TRDMB: Who’s Hot & Who’s Not
Who’s HOT!
| Rod Barajas Splits |
G |
AB |
R |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
SB |
CS |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
| Last 7 days |
5 |
16 |
5 |
6 |
1 |
0 |
4 |
6 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
.375 |
.375 |
1.188 |
1.563 |
| Angel Pagan Splits |
G |
AB |
R |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
SB |
CS |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
| Last 7 days |
5 |
22 |
3 |
8 |
2 |
1 |
0 |
2 |
1 |
1 |
1 |
1 |
.364 |
.391 |
0.545 |
0.937 |
| David Wright Splits |
G |
AB |
R |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
SB |
CS |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
| Last 7 days |
6 |
25 |
4 |
8 |
1 |
0 |
4 |
7 |
0 |
8 |
0 |
1 |
.320 |
.320 |
.840 |
1.160 |
Who’s NOT!
| Jason Bay Splits |
G |
AB |
R |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
SB |
CS |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
| Last 7 days |
6 |
23 |
2 |
3 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
1 |
6 |
1 |
0 |
.130 |
.192 |
0.174 |
0.366 |
| Ike Davis Splits |
G |
AB |
R |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
SB |
CS |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
| Last 7 days |
5 |
17 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
3 |
6 |
0 |
0 |
.176 |
.300 |
0.235 |
0.535 |
| Jose Reyes Splits |
G |
AB |
R |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
SB |
CS |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
| Last 7 days |
6 |
27 |
1 |
5 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
4 |
0 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
.185 |
.185 |
0.259 |
0.444 |
| Jeff Francoeur Splits |
G |
AB |
R |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
SB |
CS |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
| Last 7 days |
6 |
16 |
3 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
2 |
2 |
0 |
.188 |
.300 |
0.375 |
0.675 |
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55 comments
stickguy
5/7/2010-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
I must be psychic.
when I saw the title of this ost, I said that pagan and wright were it. Just forgot Barajas. ANd that not-hot was the rest of the team.
ceetar
5/7/2010-2:52pm at 2:52 pm (UTC -4)
Hmm, Davis is hitting .176 recently. There’s a guy down in Buffalo that can play first hitting .286, 1 HR, 8 RBI.
(this is a joke btw)
but I’m not so sure Davis is actually ready to stick here. He certainly looks like it at times, but let’s see if/when he bounces back off this stretch. I’m a little disturbed by the double standard that seems to think he’s the golden boy and that he’s doing perfectly and is definitely ready to be the full time 1Bman.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:01pm at 3:01 pm (UTC -4)
Well keep in mind that he has had a hit his last 3 games and has reached base in every game he has played in with a hit or a walk except for 1 game April 25th vs Atl.
ceetar
5/7/2010-3:16pm at 3:16 pm (UTC -4)
still, if you look at all the super-manager Mets fans that know how to make a lineup better than Manuel (and taht’s only semi-faceitous..) so many are sliding Ike to second or fourth even thought he’s not exactly smashing theball.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:17pm at 3:17 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:24pm at 3:24 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed 100% that Ike is no where near ready to be moved up in the lineup as a matter of fact I recently had this conversation that it is unfair to move Ike any higher than where he is hitting right now in the lineup.
stickguy
5/7/2010-3:01pm at 3:01 pm (UTC -4)
If nothing else, he is at least, IMO, playing a solid 1B and solidifying the defense. And that has a lot of value.
but, if he slumps for a while longer, and they decide to send him down for mor eseasoning, I got no problem with that, since they are still in the race (if they were well out of the running, I would say leave him up to learn on the job).
I think he will be here though. Jacobs ain’t coming back, I don’t see Murphy taking the job back (and he won’t be ready for a while anyway), and since they seem to hate Carter, there isn’t any better option.
trs86
5/7/2010-2:53pm at 2:53 pm (UTC -4)
I like this feature. Hope it continues. Should you extend it to pitching?
trs86
5/7/2010-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
Whoever the hitting coach is in AAA lets bring him up. .276 .327 .433 .760 for our AAA team.
Highlighted by:
Rk BA OBP SLG OPS
2 Andy Green .370 .452 .519 .970
3 Jesus Feliciano* .366 .400 .465 .865
5 Chris Carter* .337 .393 .602 .995
7 Jason Pridie* .300 .353 .427 .780
8 Mike Jacobs* .286 .311 .500 .811
9 Russ Adams* .286 .328 .375 .703
10 Mike Hessman .283 .342 .606 .948
11 Ruben Tejada .256 .295 .329 .625
12 Fernando Martinez* .244 .294 .385 .679
13 Alex Cintron# .238 .273 .333 .606
14 Mike Cervenak .228 .238 .342 .579
15 Omir Santos .194 .216 .306 .522
16 Josh Thole* .176 .247 .279 .526
18 Luis Hernandez# .000 .143 .000 .143
26 Players .276 .327 .433 .760
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:05pm at 3:05 pm (UTC -4)
Again hitting coach is over rated.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:12pm at 3:12 pm (UTC -4)
Was not trying to start that up again. It’s not measurable at all. You say it does not and I say it does and yet neither of us can be proven right or wrong. Only way we will actually know if it has an effect is to fire Hojo. I guess even then we would not know for sure either so. You say hello Hojo and I say goodbye.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
LoL you don’t want to start that up and yet it is you that is saying bring up the AAA hitting coach.
Well since you brought it up I will tell you again Bay’s struggle is not HoJo’s fault if you feel otherwise that is your right but Bay has been hitting for a long time now and to say 1 coach is responsible for an entire team not hitting is laughable at best.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:26pm at 3:26 pm (UTC -4)
We already know yours and my feelings on this. My point with bring up the AAA hitting coach is that they are hitting and we are not.
No I don’t think Hojo is the reason Bay is struggling but I do think a decent hitting coach could help him get out of it and maybe Hojo will. I wonder why teams even have a hitting coach if they are that insignificant? Regardless we are talking about things that can’t be proven. You say it’s laughable that he is responsible and I say ultimately like it or not he IS responsible.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:31pm at 3:31 pm (UTC -4)
I agree and if you ask Hojo he will agree also that Hojo is responsible but in the end we all know he is just the scape goat.
It comes with the territory for a hitting coach.
Why does baseball have hitting coaches? So they can help hitters hit and that is what they are doing helping but that doesn’t mean it is their fault when a guy doesn’t hit anymore than it is their fault that a player is hitting.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:34pm at 3:34 pm (UTC -4)
Does not mean it’s a manager’s fault when they don’t win, well 90% of the time anyway. In the end I do NOT know that he is just the scape goat. Perhaps his method is not effective or he does a poor job of scouting the opponent or making in game adjustments. Maybe he’s just bad? How do we know what effect he has until he’s gone?
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
LoL so when Wright Beltran Delgado Castillo Reyes have good years he has nothing to do with that?
But when the team struggle he has something to do with that?
Again laughable.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:42pm at 3:42 pm (UTC -4)
Again laugh all you want. I never said he did not have anything to do with them hitting well. I have said the entire time we have no idea what his affect is on the team. All we know is that they have not been good situationally the last couple of years and they are not hitting this year. They have been very poor at adjusting to pitchers as the game goes on such as Livan recently. Thus again, you say that Hojo has nothing to do with that and I say he does. We will never know who has a clue what they are talking about or what is “laughable” until he is gone.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
LoL.
Oh TRS you are a funny, so they are not hitting this year?
I see well I see Barajas currently is hitting so is Wright I guess he has nothing to do with that but everything to do with everyone else not hitting.
Hojo the scapegoat This we all know even HoJo but the truth is as much as it kills you no hitting coach is responsible for an entire team not hitting.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:54pm at 3:54 pm (UTC -4)
We have already established that they ARE responsible for the team hitting. That’s why they get fired.
I would say that this: .236 .316 .377 .693 (the Mets team stats) is not hitting.
Again, you keep missing where I say that I have no idea if he is the cause of it or not and neither do you but ultimately the Mets as a team are not hitting and it’s his job to improve that.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-4:03pm at 4:03 pm (UTC -4)
Hojo’s job is to help the team with their hitting, correct.
If the team doesn’t hit is his job in jeapordy? Yes
Is it his or any hitting coaches fault when a entire team hits or doesnt hit? No
They are merely the scapegoat.
And now we have gone back full circle and that is Hitting coaches are overrated.
Think whatever you want but the fact remains no hitting coach is responsible for an entire team’s struggles.
trs86
5/7/2010-4:09pm at 4:09 pm (UTC -4)
Show me one fact that shows “no hitting coach is responsible for an entire team’s struggles”
I can’t show you one that he is nor can you show me one that he is not. It’s impossible to know his effect until he is no longer here. Again, you say that they are overrated and I believe they are not. What was that thing about opinions? This one currently can’t be proven what so ever. The only facts we have are this:
the Mets are in the bottom 4 of H, 2b, HR, RBI, BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, and OPS+ and as a group are hitting .236 .316 .377 .693 with a very talented group of hitters.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-4:16pm at 4:16 pm (UTC -4)
The fact that you even need to see such a stat says all that needs to be said.
It is not always about numbers step away use reason and you will see that what is being said to you is not about stats.
I can’t help it if you need stats to explain why one man is or isn’t responsible for what an entire team does offensively.
trs86
5/7/2010-4:21pm at 4:21 pm (UTC -4)
NJ that’s his job. Again the players ultimately have to perform but it’s his job to make sure the Mets get the most out of their hitters and he is currently failing.
trs86
5/7/2010-4:24pm at 4:24 pm (UTC -4)
NJ, gotta go. But let me ask you this. Is Hojo an effective hitting coach and if so how do you know?
I say he is not and I base that on what I see when I watch the games AND the stats that verify that.
We could go on and on like we already have but as I have said his job is to get the Mets to hit and he is failing at that job.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-4:35pm at 4:35 pm (UTC -4)
LoL, you really don’t get it do you?
Again for the umpteenth time It is his job to help them hit and he risks being fired if they don’t. Everyone knows this to be so no one has ever disputed that. The point is when he gets fired it is because he is the scapegoat because the reality is no one man is responsible for when an entire team hits or doesn’t hit.
You can deny this all you want but it is not about numbers.
Every hitter is it’s own person HoJo only offers suggestions some work some don’t no one man has all the answers to fix every hitter’s flaws if such a man existed he would be worth his weight in gold times infinity.
No such man exists or has ever existed.
ceetar
5/7/2010-3:27pm at 3:27 pm (UTC -4)
Who was the last Mets hitter to have an obviously above-average career year?
trs86
5/7/2010-3:28pm at 3:28 pm (UTC -4)
Above his average or above MLB average? His average I would say Pagan.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:31pm at 3:31 pm (UTC -4)
Santos?
As far as above average career year on an MLB scale? Uh… Uh…
ceetar
5/7/2010-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
Santos was better than himself, but his level wasn’t even really acceptable for a major league catcher so it doesn’t really count.
Pagan would be a decent one, but I’m not sure about that. He had some time before HoJo and he doesn’t exactly have a long established career (only 150 games or so prior to the Mets..actually, he’s probably just about to cross the line of more games as a Met (majors) than a Cub. If anything, he’s hitting pretty much right around where he has his entire time with the Mets.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:38pm at 3:38 pm (UTC -4)
Hasn’t Hojo been with him the entire time? I obviously am not defending Hojo? Just stretching it a little.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
How about Frenchy?
ceetar
5/7/2010-3:47pm at 3:47 pm (UTC -4)
You may be right, I Hojo was hitting coach since beginning of 2008?
so Pagan and Frenchy. All in all I guess that’s not really a horrible job. I don’t know how much a hitting coach really helps with slumps, which usually defy logic and analysis anyway. Maybe a good one can help make them a little shorter.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
Perhaps, even more than slumps I am concerned with approach. Like last year, Jerry may have damaged things with that go the other way all the damn time approach. Perhaps Hojo’s approach is something that does not mesh with the players? I have no idea. I know that Ojeda has came out openly about a disagreement he has with Hojo over Wright. I am also very concerned with what seems like a lack of ability to make adjustments during the game. How against a guy like Livan it appears either they don’t have a plan or the plan is not working and they never adjust.
Again, you could say that a player should be able to adjust without a hitting coach and that is most likely true. However, in my opinion Hojo has not been effective at his job and that is to get the Mets to hit. Regardless of who’s fault it is. We will never ultimately know Hojo’s effect until he is fired.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:29pm at 3:29 pm (UTC -4)
Damn do I ever agree with this post on Metsblog:
in the case of the Mets and Francisco Rodriguez, during their series with the Reds in Cincinnati this week, i understand the argument, but in most cases, waiting to use the closer for a save situation forces a manager to use a less effective reliever to try and bridge that gap, and like what happened this week, the Mets never got to their closer in their extra inning games…
…i think sometimes managers need to simply go with their best hand, especially when the team needs a win…there is no way to know if K-Rod would have given up the winning run in either of those games, but i am of the belief that if a team is going to lose, then they should always lose playing their best, with their best players on the field at any given time, and on Wednesday in particular, i’m not sure the Mets had their best possible players on the field when they lost…ultimately, wins are the most important statistic, and not who earns the win, or who earns the save…
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:35pm at 3:35 pm (UTC -4)
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
They lost
trs86
5/7/2010-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
Yup they sure did. But as a strategy I have never understood saving the closer. Saving him for what? If you don’t get to the next inning there is nothing to save him for. Maybe you score 8 runs the next inning who knows? But what we do know is that if you save your closer you run the risk of losing the game with an inferior pitcher on the mound with your superior pitcher having not thrown a pitch at all.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:41pm at 3:41 pm (UTC -4)
That is what makes baseball a great game there is no one way to do things. Obviously some like this strategy and some don’t sometimes it works sometimes it fails.
We lost Oh well.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:43pm at 3:43 pm (UTC -4)
We lost in my opinion because that is bad strategy. Oh well.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-3:52pm at 3:52 pm (UTC -4)
Like you said your opinion something we all have.
trs86
5/7/2010-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
Oh well.
I am confused are you saying that we should not debate Manuel’s idiotic moves? Poor Ceetar is done then.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-4:12pm at 4:12 pm (UTC -4)
I reread my comments to see why you would think I am saying one should not debate Manuel’s moves. When in fact all I said is that is what is great about baseball that there is no one way to do something. Some simply like one strategy over another.
We lost with a strategy that many people feel is the way to do things if you want to debate it then go ahead because I don’t recall seeing anyone saying not to.
I simply said we lost. If you think we lost because of something Jerry did fine I am sure many agree with your opinion and many don’t.
trs86
5/7/2010-4:13pm at 4:13 pm (UTC -4)
Yup.
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-4:17pm at 4:17 pm (UTC -4)
ceetar
5/7/2010-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
as i replied there, it really kills Francesa’s Manuel defending argument.
(oh, and he defending Manuel leaving Santana in cause Takahashi was apparently in the bathroom?)
ceetar
5/7/2010-3:59pm at 3:59 pm (UTC -4)
Their core four — Rollins, Howard, Chase Utley and Jayson Werth — are special, and each had big hits against the Cardinals Thursday.
omg Jon Heyman thinks the Phillies are just oh so awesome. And Rollins hits from the DL! wow!
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jon_heyman/05/07/phillies.pujols/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0nH9CUhhS
trs86
5/7/2010-4:02pm at 4:02 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe they were talking about after the game? Oh wait Myers is gone.
trs86
5/7/2010-4:01pm at 4:01 pm (UTC -4)
Ultimately the Mets are in the bottom 4 of H, 2b, HR, RBI, BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, and OPS+ with a very talented group of hitters.
ceetar
5/7/2010-4:07pm at 4:07 pm (UTC -4)
Near the top (giants above them) for opposing team’s BA with RISP.
trs86
5/7/2010-4:12pm at 4:12 pm (UTC -4)
Hmmm that would be against the pitchers right?
ceetar
5/7/2010-4:13pm at 4:13 pm (UTC -4)
Sicne i’m a link machine today: Will Ferrell apparently threw a pitch in a minor league game and then precedes to do all sorts of silly stufF?
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100507&content_id=9865792&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-5:02pm at 5:02 pm (UTC -4)
trs86 says:
Friday, May 7 2010 at 4:24 pm
NJ, gotta go. But let me ask you this. Is Hojo an effective hitting coach and if so how do you know?
I say he is not and I base that on what I see when I watch the games AND the stats that verify that.
We could go on and on like we already have but as I have said his job is to get the Mets to hit and he is failing at that job.
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REPLY:
Define effective.
Was Hojo effectively the reason when a player had a good year and was Hojo effectively the reason when a player struggled? This is not a yes or no answer. You would like it to be but it is not.
Hojo helps where he can sometimes his suggestions work sometimes they don’t. The fact remains he understands this is a results oriented position and when a team struggles to hit the 1st to go is the hitting coach. No one will argue that but that does not mean it is a hitting coach’s fault when a team struggles offensively just that he is held responsible.
You want to believe that the reason a team hits is because of one man. The hitting coach? I can’t help you with that except to say that I believe you my friend are just wrong.
stickguy
5/7/2010-5:13pm at 5:13 pm (UTC -4)
I look at it this way.
I can’t definitively point to anything to say he is “bad”, or the reason the team is not hitting.
But, I also (and maybe more so) can’t point to anything to say that he is helping, and making them “better”.
So, the tie breaker (as always) goes to the #s, and those don’t work in his favor!
One point that TRS makes that I agree with is the approach side of the job tends to get overlooked (with everyone focusing on the mechanical). THe swing doctor type transformations aren’t really that common I don’t think. You got Rudy J and his miracles, but how many have to do with hitting in that ballpark, tough to say!
Maybe they need two guys on some teams? A technician to analyze and fix swings, and a strategist to analyze other temas pitchers, and develop the game plan of attack?
Frnakly, it is quite possible that a guy could be great at one, and not the other. So why can’t teams add a couple more coaches if that is what it takes?
Football teams have about 10 assisitant coaches, don’t they? Every damn position just about has it’s own coach now.
stickguy
5/7/2010-5:15pm at 5:15 pm (UTC -4)
probably not worth arguing about though. I expect that Hojo is here as long as Jerry is, but if Jerry gets axed mid-year, all the coaches go with him.
After the season, it is possible that the new guy (and there damned well better be a new guy!) could want to keep some coaches. Who knows?
Mr North Jersey
5/7/2010-5:30pm at 5:30 pm (UTC -4)
Another year of Manuel? Now there’s a scary thought Barring a trip to the NLCS I would hope Jerry is no where to be found in 2011. Even then I would be hard pressed to say I want Jerry back.
trs86
5/7/2010-6:12pm at 6:12 pm (UTC -4)
I am going to go out on a short limb and say that if your Armageddon situation occurs this weekend and we get swept with again the offense struggling that it will be lights out for Hojo the Insignificant.