This has been a season of a few amazingly high moments and way to many disappointingly low moments, but there have been some surprises – some good and some bad. Yes this team has had a few weeks when it seemed like they were unbeatable and way too many weeks when it seemed like the Bad News Bears could sweep them in a four game series – Hell I’d even wager money that Rudi Stein could strike out David Wright on three pitches. Yes we have seen some dramatic moments such as the twenty inning game against the St Louis Cardinals back in May or the one hitters by Jon Niese, R.A Dickey and Johan Santana. And we have seen some of the worst baseball played since … well … last summer , such as the Hall of Fame game against the Diamondbacks or when the Phillies roughed up Mike Pelfrey on back to back days.
But there have been many surprises too.Did anybody think that R.A Dickey was going to end up being the backbone to this pitching staff ? Could anyone have foreseen Jason Bay totally falling off the cliff with his homerun output this season? Did anyone think we would have a full fledged youth movement by September ? I guess that the few things that shouldn’t surprise us is that Ollie Perez is still on the team, we are fighting for third place and that Jerry Manuel should be out of a job come October fourth.
” The biggest surprise of the season ?”
And with that said…. HERE COMES THE INFAMY !!!!!
Celebrating birthdays are:
First base man from the ’00 National League Championship team, Todd Zeile is 45 (1965) . Many readers know that I was not happy when the Mets signed him back in ’00 ( I preferred re-signing Olerud ), But Todd did play well that season for the Mets.
The ace of the ’00 staff, Mike Hampton is 38 (1972)I know many Mets fans still harbor resentment at him for bolting for the money and the ” Colorado School Districts”, but I also blame Steve Phillips for not going all out to sign Hampton, who brought a fire to that ’00 team.
One of the many pitchers that we have imported over the years, Kaz Ishii is 37 (1973) .
Sadly on this date, original Met, Richie Ashburn passed away (1997) Richie was the first Met ever to play in a All Star Game.
New York Mets purchased reserve outfielder, Jim Gosger from the Pittsburgh Pirates on September 9, 1969.
New York Mets released outfielder, Darren Reed on September 9, 1993.
And Mo Vaughn has decided to sue both the Mets and Modells Sporting Goods for their use of the term The ” Mo Zone” at Citi Field. He said that the true ” Mo Zone ” is his refrigerator !!!
And dont forget – there are only 22 more games until Jerry Manuel gets the axe !!!
83 comments
saltygary
9/9/2010-8:29am at 8:29 am (UTC -4)
At the end of the season TRD should pull the post when Dickey was signed. It was almost as bad as GMJ day.
rustyjr
9/9/2010-8:38am at 8:38 am (UTC -4)
Sad thing is I believe I broke that news and I ripped the dickey signing
njstuckintx
9/9/2010-8:52am at 8:52 am (UTC -4)
you ripped a dickey. tsk. tsk.
metsfan4decades
9/9/2010-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
I don’t remember what I thought about the Dickey signing. I’m guessing if I gave it any thought it was along the lines of what’s the big deal? We need depth and the minor leagues need pitchers too…..
Ceetar
9/9/2010-9:04am at 9:04 am (UTC -4)
Here’s one of the Metsblog posts about his signing:
http://www.metsblog.com/2009/12/22/news-mets-close-to-deal-with-ra-dickey/#comments
stickguy
9/9/2010-10:09am at 10:09 am (UTC -4)
some funny stuff in there.
you even managed to get in a nice dig at Warthen.
I think I noticed 1 or 2 people that were rational enough to realize it was a low $ MiL signing, not the end of the world.
but mostly Dickey jocks, Dick Pole jokes, and ragging on Omar. Pertty much the usual!
njstuckintx
9/9/2010-9:22am at 9:22 am (UTC -4)
You have to figure with all the attempts to catch lightning in a bottle, you would figure eventually one of them would pay off, right?
Prismo
9/9/2010-9:52am at 9:52 am (UTC -4)
For TRS:
Beltran said he could not attend the hospital gathering yesterday because he had a meeting with his own charitable organization, which builds schools in Puerto Rico. Beltran said he would visit VA hospitals in the off-season.
The Mets shunned Beltran as did TRS, and this is why you ALWAYS get the full story before jumping to conclusions. And I’m sorry, but using qualifiers such as “IF Beltran didn’t have a good excuse, he’s a scumbag” is still defamation of character. What’s the rush to beat someone down before getting all the facts?
njstuckintx
9/9/2010-9:57am at 9:57 am (UTC -4)
Website Hits.
Prismo
9/9/2010-10:03am at 10:03 am (UTC -4)
Headline if Beltran went to hospital instead:
“Beltran Ditches Own Charity’s Meeting to Hang Out with Teammates”
stickguy
9/9/2010-10:03am at 10:03 am (UTC -4)
Oooh, burn!
I at least feel vindicated arguing yesterday that while I could see it being a statement from ollie and slappy, I just did not see it that way from Beltran (not that I know any of them personally of course).
qand frankly, I don’t think Ollie should have gone. It was a team unity event, and since (to use your word, are you Amish?) the team has been effectively “shunning” Ollie most of the summer, why should he feel the need to attend?
slappy just needs to go.
kingman 26
9/9/2010-10:19am at 10:19 am (UTC -4)
Once again, totally agree, and the comments all over Met sites yesterday were the usual mix of fake patriotism, revolting racism, and just plain idiocy.
Beltran said he visited hospitals last offseason with the Wilpons, but hey, that’s not good enough for the Fox News loudmouth fake patriot crowd.
Disgusting indeed was what yesterday’s reaction to Beltran was. The guy has given away more to charity than all of his detractors probably will make in their lifetimes.
stickguy
9/9/2010-10:25am at 10:25 am (UTC -4)
I blame the whole situation on Jerry.
and maybe Hojo.
kingman 26
9/9/2010-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
LOL!
I agree!
But can we just give a LITTLE of the blame to Jacobs and Matthews? I mean, they weren’t there either, were they??
njstuckintx
9/9/2010-10:46am at 10:46 am (UTC -4)
Don’t forget Cat!
I really hope they save their greenbacks for 1 decent mid rotation guy and don’t go blowing a mil here, a mil there on washed up bench guys, the Greens and Escobar’s of the world and AAA depth. Spending the money on the Cats and Jacobs and Matthews just hurts.
TRS86
9/9/2010-10:58am at 10:58 am (UTC -4)
Again to lump any of the posters in here into that category is a complete joke. My stance had nothing to do with politics and was from a team/teammate perspective as I mentioned yesterday.
GravediggerHebner
9/9/2010-11:59am at 11:59 am (UTC -4)
From a team building perspective it would have been nice if you’d joined our fantasy football league but I respect you’re right to decline like almost all of the “I don’t care about the team” people did.
That’s right, I’m looking at everyone not named SaltyGary, DirtySanchez & Ceetar!
TRS86
9/9/2010-12:40pm at 12:40 pm (UTC -4)
That however, has nothing to do with a team function. While some teammates may chose to go to a bar after a game that does not imply that all should. The Fantasy league is not a team function. I am not sure a bunch of Mets players just sat around and said hey lets go see some war vets.
GravediggerHebner
9/9/2010-1:01pm at 1:01 pm (UTC -4)
One person’s team function is another’s team building.
All I know is you dropped the ball and TRDMB morale is at an all time low. I’m referring of course to the Fantasy Football Fiasco.
For shame, captain, for shame. I can’t even look you in the eye which I guess isn’t so bad since we’ve never met but you get the point. Tsk tsk.
Booooooo! Hisssssssss!
TRS86
9/9/2010-1:07pm at 1:07 pm (UTC -4)
I guess you could draw comparisons but I just can’t go there. I did not see the team owner requesting the authors to sign up for said league. Team building can be both a team function and just a few guys hanging out. A team function is one that is either required or highly (implied required) suggested by the higher ups in the organization. Example some of my players have dinner at someone’s house before the game, that is team building. My players attend non-required (required) workouts 2 days a week.
GravediggerHebner
9/9/2010-1:17pm at 1:17 pm (UTC -4)
I’m simply trying to inject some humor into what appears to be a rather tense subject but from what I can gather it’s not working so I’m just going to stop now.
TRS86
9/9/2010-2:00pm at 2:00 pm (UTC -4)
You are right. It was not you but others you seemed to call me out today in my opinion unjustly and I was not prepared for that. I apologize. Back to our local programming.
TRS86
9/9/2010-10:56am at 10:56 am (UTC -4)
Thanks for that information. I feel ashamed. LOL. OK maybe not. Again, using qualifiers such as if is not defamation of character at all. Of course we do not have all of the facts and must make judgments based on the facts we had. Also, if you go back and look my stand point was from that of a teammate and a coach not as much saying he was a scumbag. I shunned Beltran, Perez and Castillo based on reports that they skipped the meeting and the team/teammates were furious. While we could wait until the full story comes out before jumping to conclusions that would make a blog very difficult to run. So while I apologize to Beltran for making the incorrect judgment I do not apologize for my stand based on the information available at the time.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Mr North Jersey
9/9/2010-11:00am at 11:00 am (UTC -4)
“While we could wait until the full story comes out before jumping to conclusions that would make a blog very difficult to run.”
Just wow.
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:09am at 11:09 am (UTC -4)
NJ I am guessing you don’t agree but when news comes out I feel we need to get that info to the reader asap. However, it’s up to the reader to make their judgments. I do not believe that anyone put any comments in the post itself that damned the players. What I say in the comment section is as a fan not as an author. I hope that you especially could determine the difference.
Mr North Jersey
9/9/2010-11:42am at 11:42 am (UTC -4)
I have no problem with the posting of the story. If you read it Grave simply posted what happened and wondered if there was a reason why said players didn’t go and went on to say stay tuned as the story develops.
As far as I am concerned that was excellent reporting. Grave never jumped to any conclusions in his post.
If your above comment was to say that the waiting for the full story 1st before reporting what transpired would make running the blog difficult then I totally agree.
I read it as you saying as a fan it is ok to jump to conclusions without waiting for the facts. Something I totally disagree with as most would I hope.
I may be alone on an island on this one but reading some of the comments yesterday on the blogosphere was very disappointing. I read your comments and respect your reasoning behind why you don’t approve what the 3 players did.
What bothers me was the comments of nationality being a cause or that somehow they were less patriotic for not going. Mind you while I am admittedly a fan of Beltran I can care less about Castillo or Ollie so this is not about fandon but about how society views these 3 men.
Jerry Manuel while a terrible manager is a smart man. He was quoted yesterday to say in response to how he felt I believe that said players didn’t go. Something to the effect that he doesn’t get involved in that because that is a man’s choice.
Again to wrap it up the reporting of a story I don’t have a prob with it was the jumping to conclusions that somehow they were less patriotic for not doing so.
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:47am at 11:47 am (UTC -4)
I saw those type of comments and I am disappointed. However, I am not sure those type were the focus here. As fans we do often rush into judgments though and that is OK sometimes as well.
Mr North Jersey
9/9/2010-11:58am at 11:58 am (UTC -4)
Well as far as this blog being exempt from making what i will call misinformed remarks.It was not but in all honesty I am at a point where I wish this story never broke and the sooner it goes away the better in my opinion. When stuff likes this becomes a part of the conversation rather than baseball it takes all the fun of getting up and reading the blog.
TRS86
9/9/2010-12:38pm at 12:38 pm (UTC -4)
Again, without going back and looking into those remarks most of them focused on the effect on the team or disrespect of the team more than they did on an issue of patriotism or race.
kingman 26
9/9/2010-12:45pm at 12:45 pm (UTC -4)
I am totally with you Mr N.
The comments at Metsblog and the Ledger were revolting and idiotic.
I can only imagine what Mets.com and other places were like.
TRS86
9/9/2010-12:57pm at 12:57 pm (UTC -4)
I think for the most part that is still what separates this blog from others. There are exceptions to every rule.
kingman 26
9/9/2010-1:12pm at 1:12 pm (UTC -4)
TRS, I wholeheartedly agree with this.
This place–as usual–was a relative sea of rational calm compared to the reactions elsewhere, which were truly nauseating.
njstuckintx
9/9/2010-11:09am at 11:09 am (UTC -4)
Fortunately/Unfortunately, TRS is right. And most unfortunately, this embodies most that is wrong in the current media market of blog-nazi’s/twitter freaks/all day news/sports networks. Better to throw stuff out there that might be correct and be wrong than to not throw it out there and miss the story.
I know that I can be reactionary, but I do try to wait on the castration/beheading/burn at the stake type reactions to people when things like this come out. Or on anything steve philiips/jon heyman/buster olney may spew forth from their blowholes.
I still think Castillo’s short leg not being able to push all the way down on the accelerator was his reason for not showing up.
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:17am at 11:17 am (UTC -4)
Again I think there is a large difference in what we post and what we say in the comment section. Our post on news like that usually include just the facts and then it’s up to the readers/fans to read and react. If they want to blow it off as a non-story, wait on more facts or react hastily that is their right.
kingman 26
9/9/2010-10:21am at 10:21 am (UTC -4)
LOVE the Rudi Stein reference!
Hahaha….Amanda Whurlitzer would have given him the golden sombrero, even without her spitter and her curve breaking 2 1/2 feet.
metsfan4decades
9/9/2010-10:46am at 10:46 am (UTC -4)
I too didn’t want to be quick to condemn those that didn’t attend the Walter Reed event. Word is it was not ‘mandatory’ but some teammates thought that shouldn’t matter – all should attend (see Wright’s comments).
Beltran seemed visibly upset that someone was trying to make this an issue (and he can thank Ruben for that, IMO).
Castillo: jeeze…no one LIKES to see pain and suffering – just no one LIKES to go to funerals. It’s about respect where respect is due.
Perez: His comments just strike me as direction from Boras who instructed him to not comment on anything not baseball as it relates to him and even then so really temper his words. I could be wrong though.
fongy2
9/9/2010-10:56am at 10:56 am (UTC -4)
Bel-tron should have just pulled the “I don’t speak/understand
english well” Bit and the media would have left him alone…..
Although its not as easy without bodyguard Delgado not around
anymore.
rustyjr
9/9/2010-11:07am at 11:07 am (UTC -4)
I spoke to Ruben via twitter yesterday and he told me that’ve was at first not going to mention it but when he saw other reporters had mentioned it that’s when he ran the story
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
Wow!…He sounds like a real pro! $
rustyjr
9/9/2010-11:14am at 11:14 am (UTC -4)
Here’s exactly what he said to me I was going to let it go without mentioning, then a couple of newspapers reported it, so figured I’d acknowledge it too
fongy2
9/9/2010-10:54am at 10:54 am (UTC -4)
And so in the 21st century with all our modern technology etc,several
days AFTER the fact, Bel-Tron finds what he(his agent) thinks sounds
like a legit excuse. Okay!…And Brock, ya really need to stop with the
one-sided politics…It sounds very Creepy-Olbermann like.
It’s amazing to me how those who claim to be liberal have absolutely
no tolerance for any other view including those who may not even
disagree BUT don’t tow the militant line…And therefore must be destroyed!…Hardly the textbook definition of liberal.
For Rusty, while it’s nice to want to con’t to beat up on Phillips,
The Hampton Non-Signing was in EVERY way the best move!
I too was pissed we didnt re-sign him BUT The Rox blew everyone out of the water, Yankees style with THAT contract…AND in the end got
almost nothing out of the signing, setting THAT franchise back years.
Little Stevie actually lucked out there. As did we!
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:00am at 11:00 am (UTC -4)
Agreed.
kingman 26
9/9/2010-11:04am at 11:04 am (UTC -4)
I am NOT liberal.
I understand that both sides are whacked.
I am sick to death of fake armchair patriotism, which means nothing, and is all that this Beltran nonsense is about.
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:11am at 11:11 am (UTC -4)
Not true. Most of the comments on this site had to do with it’s effects on team/teammates.
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:14am at 11:14 am (UTC -4)
One man’s opinion….But always keep in mind, you may be
wrong. Many with an anti-Beltran,Ollie&Luis take on this
aren’t simply “armchair patriots” and in fact feel the patriotism
angle to this story is pretty far down on the list of reasons they should have went….It’s more that on just about every level it’s the right thing to do (going, that is).
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:20am at 11:20 am (UTC -4)
Agreed. The patriotism angle is not my approach at all. My thoughts were it was a team function and they needed to be there. Not being there was disrespectful to their teammates. Now again perhaps they had an excuse, however that excuse was not made known to their teammates or owners.
kingman 26
9/9/2010-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
And Fong, maybe you don’t appreciate my political comments, and I don’t appreciate what you are saying here at all.
Stop watching Beck AND Olbermann. They are both revolting and out for nothing more than money and fame.
I just hate being called a “liberal” just because I am intelligent and open-minded enough to see that both sides are hopelessly corrupt.
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:12am at 11:12 am (UTC -4)
However are you open-minded enough to be able to accept that some feel that what they say is correct and that also is their right?
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:15am at 11:15 am (UTC -4)
Bingo!
kingman 26
9/9/2010-11:31am at 11:31 am (UTC -4)
Absolutely.
But some things are facts and some are opinions.
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:32am at 11:32 am (UTC -4)
Right but the lines of those are often very gray.
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:44am at 11:44 am (UTC -4)
i.e. Like The JFK assasination
….Just sayin’………
rustyjr
9/9/2010-11:15am at 11:15 am (UTC -4)
Comment…
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:18am at 11:18 am (UTC -4)
LOL
njstuckintx
9/9/2010-11:18am at 11:18 am (UTC -4)
Can we talk about Gary Matthews Jr. or maybe the Seaver or Nolan Ryan trades? Those seem to be less volatile subjects…
rustyjr
9/9/2010-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
Hey I was trying to get peoples opinions on who or what the biggest surprise for the mets is
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:24am at 11:24 am (UTC -4)
Dickey, no doubt….
njstuckintx
9/9/2010-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
ok, i can roll with that.
3 biggest surprises, in a good way:
#1. RA Dickey – His contributions and post game interviews have been nothing short of amazing, considering what was expected of him (which was basically nothing)
#2. Pagan – Was pretty much the offensive MVP of this team
#3. Niese – I figured back of the rotation type for him. Proved to me he can be a #2 in the not too distant future.
4 biggest surprises, in a bad way:
#1. Ollie. I didn’t think he would be great, but to be this bad/shunned, it’s surreal.
#2. Bay. Even if he just stuck to slightly below his norms, this team would have won 6-10 more games, I’m convinced of it
#3. The BullPen. I thought the bullpen would work out to be OK, but man, that thing fell apart and quick.
#4. The offense overall. I figured the offense would help to carry shaky pitching, not the other way around.
kingman 26
9/9/2010-11:33am at 11:33 am (UTC -4)
1–Jason Bay’s suckitude without question.
2–Dickey–Never in a million years did I expect Dickey to be this good.
3–Ollie—Also never could have imagined Ollie being this useless and so incredibly selfish.
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:41am at 11:41 am (UTC -4)
On the negative, yes Bay was #1….Awful! Although TRS might
still believe hes just streaky. Ollie a close 2nd…Only b/c we
already knew he mostly sucked.
And no guilt over Dickey, like The Pods, no one, I mean NO ONE thought he’d be half this good.
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:44am at 11:44 am (UTC -4)
No doubt a disappointing year. I refuse to believe he suddenly sucks though.
njstuckintx
9/9/2010-11:48am at 11:48 am (UTC -4)
I agree. I can’t believe Bay went from what he was to being what he is now as nothing more than an anomaly.
metsfan4decades
9/9/2010-11:38am at 11:38 am (UTC -4)
Oops, sorry Rusty.
For me #1 is the overall disappointing season/finish. I thought we’d compete down to the wire.
#2 is RA Dickey.
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:42am at 11:42 am (UTC -4)
Ahh…Ever the eternal optimist…
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
Back to baseball….I again ask you guys and dolls….How the heck are
The Padres doing what they’re doing??…And not just the simple answer…Pitching. A 38Million dollar payroll, one everyday player who’d start on most good teams, a fairly inexperienced Mgr and GM, only a
couple of players who’d be described as blue-chip young possible
stars in the making….And a bunch of scrubs and career back-ups.
HOW is this team been all year in 1st and for most of the season had
the best record in the NL????
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:31am at 11:31 am (UTC -4)
It has been incredible but I can’t help but think they would not be making the playoffs if they were in the NL East.
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:37am at 11:37 am (UTC -4)
Agreed. I also have the feeling they’re the type team like The
Mariners earlier this decade(don’t remember the year) THAT
will be a quick out once the playoffs start.
stickguy
9/9/2010-12:07pm at 12:07 pm (UTC -4)
if they even make the playoffs at this point. No gaurantee there
njstuckintx
9/9/2010-11:36am at 11:36 am (UTC -4)
Helps having a rookie in Latos pitch better than our Ace in Santana! That guy is the real deal.
metsfan4decades
9/9/2010-11:42am at 11:42 am (UTC -4)
I really don’t know.
I too believe it’s partly the division they’re in.
If you look at that Mets ’69 team, they did it practically all with stellar pitching as well. Only one guy even hit .300 that year. Got contributions from all and a Little Bit of Luck (i.e.
metsfan4decades
9/9/2010-11:43am at 11:43 am (UTC -4)
Dang…my comment got cut off, for whatever reason.
Was going to mention a couple of plays and ump calls that went our way during the WS in particular.
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:47am at 11:47 am (UTC -4)
Agreed…BUT for all Baltimore’s crying over the years,
like with SuperBowl 3, Baltimore went pretty quietly.
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
Understood BUT it was a slightly diff game then.
Almost all Pitching was good…At least by today’s standards.
TRS86
9/9/2010-11:48am at 11:48 am (UTC -4)
While that was true for over a decade I am not sure it is the case this year. This year seems to be the return of the pitcher.
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
oh, no doubt….good thing ‘roids didnt have THAT much of
an effect $….BUT still it’s not like the Pitching of the late 60′s.
metsfan4decades
9/9/2010-12:14pm at 12:14 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll agree with that. But our pitching that year, in that season, seriously quieted those Oriole bats.
And really…the pitching is what allowed us to go from like 10 games out mid Aug to over taking the Cubs and even getting to the post season.
GravediggerHebner
9/9/2010-12:05pm at 12:05 pm (UTC -4)
The Padres, who have a ballpark eerily similar to Citi Field, actually built a roster (40-man, not just 25) that suits their ballpark to a T. Throw in a solid manager and coaching staff that know how to utilize that roster in both the small and big pictures and you get the 2010 Padres.
The Mets could learn a lot from the 2010 San Diego Padres.
metsfan4decades
9/9/2010-12:13pm at 12:13 pm (UTC -4)
Well, back on Opening Day…I had no reason to believe:
- Beltran wouldn’t be back until mid season
- Bay would woefully under perform
- Reyes would be dealing with mid season injuries
- The offense as a whole would be almost non existent
I did have big questions marks on the starting rotation – especially MOP. 2/3s of that was awful – didn’t even factor in – but strangely enough our SP has been the least of the problems.
Here’s my mantra from here on out:
Omar must go.
stickguy
9/9/2010-12:19pm at 12:19 pm (UTC -4)
MF, I am pretty sure that your first 3 bullets explain the 4th one.
If Reyes had not had the thyroid, and started out normally, and Bay was just average (for him) and Beltran was able to come back by late April and play like he did last septrember, then most likely, the Mets are playing a huge series this weekend.
metsfan4decades
9/9/2010-12:33pm at 12:33 pm (UTC -4)
Well…now that you put it that way, it does make sense. Good point.
Of course, it didn’t help having Jacobs as our opening day 1st baseman and Jerry playing GMJ as our starting CF instead of Pagan.
GravediggerHebner
9/9/2010-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
Rusty I wanted Olerud back too but he wanted to go to Seattle. At least he didn’t (to the best of my knowledge) suggest it was because of their school system. He was from that area and wanted to go home. Zeile was a useful replacement.
fongy2
9/9/2010-11:58am at 11:58 am (UTC -4)
Agreed.
stickguy
9/9/2010-12:17pm at 12:17 pm (UTC -4)
lupica decided to pour gas ont he fire of the 3 maigos scandel, pretty much in his own hyperbolic style. I beleive he went a tad overboard, stretching it to 2 pages, but he is a yeankee shill, so hard to take him seriously ever.
especially since he has to turn off th ecomments section to any of his columns.