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6/4/2010-10:34am at 10:34 am (UTC -4)
Printed word: GravediggerHebner says that Ken Rosenthal is not a true public speaker.
6/4/2010-10:58am at 10:58 am (UTC -4)
6/4/2010-10:38am at 10:38 am (UTC -4)
Unfortunately Ken is right … But it is not to late to chane that
6/4/2010-10:39am at 10:39 am (UTC -4)
If I understood that wooden diatribe correctly, he submits that the Braves and Phillies “appear to be” the best teams in the NL East because so many people thought that they would be in spring training.
6/4/2010-10:41am at 10:41 am (UTC -4)
pretty weak analysis. But since “contender” means they have a chance, and not “they are the best, most dominant team”, then yes, they are a contender. ANd if not, there are only about 3 dontenders in teh NL!
I like how he annoints the Braves based on a good 10 day stretch. No guarantee that keeps up. Except to Kenny.
He also says the mets have so far overacheived. Really? If anything, based on talent (on paper), they have underacheived!
6/4/2010-11:07am at 11:07 am (UTC -4)
They’ve overachieveD? hahahah..
6/4/2010-1:02pm at 1:02 pm (UTC -4)
Why has overachieved such a ridiculous analysis? On paper they have 2 starting pitchers that have never even started 10 games in a season and 1 journeyman who’s career best era is 4.62, yet they are .500, so I could understand why someone could say the mets have overachieved.
6/4/2010-1:08pm at 1:08 pm (UTC -4)
Because most of the offense ranked near the bottom of the league for 1/4 of the season when based on the players they have should not be happening.
6/4/2010-10:43am at 10:43 am (UTC -4)
Juan Samuel is the interim manager for the o’s . This should be interesting
6/4/2010-10:52am at 10:52 am (UTC -4)
Especially since they are playing the Red Sox this weekend followed by the Yankees next week.
6/4/2010-11:35am at 11:35 am (UTC -4)
My Grandfather is rolling over in his grave on this one. He hated Samuel almost as much as Coleman.
6/4/2010-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
OK speaking of O’s. They have some parts to trade and are looking for a SS. How much do we value Tejada? Does he have a role in the future for us as more than a utility defender? If not would you consider trading him for Millwood?
6/4/2010-12:16pm at 12:16 pm (UTC -4)
definitely would trade him for Millwood.
6/4/2010-12:19pm at 12:19 pm (UTC -4)
I am terrible at figuring out values (and tend to get attached to prospects), FWIW.
So, I wil lstay away from is it “fair” value.
But, I would love to see millwood come in for this season.
And I would not be broken hearted to see tejada moved in the right deal. If his future is a younger Alex Cora (aka a glorified A Hern), then he is not particularly valuable.
I also don’t think he is the LT answer at 2B, since thy likely want to end up with a bigger bat there (and havens has to be the front runner out of the minors, just a little behind Tejada, but closing fast).
So, the other future for him is at SS, his natuaral position. But again, the mets would be behind the trned of bigger bats at SS. And whether he will be needed really depends on if Reyes is here beyond 2011 (no sure bet to me).
But, even if Reyes walks after next year, they should be able to find another SS option to do what Tejada will likely be able to do.
6/4/2010-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
From what I’ve seen I don’t understand how anyone could consider Tejada as a viable future major league starter
6/4/2010-1:11pm at 1:11 pm (UTC -4)
I like the trade. I heard JP Ricciardi talking on one of the radio shows and he said he would expect about a C+ or B- prospect for Millwood since the Mets are going to take on his contract. I think Tejada definitely fits as the B- or C+ prospect.
6/4/2010-1:19pm at 1:19 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah I would not think it would take much more. Maybe a single or double a nobody or even Evans.
6/4/2010-1:37pm at 1:37 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed. Millwood is not Oswalt/Lee, but he’s a consistent vet that can be reliable.
Millwood is also coming from AL East to NL. I’m not sure how much of improvement he’ll have, but I’m sure his numbers will improve as well.
6/4/2010-1:43pm at 1:43 pm (UTC -4)
If only there was a free agent pitcher named Harvey…
As for Millwood and his numbers coming to the NL East from the AL East, I’m not sure they would improve tremendously. Hopefully some, at least.
6/4/2010-1:53pm at 1:53 pm (UTC -4)
But he’ll be reliable I think.
Johan, Pelf, Niese, Westbrook, Taka/Dickey is much better than what the Phillies have.
Ideally I would like to see the Mets go after Lee/Oswalt. But they might not be available until the very last minute and I think it might be too late for the Met.
6/4/2010-1:39pm at 1:39 pm (UTC -4)
Another good vet guy to look at is Westbrook. He did have injury season last season, but he has been pretty steady before that.
Westbrook is same age as Oswalt.
What about Carmona?
I think he might cost a little more than Millwood for some reason.
6/4/2010-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t see why. Westbrook makes $1M less than Millwood and has missed all of last season with the injury. Both are in their contract years.
From what I’ve heard Indians are not doing very well financially given this economy and their team’s record. So I think salary relief is a big plus here.
Also, there are going to be alot of SPs available for the Mets to get. Hence lowers Westbrook’s value in the trade market.
Perhaps so. I have just seen conflicting reports saying that he would cost more. Maybe age or arbitration.
6/4/2010-2:00pm at 2:00 pm (UTC -4)
I guess if he costs more than what we want to trade, Millwood isn’t too shabby either.
6/4/2010-2:06pm at 2:06 pm (UTC -4)
take whichever one comes the cheapest, and the quickest?
6/4/2010-12:35pm at 12:35 pm (UTC -4)
To be fair we have a rotation featuring RA Dickey, Takahashi, and ?….I could see why someone could sa they weren’t contenders. Still, .500 ball with this team is incredibly impressive, and if they can keep this up and maybe get hot 1 more time before acquiring another player, and/or the return of Bel-tron then they definitely become contenders.
6/4/2010-12:50pm at 12:50 pm (UTC -4)
The truth sometimes hurts
6/4/2010-1:40pm at 1:40 pm (UTC -4)
blah, just look at the standings. 3.5 games out seems like they’re “contending”.
Still, do Omar and the Wilpons think the Mets are contenders?
If they don’t then don’t expect any mid-season trades like last year.
However, if they do think the Mets are legitimate contenders than will they bring in a decent player or a very good player?
Omar’s never brought in a very good player during the mid-season so I won’t keep my hopes up.
I think our best chance is to hope the Phils keep getting injured so we can battle the Marlins and Braves for the NL East and hope a rotation of Santana-Big Pelf-Niese can get it done. Hey, maybe Ollie will have his head screwed on by then. I don’t have any hopes for Maine (he’s dead to me).
6/4/2010-1:45pm at 1:45 pm (UTC -4)
Well I would not say any good players. For sure bringing in Elduque was a catch. I guess that would be similar to Millwood and he brought in Colon (ducks).
6/4/2010-2:07pm at 2:07 pm (UTC -4)
don’t forget the big splash of bring in slappy.
6/4/2010-2:12pm at 2:12 pm (UTC -4)
you’d never let that happen
6/4/2010-1:59pm at 1:59 pm (UTC -4)
My concern is that the Braves may go out and get a legit bat like Fielder or Berkman. If the Braves get someone like that, they are serious threat to win the NL East. Their pitching is very good along with their 7-8-9th inning guys.
6/4/2010-2:01pm at 2:01 pm (UTC -4)
Well they don’t have room for Berkman as Glaus is actually hitting. Fielder I don’t see anyway in hell.
6/4/2010-2:09pm at 2:09 pm (UTC -4)
More worried about the Marlins. They pitch and hit.
6/4/2010-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
I think for Wilpons to open up their wallet and really go hard at a SP via trade, Mets need to really compete. I believe the Mets need to stay 5-10 games above .500 during the month of June to show everyone including Wilpons, NTC players (like Oswalt), and the media that they are contenders for playoffs.
With Beltran coming back later this month, if the Mets can stay 5-10 games above .500, addition of Beltran and a legit SP will definitely be a shot in the arm.
Gonna be hard to do when we’re expecting Dickey and Taka to shore up the back of the rotation and Niese to continue where he left off.
Hopefully they can.
6/4/2010-2:16pm at 2:16 pm (UTC -4)
well, why shouldn’t they shore up the 4 and 5 hole? Have you seen what most teams run out there for those spots?
Anyway, I expect that Maine is back in the relatively near future, so until he breaks again, that is another spot off the board.
Just need to bring in 1 more real guy (Millwood) and the rotation will be just as solid as any of the competition pretty much.
6/4/2010-2:19pm at 2:19 pm (UTC -4)
hopefully, but I really don’t expect Maine to do any better than Dickey or Taka. Actually I have more faith in them. At least they can pitch more than 5 innings.
6/4/2010-2:20pm at 2:20 pm (UTC -4)
If neise does OK, and they actualy got Millwood soon, that would leave dicky/maine/etc. scrapping for the 5th spot and spot starts. That I got no problem with.
6/4/2010-2:21pm at 2:21 pm (UTC -4)
Who is Maine?
6/4/2010-2:58pm at 2:58 pm (UTC -4)
A relief pitcher pretending to be a starter?
10 games over for a month is hard to do. Took the Mets best May in history to do that last year.
6/4/2010-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
My point is that this team cannot stay at around .500 to consider themselves a contender. They need to differentiate themselves from mediocre teams and be in the same class as the Cards and Phillies.
OK, it is getting pretty late. Should I assume that my hope of a bunch (any?) changes to shore up holes being made today was a pipe dream?
I’m sure all the dead pen arms revitalized themselves on the plane ride back to NY. And of course Jerry and the Keystone Koaches (my new slogan) all had epihanies and figured out how to coah/manage.
And I am sure slappy’s heel magically got better at 20,000 feet.
so Neise u tomorrow for Elmer, one of the few guys actually functional in the pen, leaving them evem more short handed?
6/4/2010-2:29pm at 2:29 pm (UTC -4)
Milwood fits the Citi Field build, goes deep in games and is a fly ball pitcher who will see a significant decrease in hr allowed when playing in this cavernous ballpark. I say bring him in, but look at Lee, Haren, and Oswalt first.
6/4/2010-2:31pm at 2:31 pm (UTC -4)
My money is on Meche.
6/4/2010-2:33pm at 2:33 pm (UTC -4)
I would absolutely love to see Haren brought in. With him Pelf, and some guy names Johan, good luck scoring runs when the Mets are home.
6/4/2010-2:50pm at 2:50 pm (UTC -4)
Meche has been hurt this year.
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