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7/29/2010-10:37pm at 10:37 pm (UTC -4)
Either offense needs to start scoring or the BP needs to stop giving up runs in extra innings. How many games have the Mets lost in extra innings or walk-off fashion? I bet you the Mets are #1 in the majors.
Interesting fact on the Mets this season. The Mets are 11-21 in 1-run games. 4-8 in extra inning games. What does this mean? I think it means the team is either (1) offense is pressing or (2) pitching cannot hold their end in close games or (3) combination of both.
Look at the Padres with the best record in NL
1-run game: 19-12
extra innings: 7-5
1-run game :10-6
extra innings: 4-2
I honestly don’t know what this means. But I know this for certain, 11-21 in 1-run game should be on the Mets coaching staff’s radar.
7/29/2010-10:45pm at 10:45 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks for this. This is not the sign of a team going anywhere.
I put it on the offense, which goes to sleep for inexorably torturous periods.
7/29/2010-10:50pm at 10:50 pm (UTC -4)
7/29/2010-11:59pm at 11:59 pm (UTC -4)
Shhhh…. stop with this kind of logic.
7/29/2010-11:55pm at 11:55 pm (UTC -4)
It’s all Jerry’s fault. Hey, aren’t close and extra innings where the manager is supposed to make a difference?
I blame Jerry!
7/29/2010-11:57pm at 11:57 pm (UTC -4)
Thats fine BUT after
he’s used Feliciano and KRod to get us to
extra inns, whats been
7/30/2010-8:30am at 8:30 am (UTC -4)
Here’s a thought: don’t use Oliver Perez before your best reliever, in any ballpark.
Or, don’t use a billion relievers in short appearances, so that you’re forced to go too long with Pedro against righties.
Despite having a migraine and wanting to go home, i almost hoped the Mets had tied it the other night. It would’ve made LaRussa look really bad. Ryan would have had to come out, because he was due up, and we would’ve been facing infielders again.
7/29/2010-11:32pm at 11:32 pm (UTC -4)
Problem is as its been since ST,
The Bullpen!…I said to you guys in
March that even if things went well
with the SPing, there wasn’t enough
quality depth in the Pen.
We were told by the FO that Escobar
and Ryoto would likely be our top 8th
inning guys. This was dubious at best
and I for one never believed that.
Omar spent the first half marveling
at his own luck with guys like Barajas,Dickey&Takahashi while waiting
on Bay to earn his money and Beltran,Ollie and Maine to return.
This team is 13-22 over the past six
weeks. A span covering just over 20%
of the season. Hate to break it to y’all BUT we already made over run!
Doubtful The Braves will totally collapse and The Phillies are on the move toward a third straight World Series, so there wouldn’t appear to
be an open playoff spot for us to slide into. It would take 90+ wins to
get the WC anyway. We gonna finish atleast 38-22???…C’mon! Lets get real!…If anything, Omar should be seeing what he can get for Pedro Feliciano given what some of these RP
are returning AND what some of the clubs like Toronto are asking for their’s.
7/29/2010-11:35pm at 11:35 pm (UTC -4)
I thought the pen has pitched good for the most part.
They have…For the most part.BUT thats thanks to Takahashi early and Parnell of late.KRod has blown some HUGE games and Feliciano hasn’t been
nearly as good as he has the past 4 yrs.
Both b/c inconsistant and too much work!
HOW MUCH would one or two more quality arms
like Gregg and Dotel
have helped during the past four months???
Not enough quality arms and as a result
we end up having to pitch Ollie in big spots or have KRod or
Feliciano come in b/f they should and/or stay in too long.
As far as the offense is concerned, to me…
It’s all on JBay!…
Look at the production/
numbers we rec’d from everyone and really who
hasn’t been atleast close to what we could have expected???…
If JBay has another
10HRS&30RBIS, which he should,I bet we have
5 to 10 more Wins and
all is well.
7/29/2010-11:44pm at 11:44 pm (UTC -4)
Mets are 9-18 over last 27 games.
It took a 2-9 road trip for that to happen.
a 11 game stretch where the offense did not just disappear it never even existed.
Before that stretch the Mets were 43-32.
The pitching is there it has been about the offense all season long.
Now I will concede Mets shot at playoffs are slim but they are not none but none is knocking on the door.
7/29/2010-11:56pm at 11:56 pm (UTC -4)
Again, who has GREATLY
Except for Bay???
7/30/2010-12:01am at 12:01 am (UTC -4)
reyes for extended stretches (and overall numbers), Beltran of course. Castillo way down from last year (OBP).
7/30/2010-12:03am at 12:03 am (UTC -4)
Francouer based on last year’s production.
7/30/2010-12:12am at 12:12 am (UTC -4)
Oh, Please! What do you think Frenchy is exactly??
7/30/2010-12:19am at 12:19 am (UTC -4)
Not good. Again, just saying that he has not performed based on his stats from last year with the Mets.
If you had Bay performing, Beltran all season, Reyes all season and last year’s Frenchy don’t you think the offense would be ranked higher?
Yeah Bay is a large part of that but those other guys hurt as well. Especially Reyes being out.
7/30/2010-12:30am at 12:30 am (UTC -4)
The Mets offense.
7/30/2010-12:00am at 12:00 am (UTC -4)
well, th eoffense has shown a little bit of spark the last few games.
we all know the met hitters are streaky (most of them). Well, generally after a cold streak, you get a hot streak!
SO if all the guys that were ice get hot, yeah they could run off a nice winning streak.
having bletran showing signs of discovering Bletran is a plus. And reyes has shown improvement.
Get wright going (and hope like Hell whenever bay comes back, he finally puts up one of those months), and yes, this team could run off a 21-9 month, and get right back in the race.
I see no reason they can not. However, it will depend on us continuing to get solid pitching. I would still like to see Omar go out and get one of the Pirates starters or even Carmona. Someone that is not overpriced and can be plugged into next year’s rotation as well.
7/30/2010-12:11am at 12:11 am (UTC -4)
I don’t want Omar moving
ANY of our young
If anything,he should see what he could get for Feliciano since apparently Toronto
&stars for guys
who aren’t a whole lot better..
If better at all.
7/30/2010-12:18am at 12:18 am (UTC -4)
Downs is much better than Feliciano at this point. I would think Pedro is a type A FA?
As for moving young players/prospects I want him to proceed with caution. If you can get a guy who can slot in for next year’s rotation for a decent cost why not? Perhaps that guy is not overpaid and frees up money to change 2B or RF next year.
7/30/2010-12:25am at 12:25 am (UTC -4)
I think that guy just went to the competition today for a pretty reasonable price.
Its over my friend….We won’t look eye to eye with the Phils anymore this season.
7/30/2010-12:29am at 12:29 am (UTC -4)
Carmona is another
Haven’t we been through that enough already?
7/30/2010-12:09am at 12:09 am (UTC -4)
C’mon Stick…Beltran??? Who just got
back??…Reyes who had no ST, hadn’t
played in a year AND has missed time
getting banged up??..And Luis Aches&Pains???…A broken down, mid 30s former slap&speed player??…
Did anyone really think he wasn’t gonna get hurt again??…AND when he did, the Cora/Tejada combo wasn’t effective???…And AGAIN, my question was “outside of JBay, which player’s
production is GREATLY OFF where we
thought/it should be???….
Now it’s gonna be August in a couple days, should his numbers read more
like 16-77-.279???..NOT 6-47-.259????
7/30/2010-12:15am at 12:15 am (UTC -4)
LOL, of course Bay has underperformed. The point is that the offense has struggled because Bay has struggled, Beltran was not there, Reyes has been injured, Castillo has been injured and Francoeur has returned to his normal self.
7/30/2010-12:23am at 12:23 am (UTC -4)
Your missing my point
totally!…Yes I know the offense hasn’t been
great BUT what fool could have expected it
to be “Great”?….
w/o Beltran, free swingers in Barajas&Frenchy,no Reyes early, then likely to start slowly
b/c of no spring, the ticking time bomb that is Castillo’s body….
Weak bench, etc……
I think we actually got more from some than we expected, namely Pagan and Ike arriving so soon AND
so good so fast.
What killed this team is simple, getting nothing at all from
Bay, especially in almost every big spot
AND not having another quality arm or two.
It ain’t that complicated. Instead of continuing to collect journeyman Catchers maybe Omar should have brought in
4 or 5 more journeyman Pitchers and he/we could have otten lucky like we did with Dickey
7/30/2010-12:28am at 12:28 am (UTC -4)
And while Downs is clearly having abetter season and is likely a better Pitcher now than Pedro, if someone is willing to overpay b/c there just aren’t any RPers available, don’t
you atleast explore what you might
get for Feliciano???
7/30/2010-12:33am at 12:33 am (UTC -4)
Alright…I’ll have to say goodnight since my pain meds are kickin’ in
and I’m fadin’ fast….Kinda like our
Mets…Get it??…Stay happy…..
there’s always next season…..
And maybe our GM won’t be named Omar and our Mgr won’t be named Jerry….
THAT would be a good start!
Have a good night!
7/30/2010-8:33am at 8:33 am (UTC -4)
Those offense numbbers are pathetic. This team, despite injuries and collapses, has been near the top in offense the past three years. even last year they had the highest AVG.
So things _will_ turn around. Castillo will get up to speed. (Stop pronouncing him done, he hasn’t been back that long either. He’ll get back to his .380 or so OBP clutch hitting self and contribute. He still looks a step off, in a way he didn’t even look earlier working on the bruise and still playing good defense) Reyes will settle in again, Beltran’s getting back into thigns, Wright’s back to a little bit of a slump, but he’ll hit. Ike’s contributing again, Pagan is awesome. Hopefully Bay isn’t out too long and this little incident is enough to jar him back to normalcy.
they will hit. if the pitching holds up like it seems like it’s going to, this team will make a run. i have no doubt of that.
7/30/2010-9:27am at 9:27 am (UTC -4)
I have no expectation that Castillo will ever get it back to be much better than he is right now. That body is breaking down.
.380OBP? Last year was the only one since 2005 that he managed that, so more of a fluke than this year. And I won’t even touch the clutch hitting part!
it will be especially difficult for him to recover playing every day on bad wheels. Could he get helathier with a winter off? maybe, but more likely, he becomes 1 year older and creakier!
He turns 35 in 6 weeks. And 35 is ancient for a 2B (particularly a Met 2B).
He needs to be gone beofre next year.
7/30/2010-10:06am at 10:06 am (UTC -4)
Disagree. .380 might be a bit high, and 2008 was a fluke mostly, but he’ll get on base regularly. he’s been clutch for most of his Mets career. not lately for sure.
I don’t believe his body is breaking down. a bone bruise wasn’t really a wearing down issue, just bad luck it seemed like. I don’t believe he’s got “Bad wheels” or that he can’t play every day either.
I’d definitely look to move him/dump him next year, and I’m sure the Mets considered it as an option when they signed him anyway. 6mill is really not that much.
but this year? he can definitely contribute, and more so than any options. Felipe Lopez, Hudson, Uggla? no thanks. Tejada? not ready.
7/30/2010-10:21am at 10:21 am (UTC -4)
Let me guess. You had your eggs sunny side up this morning?
7/30/2010-8:58am at 8:58 am (UTC -4)
Having read the above banter and comments from the past days, I’ll say this. To boil this down to 1 person, the person at fault is Bay. I know he’s produced some, but for what he was signed for and what is expected, he’s no where near what is expected. I have to think he’ll do something by the end of the year. Like Ceet says above, “they will hit. if the pitching holds up like it seems like itâ€™s going to, this team will make a run.”
7/30/2010-9:30am at 9:30 am (UTC -4)
Bay has been the biggest disappointment for what he gave you vs. expectations while on the field. Although Ryees for much of the year is giving him a run for the money.
The biggest problem however was flat out missing Beltran.
Effectively, we had to suffer with the drop off from normal Carlos to dismal Frenchy. And that is a bigger gap than Bay to bay!
I do agree though with everyone back, they have the talent and potential to get hot and go on a serious run.
And I am all for it, as long as it does not lead to a jerry extension!
7/30/2010-9:35am at 9:35 am (UTC -4)
In reality, we did have Beltran all year in what Pagan has provided. Granted the hot/cold streaks with Barajas and Frenchy have been crazy, but their overall averaged numbers are fairly consistent with their career averages (unless I’m mistaken).
And a Jerry extension would be him extending his neck on the proverbial guillotine.
7/30/2010-9:44am at 9:44 am (UTC -4)
Phillips on with Mark Malusis on WFAN this morning. As much as I can’t abide Francesa, I’d rather listen to him than Phillips. Of all people for WFAN to bring in as an analyst. Phillips believes:
(a) Mets won’t make any trades by deadline tomorrow. – O.K., I can agree with that.
(b) Mets won’t make a run at post season and won’t be playing ‘meaningful’ games in Sept. Bah….
Anyway, they just had Bobby O on for a few minutes. Some highlights:
Pelfrey: timing/delivery not execution or velocity has been his problem of late. Not a consistent release point. Last time out improvement. No mental anxiety issues but question of mechanical flaw.
Dickey: Exactly as advertised by Ken O. (miner league, don’t make me try and spell his last name). Ken said he’s got this knuckleball figured out, down pat and along with his FB can be very effective.
Niese: Huge mistake to trade Niese. Big, strong, smart kid who does project as a #2 in the future. When he has a lead, doesn’t cough it up. Give him a lead, hangs onto it. Same with Dickey.
OF: Lock down the starting three. Guys need to know who is starting, who is not. Can’t be tinkering and Jerry shouldn’t be concerned with hurting anyones feelings. Set the OF where everyone knows their roles, accept it and play with it. Pagan has been outstanding and he needs to play everyday. When Bay returns, Bay needs to start. Bay is an outstanding player, plus defender, hitting will come around. He’ll turn it on, no doubt about that.
40-20 over next 60 games to get to 92 – win on the road. Can they get it done?
Their numbers on the road are bad. Have been a bit unlucky but tactical mistakes being made, not aggressive, decisions different than at home. Closer on the road in tie game or extras – do it. KRod thrives on pressure situations and close games, let him do his job. Style of play on the road has to be more aggressive. Increase that ‘bad boy’ attitude on the road. ML level guys have to motivate themselves. Have to reach back and pull themselves together.
Area most important to improve on?
Picking up a SP will make BP better. It’s about SP. Taka better suited for the BP. He throws almost too many strikes which is why once through the lineup has been a problem for him but excellent for the BP.
Will Sept be meaningful? We’ll see. Talk is cheap. Go out and show us. Get it done and get it done on the road. Some are comfortable losing by one run. Can’t have that attitude. Again, KRod thrives on pressure, let him do it on the road as well as at home.
Davis: breath of fresh air. Enthusiasm, love his swing, carries it through the zone. Has enough strength and leverage to get it out where only the big boys in Citi field get it out. HoJo has done a tremendous job with him.
What’s the attitude in the clubhouse with Phillies getting Oswalt?
Should be a motivater, not a detractor. If anyone in that locker room is concerned about the Phillies making themselves better, then smack upside the head if anyone in that locker room is doing that (I’m paraphrasing there). If anything, that should be a motivator to the guys to prove they’ve got the talent to compete.
RA Dickey up now…
7/30/2010-9:56am at 9:56 am (UTC -4)
WHy would anything steve “i’d trade strasburg for oswalt straight up” phillips says be taken with anything more that 1-2 grains of salt?
7/30/2010-10:00am at 10:00 am (UTC -4)
Thank you. I really can’t stand Phillips. Not only does his style just grate on me, his whole demeanor just smacks of him being so full of himself. I don’t think he’s one half as smart as he thinks he is.
The whole way he spun that ‘problem’ that caused him being fired by ESPN, blaming it on an addiction, also smacks of PR spinning to save any career he had going forward. Very smart but extremely slimy, IMO…
7/30/2010-10:07am at 10:07 am (UTC -4)
It’s ok to say douchebag about Steve. If the title fits, right?
7/30/2010-10:01am at 10:01 am (UTC -4)
nice summary. Hard to really argue with any of it. Best part might be that Pelf just needs to make a mechanical adjustment to get back to what he had been doing.
Oh, and this line: “tactical mistakes being made, not aggressive, decisions different than at home.”
Like I said: JERRY IS THE PROBLEM!!!!
7/30/2010-10:08am at 10:08 am (UTC -4)
One of the first things they ask him is the Met reaction in the clubhouse to the Oswalt acquisition by the Phils.
RA said for himself and from what he observed in the clubhouse there was a real indifference to Philly getting Oswalt. It was mentioned here and there but the conversation was much more about the game they just won and what they needed to do going forward.
He went on to say, it does make the Phillies better, but if you look at our staff, we’re 5th in the league in pitching. We feel what we have is good enough. Obviously we have to say that but to mean it is something else.
You never master the knuckle ball. But I felt good mechanical from day one this season.
Lots of time off the mound throwing it, up against brick walls, etc., getting the feel for it.
40-20 – Winning streak. Have to improve on the road. Issues?
Mentality issue. Team can get lulled into a place psychologically so that’s who you become. Have to get past that label that the media, etc. has put on us as far as our road issues.
Starts with consistency. Bringing what you bring every game, regardless of where you’re playing. Relentlessly bringing it every time – as I do.
It’s a mental approach. I don’t think we manage differently. Sometimes we fail to show up on the road a bit. It’s a real challenge. We’ll have to win 2 for every 1 we lose going forward.
Return of Beltran. Affect chemistry?
Don’t know who said that but that’s not what I’ve seen. Slow to come back from the layoff but didn’t expect him to be hot from day one. Have to extend him a little grace. Get used to ML pitching again but he’s been showing that this week.
And whoa. Right in the middle of of Dickey talking about Beltran coming back and showing signs of getting back to speed, WFAN cut the interview right off at that point. Right in the middle of him talking. One second Dickey is talking, the next second, Malusis and Phillips commenting on Dickey’s interview for about 30 seconds.
Giving the fact that they then quickly wrapped up their morning show at that point, I have to assume they ran out of time with Dickey dead in the middle of the interview.
And you know, maybe if they didn’t have the Philly GM on between Bobby O and Dickey blah blahing about Oswalt, we could have heard the entire Dickey interview. The only reason I suffered through Phillips the past hour was waiting for that Dickey interview.
7/30/2010-10:25am at 10:25 am (UTC -4)
Jeez, I’m glad I’m no longer in the listening are. What could you expect though from WFAN, who still uses Sid Rosenberg as a fill-in host??
Look, I think we’re done this season as a contender BUT I
think ALOT of positives came out of the yr. We now know
that Ike can reallyplay, Thole
despite the continued “expert”
nay-sayers looks like our
Catcher of the future,Wright
and Reyes have pretty much returned to form from injuries.
Our OF appears set w/Bay,Beltran&Pagan. It would seem that all we need to a solid #2 or 3 SP to go along w/Johan,Pelf,Niese&Dickey.
Parnell&Meijia should be good
next season leading into KRod.
So, at least we won’t go into
the winter w/ like a dozen question marks like last winter. I suspect we’ll finish w/around 85wins, about 8 or so
behind the Division leader and
about 5 back of the Wildcard.
Then it gives Jerry a 50/50
chance or so to return since
the team didn’t quit. The closer to .500 we finish though the more likely Jerry’s
fired. Unfortunately, I also think a solid finish assures
Omar’s return. BUT I think even
HE knows, Ollie& Castillo cannot be part of this team
come S.T.. Even if money has to
be eaten, they simply can’t be
7/30/2010-10:35am at 10:35 am (UTC -4)
The lineup could really use a 2B that could hit the ball out of the infield. And hopefully Bay is not Carlos Baerga/Roberto Alomar II.
Otherwise, I agree that next year’s roster will likely not be significantly different than this years. The focus of the upcoming offseason should be a starter, dumping Castillo and the bullpen.
7/30/2010-10:36am at 10:36 am (UTC -4)
At first I thought, after all the positives you listed going forward, you were predicting 85 wins, 8 back for NEXT year.
I believe though you were saying that about this year.
I’m thinking finishing 8 back pretty much puts the final nail in the coffin for Jerry but who knows what the FO will do?
7/30/2010-10:19am at 10:19 am (UTC -4)
Uggla reportedly going to Rangers for 2 minor league pitchers.
Marlins are an embarrassment.
I can’t find it other than on Roto Authority, so if i’m wrong, i appologize.
7/30/2010-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
You sure it was not just the Cantu trade?
7/30/2010-10:34am at 10:34 am (UTC -4)
Yeah, I’m searching more on it (inbetween work emails). I thought it was odd, but it was updated this morning. Maybe someone at roto authority hasn’t slept much with the trade deadline news abounding? i dunno.
7/30/2010-10:38am at 10:38 am (UTC -4)
ERROR! yeah, you are right TRS. Misprinted info. Trade was for Cantu. I thought it odd that they’d do 2 seperate trades with the marlins, but hey, stranger things have happened.
7/30/2010-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
Texas sure is spending for a team with financial trouble and MLB supposedly watching over its finances.
I guess Kinsler is hurt but good this time.
Jenrry Mejia, who tossed three innings in the Gulf Coast League on Wednesday in his first official game action since straining the back of the rotator cuff while working in Double-A Binghamton’s rotation, was so impressive in the performance he will be moved to a higher level of the minors, outside of Port St. Lucie. Mejia regularly registered 96-98 mph with his fastball during the outing. He allowed one run on four hits and a walk while striking out three.
7/30/2010-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
Strange that Mejia had so much trouble in the big leagues against righties. Hopefully they figure that out before he’s starting games in the big leagues against 6 right handed hitters in a lineup.
His “out pitch,” the changeup, is very effective against lefties. He’ll need to work on his curve against righties.
7/30/2010-10:48am at 10:48 am (UTC -4)
Mike Newman over on Scouting The Sally compares Mets Wilmer Flores with Yanks Jesus Montero prospects.
In ranking the top-25 prospects Iâ€™ve seen since starting Scouting the Sally, Montero ranks 3rd, while Flores currently sits 8th.
At this point, I have seen upwards of 300 Wilmer Flores plate appearances and continue to be impressed by his offensive abilities and unheralded defensive prowess. His overall stat line is tremendous when considering his age and the level of competition and he saves his best at bats for highly ranked prospects. This season alone, I have witnessed him take excellent swings off of Braves prospect Arodys Vizcaino, Astros prospect Tanner Bushue, Rockies prospect Tyler Matzek and others.
While Flores provides more defensive ability than Montero and his contact skills were better at the same level, Flores doesnâ€™t have the thunder in his bat that Montero did, nor does he have as good an approach. This leaves Flores with significantly more room for varied outcomes than Montero has. Iâ€™m 100% sure Montero will mash. Iâ€™m only about 70% sure Flores will.
If I were the Mets, Iâ€™d consider dealing Wilmer Flores in the right package for a top starter. Jesus Montero? He would be untouchable in my mind.
7/30/2010-10:56am at 10:56 am (UTC -4)
right now the problem with the walk off losses has been the hitting not the pitching but if they are seriously going to keep playing with Ollie in the bullpen then it wont matter.
asking your bullpen to throw all these scoreless innings b/c the offense can’t get one run is crazy but unfortunately there is nothing we can do via the trade market to help. Sure we could upgrade Castillo but we all know that isn’t happening so all we can do is hope and pray.
get a decent SP, move Takahashi to the pen and finally take the black hole in the pen off the active roster.
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