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Jul 29

Twitter Tweet: Dickey Pitching Draws Comparisons To Cone


With 8.1 scoreless IP today, R.A. Dickey lowered his ERA to 2.32 … lowest by a #Mets SP with 10+ GS since David Cone in 1988 (2.22). #MLBless than a minute ago via web

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21 comments

  1. rustyjr

    Wow !

  2. GravediggerHebner

    Someone theorized that in about 3 more starts Dickey will have enough innings pitched to qualify for the ERA title. If he did qualify now he’d be 4th in the NL.

    1. rustyjr

      R.A for C.Y !!

      1. njstuckintx

        R A = Re-sign Asap.

        1. metsfan4decades

          Yes, please.
          Seriously, this better be on the table…..

          1. njstuckintx

            What’s he making now? 1 point something. Maybe 2.5 mill per for 2 years? is that too much?

  3. metsfan4decades

    This…
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/sports/baseball/30kepner.html?_r=1&ref=sports

    puts the apparent non action of Omar and the Mets in perspective. Some very good points, but not ones the Met fans want to hear today with the Phils acquisition of Oswalt.

    Bottom line though is the Mets had the depth to survive the Ollie/Maine/Murph injuries but not enough depth for these expensive mid season trades. I, for one, am glad we didn’t trade the likes of a Niese of Davis….

    1. trs86

      Agreed. I just mentioned in the trade post that I believe the Phillies are a win now team and the Mets are not. Some may want us to be and there are positives to being that. However, the Mets are actually a very young team with possibly more on the way.

      1. Mr North Jersey

        To back up your point on the Phils win now approach allow me to add this

        Tm Batters Avg Age â–¾
        PHI 32.0
        HOU 30.4
        LAD 30.0
        CHC 29.9
        WSN 29.5
        SFG 29.5
        CIN 29.2
        LgAvg 29.0
        NYM 29.0
        COL 29.0
        STL 28.8
        SDP 28.8
        ATL 28.7
        MIL 28.4
        FLA 27.3
        PIT 27.0
        ARI 26.8
        29.0
        Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
        Generated 7/29/2010.

        And

        Tm Pitchers Avg hAge â–¾
        PHI 31.8
        ATL 30.5
        STL 30.0
        HOU 30.0
        MIL 29.6
        NYM 29.4
        PIT 29.2
        CHC 29.0
        LgAvg 28.9
        CIN 28.6
        COL 28.4
        ARI 28.3
        SFG 28.1
        LAD 28.0
        WSN 27.9
        SDP 27.2
        FLA 27.1
        28.9
        Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
        Generated 7/29/2010.
        1. Mr North Jersey

          This is before Oswalt was added to roster.

      2. Mr North Jersey

        I should add that while I agree with The Phillies are in win now mode.

        I also think the Mets with
        SS Jose Reyes age 27
        3B David Wright age 27
        1B Ike Davis age 23
        P Mike Pelfrey age 26
        P Jonathon Niese age 23

        As hopefully part of the future they did not bring in Santana, KRod, Bay, Ollie, Castillo to win down the road.

        1. trs86

          Krod and Ollie are only 28. Johan was also signed with longterm winning in mind. Bay and Castillo were obviously compete now type players.

          I am not saying the Mets don’t want to compete right now. I am saying their moves have been more of the lets try to compete now and compete later. Not sure if that is the best method or not but…

    2. ceetar

      if one of Ollie or Maine had been good, we’d actually be just fine in pitching and maybe looking to swap someone. if Murphy had stayed healthy, he may have found himself valuable if he improved his game as I suspected he would. Would the Mets have had the guts to sell high on Murphy in July if that was the case and promote Davis, an unproven rookie hitting .360 in AAA? who knows. Irrelevant now, but their depth helped them repeat last year, but did keep them from having too much to trade. I’m not sure I’d even have traded Niese straight up for Oswalt.

      1. Kingman 26

        Very interesting last sentence. I think I agree. I think we may be watching that curveball for many years.

        Still, you have to admire the idea of Doc, Roy Harvey, and Hole Camels in a playoff series. That’s scary.

        Let’s just hope the Rays can beat the Bronx Greenbacks in the ALCS so I don’t have to root for the Phils again in the WS and face the wrath of TRS….

        :-)

        1. njstuckintx

          Hole Camels. Brilliant.

          1. Kingman 26

            Thanks but alas I cannot take credit…not sure who said it first, but I have seen it elsewhere.

            I WAS the first to call Oswalt “Roy Harvey Oswalt” though, and that along with Nattering Nabobs of Negativity and Junior Core are my personal favorite Knog-isms.

    3. Kingman 26

      Thanks for posting this MF4D. I really loved the team that began with the Sept callups of Mookie, Hubie, and Wally all those years ago. I think we are beginning to see that now with Ike, Niese, and Thole.

      I am patient and willing to wait. I desperately wanted Halladay and also CC two years ago too but we have such potential.

      I am willing to wait till next year for a playoff berth and even two years for a title. We can do it if the Junior Core pans out and Omar (if he stays) can get us another vet or two. Johan, Niese, Dickey, Pelf and one more arm (Mejia??) Can be a really good rotation with another year of maturity from Niese and Pelf.

      1. metsfan4decades

        While I still think the Mets have been on the conservative side, that article had some very good points. I’m not one to be on the side of ‘all in’, but I know some of my fellow Met fans are – and actually wouldn’t have minded trading the likes of Niese for a pitching ace such as Oswalt on the wrong side of 30.

        For the first time in a long time we’ve got a core of good to very good young players – the ‘junior core’ as you’ve so aptly named them. I’ll even include Dickey in that group because even though he’s 35, his arm is apparently not…

        Bare minimum, still need a SP going into next year. Preferably a couple….

        1. Kingman 26

          Agreed as usual MF4D.

          I badly wanted every top-notch starter the last couple of years, but with every Niese start I am more adamantly opposed to trading him. And I was opposed to trading him from the outset. He may wind up as the King of the Junior Core.

          It is nice that Cashen did not trade Darryl, Doc, Mookie, etc. in the 1980–1983 period.

          I hope we can look back on Niese and Ike and a few others this way in 2-3 years. And for decades after that.

          1. stickguy

            Hey Knog. Pencil in 8/14 (saturday) as track day.

          2. njstuckintx

            Agreed on Niese and Ike. And that is the fear with Mejia, I’m sure, as well as Fmart. What if they turn out to be awesome? But I guess that’s why Omar gets paid the big bucks… To make those decisions based on the conversations heard in the bagel stores.

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