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Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports has some interesting tidbits for Mets fans. Hat tip to MLBTR for reminding us that Rosenthal does this stuff:
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9/4/2010-6:12pm at 6:12 pm (UTC -4)
Ricco promoted & Wally to the marlins – I think the fanbase would spontaneously combust
9/4/2010-6:23pm at 6:23 pm (UTC -4)
I can see that as truly being a last straw for some people. I know you and I will be here regardless, we’re hooked, but I can see some people just throwing up their hands and looking for another summer hobby.
9/4/2010-6:18pm at 6:18 pm (UTC -4)
I have a hard time thinking of Ricco as the answer. But, who knows. maybe he is the next big thing? certainly the polar opposite skill set from Omar.
but, I really think that someone like that has to 100% be paired with a savvy BB vet that really knows talent and scouting. Maybe Wanyne? who knows.
and wally to the marlins? WTH for? don’t they have a manager already? or are they on the 1 year plan again?
9/4/2010-6:22pm at 6:22 pm (UTC -4)
The guy with the marlins is a interim manager – I’m sorry but I see ricco as al harazin jr – strict beancounter with no baseball savy
9/4/2010-6:25pm at 6:25 pm (UTC -4)
at one point, it seemed to be the new FO model was a dual-GM role. A numbers guy (ricco) paired with a talent guy (like gillick), since you didn’t often find one guy that was really good at both pieces.
well, decided to listen to this (after commenting, of course).
no indication the marlins are considering wally. just that they want someone “dynamic”, and wally qualifies. Although lumping him in with fregosi and valentine as options is quite a stretch.
I like his Marlins motto though: no more vanilla!
the GM options were interesting. harte and jennings (who I never hear mentioned). But again, it seems like just him speculating names, but not that there was any valid intell behind them.
9/4/2010-6:32pm at 6:32 pm (UTC -4)
Lol I didn’t listen to it – I read what mlbtr wrote
9/4/2010-6:31pm at 6:31 pm (UTC -4)
John Hart is the worst part of MLB Network. He’s such an equivocator he makes me look like I have a spine full of strong opinions. The last thing the Mets need is a wishy-washy GM.
He had a great run with the mid-90′s Indians but I doubt he’d be able to recreate that in Queens. He’s under contract with the Rangers as a “senior adviser” through 2013 and I say let him stay there.
9/4/2010-6:43pm at 6:43 pm (UTC -4)
9/4/2010-6:38pm at 6:38 pm (UTC -4)
Did anyone read the piece yesterday (part on deadspin I think) about Omar flying out to Chicago, on Jetblue in coach (although I assume all jet blue is steerage anyway), on a plain full of met fans and getting heckled?
No idea how true it is, but it was funny.
And key to it, why the heck was omar flying out to chicago for, on what must have been short notice (explaining the jet blue aspect)?
9/4/2010-6:44pm at 6:44 pm (UTC -4)
I’m sure that it’s been blown out of proportion
Yes, I saw that somewhere too. I couldn’t tell if it was a joke or not.
9/4/2010-7:07pm at 7:07 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, Heyman was whining about it on twitter.
9/4/2010-6:48pm at 6:48 pm (UTC -4)
What is wrong with Jeff Wilpon? Anyone?
What makes Wilpon think Ricco is going to be much different than Omar?
I still say the #1 priority is replacing Omar with the best GM Wilpon can hire. Not saving money and not hiring from within, not picking up someone like Hart.
Spend the money on the the best GM. Save money on the manager if you have to – re: Wally. The best GM money can buy will go so much farther in turning this franchise around than a high profile, expensive manager.
9/4/2010-6:52pm at 6:52 pm (UTC -4)
and not getting someone that will toady to him as a puppet.
but actually, not sure if Ricco would be better or worse, but man, it seems like he would be the polar opposite of Omar!
I agree too, spend the money on a super smart GM, and get a young, hungry, cheap go getter for manager.
9/4/2010-8:30pm at 8:30 pm (UTC -4)
Hey, here’s something I know MF will like. Well, at least she will agree with the first part about Jerry and Omar (especially Omar).
Pretty sure the 2nd part (at least the ricco piece) might not go over so well.
9/4/2010-9:47pm at 9:47 pm (UTC -4)
Ha!. I see I’m not the only one who thinks replacing the GM is a very good way to start to turn this franchise around.
I think he’s right. I think it is a cultural thing, mindset, whatever you’d like to call it. Watching the team the past month or so I just can’t help thinking it’s a general feeling of frustration, malaise or combo of both.
Sure, we need some players to fill some holes this off season. I just hope it’s not Omar at the helm making the decisions. Nothing personal. Just think as long as he’s the GM, nothing much will change as a whole.
It’s not only us fans who need something to pin our hopes on next season. I think the players themselves are looking for changes as well.
9/4/2010-10:22pm at 10:22 pm (UTC -4)
entirely possible that even the players start to feel like “what will happen next” on this team.
But, a new big boss, with a serious and professional message and expectations, flowing down to a new manager and coaches, can just as easily change the prevailing mindset.
9/5/2010-11:22am at 11:22 am (UTC -4)
Fred and Jeff are a black box, it’s almost impossible to know whether they truly understand the problem. Only real hope is that the army of empty seats at Citi gets the message across.
Outsider as GM is still 50-50 at best. Fred has much bigger problems right now, and he still seems content to let his son run (ruin?) the show.
Don’t the Wilpons have other investors they need to worry about? What about this Katz guy?
I think some of these posts are too negative on Ricco — he supposedly is well regarded for what he does, issue is whether he is the right fit.
If given the choice, Backman takes the Mets job — history plus longer leash.
Oh, for those of you who point to Showalter as evidence that a new manager can turn things around by himself, check the Orioles performance over the last week or so.
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