Buffalo-
3b Justin Turner 0 for 4, .299
lf Lucas Duda 1 for 4, run, 2b (14), 2 Ks, .307
1b Nick Evans 0 for 4, K, .381
cf Jorge Padilla 3 for 4, 2b, .313
ss Ruben Tejada 0 for 4, 2 Ks, .279
Tobi Stoner 5.1 IP, 10 H, 4 ER, 4 BBs, 6.07 era (Has hit the AAA wall)
Sean Green 0.1 IP, 3.38 era
Chad Cordero IP, 0.00 era
John Lujan IP, H
Bing-
ss Jose Coronado 2 for 4, 2 runs, 2b, BB, .232
2b Josh Satin 1 for 5, 2b, RBI, 2 Ks, .308
cf Kirk Nieuwenhuis 2 for 5, 2 runs, 2b (35), RBI (60), K, .292
lf Sean Ratliff 1 for 4, run, BB, 2 Ks, .330
3b Zach Lutz 1 for 4, 2b (9), 2 RBI (30), BB, K, .291
Mark Cohoon 5.2 IP, 7 H, 4/2 R/ER, 1/3 BB/K, 6.63 era,
Dylan Owen 2 H, 2 R, BB, K, 3.09 era
Eric Niesen 0.1 IP, K, 4.88 era
Eddie Kunz 1.2 IP, 3 H, 3 Ks
Roy Merritt IP, 2 Ks, 3.92 era
St. Lucie
cf Pedro Zapata 2 for 5, run, 2b (2), .250
lf Hector Pellot 2 for 5, .270
c Luke Montz 1 for 3, run, 2 BBs, .250
ss Wilmer Flores 2 for 5, 2 runs, HR (4), 2 RBI (23), .313
1b Stefan Welch 1 for 4, 2 RBI (58), 2 Ks, .270
3b Richard Lucas 2 for 4, .203
rf Rafael Fernandez 0 for 4, 3 Ks, .305
Brad Holt 4.2 IP, 5 H, 5/4 R/ER, 2/5 BB/K
Nick Carr 2 IP, H, 2/1 R/ER, 2/1 BB/K, 4.82 era
Erik Turgeon 2 IP, 2/3 BB/K, 2.08 era
Savannah-
ss Wilfredo Tovar 0 for 5, .273
dh Robbie Shields 1 for 5, RBI (4), 2 Ks, .256
rf Cesar Puello 2 for 5, K, .293, CS (9)
3b Travis Ozga 1 for 4, run, 2b, .277
2b Jet Butler 1 for 3, run, RBI, BB, K, .250
lf Nick Santomauro 1 for 4, 2b (10), RBI (11), K, .175
cf RJ Harris 2 for 4, run, 3b, .177
Taylor Whitenton 4 IP, 7 H, 4/2 R/ER, 3/2 BB/K, 4.52 era
Gabriel Zavala IP, 1/2 BB/K, 0.39 era
Brandon Sage IP, 2 H, ER, 3.69 era
BK-
ss Rylan Sandoval 2 for 4, run, HR, RBI, .329
cf Darrell Ceciliani 0 for 4, 3 Ks, .379
rf Cory Vaughn 0 for 4, .302
1b Jeff Flagg 2 for 3, .296
dh Joe Bonfe 0 for 4, .333
3b Brian Harrison 1 for 4, .272
2b JB Brown 0 for 3, .287
c Juan Centeno 0 for 2, BB, .339
Mitch Houck 4 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 2 BBs, HR, 3.73 era
Nelson Pereira 3 IP, 3 H, ER, 5 Ks
Samuel Taveras 0.1 IP, 2 H, 4 ER, BB
Kingsport-
cf Chase Greene 0 for 4, 2 Ks, .283
2b Justin Schafer 2 for 4, K, .333
3b Aderlin Rodriguez 0 for 4, 3 Ks, .288
rf Javier Rodriguez 0 for 1, HBP, .325 (left after being HBP)
pr, rf Charlie Hinojosa 1 for 2, run, K, .154
c Albert Cordero 1 for 4, run, .276
lf ZeErika McQueen 0 for 3, 2 Ks, .275
dh Nelfi Zapata 1 for 2, BB, .250
ss Ismael Tijernia 0 for 3, 3 Ks, .280
Bret Mitchell 5 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 2/7 BB/K, HR, 5.63 era
50 comments
njstuckintx
8/4/2010-9:25am at 9:25 am (UTC -4)
These pitching prospects are not instilling happy thoughts of the future to come.
metro
8/4/2010-9:37am at 9:37 am (UTC -4)
We don’t have much in way of pitching prospects. Hopefully Harvey signs. I’d say…. Harvey, Carson, Allen (despite a disappointing year), Familia (despite terrible year), Armando Rodriguez, Erik Goedel, Juan Urbina, Dotson (though it looks like he’s hurt again), Gee and maybe a few others would be the best of the bunch
njstuckintx
8/4/2010-9:49am at 9:49 am (UTC -4)
I’m sensing many a free agent starting pitcher in our future, based on that crew. A lot of a “hope and a prayer” in that bunch.
Mr North Jersey
8/4/2010-9:50am at 9:50 am (UTC -4)
How about Brandon Moore?
I been impressed with his SO/BB ration while in Savannah.
metro
8/4/2010-10:10am at 10:10 am (UTC -4)
Only throws 85, 86… righties with velocity like that very, very, very rarely make it.
Mr North Jersey
8/4/2010-10:21am at 10:21 am (UTC -4)
interesting I was not aware he threw a fastball that topped out in that range. Pretty impressive how he was able to rack up so many k’s but true unless he has some type of killer breaking ball that I am not aware it will be interesting to watch how he does against more experienced hitters.
metro
8/4/2010-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
Toby Hyde recently did a “report” on him here-
“RHP Brandon Moore
Why He Missed the Top 41: Despite throwing the first no-hitter in Cyclones history in 2009, I can’t get excited about RHP with below average fastballs
2010: Moore’s season started a little bit late, but once the 24-year old found his rhythm, he helped carry the Gnats to the first half championship. He could throw his slider for strikes, and he threw it a lot. In the SAL, again, if you can throw a breaking ball for strikes, that’s all you need. His fastball was mostly 87 mph.
I Missed: Nada
Top 41 This Winter: Doubt it.”
http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/?s=moore&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&submit=Search
Mr North Jersey
8/4/2010-9:52am at 9:52 am (UTC -4)
Hey Metro do you ever plan on doing a breakdown on some of the Mets prospects we should keep an eye on in the next year or two?
I would love to read your perspective on say a Carson for example or a Duda.
oleosmirf
8/4/2010-10:02am at 10:02 am (UTC -4)
is Metro affiliated with Amazin Ave in anyway b/c his reports are just copying and pasting from this:
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2010/8/4/1604658/mets-daily-farm-system-report-8-4#storyjump
metro
8/4/2010-10:11am at 10:11 am (UTC -4)
I copy and paste nothing other than taking reports I put on BBI (a giants site) and paste them here.
metro
8/4/2010-10:14am at 10:14 am (UTC -4)
I don’t think it’s very hard to have the same information…. Any of you guys could do it. Read up on the Mets prospects, go to Milb.com and look at the box scores and note guys you think are “prospects” for instance the guy you linked seems to feel Pascucci is worth mentioning (I don’t). Savannah he felt there were only 4 guys worth mentioning while I felt there were a few more. How have I copied and pasted what that guy writes? I’m perplexed.
Mr North Jersey
8/4/2010-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
I am sure Oleo after a 2nd look will see it was a simple misinterpretation on his part.
Mr North Jersey
8/4/2010-10:16am at 10:16 am (UTC -4)
Clearly it is not copy n paste.
They are both reporting the same thing but if you look at structure they are not a copy n paste as you said.
Metro
3b Justin Turner 0 for 4, .299
lf Lucas Duda 1 for 4, run, 2b (14), 2 Ks, .307
1b Nick Evans 0 for 4, K, .381
cf Jorge Padilla 3 for 4, 2b, .313
ss Ruben Tejada 0 for 4, 2 Ks, .279
Tobi Stoner 5.1 IP, 10 H, 4 ER, 4 BBs, 6.07 era (Has hit the AAA wall)
Sean Green 0.1 IP, 3.38 era
Chad Cordero IP, 0.00 era
John Lujan IP, H
Amazin Ave
SS Ruben Tejada: 0-4, 2 K (.279/.326/.344)
RF Val Pascucci: 3-4, 2B, RBI, K (.261/.385/.590); first start since Thursday
LF Lucas Duda: 1-4, R, 2B, 2 K (.307/.363/.656)
1B Nick Evans: 0-4, K (.381/.381/.524); first game without a hit since his promotion
SP Tobi Stoner: 5.1IP, 4 ER, 10 H, 4 BB, 0 K, 0 HR (5-10, 6.07 ERA, 115.2 IP, 150 H, 41 BB, 79 K, 18 HR); another tough day for Stoner
RP Chad Cordero: 1.0 IP, 0 ER, 0 H, 0 BB, 0 K, 0 HR (0-0, 0.00 ERA, 4.0 IP, 4 H, 2 BB, 1 K, 0 HR)
Not copy n paste.
oleosmirf
8/4/2010-10:30am at 10:30 am (UTC -4)
it was this post not amazin ave that had stark similarites.
http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/08/83-minor-league-report-2.html
ive just never seen any statbook show ER, R, BB and K like this before: 4/2 R/ER, 3/2 BB/K and both websites use the same format…just curious thats all…
metro
8/4/2010-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
I’m good friends with Tej and I assure you I would never “copy” him but we discuss the minors every night as a matter of fact. You’ll notice Tej included guys I don’t have any interest in like former Cub Michael Barrett, I also have no clue what the numbers mean next to the pitchers names mean though. Tej has his own site too, and I think he and I are going to be doing some work with Joe Demayo.
metro
8/4/2010-10:16am at 10:16 am (UTC -4)
Yeah. I was planning on waiting till the the end of August because that’s when they do some late season promotions and we have a slightly better grasp on where they see guys. For instance… I think Ceciliani belongs in St. Lucie in CF next year but with den Dekker signing I could see Ceciliani in Savannah or in St. Lucie in LF.
oleosmirf
8/4/2010-9:57am at 9:57 am (UTC -4)
the problem has been all these prospects seem to hit a wall the second they reach AA. The only one that was able to post good numbers in AA was Ryan Coultas (now 28) and he’s been out for the year with a torn labrum…
with no MLB ready prospects next season, (no Mejia is not MLB ready despite his inclusion in the pen to start the year) a FA or trade for a stop gap is the only option for now.
Mr North Jersey
8/4/2010-10:05am at 10:05 am (UTC -4)
Mejia could of been that pitcher to break the AA barrier but you know how that went. Yes went to Majors but in the end he was sent down to continue to develop as a starter.
Let’s hope the Mets and Mejia agree to go play in winterball and continue to get work in like they did last season.
njstuckintx
8/4/2010-10:05am at 10:05 am (UTC -4)
Pretty much. Assuming you’re rolling with Santana, Pelf, Niese, Dickey & someone, with
I’d say look for someone with high risk / high upside, as the FA market is pretty crappy for SPs. I know that leaves the Mets in the same situation as they are in now, but I can’t see Lee being signed, I’m not all that enamored with Lilly and after that it’s a fairly steep decline. Maybe durscherere? Vazquez? I can see this team being in the same situation next year as this year. I just hope the high riskers pay off or the Mejia is stretched out properly and ready to contribute to the team come May/June?
oleosmirf
8/4/2010-10:13am at 10:13 am (UTC -4)
i want to see what Vasquez does for the Yankees in Sept and the playoffs before I would want to bring him here. He has a reputation as being a horrendous big game pitcher and his struggles in NY have been well documented. That said, ne can erase that stigma fairly quickly in the coming months.
I also agree that the Mets should look at 1 year incentive-laden risk/reward guy in Duchscherer, Webb or Chris Young.
njstuckintx
8/4/2010-10:17am at 10:17 am (UTC -4)
I’d vote for this post if it was on the ballot.
DNDJohan aka kistics
8/4/2010-10:11am at 10:11 am (UTC -4)
And yet, the Mets FO want to keep their prospects.
njstuckintx
8/4/2010-10:12am at 10:12 am (UTC -4)
It’s either that or no one wanted the prospects they had…
metro
8/4/2010-10:25am at 10:25 am (UTC -4)
It’s not a deep system and with most of their pitchers having disappointing years the drop off from “elite” to next group was massive. I mean coming into the year there were high hopes for Holt, Familia, Allen, Niesen, etc plus Havens has been hurt and Fernando has disappointed.
fongy2
8/4/2010-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
Yeah BUT
Omar would tell you
not to worry about
FMart…
He’s still very young!
metro
8/4/2010-10:34am at 10:34 am (UTC -4)
Well to be fair he IS still only 21 and he has 12-13 homers and 15 or so doubles in about 250 ab’s so ALL is not lost YET lol.
fongy2
8/4/2010-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
I’m starting to think he won’
t even be Dave DeJesus anymore.
metro
8/4/2010-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
Well DeJesus wasn’t even yet in the minors at 21 (still in college) and didn’t even reach AAA till 23.
fongy2
8/4/2010-10:41am at 10:41 am (UTC -4)
I mean the type of player he’ll be when he reaches the majors for good.
metro
8/4/2010-10:51am at 10:51 am (UTC -4)
I still think Fernando will be a good player. I honestly do.
oleosmirf
8/4/2010-10:57am at 10:57 am (UTC -4)
i don’t see it…even when he does see the field his numbers are not very impressive.
metro
8/4/2010-11:02am at 11:02 am (UTC -4)
I disagree. Last year he had an .877 OPS at AAA as a 20 year old before he got hurt
metro
8/4/2010-11:02am at 11:02 am (UTC -4)
He also won MVP of the Caribbean series
fongy2
8/4/2010-10:30am at 10:30 am (UTC -4)
I’m just wondering if anyone knows why Ramon Ortiz was given his release from Buffalo roght after throwing a
2-hitter?? “The next Pedro Martinez”
seemed like he was doing pretty well
in his attempts to get back to the
Majors. On the topic of this thread,
I’m gonna see Bingo 3 games next week
down here against H’Burg. SO maybe i’ll something positive to add about
some of our AA players. Apparently,I’ll miss Josh Stinson who
I don’t believe is schedule to start
any of the 3. Really wanted to see him
more than any other starter.
oleosmirf
8/4/2010-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
hopefully to make room for Oliver Perez in the rotation…
metro
8/4/2010-10:33am at 10:33 am (UTC -4)
Adam Rubin said it’s because he needed to be promoted or “on the verge of promotion” by 8/1, they requested he stay 2-3 more starts and he still opted out
fongy2
8/4/2010-10:36am at 10:36 am (UTC -4)
Thanks….I thought
maybe he was caught
pissin’ in the parkin’
lot or smoking a bone
along the side of some road outside the stadium
njstuckintx
8/4/2010-11:09am at 11:09 am (UTC -4)
Nope, was busted throwing back a couple of the plastic bats full of beer they sell at Jersey Jackles games for $4.
metro
8/4/2010-10:33am at 10:33 am (UTC -4)
Justin Turner, the infielder who was claimed off waivers from the Baltimore Orioles in May and who appeared in four games during the Mets’ West Coast trip to open the second half, lost a 10-game hitting streak Tuesday. Turner nonetheless is hitting .410 (16-for-39) with five doubles, two homers and eight runs scored since returning from the majors.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/7947/farm-report-misch-statement
oleosmirf
8/4/2010-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
hopefully he gets the playing time over Cora in September as it would be nice to have someone else as despite common logic, that extra 1.2 mil he makes over a comparable player is becoming more important as the Wilpon’s willingness to spend goes down…
tkfj2
8/4/2010-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/08/03/2010-08-03_new_york_mets_wont_try_to_send_oliver_perez_back_to_minors_and_they_wont_cut_lef.html
No surprise. Also would not be surprised to see Ollie next year as well.
oleosmirf
8/4/2010-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
only the Mets would keep this guy here. The mets are 1-13 when Ollie pitches this season…
metro
8/4/2010-10:41am at 10:41 am (UTC -4)
I’m trying to get some information on Gabriel Zavala (converted OF) in terms of stuff but Rubin nor Toby Hyde have been much help. His numbers are eyepopping.
metsfan4decades
8/4/2010-11:31am at 11:31 am (UTC -4)
On another note…found this tidbit on Mets Merized latest post concerning Beltran ‘Trading Beltran Is Not An Option, I’ll Tell You Why’.
He gives #5 reasons why trading him is not an option. It’s the 5th reason he gives I found interesting as I didn’t know this:
*************************
In addition to those four reasons, there is another, and it might be the most compelling argument as to why Carlos Beltran is untradeable.
When the Mets landed Beltran and signed him to that $119 million dollar, seven year deal, there was a special clause his agent Scott Boras insisted in adding to the contract. At the time, it was no big deal because everyone in the Mets front office didn’t see any chance that Beltran wouldn’t play at a high level for all seven years of the contract.
As part of the deal, Carlos Beltran can not be offered arbitration after the 2011 season.
That means no first round draft pick and no supplemental first round draft pick for the team that trades for him. This also applies to the Mets if they hang on to him.
****************************************
Well……along with the full no trade clause, the money left on his contract, the state of his knees and the no arbitration clause, I’m thinking Beltran is here to stay through 2011.
Mr North Jersey
8/4/2010-11:32am at 11:32 am (UTC -4)
How about trading Pagan?
njstuckintx
8/4/2010-11:39am at 11:39 am (UTC -4)
Sell high. Light ‘em if you got ‘em…
njstuckintx
8/4/2010-11:41am at 11:41 am (UTC -4)
And honestly, looking at the minor league system, that’s about the one strong position that has plenty of prospects (upside speaking).
metsfan4decades
8/4/2010-12:36pm at 12:36 pm (UTC -4)
Don’t we want Pagan for RF next year?
njstuckintx
8/4/2010-11:45am at 11:45 am (UTC -4)
Moral of the story, stay away Boras. He’s smarter than we like to think.
GravediggerHebner
8/4/2010-12:23pm at 12:23 pm (UTC -4)
What is the deal with Chad Cordero? Is he in Buffalo just in case someone gets injured up here or if he performs well down there will he get a call up regardless?