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#Mets vs. Braves on Tuesday: Reyes-SS, Pagan-LF, Beltran-CF, Wright-3B, Davis-1B, Thole-C, Francoeur-RF, Castillo-2B, Dickey- RHPless than a minute ago via webNew York MetsNewYorkMets
8/3/2010-4:07pm at 4:07 pm (UTC -4)
I think I prefer Wright – Davis – Beltran.
8/3/2010-4:23pm at 4:23 pm (UTC -4)
I’m torn. I think Beltran needs to be lower while he works toward being more “Beltranny” (let me re-think that adjective) but I also think Ike could benefit from a lower pressure spot in the order while he adjusts and develops.
8/3/2010-4:30pm at 4:30 pm (UTC -4)
My fear is with no one really batting behind Ike, he’s going to get more than the normal amount of curveballs they throw his way. He can be pitched around more, so to speak.
Would Beltranastic or Beltrastic suffice for a description?
8/3/2010-4:33pm at 4:33 pm (UTC -4)
It’s a legit fear. I think it was you who said earlier “2010 Mets – not optimal” and it applies here too.
Any description would be better than Beltranny which reeks of hookers at the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel. I’ve said too much.
8/3/2010-4:35pm at 4:35 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, it’s 6 of one at this point.
The 2010 Mets and your last comment – not optimal!
8/3/2010-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
LoL a caller just called Francessa and said Reyes has not played a full season on the field except for one.
I guess for him 161 or better is considered a full season on the field.
Jose Reyes games played
I agree actually. Reyes’ only full season was 2006, where he played 163 games.
The Mets didn’t have full seasons those other three, therefore neither did Reyes.
8/3/2010-4:32pm at 4:32 pm (UTC -4)
8/3/2010-4:24pm at 4:24 pm (UTC -4)
And just in case you missed it at the bottom of the last post…
The problem with Met fans is their loyalty, especially to Wright and Reyes.
â€˜Theyâ€™ve been rotten big time players. They have no team glory.
Your team has done nothing but lose. Iâ€™m not saying to give them away but the way the team has performed, gagged it up in â€˜07, gagged it up in â€˜08, stunk the house up in â€˜09 and is fading fast in â€˜10â€¦no one should be untouchableâ€™.
Gloryâ€¦is that all we need is glory? Ahâ€¦all this time I thought it was heart and grit.
What I wouldnâ€™t give to see the Yankees tank going down the stretch and miss the playoffs. Iâ€™d tune into MFâ€™s show every afternoon just to hear him have to â€˜discussâ€™ that.
Go Rays! Go Boston! Go Twins!
8/3/2010-4:31pm at 4:31 pm (UTC -4)
For the last 15 years it has not been much fun to listen to Francesa during the baseball post season stretch.
Francesa: Mets have insulted fans by putting Ollie back on the team.
I definitely feel something.
8/3/2010-4:36pm at 4:36 pm (UTC -4)
Francessa: Manuel using Ollie on Sunday was to send a message.
8/3/2010-4:39pm at 4:39 pm (UTC -4)
what, pray tell, would that message be?
8/3/2010-4:46pm at 4:46 pm (UTC -4)
That he’s a liar basically and can’t be trusted with anything he says.
8/3/2010-4:50pm at 4:50 pm (UTC -4)
Now that you say that I thought it was reported Manuel was going to shake up the lineup… again?
8/3/2010-4:59pm at 4:59 pm (UTC -4)
He did – he took the line up on paper and shook it in the air
8/3/2010-5:06pm at 5:06 pm (UTC -4)
Line up by Boggle.
First off – dickeys pitching so hopefully this will be a win
secondly Jorge Sosa has been dfa’d by the marlins – what’s the odds Omar signs em ?
8/3/2010-5:08pm at 5:08 pm (UTC -4)
LOL…I hope next to nothing odds….
8/3/2010-5:12pm at 5:12 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks for making me nauseous before dinner Rusty!
8/3/2010-5:15pm at 5:15 pm (UTC -4)
I’m about to have some chowdah – btw kong I saw chopped on food network and they had a chef from Woodstock / saug area who was inaalt band called blood ( I think) ever hear of em ?
8/3/2010-5:22pm at 5:22 pm (UTC -4)
No, I don’t think I know a band called Blood.
Sounds like I would probably like them though….I like alt rock and I like good food….
8/3/2010-5:28pm at 5:28 pm (UTC -4)
Chris botti Bernie hancock & chick corea are playin the jazz fest up here this weekend – too bad I’ll be back in NYC by then
8/3/2010-5:46pm at 5:46 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah went to a few Jazz Fests there in the early 90s…great place to wander around in the sun, eat and drink, and watch bands.
Newport is SO damn pricy though. But great seafood restaurants and that Sumo Sushi place by the downtown waterfront rocks!
8/3/2010-5:14pm at 5:14 pm (UTC -4)
This team needs more grit…. let’s just sign 9 Francouers and maybe we’ll win then!
8/3/2010-5:51pm at 5:51 pm (UTC -4)
That and Eckstein and we may as well start fitting everyone for WS rings!
8/3/2010-7:04pm at 7:04 pm (UTC -4)
Of course!! Don’t forget Joe McEwing…
8/3/2010-7:15pm at 7:15 pm (UTC -4)
what is with your hate of Eckstein Kingman?! I don’t get this. The man is a winner. He’s not Babe Ruth, I get that, but a WS MVP is a winner in my book.
8/3/2010-8:02pm at 8:02 pm (UTC -4)
Hey what’s the deal Putz? I don’t get on you every day for your hatred of Jay-Z, who kicks Eckencrappy’s ass all over the field!
Eckstein is a very nonproductive player who has been on very good teams and played very well in a few postseason series.
Anything inaccurate about that?
He’s a “winner” because he was on the Angels and Cards when they were excellent. If he’s so great, why the hell has he been on four teams in 7 years??
Is Ernie Banks not a winner?
8/3/2010-8:17pm at 8:17 pm (UTC -4)
Do you see me bashing Ernie Banks?
He’s had plenty of seasons where he hit and driven in 60+ runs, which is good, considering he probably batted 2nd or in some not so big rbi spot, and considering he plays a position that doesn’t give much offensive production. He’s also one of the hardest guys in baseball to strikeout. Add the fact that he has been money in the playoffs and WS when his team most needed him, and I’d say you’re assessment of nonproductive is very unfair. Again, he’s not Ruth, but I wouldn’t call a clutch hitting, almost impossible to k, .290 BA hitting SS non productive.
After all, how can you be non-productive, meaning he doesn’t produce, when he produced enough in the world series, the absolute biggest event in Baseball, to earn the award of most valuable player.
8/3/2010-8:31pm at 8:31 pm (UTC -4)
Eckstein has never had a SLG pct over .400.
If it is “impossible” to strike him out, it is even MORE impossible for him to draw a walk, as he has struck out about 10% more than he has walked.
In his three postseason series before the 2006 WS, he was 12-for-61.
He’s not fast anymore and is a so-so fielder.
He’s been on 4 teams in 4 years.
He has gotten hot at the right times in a few postseason series, and his profile among a certain segment of fans dramatically outweighs his actual production.
If he is so productive and great, why has he played on four teams in four years?
Pssst—the answer is because he is vastly overrated by fans who think that anyone who does well in a postseason series (except of course Wright or Beltran or Delgado) is a “winner!!”
Eckstein is mediocre.
Jay-Z is better.
8/3/2010-8:51pm at 8:51 pm (UTC -4)
First of all your talking about the end of his career at this point with he whole switching teams thing. Again, he’s not great. But, he is not as you put it invaluable. He’s just not. How can you win two ws with two separate teams while starting at arguably the most important position as invaluable. He sure was valuable for the Cardinals and Angels.
All I am saying is that over his career, he has been a good player. He certainly doesn’t deserved to be called-out and bashed.
He has played SS for most of his career. A position that usually doesn’t give much offensive production. Most of his career he hit around .290, good, not great.
Where me and you disagree is that you continue to insult him and call him out, where I think that he has deserved the label of a decent-to-good player, and say all you want about getting hot at the right time, but isn’t that what post season baseball is all about? Maybe if your boy D-Wright could have gotten hot at the right time we’d be seeing a 2006 WS champions banner hanging in Citi Field.
but don’t take the wright comment out of proportion, I just threw that in there for dramatic effect.
8/3/2010-9:19pm at 9:19 pm (UTC -4)
Well, the hitters certainly collapsed in the 2006 NLCS against the Cards, that is for sure.
And I am not sure that I have called out and dissed Eckstein very many times.
Sure, he played well on VERY good teams and was valuable for them; no doubt.
I think he is probably a little better than I give him credit for and not quite as good as you may think he is.
That’s fair isn’t it?
See, I am trying real hard to grow up!
8/3/2010-7:14pm at 7:14 pm (UTC -4)
I have nothing really to add, but I just wanted to say that I love Angel Pagan…that is all. We need 8 pagans.
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