97.1 The Ticket has the audio of Jim Joyce discussing his blown call last night on the final out of the perfect game. I give Joyce credit the man owned up and realized the gravity of his error. Umpires could learn something from this man.
Jun 03
Audio: Listen to Jim Joyce Discuss His Blown Call Costing Galarraga A Perfect Game
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28 comments
fongy2
6/3/2010-2:30pm at 2:30 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed!
What I don’t and didn’t understand
was that watching on TV, he looked out with the naked eye with a not-so-great camera angle.
I thought immediately that given the situation,Tigers w/3-0 lead against
the pitiful Indians AND the kid about to have thrown a perfect game
THAT even if it was a little closer,
an Ump has GOT TO give the benefit to the Pitcher there.
I mean its not a late Sept,playoff or series game,Cleveland’s not coming back there,again they’re awful,…SO how in that spot as an ump CAN’T you already have your arm halfway up ready to call him out there?
But again, I agree at least he manned-up AND did so immediately…
Which is also important.
You’d never have gotten that from a Joe West or Bob Davidson…..
GravediggerHebner
6/3/2010-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
Just passing through quickly to see if Castillo was on the DL yet, I guess not so I’ll say about the perfect game thing that the Tigers and Joyce, after initially being pretty and fairly hot about it, have all handled themselves with a ton of dignity and class.
Today the Tigers presented Galarraga with a new top-of-the-line Corvette on the field. And Joyce is today’s home plate umpire so the team had Galarraga bring out the lineup card and present it to him, and they kind of patted each other on the shoulder as Joyce wiped tears from his eyes. Kudos to all involved!
njstuckintx
6/3/2010-3:03pm at 3:03 pm (UTC -4)
My question to you. Does MLB change the calling? I say they should. They did it in the past for the George Brett Homer (sort of) so it isn’t unprecidented.
Mr North Jersey
6/3/2010-3:07pm at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)
Not you also tx?
It was a judgement call and it was wrong you can’t start reversing judgement calls in baseball.
How many games have ended differently because a called strike 3 wasnt or was called when it clearly was the wrong call?
It is a bad call one the worst in MLB History but that doesnt mean you reverse it.
njstuckintx
6/3/2010-3:55pm at 3:55 pm (UTC -4)
I hear you. It definitely opens a door a bit wider, but it is not like that door hasn’t been opened before. If they bring up the spirit of the game thing that they did with Brett, they can do it here. For this case, it has no bearing on the game, so I bet they do. Does it start a spiral for balls/strikes/neighborhood plays at 2B/stolen bases/etc. etc.? Possibly so.
If they fix this, all is right, a good umpire will not be labeled for the rest of his career (cause he ain’t living that one down) and life will go on (hopefully).
saltygary
6/3/2010-4:04pm at 4:04 pm (UTC -4)
Brett is different because it was based on a rule interpretation.
njstuckintx
6/3/2010-4:06pm at 4:06 pm (UTC -4)
interpretation, like a judgement call?
saltygary
6/3/2010-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
2 different things…
stickguy
6/3/2010-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
it actually would be unprecedented. That was an entirely different situation.
This was a normal judgement call. The pine tar game was a rules infraction (illegal equipment) where they misapplied the rule at first (I think that was how it worled out).
you can’t go back and after the fact review every close play, and start changing outcomes. What a freaking mess that would be.
njstuckintx
6/3/2010-4:02pm at 4:02 pm (UTC -4)
But if the judgement call is so bad, how is that not addressed? I understand you want to keep reviewing everything and second guessing everything from happening, but for this instance I think it’ll get changed. Perfect games don’t happen often (except this year, apparently) and that is a record book thing. I certainly wouldn’t have handled it as diplomatically as Armando did.
Kingman 26
6/3/2010-3:15pm at 3:15 pm (UTC -4)
+ Infinity Grave–I agree!
stickguy
6/3/2010-3:42pm at 3:42 pm (UTC -4)
OH, I wouldn’t bother looking for transaction stuff today. That should be the big action for tomorrow.
My guess is, today they get guys (castillo, maybe valdes) checked by the docs, and meet as a group to fugure out which moves to screw up (err, make) and then make them tomorrow. And since Buffalo already played today, it could be an afternoon surprise to see who shows up in NY.
ceetar
6/3/2010-4:13pm at 4:13 pm (UTC -4)
They’ve gotta get the batboy and the clubhouse guys and the wilpons and the new manager and everyone together to have their daily discussion about whether to keep Mejia here or to release GMJ. takes some time.
saltygary
6/3/2010-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed nothing but class from all sides dealing with a horrible situation.
Galarraga handled his post game interview so well. Deflected the obvious even though the reporter kept baiting him. Just thanked his teammates and said it was the best game he ever pitched.
And when is the last time an umpire ever showed accountability after a bad call.
stickguy
6/3/2010-3:40pm at 3:40 pm (UTC -4)
actually heard some discussion on the MF show toay (damned, that was like the 3rd day in a row I was in the car, and put it on). Even fatso was adament that you can’t “open that pandora’s box”.
But a caller and he made a good point. Now that he will be recognized as “really” having pitched the PC, it is just as good as if he did. And in some ways, even better, since now people will remember him, because of that call!
Long after they forget the name of that dude on the A’s (which I apparently have already done), people will remember this one. As Mikey even made a funny, saying 10 years from now, Galaragga and Joyce will be sitting together at a card show, signing pictures.
saltygary
6/3/2010-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
Still wont be as good as my dual signed mookie/buckner picture sitting behind my back
saltygary
6/3/2010-3:55pm at 3:55 pm (UTC -4)
Can’t change the call but you can change the call making. Would love to see the coaches get one challenge flag (like the NFL) and in a call that can the end the game, do a booth review. That kind of formula should take away the bad calls but not slow down the game. The game moves so much faster than in the past and it is unfair to expect the umps to get all the calls right (not counting last night).
stickguy
6/3/2010-4:53pm at 4:53 pm (UTC -4)
umpires are part of the charm of baseball. It would really suck having it become automated and reviewed in teh obbth. That, and a yankee-redsox game would take 12 hours to complete.
saltygary
6/3/2010-5:12pm at 5:12 pm (UTC -4)
Having a review on a close call that would decide the game would rarely be needed. Its just about making sure you get the last call right and 99% of games are not in this situation.
So having 2 possible challenges and a final review would only add a coupole minutes and keep the the umpires in play.
stickguy
6/3/2010-5:50pm at 5:50 pm (UTC -4)
I would never support booth review, or deciding to change how the last inning is officiated.
But, the idea of having a “challenge flag”, since they already have limited video review (for HRs), is actually kind of interesting, and wouldn’t really impact or slow down the game I don’t think. ANd just like in the NFL, it would only be certain things reviewable, and would have to be irrefutable proof.
prismo
6/3/2010-6:56pm at 6:56 pm (UTC -4)
I posted a similar thought on twitter earlier. I’d like to see each manager get ONE challenge per game. Only to be used on home run calls (if the umps decide not to review it, but the manager still wants it reviewed) and safe-out plays. It wouldn’t make the game any longer, but would make it much fairer.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/3/2010-4:58pm at 4:58 pm (UTC -4)
Feel bad for Joyce now… damn.. Hope his umpiring doesn’t change because of this incident.
njstuckintx
6/3/2010-8:02pm at 8:02 pm (UTC -4)
If it changes so he makes the correct play, i do!
saltygary
6/3/2010-5:13pm at 5:13 pm (UTC -4)
Hearing on the radio that Joyce was the home plate umpire and Galarraga was the one to bring the lineup card out to him and there were pats on the back and teary eyes. If only all issues were handled with this much class.
saltygary
6/3/2010-5:16pm at 5:16 pm (UTC -4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAfSYAvQII8
Kingman 26
6/3/2010-5:54pm at 5:54 pm (UTC -4)
Thank you so much for posting this.
In today’s sports world of revolting greed and me-first attitudes, this was beautiful.
Thanks again.
stickguy
6/3/2010-5:48pm at 5:48 pm (UTC -4)
Funny that this play is getting so many people (apparently politicians too, not like they have anything ebtter to do) all worked up, to the extent that they want to embrace sweeping changes to the fabric and nature of the game (and once the genie is out, damned hard to put it back in the bottle).
The funny part is, it really didn’t matter in that it had no impact on a win, so while it would have been nice for the pitcher to have an “official” perfect game (as opposed to being recognized as having one now), it is really a BFD.
I am sure you can find other plays like this on a semi-regular basis, but people don’t go nuts trying to change how games are officiated.
metsfan4decades
6/3/2010-10:02pm at 10:02 pm (UTC -4)
In a space of about 2 weeks we see the extremes in sportsmanship and arrogance.
You have umpire Joe West being fined right along with Ozzie G. for that chuckle of a scene the other night with West tossing Ozzie and his pitcher after calling those balks. West’s attitude was so obviously arrogant, MLB fined him along with Ozzie for the incident.
Last night, you have a pitcher being denied his rightful place in the history books for something only a couple of dozen pitchers have ever done and handling it with a level of class and good will I’m not sure many of us could.
You have the ump Jim Joyce issuing a statement minutes after the end of the game and reviewing the tape taking full responsibility for that blown call with not a hint of ‘I’m the ump, I get to make the calls, deal with it’ arrogance.
I love baseball……