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6/2/2010-1:36pm at 1:36 pm (UTC -4)
“This is a sad low for this blog.”
LOL, quite an entertaining discussion at the ole blog.
6/2/2010-1:48pm at 1:48 pm (UTC -4)
Some people are just a bunch of Lemmings. Cerrone is a hypocrite that doesn’t practice what he preaches and is now using what Francesa to get as much attention for his blog as possible. Hopefully trying to get air time with Francesa.
It goes to show how big Francesa is that a throwaway comment he makes is big news to bloggers that claim they hate him and still listen to him.
I have always been a fan of Francesa and knew many of the things he says is to stir things up so I never got too bothered like many Mets fans did. He will like it or not go down as one of the best sports talk radio voices in NY History. And deservedly so.
Watching Cerrone try to make something more of what Francesa said when he has always talked so badly about him and on his own blog doesnt allow for people to comment badly about him just sickens me to my stomache.
6/2/2010-1:54pm at 1:54 pm (UTC -4)
6/2/2010-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
Advertisement that’s all it is. Each sucker that calls in is a free plug. And why is Ceetar commenting over there?
6/2/2010-2:08pm at 2:08 pm (UTC -4)
He’s scared of the potential beatdown I’m inflicting him in FBB. Or we are bumming him out. Or he’s cruisin’ the block, looking for chicks.
6/2/2010-2:14pm at 2:14 pm (UTC -4)
I think where Ceetar comments is none of our concern. The last thing I want to see is people suggesting where one should comment not that I am inferring you are Salt just that your comment provoked that thought to come to my mind.
6/2/2010-2:28pm at 2:28 pm (UTC -4)
please dont take it like that. As everyone should know by now I am in a constant state of busting chops and making snarky comments.
6/2/2010-2:34pm at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)
I am not Salt that’s why i said I am not inferring that you did mean it like that. I just said what I did in hopes others don’t try to suggest such a thing.
6/2/2010-2:38pm at 2:38 pm (UTC -4)
Look I’m jealous I can’t post there. I tried for a month to get a new ID rights to post again just so I can be an A-hole.
6/2/2010-2:04pm at 2:04 pm (UTC -4)
stomache? is that what Keith has?
6/2/2010-2:07pm at 2:07 pm (UTC -4)
6/2/2010-2:15pm at 2:15 pm (UTC -4)
stomach you wus
Don’t u start with the spell check lol.
6/2/2010-2:16pm at 2:16 pm (UTC -4)
But we make fun of Cerrone for that? :O
6/2/2010-2:18pm at 2:18 pm (UTC -4)
And rightly so as a media source you should.
Just busting chops. If we can’t laugh a little here, what can we do? Answering “complain and argue” is not an acceptable answer!
I know u are
6/2/2010-2:09pm at 2:09 pm (UTC -4)
Also was just looking at WFAN’s site and under the BLOG tab MetsBlog is the first in the list. Mike should know what his station is trying to promote before he opens his fat mouth.
6/2/2010-2:17pm at 2:17 pm (UTC -4)
It is the official blog of the NY Mets. I dont think Mike commits to memory all the official sponsors of the NY Mets.
6/2/2010-2:36pm at 2:36 pm (UTC -4)
But as a business he should be aware of partners and relationships with other parties. For the WFAN I am sure they are trying to do everything they can to stay relevant seeing they are a AM station. Things like making fatcessa do video blogs, webcasts for the station, YES… It is also important for them to have relationships with folks like Daily News and Mattsblog since it gives them more outlets.
Though putting a smile on my face with his comment he needs to demonstrate that he embrace newer media and not be afraid of it.
For Matt I look at his post as noting more than crappy wrestler trying to get a cheep pop from his fans. Next he’ll write an entry on how much he loves NY.
I will say this, once mad dog left, the show did drop a couple of levels.
6/2/2010-1:56pm at 1:56 pm (UTC -4)
“this is all a big silly-fest.”
6/2/2010-2:40pm at 2:40 pm (UTC -4)
I agree. I thought the whole topic died the very afternoon it started.
What’s that old advertising maxim? “Never underestimate the stupidity of the American public” or something like that. Words to live and succeed by.
6/2/2010-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
I gagged when I saw The â€˜Ropolitans tweet they were selling Pelfrey Pride shirts on cafe press with the who reads blogs anyway in quotes below it.
6/2/2010-2:47pm at 2:47 pm (UTC -4)
are you kidding me!
I declare that I will pay anyone’s bail fees if they punch anyone out that wears that shirt.
6/2/2010-2:50pm at 2:50 pm (UTC -4)
Is that like Gay Pride? Not that there is anything wrong with that…
A fantastic example of not underestimating the stupidity of the American public.
Also a great shirt to wear to various NYC area pride-parades.
6/2/2010-3:10pm at 3:10 pm (UTC -4)
“You will never go wrong underestimating the intelligence of the American people.”
Variously credited to PT Barnum and HL Mencken.
I think Adlai Stevenson might have said it too….
6/2/2010-3:13pm at 3:13 pm (UTC -4)
Ah yes, from which comes the quote “there’s a sucker born every minute.” Nice call.
6/2/2010-3:20pm at 3:20 pm (UTC -4)
And I think the motto of a current politician those
of us from the
streets just call “Bam”!
6/2/2010-3:22pm at 3:22 pm (UTC -4)
I call Rick Santorum something different entirely
6/2/2010-3:25pm at 3:25 pm (UTC -4)
Mes think Lil Rickey’s outta da game.
6/2/2010-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
Every once in a while my prayers do get answered.
6/2/2010-3:32pm at 3:32 pm (UTC -4)
6/2/2010-3:31pm at 3:31 pm (UTC -4)
I would bet a large sum that it is pretty darn similar to what I call him!
And certainly the motto of EVERY president from the last 30 years.
6/2/2010-3:24pm at 3:24 pm (UTC -4)
6/2/2010-3:27pm at 3:27 pm (UTC -4)
And let’s leave it at that before the censoring starts!
6/2/2010-3:35pm at 3:35 pm (UTC -4)
That was MY intent!
6/2/2010-2:48pm at 2:48 pm (UTC -4)
speaking of McFatty, I happened to have him on in the car today agian (I blame MF for making me do this).
interrupting his rant about their not being any star OFs anymore (not like in the 60′s, when he was less than 250#), some guy called him, made a comment, then launched into how MF was too rough on Cerrrone.
Well, Mikey got all indignant, said he was just teasing the guy, and wasn’t going to waste is time taking calls about it, and hung up on the dude.
I guess you had to be there…
Oh, not sure if he is going to get slapped for it (like that Dodger GM, what’s his name) did, but the reason for no more stud OFs is because of the decrease in the # of black ball players.
6/2/2010-2:51pm at 2:51 pm (UTC -4)
“Oh, not sure if he is going to get slapped for it (like that Dodger GM, whatâ€™s his name) did, but the reason for no more stud OFs is because of the decrease in the # of black ball players.”
Who said that? Fatty McFattens?
6/2/2010-2:56pm at 2:56 pm (UTC -4)
Yes. The reason that back in the old days (60s/70s mostly from his examples), per MF, that all of the offensive starts were OFs is because there were more black players. As the % of them declined, the offenseive forces shifted to the infield.
At least while I was listening, he didn’t explain exactly why this was the case, but he did allude to how their were few black pitchers or infielders. And also that back then, it was rare to find a big bat at 2B, 3B or SS. Some at first, once in a while at third.
now all the big bats are on the infield. He used the Yankees as an extreme example!
I would like to here his detailed physio and socio analysis of why this was the case.
6/2/2010-2:58pm at 2:58 pm (UTC -4)
To be fair Mike didn’t say that was THE reason, just one of the reasons.
“I include Morneau because he’s attractive,” said Francesa.
Caller interrupts: “did you just say Morneau because he’s ‘attractive’?”
How long before that hits youtube.
6/2/2010-2:57pm at 2:57 pm (UTC -4)
6/2/2010-3:12pm at 3:12 pm (UTC -4)
The real question is whether Morneau is more attractive than Inge….or than a box of doughnuts…
I vote Doughnuts!!!!!
6/2/2010-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t know how this whole OF decline/superstars of baseball conversation started but it prompted me to look at some stats. I don’t have enough of an understanding of sabermetrics to bother looking at WAR or VORP or things like that, but I was checking out OPS leaders and there are not many OF in that group and none that I would comfortably call a “superstar.”
In 2009 there were 27 major leaguers with an OPS over .900, 7 were OF, 8 if you include Adam Dunn.
13th – Ryan Braun .937
15th – Adam Lind .932
18th – Adam Dunn .928
20th – Jason Bay .921
21st – J.D. Drew .914
22nd – Matt Holliday .909
23rd – Jason Kubel .907
27th – Brad Hawpe .903
Obviously that’s just one year, not exactly an ideal sample, but I would agree with the suggestion that this is not a list of “superstars of baseball.”
1-12 in 2009 OPS, none of whom are OF, has more guys I might refer to as “superstars.”
Pujols, Mauer, Fielder, Votto, Derrek Lee, Youkilis, Adrian Gonzalez, Hanley Ramirez, Teixeira, Zobrist, Sandoval & Miguel Cabrera.
6/2/2010-3:09pm at 3:09 pm (UTC -4)
I obviously missed something…
How did a post on MLB network and their ditty on Ollie morph into Cerrone and his current controversy with Francesa?
I’m outta the loop on this. LOL…
blame trs he started it. LoL
Anyone know if we’ll be going to a four man rotation for the next 3 weeks with 4 off days through the 21st?
6/2/2010-3:33pm at 3:33 pm (UTC -4)
I haven’t heard or read anything specific about that, but I thought it was telling when Pelfrey mentioned the upcoming schedule last night in the post game when questioned about whether he should have taken the mound to start the 9th inning or not. He referred to the idea that he thought he would go back in since he “wouldn’t be pitching again for 6 or 7 days.”
6/2/2010-3:34pm at 3:34 pm (UTC -4)
ALSO, wouldn’t this be a nice time
to get another hot streak goin’?
Johan today, the very ordinary Marlins
in town for 3 AFTER an off-day,
another off-day, THEN
SD in for 3…Then to Baltimore AND Cleveland, both terrible teams for
3 each, with yet another off-day in
b/t AND maybe Bel-Tron back DHing…
BEFORE we go up to the Bronx and
smack the yanks around in a couple
weeks. I’ll settle for 10 of 13
by the time we arrive at yankee stadium!
6/2/2010-3:38pm at 3:38 pm (UTC -4)
where do I sign up?
Any updates on Beltran? Did he call Craigie today?
I really can’t wait to have him back in the lineup.
Frenchy on the bench, GMJ at the airport.
Playing 9 in a couple weeks w/the DH would be the perfect spot for him to return!
I’d lower expectations a bit though b/c we don’t know how
long it’ll take for him to return to being Beltran again….If ever.
6/2/2010-3:47pm at 3:47 pm (UTC -4)
LOL – ‘GMJ at the airport’.
6/2/2010-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
Hopefully with a one-way ticket…..
6/2/2010-4:05pm at 4:05 pm (UTC -4)
Or just dropped
off via unairconditioned yellow cab….
No plane ticket!
6/2/2010-4:15pm at 4:15 pm (UTC -4)
6/2/2010-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
Do you trade for Lee if it costs Mejia or trade for Millwood which won’t cost as much?
You don’t trade Meijia.
6/2/2010-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
Hmm, I don’t know. Lee pretty much locks us up for a good playoff run.
6/2/2010-3:46pm at 3:46 pm (UTC -4)
Nothing locks up anything!
6/2/2010-3:54pm at 3:54 pm (UTC -4)
Locks us up for a good playoff run?
Would we be able to play every game at Citi?
6/2/2010-4:01pm at 4:01 pm (UTC -4)
gotta admit Santana-Lee-Pelf is better than Santana-Pelf-Niese?
6/2/2010-4:03pm at 4:03 pm (UTC -4)
RA Dickey Bro!
C’mon,Get on the Bus!
6/2/2010-4:10pm at 4:10 pm (UTC -4)
Santana-Pelf-Lee is magnificent, and I would love it.
I just would not trade Mejia or Ike for Lee. Maybe for Roy Harvey though.
I also very much doubt that Freddie and Jeff would give a 32-year old pitcher with a very checkered career the kind of deal he will want….the Yanks will though.
6/2/2010-4:39pm at 4:39 pm (UTC -4)
could go for gold and get both?
maybe Jeff finds his inner CAshmand
6/2/2010-4:02pm at 4:02 pm (UTC -4)
6/2/2010-3:42pm at 3:42 pm (UTC -4)
I would currently trade Mejia in a package for Lee. What might hurt would be who else would be included.
Right now Mejia is what, a 6th inning reliever, and one who is inconsistent at best? It sure seems from afar that the Mets don’t view him as a future starter or why isn’t he starting now? I understand that if they feel that way they wouldn’t go out of their way to say so publicly, precisely because that would diminish his value. So if he’s a future relief pitcher yeah I’ll part with one of those for Lee. If he becomes a very good starting pitcher from 2013 onward, hopefully the glow of the WS championship we got with Lee will make that pill easier to swallow.
Santana, Pelfrey, Lee in any particular order completely changes the dynamic of the NL post season race and makes me a believer that the Mets are a legit player.
6/2/2010-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
First, we’d have to be allowed the s/w him about a contract.
That won’t happen anyway as Philly moved
him b/c he made it clear he wanted to test the waters.
Second, RE: Meijia to
answer all your Q’s about him….HE IS 20
6/2/2010-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, I’m with Fongy on this. I wouldn’t trade Mejia or Ike, and prefer to not trade Niese. Even for Lee.
I don’t want to shoot for the moon when we are finally getting geared up for a good long run, based on the young core and kids on their way up.
6/2/2010-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
1. I know he would be with the Mets just for the balance of 2010, and then would declare for free agency. That’s not a surprise or a deterrent, I’m trying to “win now.” The NL is down at the moment, great time to strike IMO. The Mets are currently in the mix as is, Lee puts them above most of the fray.
2. I know how young Mejia is. If the Mets think of him as a future starter it just makes zero sense to me and most everybody else that he is in the ML bullpen now, pitching in low leverage situations. The Mets have other pitching prospects now and can add more next week and in the coming years. It will hurt to part with someone allegedly so talented but you have to give to get and the organization is not exactly steering him toward their future rotation anyway.
6/2/2010-3:53pm at 3:53 pm (UTC -4)
Plus you’d get the picks for him leaving, but I still wouldn’t want Lee on a rental. If he can be signed, then yes. If he’s going to go and leave no matter an offer, then no. Maybe i’m being blockheaded about it, but that is what my gut tells me.
Nothing blockheaded about that, you guys disagree with me on what you would part with for a player, that’s all. Your stance is perfectly reasonable.
Sometimes prospects turn into really good, even great players, and Mejia may very well be a great future major leaguer. He also may not. Lee already is a successful NL East, north east, post season pitcher, and I would love to have one of those.
6/2/2010-4:17pm at 4:17 pm (UTC -4)
hey, it’s not Santana’s fault he hasn’t been to the promise land with the Mets. He can’t pitch every day
in the minors and just over 40inns
As a teen.
I’m not moving him unless the Phils want to give us Doc AND
6/2/2010-4:12pm at 4:12 pm (UTC -4)
Fongy having lived, like you, through the endless litany of Mets prospects that haven’t panned out compared to the tiny handful that have, I’ll agree to disagree.
I appreciate your perspective but don’t share it.
that’s what I’m saying. It’s not like we’re talking about another hitter or mediocre starter. Lee changes everything.
for 3or4 months
6/2/2010-3:55pm at 3:55 pm (UTC -4)
offer a competitive contract
pick up draft picks if he signs elsewhere
6/2/2010-3:58pm at 3:58 pm (UTC -4)
GREAT!…And Bank on Omar and staff to draft the next Strasburg?
I think not!
6/2/2010-4:11pm at 4:11 pm (UTC -4)
same guy responsible for Pelf, Davis, Mejia, Niese, Thole, et al.
6/2/2010-4:23pm at 4:23 pm (UTC -4)
Very interesting. You are right about Mejia that he is what we see today. But he does have a very high ceiling and I’m not sure if I want to give that up just yet for a 3 months rental player. Especially that our offense still seems inconsistent to warrant a playoff spot.
Having said that, I really don’t know if Mejia is worth Lee or not. From what I’ve heard from Peter Gammons is that Mariners are looking for a catching prospect. Does that mean Mejia and Thole?
Plus, Phillies did not give up their #1 or #2 prospect to get Lee last season. This season, Lee’s contract is shorter and is coming off of injury. His market value (in terms of prospects) should not be that high.
6/2/2010-3:43pm at 3:43 pm (UTC -4)
No and eh… Can’t we just trade for Oswalt?
Cliff Lee is approaching 32, and has had TWO really good years, surrounded by injuries and mediocrity.
He is not Halladay, not Roy Harvey Oswalt, and not a superstar pitcher.
Trade for Millwood, sure.
But Mejia’s potential is still there, even if he has basically wasted 1/3 of a year now doing nothing whatsoever to really progress as a future starter, or even future closer.
Of course, we can thank Jerry for that.
6/2/2010-3:59pm at 3:59 pm (UTC -4)
With guys getting locked up early, not many guys better than Lee will be available in the future.
Of course Pedro is still available.
6/2/2010-4:00pm at 4:00 pm (UTC -4)
Oh, I agree Lee is good, and I would love to have him, but his career has two really good years spread among many not-so-great years.
I would very gladly take him but would not trade Mejia or Ike for him.
I am not sure you know this, but Figgy is also available….
I think he joined Star Wars on Ice.
6/2/2010-4:06pm at 4:06 pm (UTC -4)
No, they put him on waivers this afternoon….I think the Ice Capades claimed him….
Wrong…Dancing with the stars on ice!
Who is the star Nelson will be dancing with?
6/2/2010-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
Whoever she is, she’ll cut him and he’ll moan about her to the press.
6/2/2010-4:30pm at 4:30 pm (UTC -4)
6/2/2010-4:09pm at 4:09 pm (UTC -4)
Lee’s playoff run last yr was as good as I’ve ever seen AND
he is a very,very good Pitcher
BUT this team isn’t one very,very good pitcher away from a Lock-Playoff run…
AND as a
3or4 month rental?
I think not!
really, what other players would you like to add? the lineup scores enough. what we need is pitching.
we’re a .500 team right now. if we were playing like gangbusters then there wouldn’t be a need for a guy like Lee.
so if not now (b4 the trade deadline) when would you want the team to go get a player?
6/2/2010-4:22pm at 4:22 pm (UTC -4)
LIke I said below, “now” is really more like 6 weeks from now.
would be nice to have a better, stable SP sooner than that!
My personal feeling remains that we are building a serious beast of a team for the next few years, and I just do not want to mortgage that for an illusory playoff run this year.
I think we need a new manager, new second baseman, new right fielder (maybe Pagan if Beltran decides to play), a new bench and 2 new starters.
I would very gladly take Lee as even a rental if we can get him without trading any of the Junior Core, Wright, Reyes, Johan, KRod, etc.
But I think we are not ready for the postseason yet, and would not trade Mejia for Lee.
If the Astros would trade us Roy Harvey, I WOULD trade Mejia OR Ike.
Roy is one year older than Lee and his career pretty much blows Lee’s away.
6/2/2010-4:32pm at 4:32 pm (UTC -4)
can’t wait for the perfect season king. it’ll never happen
this year is as good as any
6/2/2010-4:13pm at 4:13 pm (UTC -4)
couldn’t resist going back to FWICG discussion for a moment.
mojoaf4 June 2, 2010 at 11:07 am
Matt is the typo king of blogging.
Log in to Reply
Actually, I disagree.
Very few are typos.
King FWICG is a terrible speller and a bad writer with poor grammar.
6/2/2010-4:20pm at 4:20 pm (UTC -4)
I believe this was in response to him listing Parnell as 35 rather than 25.
That my float friend is a typo.
But, you are correct about the other aspects of using the English language.
6/2/2010-4:24pm at 4:24 pm (UTC -4)
OK, sorry my esteemed Float pal….on this one, you are clearly correct….I hope….
Hey you leave his poor grandma out of this.
Oh, never mind.
who’s grandma’s poor?
6/2/2010-4:25pm at 4:25 pm (UTC -4)
Did you read Ted Berg’s post yesterday in defense of MC and his SNY sponsored blog? Very long and very deep….
6/2/2010-4:47pm at 4:47 pm (UTC -4)
IMO Ted is a very intelligent young man. I so wish he had a certain popular Mets related blog under his control as opposed to the fella that actually does. That was an interesting read, thanks for the heads up.
6/2/2010-4:19pm at 4:19 pm (UTC -4)
I am not willing to empty the farm (now that there are finally somepieces there to hoard) for 2 months of lee.
ANd yes, I know it is early June, but I highly doubt Seattle is going to punt and trade him now, and most likely they play it until close to the deadline.
I would much rather try and get Millwood ASAP, when they actually need someone, for (I assume) considerably less talent.
Gives them just about as good a chance of winning this year (assuming you have Millwood for a month or more longer), with less likely impact to the future (as in later this year and next year).
Lee will generate a couple of picks, but I imagine that Millwood wil lbe at least a type B. So instead of a 2nd round + comp pick they will just get the comp pick.
Yes, I am guessing that the Yankees or Sox sign Lee! Or at least some team that will have a protected 1st pick!
6/2/2010-4:36pm at 4:36 pm (UTC -4)
don’t think there will be any emptying for a rental. though it might take at least one top prospect like Mejia or F-Mart, depending on the competition. gotta figure niese and davis are safe.
6/2/2010-4:37pm at 4:37 pm (UTC -4)
I tuned into the MF drive by when I saw you all earlier discussing something with MC and Francessa – thought I was missing something on the air about this.
Left it on but was muted for a couple of hours. Turned the sound back on only to hear Steve Phillips rambling. Not sure who they’re discussing but it’s the ‘highest rated prospect ever’.
Ah…never mind – It’s Bryce Harper. MF goes on to say the Mets better do something with the Nats drafting all these super stars….
And I can honestly say as much as I do not like listening to MF – I’d listen to marathon of his rather than ever have to listen to Phillips on a regular basis.
6/2/2010-5:21pm at 5:21 pm (UTC -4)
I’m late to the party here. Didn’t think I could respect Cerrone any less, then I read his post urging his callers to say they were proud of Pelfrey and re-stoke the fire of last week’s pissing match. Now, even if it’s just MC being shrewd and just trying to get his name out there and his blog’s name out there, he really comes off as a whining loser. He should feel fortunate for everything that’s come his way, as he’s got quite a nice gig with an extremely minimal amount of talent. It’s a shame, his blog used to be quite enjoyable back in the day (before he started acting like the Gestapo with all his bans of posts and whatnot). I still go there to see if there’s any news, but if I want actual thought-out insight, I come here. Long live Real Dirty!
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