June has been good to the Mets Pitching and Hitting. Check it out.
NL Batting Stats for June
| Rk | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | BB | SO | BA â–¾ | OBP | SLG | OPS | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | ATL | 730 | 104 | 206 | 45 | 2 | 16 | 97 | 13 | 91 | 152 | .282 | .362 | .415 | .777 |
| 2 | NYM | 657 | 95 | 181 | 37 | 4 | 18 | 93 | 20 | 53 | 114 | .275 | .331 | .426 | .758 |
| 3 | FLA | 662 | 103 | 179 | 39 | 9 | 18 | 98 | 23 | 68 | 153 | .270 | .341 | .438 | .779 |
| 4 | CIN | 732 | 82 | 197 | 36 | 4 | 19 | 81 | 9 | 47 | 154 | .269 | .322 | .407 | .729 |
| 5 | SFG | 669 | 89 | 177 | 40 | 5 | 21 | 86 | 6 | 69 | 111 | .265 | .336 | .433 | .769 |
| 6 | LAD | 689 | 76 | 180 | 40 | 4 | 12 | 73 | 14 | 65 | 144 | .261 | .326 | .383 | .709 |
| 7 | STL | 639 | 83 | 166 | 34 | 1 | 24 | 81 | 12 | 56 | 120 | .260 | .323 | .429 | .752 |
| 8 | CHC | 638 | 75 | 166 | 35 | 1 | 18 | 73 | 7 | 57 | 142 | .260 | .321 | .403 | .724 |
| 9 | COL | 644 | 75 | 163 | 30 | 5 | 19 | 73 | 9 | 53 | 164 | .253 | .315 | .404 | .719 |
| 10 | ARI | 732 | 90 | 184 | 41 | 4 | 23 | 89 | 16 | 78 | 191 | .251 | .331 | .413 | .744 |
| 11 | WSN | 697 | 69 | 172 | 28 | 3 | 18 | 64 | 15 | 52 | 157 | .247 | .303 | .373 | .676 |
| 12 | PHI | 628 | 83 | 155 | 26 | 4 | 21 | 82 | 14 | 59 | 116 | .247 | .318 | .401 | .720 |
| 13 | MIL | 693 | 89 | 171 | 40 | 0 | 22 | 83 | 11 | 71 | 158 | .247 | .324 | .400 | .724 |
| 14 | HOU | 709 | 88 | 173 | 31 | 3 | 14 | 82 | 11 | 48 | 137 | .244 | .291 | .355 | .647 |
| 15 | SDP | 672 | 73 | 164 | 38 | 1 | 17 | 70 | 10 | 49 | 125 | .244 | .298 | .379 | .678 |
| 16 | PIT | 624 | 66 | 148 | 39 | 4 | 11 | 63 | 17 | 54 | 142 | .237 | .296 | .365 | .661 |
| TOT | 10815 | 1340 | 2782 | 579 | 54 | 291 | 1288 | 207 | 970 | 2280 | .257 | .322 | .401 | .723 |
NL Pitching Stats for June
| Rk | W | L | W-L% | ERA | GS | SV | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | SO | WHIP | SO/9 | SO/BB | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | NYM | 15 | 4 | .789 | 2.92 | 19 | 7 | 172.1 | 156 | 57 | 56 | 10 | 51 | 114 | 1.201 | 6.0 | 2.24 |
| 2 | SDP | 11 | 9 | .550 | 3.13 | 20 | 5 | 181.0 | 160 | 66 | 63 | 15 | 58 | 161 | 1.204 | 8.0 | 2.78 |
| 3 | SFG | 12 | 8 | .600 | 3.31 | 20 | 10 | 177.0 | 176 | 72 | 65 | 14 | 64 | 142 | 1.356 | 7.2 | 2.22 |
| 4 | COL | 11 | 9 | .550 | 3.49 | 20 | 7 | 175.1 | 173 | 72 | 68 | 11 | 60 | 133 | 1.329 | 6.8 | 2.22 |
| 5 | CHC | 7 | 12 | .368 | 3.69 | 19 | 3 | 166.0 | 161 | 85 | 68 | 17 | 66 | 134 | 1.367 | 7.3 | 2.03 |
| 6 | STL | 10 | 9 | .526 | 3.71 | 19 | 6 | 169.2 | 163 | 72 | 70 | 19 | 59 | 131 | 1.308 | 6.9 | 2.22 |
| 7 | ATL | 13 | 8 | .619 | 3.71 | 21 | 8 | 184.1 | 173 | 87 | 76 | 14 | 68 | 156 | 1.307 | 7.6 | 2.29 |
| 8 | WSN | 7 | 14 | .333 | 3.79 | 21 | 6 | 185.1 | 220 | 95 | 78 | 15 | 49 | 135 | 1.451 | 6.6 | 2.76 |
| 9 | LAD | 9 | 11 | .450 | 3.89 | 20 | 4 | 182.2 | 174 | 82 | 79 | 21 | 63 | 156 | 1.297 | 7.7 | 2.48 |
| 10 | CIN | 10 | 11 | .476 | 4.12 | 21 | 6 | 188.0 | 204 | 89 | 86 | 17 | 78 | 117 | 1.500 | 5.6 | 1.50 |
| 11 | MIL | 10 | 10 | .500 | 4.16 | 20 | 4 | 177.1 | 167 | 84 | 82 | 19 | 71 | 156 | 1.342 | 7.9 | 2.20 |
| 12 | ARI | 8 | 13 | .381 | 4.55 | 21 | 4 | 190.0 | 202 | 103 | 96 | 16 | 81 | 144 | 1.489 | 6.8 | 1.78 |
| 13 | FLA | 9 | 10 | .474 | 4.55 | 19 | 6 | 168.0 | 186 | 94 | 85 | 20 | 71 | 134 | 1.530 | 7.2 | 1.89 |
| 14 | HOU | 10 | 11 | .476 | 4.67 | 21 | 6 | 185.0 | 203 | 107 | 96 | 11 | 75 | 145 | 1.503 | 7.1 | 1.93 |
| 15 | PHI | 9 | 10 | .474 | 4.95 | 19 | 4 | 169.0 | 184 | 98 | 93 | 28 | 54 | 125 | 1.408 | 6.7 | 2.31 |
| 16 | PIT | 4 | 15 | .211 | 5.02 | 19 | 3 | 165.0 | 193 | 101 | 92 | 22 | 59 | 91 | 1.527 | 5.0 | 1.54 |
| TOT | 155 | 164 | .486 | 3.98 | 319 | 89 | 2836.0 | 2895 | 1364 | 1253 | 269 | 1027 | 2174 | 1.383 | 6.9 | 2.12 |
58 comments
CaseStreet
6/24/2010-12:53pm at 12:53 pm (UTC -4)
You know who else loves June? Jerry!
On 5-20, the team was 3 below .500, rusty said Jerry was a dead man walking, trs said the entire coaching staff has to go.
Also, crazy how TRDMB is over a year old. Where did the time go?
GravediggerHebner
6/24/2010-12:57pm at 12:57 pm (UTC -4)
So great to see the Mets pitching staff with the 2nd fewest BB allowed in the NL in June. WAS being # 1 at that would serve them better if they didn’t give up so many hits!
Each time you post updated pitching stats it’s the lack of BB allowed that stands out to me in a positive way. The staff continues to not miss Perez & Maine at all.
I’m surprised by how well the offense has done without Castillo, seems as if the lineup doesn’t miss him just as much as the pitchers don’t miss P & M, and though there are no stats related to it here on the surface it seems the defense doesn’t miss Castillo either.
Luis is slowly working his way onto my list of players the team is doing better without, of the 3 guys I mention he’s the one I thought they’d miss the most so color me pleasantly surprised. Is it a coincidence that they are the 3 guys who (to me, subjectively) smiled the least?
youngvalerawest
6/24/2010-1:08pm at 1:08 pm (UTC -4)
excellent points, Grave. The walks are a huge difference and the two absentees were the prime culprits.
the absence of Luis and the free passes has made the defense better.
speaking of absence of walks, strasburg had his third start out of 4 without giving up a free pass. unbelieveable for a power pitcher.
CaseStreet
6/24/2010-1:14pm at 1:14 pm (UTC -4)
pretty impressive that the team has done so well with $41M on the shelf. Though, I wonder if the team’s OBP would be doing better with Castillo playing. Either way, it should improve once Pagan takes over for Frenchy.
oleosmirf
6/24/2010-2:31pm at 2:31 pm (UTC -4)
OBP is the most overrated stat. OBP is very important for your 1-5 hitters but becomes exceedingly less important once you get passed the big bats.
sure clearing the pitcher is nice but if you have RISP taking a walk in front of the pitcher or a weak hitter is pretty much a waste especially with 2 outs.
ceetar
6/24/2010-2:22pm at 2:22 pm (UTC -4)
They were playing pretty well before Castillo left, it’s more about the pitchers. Tejada is on a nice 6-game hitting streak (the Mets are 4-2 over that stretch) but he’s hardly winning them games, glove or bat. I’m glad he’s starting to hit a little, because he’s better than Cora and Manuel had repeatedly stated that he didn’t think Tejada was ready and would sit him against tough righties to help his confidence. Obviously this has changed, given Verlander.
I was never a huge Castillo fan, but he’s not a bad player, even at this age. Jury’s still out on Tejada, but if he hits .270 Castillo will contribute more than him this year. When Reyes Pagan and Wright aren’t clicking like they are, the extra OBP will really help.
The “since this guy is gone” conicidences are just that. I could give you so many random ‘turning points’ for pretty much anything. It just as easily could’ve been “Castillo sits for three days and comes back and has scored 25 runs over the last 20 games” or had Manuel not pulled Maine in that start “John Maine has 6 quality starts in his last 7″ (he had 3/4 before that) and the team has won all 7.
oleosmirf
6/24/2010-2:33pm at 2:33 pm (UTC -4)
Castillo i think is a coincidence but to say this team would be just as good or better with Ollie or Maine still here is absolutely ridiculous.
ceetar
6/24/2010-2:48pm at 2:48 pm (UTC -4)
not saying they would be. But you never know what would’ve/will happen either. The team is doing well because Dickey and Takahashi pitching well, not because Maine and Perez stopped getting chances.
njstuckintx
6/24/2010-1:05pm at 1:05 pm (UTC -4)
What happened to the site? It’s all center aligned!!!
metsfan4decades
6/24/2010-1:39pm at 1:39 pm (UTC -4)
Center aligned? It’s always been center aligned, at least on my laptop….
njstuckintx
6/24/2010-2:01pm at 2:01 pm (UTC -4)
yeah, i dunno. it’s back to left aligned for me. Maybe my compy was on the fritz for a few.
metsfan4decades
6/24/2010-2:15pm at 2:15 pm (UTC -4)
LOL…weird.
youngvalerawest
6/24/2010-1:24pm at 1:24 pm (UTC -4)
Marlins fired Fredi Gonzalez while the team was playing well. I’ll assume that was because Loria got some indication that Bobby V. was considering taking the Baltimore job (from which he conveniently and coincidentally withdrew himself) because he has always wanted to hire him.
GravediggerHebner
6/24/2010-1:40pm at 1:40 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve been reading about this “coincidence” of events from lots of sources today. At this stage the most interesting thing to me is will Loria pony up the big money that Valentine rightly commands? As much as I imagine Bobby V wants back in I doubt he’ll sell himself for pennies on the dollar.
metsfan4decades
6/24/2010-1:45pm at 1:45 pm (UTC -4)
I was wondering the same thing myself. He’ll spend money on the manager and not the players? We’ve had huge debates on this blog and in the dugout on just how much a manager actually does matter in the long run….Seems odd.
stickguy
6/24/2010-2:32pm at 2:32 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t recall the timing, but they are getting a new stadium soon. Maybe Bobby V. is the first step toward aligning the team to that? HOpefully the budget can increase to at least what an average college football team spend once they open a new park.
metsfan4decades
6/24/2010-1:43pm at 1:43 pm (UTC -4)
Heard most of Omar’s interview on WFAN this morning.
Guys asked him, considering how loud all Met fans were yelling b/c over the off season he didn’t bring in a premier pitcher or two, didn’t appear to do much outside of Bay to improve the team – wanted to know with the success of Ike and Pagan and Dickey and Taka if he felt like gloating? hahaha.
They asked him if Maine and Ollie have pitched their last pitch in a Met uniform this year. Omar said no, they’re rehabbing and it’s a long season yet. He followed up with a very strong statement though saying as long as Dickey and Taka are successful, they will not come out of the rotation (I have to assume that means until he trades for a pitcher come next month….).
He talked some about Mejia and the decision to send him down now. Said they still see him as a starter and with the success of the rotation lately, the few appearences he was making and Parnell stepping it up in AAA, they felt it was a good time to flip/flop them and get Mejia’s development going down in the minors.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/24/2010-1:57pm at 1:57 pm (UTC -4)
He really didn’t answer much when Carton asked whether Mejia is “untouchable” and that he would be a trade chip to get Lee.
Mr North Jersey
6/24/2010-2:02pm at 2:02 pm (UTC -4)
I have yet to listen to it. I think it’s safe to say Minaya didn’t expect Ollie and Maine to be where they are today or that Dickey would get off to this kind of start.
I would think Dickey would of been the type of starter to give you innings and at least give a team a chance to win a game if the Mets had a starter go down.
Dickey has come in and has happily far exceeded my and I would think most everyone’s expectations.
Add to that Takahishi and how well he has pitched for the most part and you have 2 unknowns that have been positives this 2010 season…
Santana we expected to be Santana and Minaya believed that Pelfrey would rebound and he was correct. Niese has come back and has continued to impress in his development. So much so that it looks like Mets have no interest in trading him in any deals.
In the end a front end rotation of Santana, Pelfrey, Perez, Maine that was hoped to rebound in 2010.In the end turns out that half (Perez,Maine) has failed so far but their replacements (Dickey, Takahashi) have come in and have done what they couldn’t. Make us a strong rotation to beat.
oleosmirf
6/24/2010-2:42pm at 2:42 pm (UTC -4)
i expected Maine and Ollie to be exactly where they are right now, hurt/ineffective and out of the lineup…luckily Takahashi and Dickey have pitched better than Maine and Ollie have pitched in their entire Mets careers right now…
Mr North Jersey
6/24/2010-2:53pm at 2:53 pm (UTC -4)
“i expected Maine and Ollie to be exactly where they are right now, hurt/ineffective and out of the lineup…”
I am sure you was not alone with those thoughts.
oleosmirf
6/24/2010-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
idk most people expected them to be better…then again i was blasted when I said I expected Ollie to be terrible every season even before he signed the contract…
Mr North Jersey
6/24/2010-3:02pm at 3:02 pm (UTC -4)
Well I know my off season was spent fighting over the Mets not getting a front end starter. Largely because I had little faith in Ollie and Maine and didn’t think Pelf would become that 1-2 punch along with Santana that I had hoped for.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/24/2010-1:54pm at 1:54 pm (UTC -4)
Seattle times reporting and heard via Metsblog that Mets and Twins are front runners. Okay I think we all knew that. But I was surprised to hear what the Mets were willing to offer for 2/3 months rental of Lee.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/marinersblog/2012196620_mets_twins_appear_to_be_two_fr.html?syndication=rss
According the article, Mets are willing to offer Mejia and Pagan for Lee. Wow that’s quite an offer for a rental player. I can see Mejia and couple minor leaguers go, but Pagan? I understand that Beltran is coming back and all, but Pagan will be one of the best if not the best 4th OF if Beltran comes back (that is if Frenchy plays mainly in RF). Reyes and Pagan are great 1-2 in the lineup and I really don’t want to see Pagan go as part of the package.
I’d rather see Frenchy go with Mejia, but I guess he makes too much money. But if it was Mejia and Pagan, I’d think twice about doing the deal.
fongy2
6/24/2010-2:00pm at 2:00 pm (UTC -4)
I really, really like Lee BUT
Meijia and Pagan are a no-go
for me!…Lee will indeed be a 3 month rental AND the FO should know already,there it’s
not a lock Bel-Tron returns anytime soon AND when and if
he does what type of player will he be???…And for how long??…
I agree it would be nice to move Frenchy in a deal for Lee
BUT why the heck would Seattle
want him???
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/24/2010-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed. Beltran may not be able to play 5-6 games a week and probably Pagan plays 1/3 time at CF. I don’t see the point of trading Pagan when Beltran is still up in the air.
Would you do Mejia and FMart? I’m still not too sure about it either. I would be more inclined to go with Mejia/Tejada/Kirk.
fongy2
6/24/2010-2:30pm at 2:30 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t want to move Meijia…
Golden arm, and
again 20yrs old
FMart I move.
I’m not sold on him at all and
while still a kid, the more he
reminds me of
Dave DeJesus…
Nice player but
no difference maker. Plus I
think The Kirk kid is getting real close to
passing him as our top Lefty hitting corner
OF prospect.
stickguy
6/24/2010-2:34pm at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)
kirk might have already passed him, but he also has a chance to stick at CF, since he is reproted to have ML level speed and glove.
1st one to play 3 straight months with an OBP above .360 wins the job!
GravediggerHebner
6/24/2010-2:10pm at 2:10 pm (UTC -4)
I guess I’m in the minority but I think a 29 year old (next week) career 4th OF who is oft injured (see: right now) and never has played more than 88 games plus a 20 year old highly regarded prospect (let us all count the highly regarded Mets prospects that actually helped the Mets directly it shouldn’t take long) is a cheap price and I’m tripping over myself running to make this deal before Seattle wakes up.
fongy2
6/24/2010-2:17pm at 2:17 pm (UTC -4)
Part of me can understand that
BUT where exactly was Strasburg at 20?
I do agree about Pagan though….Sell
high!…But
do you trust
Bel-Tron’s return AND if
so…Return to
form???
GravediggerHebner
6/24/2010-2:22pm at 2:22 pm (UTC -4)
Ultimately no and that sucks because to get a pitcher the caliber of Lee for Pagan plus 1 upside prospect really entices me.
But yes as many of you have noted there is no simple, obvious (at least not to me) answer to the CF problem. To do this counts too heavily on Beltran being Beltran and given how everything is going so well right now even I can’t say firmly this gamble is worth making.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/24/2010-2:38pm at 2:38 pm (UTC -4)
I just don’t see how it would work timing wise. In order for us to see 100% healthy Beltran, the deal would have to take place right at the deadline and even then, it would be iffy whether Beltran will be 100%.
And I truly don’t think Feliciano can be a CF replacement until Beltran is 100% healthy. Unless they plan on promoting FMart to play at CF, but I just don’t see that.
oleosmirf
6/24/2010-2:38pm at 2:38 pm (UTC -4)
dont try to compare Mejia to Strasburg…
fongy2
6/24/2010-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
Not doing that BUT this is a 20y/o kid with a golden arm whos pitched very few innings and more than held his own in the NL for 3 months.
oleosmirf
6/24/2010-2:57pm at 2:57 pm (UTC -4)
but he was never dominant…i have no doubt that Strasburg could have gotten double digit strikeouts as an 18 year old…
stickguy
6/24/2010-3:03pm at 3:03 pm (UTC -4)
actually, when he was 18, Strass was a pudgeball that coldn’t run windsprints without puking, and had no where near the stuff he does now.
Not even sure he was drafted out of HS.
Mr North Jersey
6/24/2010-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
Stick he went to San Diego State
http://goaztecs.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/strasburg_stephen00.html
fongy2
6/24/2010-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
Strasburg was undrafted @18 coming out of high school my friend.
fongy2
6/24/2010-3:20pm at 3:20 pm (UTC -4)
BECAUSE he was undrafted coming out of High School…
njstuckintx
6/24/2010-2:11pm at 2:11 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, not the 2 of them. And honestly, you’re banking on Beltran not reinjuring himself, cause after Beltran, what backup CF is there other than Feliciano? I think someone’s been enjoying the wacky tabacky if you ask me.
GravediggerHebner
6/24/2010-2:17pm at 2:17 pm (UTC -4)
That’s the problem with it, that the Mets don’t seem to have anything they can do with CF. Which is really too bad because 2 players (1 prospect, 1 29 YO career backup OF) for Lee is really a great deal IMO. Beltran’s injury both allows the possibility for a great deal (by allowing Pagan to showcase & increase his value by a lot) but also kills it because trading Pagan leaves a black hole in CF.
njstuckintx
6/24/2010-2:29pm at 2:29 pm (UTC -4)
If they could work that combo plus a couple (tejada +) could bring back Haren, I’d work with the black hole in CF! Just Mejia and Pagan for Lee, knowing Beltran is on the mend… It’s risky. Prob worth the risk, but risky regardless. I just have this feeling with Beltran that i would not file in my “good feeling” drawer.
I do see your point on Pagan, but honestly, he’s a cheap(er) answer to letting Frenchy go and can fall into 4th OF mode if Fernando is healthy and ready to make it in the bigs. He’s been blocked or injured so far, so maybe he is worth holding onto. Again, another risk. Risk. I prefer Stratego.
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/24/2010-2:50pm at 2:50 pm (UTC -4)
I wouldn’t agree with the fact that Pagan is a backup OF. Sure so far in his career he’s been a backup OF, but he definitely has the talent and skills to be an everyday player. Look what he’s doing with the Mets right now. If Pagan were to go anywhere an OF is needed, he’ll be the starting OF and probably lead-off or bat #2.
The fact that he’s still under team’s control AND with Beltran’s health issue (who knows if Beltran will be healthy at all this season or next for that matter), Pagan has too much value in the team to trade him.
fongy2
6/24/2010-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
b/t/w, the report states “Mets MIGHT be willing” NOT “The Mets
ARE willing”….BIG DIFF!!!
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/24/2010-2:06pm at 2:06 pm (UTC -4)
okay… but point is that Mejia and Pagan is giving up too much for 3 months rental.
fongy2
6/24/2010-2:13pm at 2:13 pm (UTC -4)
I’m with ya!
stickguy
6/24/2010-2:37pm at 2:37 pm (UTC -4)
if you read the comments to that article, at least 1 poster seems to regard the author as being the west coast equivilant of Wallace Mathews.
metsfan4decades
6/24/2010-2:23pm at 2:23 pm (UTC -4)
I got the impression that’s not what the Mets would give up, but rather speculation by that Seattle writer on that’s what would maybe do it from the Mets…
I cannot imagine the Mets giving up their CF right now not knowing if Beltran will return or return 100%.
fongy2
6/24/2010-1:55pm at 1:55 pm (UTC -4)
Once again, this game ain’t that complicated!…Throw strikes,don’t give up extra outs to the opposition,
get hits with guys in scoring position,make productive outs and
don’t hit into double plays….
And no disrespect meant at all BUT
Heb’s above comments about Luis Aches&Pains made me LOL!
Sorry, BUT this guy just isn’t the player he was five yrs ago AND because
of that he simply doesn’t do enough positive things to really”help” a
winning team….And as I’ve argued
because of the type of hits he gets
he actually often prevents us from
having the guys i/f/o him advance
more than a station at a time on
the basepaths….As witnessed, he’s not missed!
GravediggerHebner
6/24/2010-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
Understood and no disrespect taken, but bear in mind I was comparing him to Oliver Perez and John Maine.
fongy2
6/24/2010-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, I wanted to make that clear because I can be a little crazy when it comes to Luis!
He has become one of
my top 5 or so Alltime
most hated Mets….
Funny, b/c I liked him
as a Marlin……
Especially in the Series against Da Bronx
‘Roid Boys!
stickguy
6/24/2010-2:38pm at 2:38 pm (UTC -4)
I am glad to see that I am not the only one that would not mind if Luis never came back.
Not that is sounds like he is anywhere close to playing. We all know that bone bruises take a long time to heal, and it must be real hard to keep off your foot.
ceetar
6/24/2010-2:40pm at 2:40 pm (UTC -4)
btw Grave, did you just create a twitter account?
stickguy
6/24/2010-2:10pm at 2:10 pm (UTC -4)
mejia and pagan ain’t happening. SEattle times is probably the Mariners mouthpiece. Maybe that is what the M’s want. I would be shocked, and really pissed if that deal went down.
interestingly, one of the articles on sypder was about Nick Evans, and how he would be a valuable trade chip (one of the likely ones to go) based on how he is hitting, but being blocked by Ike.
I do believe that fans of any team (not just Met fans) mis-value prospects. Some guys become untouchable favorites (while not being that interesting to other teams), and other guys that fans decide to hate (or are crap, shold be cut, etc.) actually have value to other teams. ANd Nick could easily fall into that 2nd catagory.
The other guy that was getting some props was Campbell, but the dope broke his pinkie and will be out for 3-6 weeks, exactly the wrong time for the Mets.
Now, to us, maybe Campbell and Evans are just misc. fodder to be piked into the shopping cart, but based on current level and production, they are likely valuable trade chips (maybe the infamous “B” prospects?).
But, they are probably already at the level to be worth more than an unknown supplemental or 2nd round pick (2nd round I assume, after the Yankees sign Lee!)
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/24/2010-2:25pm at 2:25 pm (UTC -4)
I would think Mejia is definitely involved in the deal. It’s a matter of who the other pieces are. To me, Pagan is just as valuable if not more than Mejia at this point. So, I just don’t/can’t see it go thru.
I think Evans would fall more likely C+ prospect and I think M’s would be looking for slightly better talent. But Mejia and Evans would be just find with me.
stickguy
6/24/2010-2:41pm at 2:41 pm (UTC -4)
evans is probably better than that. Excellent numbers this year, and a good glove at 1B. ANd not too old.
He also has shown that he can hit in the majors.
That right there puts him way above the vast majority of prospects (once you get past the relatively small “stud” layer).
oleosmirf
6/24/2010-2:34pm at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)
if the Mariners want Nick the Stick they can have him…too bad Murphy is injured he’d be perfect to ship out there…
DNDJohan aka kistics
6/24/2010-2:40pm at 2:40 pm (UTC -4)
agreed on Murphy. He’d be perfect for the Yankees too in return we’d ask for Hughes