I am starting to get more and more worried that the big trade deadline P acquisition is going to be Ollie (I think Maine wil lnever be back).
but, if they manage to surprise many of us and trade for 1-2 real good RPs, that might be enough to get by.
If Omar is looking to roll the dice 1 last time on the Ollie pass line, he better hedge his bets by getting at least a mid-level SP for depth (Lilly still my fave, but Guthrie maybe? Long shot Mercum, depending on the cost for an injury recovery guy).
Ollie will just replace Taka. Not that big of a loss really, since Taka seems to have settled into an up/down mode, and lucky to make it through 5. So, not much different than your basic Ollie!
and at least it will be a boost to the pen, having taka back in.
Now, if 2 guys come in, either ollie or Dickey have to go to the pen. And if he rebounds from his PR start with a strong effort vs. the Braves, I don’t think it should be him!
gonna get interesting, but IMO, Omar needs to double up, and worry about having too many guys if it happens.
If nothing else, it will let them have a very, very short leash with Ollie!
If the Mets don’t end up getting Cliff Lee then I at least hope Lee stays in the A.L. and not to say the Phillies or another NL team that may impact the Mets chances at making the post season.
The 2nd half is fast approaching and soon we will know what this team is made of.
I am looking forward to a great race to the finish line.
the rest of this week will be interesting. quite a bit of a difference between storming into the ASB tied for first or in sole possesion, vs. staggering in 5 back. And with the Braves in, either is possible.
but man, the Braves are way under .500 on the road. So while a sweep would be awesome, 2-3 would be just fine.
best case, mets and phils win tonight, then mets take at least 2-3, and the Reds destroy the Phils!
I honestly think Omar believes or is trying to make us believe that Ollie is the answer. I hope im wrong but I dont see any above average SP coming here.
Here is a crazy thought. With Lee possibly scheduled to make his last start before the A.S.B. this Friday vs the Yankees at Safeco Field. If the Mets were to pull of a trade for him right after that start and before the 2nd half begins his next scheduled start would be on July 15th.
You can have a 4 game series that looks as follows.
probably. I think Perez is going to get the 15th/Lincecum start. Santana on the 16th, and Pelfrey, with an extra two days (to sorta give him a breather) the 17th.
no, the logical choice is Pelfrey the 15th, Santana the 16th. (regular rest)
If you want to get Pelfrey extra rest, you can push him back, but you still do Santana on the 16th. If you want to flip flop Niese and Pelfrey, you can do that too, but Niese shouldn’t be moved up due to the whole limited workload for rookies thing. So you could do Dickey if you wanted, or Takahashi…or Perez, on normal rest.
oleosmirf
7/7/2010-7:07pm at 7:07 pm (UTC -4)
i would give Pelf the extra rest…whether Niese pitches the 15th or 17th the amount of innings he throws will be pretty much the same.
“SPEED BUMP: Oliver Perez, who registered 91-92 mph on some pitches in his first rehab start with Class A St. Lucie, saw his fastball velocity down to the mid- to upper-80s in Tuesday’s second start with the Florida State League club. Perez nonetheless will move from St. Lucie to Triple-A Buffalo for his next rehab appearance”.
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stickguy
7/7/2010-5:09pm at 5:09 pm (UTC -4)
I am starting to get more and more worried that the big trade deadline P acquisition is going to be Ollie (I think Maine wil lnever be back).
but, if they manage to surprise many of us and trade for 1-2 real good RPs, that might be enough to get by.
If Omar is looking to roll the dice 1 last time on the Ollie pass line, he better hedge his bets by getting at least a mid-level SP for depth (Lilly still my fave, but Guthrie maybe? Long shot Mercum, depending on the cost for an injury recovery guy).
Ollie will just replace Taka. Not that big of a loss really, since Taka seems to have settled into an up/down mode, and lucky to make it through 5. So, not much different than your basic Ollie!
and at least it will be a boost to the pen, having taka back in.
Now, if 2 guys come in, either ollie or Dickey have to go to the pen. And if he rebounds from his PR start with a strong effort vs. the Braves, I don’t think it should be him!
gonna get interesting, but IMO, Omar needs to double up, and worry about having too many guys if it happens.
If nothing else, it will let them have a very, very short leash with Ollie!
Mr North Jersey
7/7/2010-5:14pm at 5:14 pm (UTC -4)
If the Mets don’t end up getting Cliff Lee then I at least hope Lee stays in the A.L. and not to say the Phillies or another NL team that may impact the Mets chances at making the post season.
The 2nd half is fast approaching and soon we will know what this team is made of.
I am looking forward to a great race to the finish line.
stickguy
7/7/2010-5:17pm at 5:17 pm (UTC -4)
the rest of this week will be interesting. quite a bit of a difference between storming into the ASB tied for first or in sole possesion, vs. staggering in 5 back. And with the Braves in, either is possible.
but man, the Braves are way under .500 on the road. So while a sweep would be awesome, 2-3 would be just fine.
best case, mets and phils win tonight, then mets take at least 2-3, and the Reds destroy the Phils!
CaseStreet
7/7/2010-5:18pm at 5:18 pm (UTC -4)
with the reported Twins offer, I expect Omar to get a SP (Ollie) and RP (Maine). Though, I think they’ll be decent for the rest of the season.
oleosmirf
7/7/2010-6:11pm at 6:11 pm (UTC -4)
with Omar, that might actually happen
oleosmirf
7/7/2010-5:43pm at 5:43 pm (UTC -4)
im very scared as well.
I honestly think Omar believes or is trying to make us believe that Ollie is the answer. I hope im wrong but I dont see any above average SP coming here.
stickguy
7/7/2010-5:55pm at 5:55 pm (UTC -4)
Lilly is an above average SP. I would be happy to get him.
oleosmirf
7/7/2010-6:16pm at 6:16 pm (UTC -4)
so would I but will Omar trade for him especially since ollie is healthy and is forced to come up soon
Mr North Jersey
7/7/2010-5:48pm at 5:48 pm (UTC -4)
Here is a crazy thought. With Lee possibly scheduled to make his last start before the A.S.B. this Friday vs the Yankees at Safeco Field. If the Mets were to pull of a trade for him right after that start and before the 2nd half begins his next scheduled start would be on July 15th.
You can have a 4 game series that looks as follows.
7/15
Cliff Lee vs Tim Lincecum
7/16
Mike Pelfrey vs Barry Zito
7/17
Johan Santana vs Matt Cain
7/18
Jonathon Niese vs Jonathan Sanchez
CRAZY right???
ceetar
7/7/2010-6:29pm at 6:29 pm (UTC -4)
probably. I think Perez is going to get the 15th/Lincecum start. Santana on the 16th, and Pelfrey, with an extra two days (to sorta give him a breather) the 17th.
oleosmirf
7/7/2010-6:33pm at 6:33 pm (UTC -4)
Niese would pitch the 15th, they arent pushing people back to get Ollie in there thats for sure.
ceetar
7/7/2010-7:05pm at 7:05 pm (UTC -4)
no, the logical choice is Pelfrey the 15th, Santana the 16th. (regular rest)
If you want to get Pelfrey extra rest, you can push him back, but you still do Santana on the 16th. If you want to flip flop Niese and Pelfrey, you can do that too, but Niese shouldn’t be moved up due to the whole limited workload for rookies thing. So you could do Dickey if you wanted, or Takahashi…or Perez, on normal rest.
oleosmirf
7/7/2010-7:07pm at 7:07 pm (UTC -4)
i would give Pelf the extra rest…whether Niese pitches the 15th or 17th the amount of innings he throws will be pretty much the same.
stickguy
7/7/2010-7:41pm at 7:41 pm (UTC -4)
“So you could do Dickey if you wanted”
pervert.
fongy2
7/7/2010-6:30pm at 6:30 pm (UTC -4)
INSANE!!!….To quote “Crazy
Eddie”……..
oleosmirf
7/7/2010-7:08pm at 7:08 pm (UTC -4)
btw according to Adam Rubin:
“SPEED BUMP: Oliver Perez, who registered 91-92 mph on some pitches in his first rehab start with Class A St. Lucie, saw his fastball velocity down to the mid- to upper-80s in Tuesday’s second start with the Florida State League club. Perez nonetheless will move from St. Lucie to Triple-A Buffalo for his next rehab appearance”.
Mr North Jersey
7/7/2010-7:12pm at 7:12 pm (UTC -4)
Probably used the slow gun.
stickguy
7/7/2010-7:44pm at 7:44 pm (UTC -4)
makes sense to move him up to face more ML ready competition, to see what he can actually do.
and if the answer is not much, just leave him there!