Jeff Wilpon, Omar Minaya, John Ricco, Jerry Manuel now talking in Jerry’s office with the door closed.
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May 17
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56 comments
rustyjr
5/17/2010-3:58pm at 3:58 pm (UTC -4)
Playing magic the gathering perhaps ?
njstuckintx
5/17/2010-4:00pm at 4:00 pm (UTC -4)
Lotus, Land, Channel, Fireball, game over!
ceetar
5/17/2010-4:02pm at 4:02 pm (UTC -4)
Mountain, to be specific.
njstuckintx
5/17/2010-4:07pm at 4:07 pm (UTC -4)
Or Tiaga, Badlands, or Plateau.
njstuckintx
5/17/2010-4:08pm at 4:08 pm (UTC -4)
Volcanic Island as well. Ah, the good old days.
ceetar
5/17/2010-4:17pm at 4:17 pm (UTC -4)
These were super old days. the Lotus and Mox’s went out of print as overpowered pretty fast. as did the dual lands.
njstuckintx
5/17/2010-4:19pm at 4:19 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, I started when back with Arabian Nights and Unlimited were the releases. Played for a while, sold my deck for $1500. Looking on it now, had I held on, I could have sold my deck for $6K or more. Who would have thunk it.
ceetar
5/17/2010-4:25pm at 4:25 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve still got all my cards. If I could find the time and/or money I might even consider playing again. I always enjoyed it. I started just after the Dark I think, so I just missed most of teh real valuable cards.
prismo
5/17/2010-4:00pm at 4:00 pm (UTC -4)
Jerry’s out of the meeting, apparently was NOT fired yet.
tkfj
5/17/2010-4:00pm at 4:00 pm (UTC -4)
Jerry fired…..
Omar put on watch…..
In an ideal world.
prismo
5/17/2010-4:00pm at 4:00 pm (UTC -4)
Warthen up next.
stickguy
5/17/2010-4:02pm at 4:02 pm (UTC -4)
maybe they were telling jerry the coaches were going?
udontmesswthejohan
5/17/2010-4:05pm at 4:05 pm (UTC -4)
And the beat goes on…
darknova306
5/17/2010-4:05pm at 4:05 pm (UTC -4)
Reading all the writers’ tweets about what’s going on it really seems like they’re making a big spectacle out of this. Something better actually change after it’s all over.
Mr North Jersey
5/17/2010-4:05pm at 4:05 pm (UTC -4)
Manuel briefly leaves closed door meeting, returns to meeting with Warthen, Randy Niemann, trainer Ray Ramirez. 5 minutes ago via txt
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DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-4:10pm at 4:10 pm (UTC -4)
I sense one ore more coach(es) are getting fired.
Where’s HoJo?
tkfj
5/17/2010-4:07pm at 4:07 pm (UTC -4)
Here goes the Mets being Hollywood about it again.
Only problem is, not a damn thing will be done.
prismo
5/17/2010-4:08pm at 4:08 pm (UTC -4)
At least it’s entertaining!
tkfj
5/17/2010-4:14pm at 4:14 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe. But if I wanted to be entertained by melodramatics I could watch a soap opera or the documentary LA Lakers-Kobe/Shaq years.
Who am I kidding though, this team has been a soap opera since Sept 07.
GravediggerHebner
5/17/2010-4:08pm at 4:08 pm (UTC -4)
I am guessing this has more to do with what to do with the pitching staff/roster machinations given the Niese/Ollie issues than it does with firing anyone.
darknova306
5/17/2010-4:12pm at 4:12 pm (UTC -4)
Don’t crush our hope that the axe is coming… that’s all we have left. :p
prismo
5/17/2010-4:14pm at 4:14 pm (UTC -4)
+1
GravediggerHebner
5/17/2010-4:15pm at 4:15 pm (UTC -4)
That is sad.
GravediggerHebner
5/17/2010-4:16pm at 4:16 pm (UTC -4)
But seriously, I think that’s at least as logical an explanation for why the pitching coach, bullpen coach & trainer are in the meeting but the hitting coach is not as is the hitting coach is being fired. Cuz that’s the alternative in my eyes to a roster move – HoJo being canned, not Jerry. But they wouldn’t really need Neimann’s and Warthen’s input on hitting coach.
ceetar
5/17/2010-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe it’s like how Jerry used to make the pitchers stay on the mound to hand teh ball off to their successor. One day Bobby V’s gonna come in on a bullpen cart out of CF and just climb into the dugout.
darknova306
5/17/2010-4:21pm at 4:21 pm (UTC -4)
Oh I agree, I just very much want change. It sucks to turn on a game with the only expectation being that I’ll see a new form of ineptitude on the field.
GravediggerHebner
5/17/2010-4:27pm at 4:27 pm (UTC -4)
Understood. But I don’t think coaching staff turnover, either a single coach or a huge purge, is going to change that.
It’s David Wright that can’t recognize a pitch or prefers to backhand balls than get in front of them defensively, it’s Jose Reyes who pops everything up, it’s Ollie and now Maine that can’t throw strikes, it’s KRod whose forgotten how to close. The coaches aren’t responsible for these highly paid professionals spitting the bit. I don’t see how Ricky Bones or Bob Melvin or blank are going to alter any of that. That stuff isn’t likely to change without benefit of a spring training to implement a plan and practice it.
Mr North Jersey
5/17/2010-4:31pm at 4:31 pm (UTC -4)
You don’t think firing HoJo will fix the hitting situation?
GravediggerHebner
5/17/2010-4:54pm at 4:54 pm (UTC -4)
Perhaps. Not strongly enough to advocate for it.
A baseball season is very long, and it feels even longer when the team isn’t doing well. I see firing hitting coaches as, I’m trying to find the right way to put this, ummm…
I am failing to find a less insulting way to put this so please understand I’m not referring to those who want coaches fired as children, but for lack of a fairer phrase I think firing coaches is like offering a child a shiny penny for their dirty quarter.
That’s not the best analogy but I have to run and I can’t think of a better one. Three card monty?
No offense intended to those who want coaching changes I’ll try and think of a better way to put it for later.
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-4:54pm at 4:54 pm (UTC -4)
yes with HoJo gone, this team will go 120-4.
4 games are lost when Ollie is given 2nd chance to start.
Mr North Jersey
5/17/2010-5:04pm at 5:04 pm (UTC -4)
I agree with you. I personally find the whole firing a hitting coach mentality is more to send a signal than actually trying to fix the problem since I feel hitting coaches impact on players are over rated.
I just thought you was one of the it’s HoJo’s fault that Mets are not hitting.
darknova306
5/17/2010-4:32pm at 4:32 pm (UTC -4)
It might not change everything overnight, but we might be able to see improvement over the course of the season. Also, a manager that’s not as dopey as our current one would immediately help things, at least a little. No more giving away outs with ridiculous bunts, etc.
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-4:57pm at 4:57 pm (UTC -4)
I think change in managers and coaches may change the approach these hitters/pitchers take. Perhaps more and/or better game planning can be done with different manager/coaches.
I mean look at the way offense is approaching the plate. Swing at first pitch you see. Swing as hard as you can.
darknova306
5/17/2010-4:19pm at 4:19 pm (UTC -4)
So is the state of this team.
GravediggerHebner
5/17/2010-4:24pm at 4:24 pm (UTC -4)
That’s fair.
But it’s not like that is a shock or surprise, is it?
darknova306
5/17/2010-4:26pm at 4:26 pm (UTC -4)
Sadly, no.
njstuckintx
5/17/2010-4:22pm at 4:22 pm (UTC -4)
It makes sense, but does that require Omar’s attendance? They have things like Skype these days.
metsfan4decades
5/17/2010-5:38pm at 5:38 pm (UTC -4)
Exactly what I was thinking.
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-4:12pm at 4:12 pm (UTC -4)
AdamRubinESPN
Sounds like R.A. Dickey may be joining the Mets. No official announcement. That could mean he’s starting Wednesday … or backing up Valdes.
uhhh…. against the Phillies?
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-4:13pm at 4:13 pm (UTC -4)
scratch that… I’m already looking at a week ahead.
ceetar
5/17/2010-4:15pm at 4:15 pm (UTC -4)
Wednesday’s starter is slotted for the Phillies opener actually.
ceetar
5/17/2010-4:14pm at 4:14 pm (UTC -4)
no, this wednesday against the Nats. but sounds like Rubin’s just speculating and guessing right now.
ceetar
5/17/2010-4:26pm at 4:26 pm (UTC -4)
ahh, it’s because he has a locker. Which is kind of odd, as they wouldn’t havea starter until Wednesday..in a different city.
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-4:28pm at 4:28 pm (UTC -4)
maybe they are thinking Niese could go on the DL?
ceetar
5/17/2010-4:33pm at 4:33 pm (UTC -4)
yeah, but if Dickey isn’t with the team now, even if they DL Niese, are they going to bring Dickey down here tomorrow, and have him dress if he’s not even going to pitch?
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-4:39pm at 4:39 pm (UTC -4)
well he might pitch out of the BP which means Valdes will get the start on Wed.
Or this could all be a ploy where they will bring in a mysterious SP that throws 120 mph FB and 80 mph change up.
ceetar
5/17/2010-4:57pm at 4:57 pm (UTC -4)
his nameplate has now been removed. that was fast.
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-5:20pm at 5:20 pm (UTC -4)
LOL.. that was RA’s 15 minutes of fame…
tkfj
5/17/2010-4:33pm at 4:33 pm (UTC -4)
If all this really is, is dicussing potential rotation replacements and other lineup issues, what is the point of Wilpon making the trip down?
Is there a way to handle this discreetly without blowing things out of proportion? You know, like a conference call/dicussion. Was it neccessary for Jeffy to fly down to Atlanta, if this was the main issue?
njstuckintx
5/17/2010-4:46pm at 4:46 pm (UTC -4)
That’s what I said above. No reason for him to come on down that can’t be done via conference call/Skype. There is something more to this.
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-4:52pm at 4:52 pm (UTC -4)
LOL Skype!
stickguy
5/17/2010-5:05pm at 5:05 pm (UTC -4)
man, this team just likes to screw with the fans. get us all excited for something good finally, and it may just be an organizational regrouping to decide on Dickey? Like they couldn’t just have a conference call to come up with that?
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/17/2010-5:36pm at 5:36 pm (UTC -4)
Listening to Steve Phillips & MF interview. Very interesting discussion on the business side of the baseball. I know those two guys aren’t exactly the fan favorites, but still very interesting.
metsfan4decades
5/17/2010-5:45pm at 5:45 pm (UTC -4)
I would have to be really bored and/or looking for something to fill background noise because it’s too quiet to ever listen to these two together.
I gave it a shot the 3 hours MF first had Phillips on – after he announced he’d have like a weekly spot with him. Three long hours talking mostly about Phillips addiction and treatment plus taking calls on said addiction and treatment – on a sports talk radio drive by afternoon show.
MF just annoys me most days and Phillips – who I don’t think is all that smart a baseball guy – went on my list that Sunday night ESPN game where he went off on a rant about Beltran.
stickguy
5/17/2010-5:45pm at 5:45 pm (UTC -4)
well, now that Jeffy and Jerry have spoken (steady as she goes!), just gotta say dang it.
they had a chance to try and clean up some of the mess, while they are still close enough and with enough time for it to matter, and are too wimpish to pull the trigger.
So instead, we will be stuck with Jerry and the coaches for probably the entire year (unless things get so bad they can’t put it off any longer, but by then it won’t matter)\
And the saddest thing is, almost guaranteed that they are all cut loose at the end of the season to get the team a fresh start, and they all probably know it.
metsfan4decades
5/17/2010-6:17pm at 6:17 pm (UTC -4)
There’s still time for this year. I have to agree with a few others who said if they’re thinking about it, it probably wouldn’t be done before the Yankee series.