Lebron sort of way. If he ends up hitting his way to PSL this season, that means bingo likely happens next year, and he could be on the heyward track to reaching the bigs at 20.
I know, quite the stretch, but water and talent both find their own level (see jacobs now).
Of course, it would help if they figure out what his position is going to be if he is going to be taking the express elevator. If SS isn’t going to be where he ends up staying, he smells like a 3B to me. And if DW doesn’t figure out how to get out of the mess he is becoming, he just might be hearing footsteps too soon!
trs86
4/26/2010-12:39pm at 12:39 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, EASY Stick.
trs86
4/26/2010-12:40pm at 12:40 pm (UTC -4)
DW could hit .218 for the season and not be in any danger.
stickguy
4/26/2010-1:15pm at 1:15 pm (UTC -4)
he got some more boos last night. If he keeps up hitting .218 and failing inbig spots, he is likely to be in danger of being heilmannized.
trs86
4/26/2010-1:19pm at 1:19 pm (UTC -4)
No way is DW ever Heimannized here. Come on Stick.
stickguy
4/26/2010-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
once the boos start, it can happen. maybe not that bad, but fans can even turn on the golden boy if he doesn’t produce.
GravediggerHebner
4/26/2010-1:28pm at 1:28 pm (UTC -4)
Speaking of Heilman, his line with AZ so far this season:
0-1, 7.71 ERA, 7 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 2 HR, 4 K, 4 BB, 2 WP, 1.714 WHIP
CaseStreet
4/26/2010-1:34pm at 1:34 pm (UTC -4)
Joe Smith is off to a pretty bad start, too
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-2:08pm at 2:08 pm (UTC -4)
Think I saw Schoenwise give up the go ahead run(s) over the weekend as well.
No loss for these 3 as well as others over the past three years.
Right now, I think we’ve got a pretty good BP (hope Iggy returns after 15 days). Don’t know how long it will last b/c we know how BPs go but I’m more confident with this BP then I’ve been since 2006.
Oh…and Green can stay on the DL indefinitely.
stickguy
4/26/2010-2:13pm at 2:13 pm (UTC -4)
one good thing about BP guys having to go on the DL with relatively minor, non-arm related issues.
it gives them a couple of weeks off away from madman Jerry to help recover from overuse!
oleosmirf
4/26/2010-1:33pm at 1:33 pm (UTC -4)
so could GMJ or Catalanotto
oleosmirf
4/26/2010-1:31pm at 1:31 pm (UTC -4)
I would love to them DFA Matthews and bring up Pridie or Feliciano.
I still think it was a good move at the time, Losing Stokes is nothing to be worried about…
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-1:38pm at 1:38 pm (UTC -4)
You’re probably right. Once it was determined Beltran wouldn’t be back again, they had to have another CF and they apparently wanted to go with experience over someone in the minors. But I now think someone from the minors could do what Mathews is doing and probably do a little better.
CaseStreet
4/26/2010-1:35pm at 1:35 pm (UTC -4)
So what happened to F-Mart?
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-1:43pm at 1:43 pm (UTC -4)
Listening to MF this afternoon as his top hour is all Mets. (yes, glutton for punishment).
Caller just asked about Beltran, saying he’s getting a ‘chip on my shoulder’ concerning him.
MF says you have to be very very careful when insinuating a player is or is not really ‘injured’. He has no idea what’s going on. But he did say that he believes Beltran is really more angry with the Mets going back to the handling of his injury last year, then we’ve been hearing. He also says what will probably happen is there will no longer be any kind of relationship between Beltran and the Mets which will be a difficult situation b/c Beltran has a no trade clause.
I read a snippit from some beat writer over the weekend (and I can’t remember who) who is putting the blame on Boras. Apparently, Boras told the Mets back in late January, no problem with Beltran and surgery. He’ll be back in 6-8 weeks ready to start rehab in minor league games.
You have to wonder what really is going on here. I don’t know why, but I can’t wrap my brain around Beltran scamming the Mets here. Would I believe he’s angry and he decided to have surgery done in his own best interest and not the Mets? Sure…..but I’ll be pissed if it comes out they lied about the expected return…..
Mr North Jersey
4/26/2010-1:47pm at 1:47 pm (UTC -4)
The writer was Klapish and all he did was try and stir the pot by drawing opinion from fact.
I would say that considering the seriousness of the injury Beltran is not going to come back until he is 100% which I can’t hold against him all things considered.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-1:56pm at 1:56 pm (UTC -4)
That’s right, Klapish. Thanks for refreshing my memory.
And I thought the same thing when I read that – he’s just stirring the pot and he obviously has no use for Boris at all.
oleosmirf
4/26/2010-1:53pm at 1:53 pm (UTC -4)
Beltran has always been hurt. Even if he’s playing through the pain, he always has something wrong with him. I can completely understand why people would be frustrated with him…
I don’t think he is faking an injury but has he ever been 100% healthy as a Met?
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-2:00pm at 2:00 pm (UTC -4)
Not if he’s had osteoarthritis his whole career. I have it and it’s not something that’s ‘curable’ and it only gets worse the older you get. No cartilage left often means you’ve got ‘bone on bone’. Not hard to imagine then how he developed a deep knee bone bruise.
It’s compounded also by over use and/or repetitive use of certain joints. Which most athletes would be doing….
stickguy
4/26/2010-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
once again, great (old) minds think alike.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-2:16pm at 2:16 pm (UTC -4)
LOL…..
I just wish, if it is something to do with that deep bone bruise not healed, they would have just given out those details up front. IMO, would have been better off telling Met fans he would be out 3-4 months instead of 6-8 weeks and keep adding to that 6-8 weeks….
Mr North Jersey
4/26/2010-2:27pm at 2:27 pm (UTC -4)
Anyone that is frustrated with what Beltran did in 2006, 2007, and 2008 have standards so high that not even Puljos could satisfy them. So those people are just never satisfied and therefore of no concern.
trs86
4/26/2010-2:39pm at 2:39 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed.
trs86
4/26/2010-2:42pm at 2:42 pm (UTC -4)
Beltran’s only crime is honesty. All MLB guys play with aches, pains and injuries at some point. When reporters asking him if he was banged up or not he should have just gave the generic “no more than anyone else” line. Instead he gave things like percentages that most likely he did not even understand. That’s the only crime I see. Beltran had not missed really any significant time over the life of the contract until this injury that started last season. In fact he played as many games in CF during that span as anyone. The idea of Beltran being injury prone or soft was mostly media driven because he’s not flashy enough for them or create enough of a story for them.
The Mets if they never get another inning from Beltran got what they paid for. Relevance and one of the greatest CF in the game during that span.
stickguy
4/26/2010-2:02pm at 2:02 pm (UTC -4)
From the various bits and pieces of reports, it seems that the lingering problem isn’t specifically related to the knee surgery, but rather the bone bruise. Which could be stemming from the arthritis in his knee.
So, it is possible that that 6=10 (or whatever it was) recovery period was correct, and that problem is resolved, but it is his bigger degenerative knee damage that is keeping him out.
And if it is something like that causing the recurring bruising, you have to figure that the odds are it will not ever really go away (or at least stay away).
If so, at some point he either has to retire, or just decide to push it as long as he can, and ignore the pain.
Also no chance in the world the mets should even think of offering him another contract. But, first we have to see if he ever actually plays again!
ceetar
4/26/2010-2:14pm at 2:14 pm (UTC -4)
This is how i see it too. And it sounds like the bruises are healing, just not healed. Certainly that they’re better than when he played on them last year. (and played well)
I think the idea here is probably to get them healed and hope that the issue is behind him. Thinks can reoccur, but starting now would be putting him behind the eight ball.
I think Boras is at least half the problem with the Beltran-Mets relationship, whatever that is.
If Beltran comes back for August-September, and plays a healthy and Beltranesque 2011, I see no reason why the Mets wouldn’t offer him a contract. But I’ll worry about that when the time comes. Boras will be looking for more money than he’s worth. the Mets might have other CF options. who knows if he’ll even come back at that level and stay that healthy.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-2:18pm at 2:18 pm (UTC -4)
‘I think Boras is at least half the problem with the Beltran-Mets relationship, whatever that is.’
This, I believe as well. I can’t imagine Boras gives one hoot about the Mets needing their center fielder as much as he does making sure when Beltran returns, he’s 100% healthy to put up big numbers to get that one final contract.
stickguy
4/26/2010-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
also, they don’t need a “relationship” at this point. The mets pay him, and they just need him back on the field. Then after next year, he can walk away without a parting word, and go on with his life!
oleosmirf
4/26/2010-1:47pm at 1:47 pm (UTC -4)
a prospect that never gets talked about but has put up really good numbers is Joshua Satin…he’s not even mentioned as a top 40 prospect on Toby Hyde’s site
Mr North Jersey
4/26/2010-2:33pm at 2:33 pm (UTC -4)
You know with all the buzz that Flores is making what is really of significance is that the kid is 18 years old how far can he develop by the time he’s 23 is scary to think.
trs86
4/26/2010-2:39pm at 2:39 pm (UTC -4)
I hope that is the case. They started that hype with Fmart too. It looks like Fmart could finally be ready to start living up to that hype in 2011.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-2:54pm at 2:54 pm (UTC -4)
I’m just happy our farm system isn’t the ‘crap’ many have been saying for the past few years.
I can’t wait to see how Flores develops. I think this is the first Met prospect I’ve followed at the tender age of 16 back when….
trs86
4/26/2010-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
GMJR getting the start tonight
The Mets open a series with the Dodgers tonight: Pagan-CF, Castillo-2B, Reyes-SS, Bay-LF, Wright-3B, Davis-1B, Matthews-RF, Barajas-C, Perez
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-2:50pm at 2:50 pm (UTC -4)
Interesting….so much for Pagan is my starting CF.
ceetar
4/26/2010-2:53pm at 2:53 pm (UTC -4)
You misread. Frenchy’s the one not starting.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
Oops, I stand corrected.
So Frenchy gets a day off? I wonder if/when Wright will.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-2:52pm at 2:52 pm (UTC -4)
I see Ryan Howard just signed a 5 year 125Mil extension with the Phillies.
And entertainment of the afternoon is Yankee fans calling in to WFAN giving their opinions on who should be in the BP come the playoffs.
Playoffs? It’s April. And that’s why many baseball fans hate Yankee fans. The ‘entitlement’ of it all….
ceetar
4/26/2010-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
They should worry about who should be in the bullpen come May, or they may not make the playoffs.
trs86
4/26/2010-3:10pm at 3:10 pm (UTC -4)
Uh oh. Man the Phillies are going to have to increase payroll to maintain. Werth, you might as well start sending out resumes.
trs86
4/26/2010-3:26pm at 3:26 pm (UTC -4)
Damn, the more I look at that contract the less I like it. Good thing it’s not ours.
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
LOL. They’ve signed several to extension over the past few years, right? Hamels, Rollins….
I don’t think there is any way they can resign Werth. Not unless they somehow manage to dump Ibanez’s contract and possibly get him to accept some home town discount.
I can see the Yankees looking at him.
trs86
4/26/2010-3:32pm at 3:32 pm (UTC -4)
Yanks will be all over him, so should the Braves be. I can’t see him not getting a decent pay day. One thing to consider with some of these extensions. These guys are not Jose and David. They are starting to climb in age too. Signing 30+ guys to BIG contracts is always buyer beware.
trs86
4/26/2010-3:39pm at 3:39 pm (UTC -4)
The guy has had one season with an OPS over 1.000 and has came 1K shy of 200 2 years and another 186 last year. He’s an elite player but with that SLG % how do you not have a higher OPS? Fielder’s already been over 1.000 twice and Pujols 8/10 years. Arod 6 times. Yes it may not be fair to compare him to Pujols or Arod but with that contract he is going to be and should be compared to them, right?
trs86
4/26/2010-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
Tex 2 times.
ceetar
4/26/2010-3:05pm at 3:05 pm (UTC -4)
Interesting thought on my part:
our meterologist says the game won’t likely be played. Usually the Mets allow you to use a rained out ticket for any other game, or at least a fair subset of games. Tickets on stubhub are really cheap, like $5..I’m wondering if I should just buy a bunch and have them basically double in value in redemption for a future game because they’d revert to face value on a trade..
metsfan4decades
4/26/2010-3:34pm at 3:34 pm (UTC -4)
I know for the game last night, Mets are offering a makeup game which is either the SD series 8-10 June or Detroit series 22-24 June.
Not sure if the pick is limited b/c they actually played 5 innings last night – or if this will be the new policy for complete rain outs. -Meaning the replacement dates might be very limited.
Dang – it’s been crappy and overcast all day here but it hasn’t rained here all afternoon.
GravediggerHebner
4/26/2010-4:07pm at 4:07 pm (UTC -4)
As long as you realize you’re gambling and that no matter how good the odds you might lose, go for it.
Also, don’t buy anyone’s season tickets which of course would not be redeemable for anything.