According to Matt Cerrone at Metsblog: News: Jon Niese on the DL, RA Dickey Promoted
May 19
Dickey Up, Niese to the DL
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65 comments
stickguy
5/19/2010-3:07pm at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)
so I guess we find out this weekend if mejia or acosta goes down for Iggy.
njstuckintx
5/19/2010-3:14pm at 3:14 pm (UTC -4)
Please please please be Mejia. Instill some faith in me that the FO knows what is going on and what to do.
prismo
5/19/2010-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
Unrelated: Does anyone know how to see how many lineup iterations Jerry has used this season?
trs86
5/19/2010-3:12pm at 3:12 pm (UTC -4)
How many games have we played?
prismo
5/19/2010-3:14pm at 3:14 pm (UTC -4)
Haha, 40. I know it’s close to that…almost definitely in the 30s.
trs86
5/19/2010-3:14pm at 3:14 pm (UTC -4)
Actually believe it or not the most awesome stat site on the planet has this info:
25 total batting orders
This being your most common at 8 games, the rest are 3 games or less.
# Pagan
# Castillo
# Reyes
# Bay
# Wright
# Davis
# Francoeur
# Barajas
prismo
5/19/2010-3:17pm at 3:17 pm (UTC -4)
What site? I want to compare that to other teams!
prismo
5/19/2010-3:18pm at 3:18 pm (UTC -4)
I found it.
prismo
5/19/2010-3:20pm at 3:20 pm (UTC -4)
Phillies: 15
Florida: 21
Braves: 28
Nationals: 34
So believe it or not, the Mets are in the middle of the pack! At least in the NL East
trs86
5/19/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah too bad the most used lineup was the one no one liked.
saltygary
5/19/2010-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
Jeez I knew it was high but that is pretty wild. I would love to know how many iterations the ’86 team had, 3?
I thought I aways read that playes are more comfortable with stagnate lineups?
prismo
5/19/2010-3:23pm at 3:23 pm (UTC -4)
You’re going to be shocked!
’86 Mets had 93 iterations. The most common was only used 7 times.
1 Dykstra
2 Backman
3 Hernandez
4 Carter
5 Strawberry
6 Wilson
7 Knight
8 Santana
saltygary
5/19/2010-3:26pm at 3:26 pm (UTC -4)
Holy Crap, I am! Are you getting this from baseballreference.com?
prismo
5/19/2010-3:28pm at 3:28 pm (UTC -4)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYM/1986-batting-orders.shtml
saltygary
5/19/2010-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
I think why I am shocked is the middle of the lineup was always the same of stache, kid, and straw always in the same spots.
saltygary
5/19/2010-3:39pm at 3:39 pm (UTC -4)
The 2000 team had 118 different lineups with the most common at 9 games being:
1 Mora
2 Bell
3 Alfonzo
4 Piazza
5 Ventura
6 Zeile
7 Payton
8 Agbayani
9 Pitcher
How the hell did that team make it to the series. The is a great work diversion.
stickguy
5/19/2010-3:43pm at 3:43 pm (UTC -4)
3 4 5 and the pitching carried them
saltygary
5/19/2010-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
Alfonzo was my boy. Best 2 strike hitter in that era.
saltygary
5/19/2010-3:41pm at 3:41 pm (UTC -4)
1999 was only 76 and the most common at 27 is:
1. Henderson
2. Alfonzo
3. Olerud
4. Piazza
5. Ventura
6. Hamilton
7. Cedeno
8. Ordonez
9. Pitcher
This was a much better lineup with Olerud. Completely forgot about hamilton.
stickguy
5/19/2010-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
best 2-5 they probably ever had that year I think. Even better than 1986
saltygary
5/19/2010-3:53pm at 3:53 pm (UTC -4)
Your probably right.
My Opinion Offensively:
Alfonzo>Backman
Olerud>Hernandez
Piazza>Carter
Ventura<Strawberry
Not to mention the best defensive infield in the history of the game
ceetar
5/19/2010-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
The Mets infield has already surpassed the 1999 version in errors.
ceetar
5/19/2010-3:59pm at 3:59 pm (UTC -4)
Actually I’m wrong, only halfway there. 14, to 27.
njstuckintx
5/19/2010-4:05pm at 4:05 pm (UTC -4)
Salty, I know Keith is big time legend now, but I still would prefer him. Less bat, but better D. agree on the others though.
saltygary
5/19/2010-4:40pm at 4:40 pm (UTC -4)
Don’t know about having better D Olerud was pretty excellent. But I hear ya I think most of us hold Hernandez in higher regard over Olerud due to his history with the team.
njstuckintx
5/19/2010-4:41pm at 4:41 pm (UTC -4)
If Ole had a Stache, he just may beat out Mex!
saltygary
5/19/2010-4:44pm at 4:44 pm (UTC -4)
oh case closed.
njstuckintx
5/19/2010-3:47pm at 3:47 pm (UTC -4)
93? And you know why? It wasn’t all the tinkering, it was playing the best lineup with the players davey was putting out. With Jerry, it feels likes it all experiment, all the time.
saltygary
5/19/2010-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
Totally agree. Just throwing crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.
ceetar
5/19/2010-3:20pm at 3:20 pm (UTC -4)
Dickey is #43, btw.
saltygary
5/19/2010-3:22pm at 3:22 pm (UTC -4)
What is how many pitches thrown in the 1st inning?
GravediggerHebner
5/19/2010-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
Prismo
Given that we have a knuckleballer going tonight, any info on tonight’s wind speed and direction as it relates to Nationals Park’s home plate?
prismo
5/19/2010-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
Very light winds. They shouldn’t be a factor.
stickguy
5/19/2010-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
light winds? Probably because you won’t have all the breeze from the mighty swing and misses from DW tonight.
GravediggerHebner
5/19/2010-3:52pm at 3:52 pm (UTC -4)
Well if the knuckler isn’t going to be helped by the wind I’ll take solace that it doesn’t sound like it will be hurt either.
Thank you for the info!
prismo
5/19/2010-4:16pm at 4:16 pm (UTC -4)
I decided not to go to the game tonight for no good reason.
Therefore, I’m sure the Mets will win in a blow-out.
GravediggerHebner
5/19/2010-4:30pm at 4:30 pm (UTC -4)
What do you mean “no good reason?” The single of the cast of Glee with Neil Patrick Harris singing “Dream On” was just released.
Or it cold be Dickey’s 17.18 career ERA versus the Nationals, either reason seems good.
saltygary
5/19/2010-4:42pm at 4:42 pm (UTC -4)
If your close tomorrow would be better due to weather and hopefully a better lineup.
prismo
5/19/2010-4:43pm at 4:43 pm (UTC -4)
I can’t.
My coworker is out for the day, and I have to cover til 10pm.
Otherwise I was planning on going and meeting up with a couple other Mets bloggers after the game. It sucks.
DNDJohan aka kistics
5/19/2010-5:33pm at 5:33 pm (UTC -4)
Prismo, can you do the wind dance? I think it would go a long way to get a win tonight. Thanks!
stickguy
5/19/2010-3:49pm at 3:49 pm (UTC -4)
I think he is going to the game. So maybe he can lick his finger, stick it in the air, then tweet about it?
oleosmirf
5/19/2010-3:57pm at 3:57 pm (UTC -4)
Yunesky Maya is finally a free agent. too bad the Mets will likely pass
metsfan4decades
5/19/2010-4:42pm at 4:42 pm (UTC -4)
I had read that earlier and they really better be taking a long look at him. With the state of our pitching, how can Omar not?
oleosmirf
5/19/2010-5:28pm at 5:28 pm (UTC -4)
b/c its the Mets…rational thinking and common sense don’t apply
prismo
5/19/2010-4:44pm at 4:44 pm (UTC -4)
Jerry: Ike to remain cleanup long-term
(-Rubin)
Uhhhh.
stickguy
5/19/2010-4:46pm at 4:46 pm (UTC -4)
long term? In Jerryville, with the ADD, that is what, 2 games?
trs86
5/19/2010-5:42pm at 5:42 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t mind it.
I would assume
Reyes, Castillo, Wright, Davis, Bay, Pagan, Barajas, Frenchy.
Hazmet
5/19/2010-5:24pm at 5:24 pm (UTC -4)
Miscellaneous Crap:
http://www.theroot.com/views/how-sammy-sosa-went-back-black?gt1=38002
Cue the AC/DC.
Oh my beautiful wickedness, oh what a world what a world…
trs86
5/19/2010-5:51pm at 5:51 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, on Metsblog there are some posters who think we should trade Wright for Lee. One even brought his wealth of knowledge into the discussion by saying Wright alone could not get Lee. I swear some Mets fans are embarrassing.
Mr North Jersey
5/19/2010-6:16pm at 6:16 pm (UTC -4)
Why even bother with such stuff?
All Blogs are full of people with idiotic trades.
Hazmet
5/19/2010-6:19pm at 6:19 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah yeah, like Ollie Perez for Hanley Ramirez j/k
Mr North Jersey
5/19/2010-6:22pm at 6:22 pm (UTC -4)
lol
metsfan4decades
5/19/2010-6:22pm at 6:22 pm (UTC -4)
Or Carlin and Shein on the Loudmouths saying if Omar was smart, he’d pick the phone up right now, call the Marlins and offer Reyes for Ramirez straight up.
Yup, just what we need another head case.
I’ll give them two points though for saying no to a Wright/Ramirez trade. But the reason they gave for not making this trade is the same reason they should not do the Reyes one: ‘Ramirez has big character issues and you don’t trade a struggling talent for one of close to better talent for a guy with this type of character issues’.
trs86
5/19/2010-6:25pm at 6:25 pm (UTC -4)
Uh, I trade Reyes for Ramirez anytime but you guys already know that.
metsfan4decades
5/19/2010-6:34pm at 6:34 pm (UTC -4)
Not with Jerry as manager. If Freddie can’t keep him under control, it’s a sure bet Jerry isn’t going to be able to.
trs86
5/19/2010-6:45pm at 6:45 pm (UTC -4)
All I can say is that out of control guy hit .342 .410 .543 .954 last year with 24 HR and 27 steals.
Hazmet
5/19/2010-6:35pm at 6:35 pm (UTC -4)
As a diehard Reyes fan, it pay’s me to agree. Realistically, that’s probably not enough to get it done.
Hazmet
5/19/2010-6:36pm at 6:36 pm (UTC -4)
*pains me
trs86
5/19/2010-6:46pm at 6:46 pm (UTC -4)
He’s no where near enough to get it done.
saltygary
5/19/2010-6:56pm at 6:56 pm (UTC -4)
I would get that done in a heartbeat. Maybe if they throw Dickey and Ollie into the mix to spice it up.
metsfan4decades
5/19/2010-6:27pm at 6:27 pm (UTC -4)
LOL – Carlin’s goat on Loud Mouths is Phillies skipper Charlie Manual.
–For leaving his ace out there for a complete 126 PC game against the Pirates – in May.
Said he knows he’s a work horse but there is absolutely no reason you need to leave him out there this early, with that high of a PC against the Pirates.
I’m wondering if it wasn’t a little bit padding his stats for complete games or the state of their BP – or a bit of both.
trs86
5/19/2010-6:32pm at 6:32 pm (UTC -4)
I think it was just he’s your ace you leave him out there. If anything in a close game with RH on the mound why would you pull him for one of those bp guys?
metsfan4decades
5/19/2010-6:35pm at 6:35 pm (UTC -4)
Well, I wouldn’t with the state of Phillies BP either but I still say that arm is gonna fall off sooner rather than later…..
Hazmet
5/19/2010-6:40pm at 6:40 pm (UTC -4)
I looking forward to the second half rematch of Johan vs. Halladay. Get him on Johan’s second have turf dominance where Doc’ is a first half pitcher. Bizzare letting him go that deep against the Pirates considering the Phils are pretty well entrenched in first with a 4 game lead in May. Well, entrenched as far as May can be considered.
metsfan4decades
5/19/2010-7:00pm at 7:00 pm (UTC -4)
Well, since the Phills count on the long ball so much to score runs, I’m looking forward to a rematch at Citi field too.