After hearing the reports that KRod violated a restraining order by sending dozens of text messages to his girlfriend. Reportedly 56 text messages from Aug. 19 to Sept 7 apologizing and urging a resolution. I was kind of surprised when later some of the texts were released by the Queens County District Attorney’s office had texts that to me at least doesn’t fit the “apologizing and urging a resolution” purposes that were earlier described. Take a look.
- “Thank you for sinking me turning your back, take good care of my children … and now I see that your were with me because of the money to see that your family …”
- “Your parents are manipulating you like a marionette … You are already a woman who can make her own decisions”
- “Daian, I understand that perhaps I made a mistake, the biggest mistake of my life for doing what I did but I love you”
- “Things like this should not be done especially when your parents have what have because of me, even clothes.”
OK so these were the 4 that stood out to me so I will address them 1 at a time.
1. Call me crazy but I don’t think telling her she was in it for the money will help win her over.
2. Telling her she is being used as a puppet by her parents one of which he allegedly pummeled somehow just doesn’t seem right.
3. Saying you “perhaps” made a mistake doesn’t sound too apologetic to me.
4. Throwing in the face of the woman you are trying to reconcile with the notion that her parents wouldn’t have nothing if it weren’t for him while it may be true I don’t know many people that like people throwing things they did for them in their face.
If your trying to salvage a relationship with someone one of many things I would recommend is to simply say I am sorry till your blue in the face. But saying you might be sorry or calling the person a Gold Digger or throwing in their face the things you have given them in my opinion I would not recommend.
38 comments
njstuckintx
9/14/2010-1:11pm at 1:11 pm (UTC -4)
I wonder if she responded on any of these and what it was she said. Also, did she ever say stop? Inquiring Minds want to know.
TRS86
9/14/2010-1:12pm at 1:12 pm (UTC -4)
Wow, wouldn’t you hate for your personal issues like this to be aired out in public. Yeah he brought it on himself but I wonder if he knew the world would be seeing these private messages between him and a wife that he clearly loves.
GravediggerHebner
9/14/2010-1:17pm at 1:17 pm (UTC -4)
I can’t answer for him but I can say that at some point over the last decade I realized that anything I ever type and push “send” may at some point come back to haunt me and I’ve tried to take a second before actually sending anything to ponder that.
Given some of the things I’ve typed this may be surprising but I long ago gave up my aspirations to run for political office or commit crimes that would result in my being the subject of media scrutiny.
Mr North Jersey
9/14/2010-1:18pm at 1:18 pm (UTC -4)
GravediggerHebner
9/14/2010-1:23pm at 1:23 pm (UTC -4)
They don’t call me “Gravedigger” for nuthin’!
metsfan4decades
9/14/2010-1:44pm at 1:44 pm (UTC -4)
Ha! The difference between you Grave and those in politics is you’re smart enough to know it’s very hard to play that game in a public eye. Others? Not so smart…hence many of our elected officials.
wannybackstra
9/14/2010-1:26pm at 1:26 pm (UTC -4)
Assuming he knew that he was violating the order of protection then she should have known they could become public.
Whether she should have been included within the order of protection is a different story. Nonetheless, she was and he should have known not to communicate with her.
Prismo
9/14/2010-1:33pm at 1:33 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed TRS.
GravediggerHebner
9/14/2010-1:14pm at 1:14 pm (UTC -4)
I haven’t bothered reading about this so maybe this question has been answered in the coverage of this story but the one thing I wonder is: did KRod’s legal counsel communicate to him that text messages were a violation of the restraining order (or whatever)? If they did, he’s a fool. If they didn’t, bad bad job on their part.
Ceetar
9/14/2010-1:44pm at 1:44 pm (UTC -4)
The “I may get in trouble for this but..” indicates that he did. (was one of the texts)
He’s got impulse-control issues. But it’s his freaking wife. He’s used to talking to her, and loves her and all that. blinds him. These things are always a messy situation and I don’t think text messages should be in violation, particularly if the woman didn’t go through the proper channels to block the number, etc.
Good job by the wife/father for taking it and running to the authorities though. It’s all part of the plan to manipulate and get as much out of him as they can.
He should wake up and realize it’s over, cancel the phone lines, sell the house they’re living in, etc.
wannybackstra
9/14/2010-2:26pm at 2:26 pm (UTC -4)
the wife should have to go through steps to ensure that he doesn’t violate an order requiring him not to contact or communicate with her?
text messages shouldn’t be included? can’t one be harassed via text message or e-mail?
c’mon. this is ridiculous.
TRS86
9/14/2010-2:29pm at 2:29 pm (UTC -4)
true but how hard is it to block a number from texting you?
wannybackstra
9/14/2010-2:31pm at 2:31 pm (UTC -4)
i have no idea. but why should she have to? why is the victim the guilty party here (again, the issue as to whether she should have been protected in this order may be arguable but none of us know all the facts)? he was directed not to contact her or to communicate with her. that’s the bottom line.
TRS86
9/14/2010-2:35pm at 2:35 pm (UTC -4)
True, can’t seem to call her a victim though. I don’t know enough about the situation. Again, I wish this was not being played out in front of millions. Looks like an everyday pre-divorce family issue to me. I can’t think that in the US these types of cases are uncommon just uncommon to be played out in NY like this.
wannybackstra
9/14/2010-2:43pm at 2:43 pm (UTC -4)
the fact that he has celebrity status makes it all the more stupid of him to be acting like an ass. he knows full well that whatever stupid act he commits will be publicized.
and even the non-celebrity is subject to contempt for violating court orders. guys are put in jail every day for doing stuff like this.
Ceetar
9/14/2010-2:42pm at 2:42 pm (UTC -4)
How is she the victim?
Just because I’m raising issues with it all, doesn’t mean I’m excusing what he does.
He violated it, but my point is I hardly consider a one-way non-facetoface contact harassment. In my opinion it has to be persistent for it to be harassment. Not one small time period. It still violates it for sure, but my point is she didn’t seem to say ‘no’, block the number or tell him to stop. And it doesn’t sound like he’s been doing it for days or weeks either and she just couldn’t avoid it.
TRS86
9/14/2010-2:45pm at 2:45 pm (UTC -4)
Well 60 text in a month is about 2 times a day.
wannybackstra
9/14/2010-2:46pm at 2:46 pm (UTC -4)
um 50+ messages in 3 weeks… not persistent?
and she’s the victim because the court had apparently determined that she required protection from him too. it’s that simple.
do your apologist efforts really stretch so far as to try to defend the Mets players for the criminal acts?
TRS86
9/14/2010-2:50pm at 2:50 pm (UTC -4)
Dang what is it with everyone getting personal today?
LOL
As for her being a victim you are right, the court determined her one regardless of how most likely faulty that was. Again did Krod know that he could not text her? I have no idea. Was Krod so much in love that he thought that regardless of legal or illegal he could convince her to drop the charges?
All I know is that to me this is being played out on the wrong stage and is being blown way out of proportion. Mostly because we have nothing else to talk about. The guy punched his father-in-law and sent some illegal text. Hardly something that should cost him 15M or more.
Ceetar
9/14/2010-5:28pm at 5:28 pm (UTC -4)
didn’t see the in 3 weeks thing, but that’s not particularly persistent, no. twice a day she looks at her phone “Oh, my husband wants to work things out and see his kids” and puts it down.
Mr North Jersey
9/14/2010-2:50pm at 2:50 pm (UTC -4)
I’m sure KRod’s lawyer will be all over it. Probably using much of the same argument you are using right now Ceet.
I think we are getting what the legal issue and the common sense issue is between him texting her or not.
Legally I think by the sounds of it he has no leg to stand on but common sense says these were the attempts of a man that some might say is going through some type of emotional distress and is desperate to make things right almost to his detriment.
That’s just my 2 cents.
TRS86
9/14/2010-2:52pm at 2:52 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed.
wannybackstra
9/14/2010-2:33pm at 2:33 pm (UTC -4)
if your car is stolen is it a defense that you left the locks open?
TRS86
9/14/2010-2:36pm at 2:36 pm (UTC -4)
Nope, but a case also could be made that you have no common sense.
Mr North Jersey
9/14/2010-2:36pm at 2:36 pm (UTC -4)
You mean it’s not my fault if I leave my car running with the windows and door open at 2:00 am in the morning while I go in to use the bathroom at McDonalds?
TRS86
9/14/2010-2:39pm at 2:39 pm (UTC -4)
Classic example of 2 wrongs. One idiot and one criminal.
wannybackstra
9/14/2010-2:41pm at 2:41 pm (UTC -4)
that’s not the same thing.
anyway, the person who took your car will still be prosecuted for stealing it. and rightfully so.
TRS86
9/14/2010-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
If only stupidity was a crime.
Mr North Jersey
9/14/2010-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
For the record I was merely trying to apply some humor to your above comment about your car being stolen.
wannybackstra
9/14/2010-2:47pm at 2:47 pm (UTC -4)
there’s nothing funny about a mcdonald’s bathroom!
stickguy
9/14/2010-1:17pm at 1:17 pm (UTC -4)
go with the vague apology without saying what you are actually sorry for.
hey, it can work if yo uare getting mailed for PEDS!
metsfan4decades
9/14/2010-1:42pm at 1:42 pm (UTC -4)
Krod may be rich but that doesn’t mean he’s smart.
I saw a program on brain development not too long ago that talked about the frontal lobe being the last to fully develop. Apparently, this is the part of the brain that processes reasoning, deduction, actions have consequences, that type of thing. Apparently, they’ve found that that part is not fully developed until around 18. One of the reasons for the distinction of minors vs. adults and age appropriate consequences for poor behavior.
There’s no substitute for life experience. Some still don’t get it at 20, 25, 30 and beyond. Even though brains are fully developed by about 18, emotional development sometimes lags behind. Courts are full of these types of people.
I can’t imagine what it’s like to be on a center stage at a young age and making millions just a bit beyond that. Couple that with the inability to control your emotions and not a lick of common sense and well…you probably have what you’ve got here with Krod.
Just my two cents….
Ceetar
9/14/2010-1:50pm at 1:50 pm (UTC -4)
I hate that though. And without getting into complex arguments about things like consent and rape and the like, every case is different.
The mind’s a tricky thing though, I can’t quite conceptually grasp the idea of ‘consequences and deduction’ not being..developed. I feel like I always grasped that. at least, from a young age. Was my lobe developed at 17? does that mean I should’ve been able to ‘reason like an adult’? what about a guy that doesn’t develop that lope properly until 20? Should they remain a minor? They don’t legally, and “My brain made me do it” flies about as well as “the booze made me do it” It’s a sticky situation regardless. Frankie’s not smart, no, he’s got impulse control issues and is violent, but he’s hardly the only culprit here, and he _is_ trying to do right.
GravediggerHebner
9/14/2010-1:54pm at 1:54 pm (UTC -4)
There are some circumstances in which “trying to do right” is counterproductive and actually worse than doing nothing at all. This may be one of those.
metsfan4decades
9/14/2010-1:59pm at 1:59 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, I don’t really know. I just thought the program interesting in regards to that’s why teenagers seem to do so many dumb things (for example, get pregnant when they’re not ready even though birth control is so readily available).
I’m paraphrasing, of course….and don’t really remember all the technical medical jargon that went with it but I do remember the concept of being able to fully appreciate the consequences of one’s action before a certain age.
Back in my day, we just called that ‘maturity’…..
njstuckintx
9/14/2010-1:59pm at 1:59 pm (UTC -4)
Taking out the murky waters of he loves her/needs her/should have or shouldn’t have been contacting her/the development of his lobes/etc. etc., I really think we are seeing the voiding of a contract unfold before our eyes.
Now get some SP with that extra payroll flexibility!
metsfan4decades
9/14/2010-2:01pm at 2:01 pm (UTC -4)
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If the Mets win this one, I think it’s going to set some precedent and you watch what other clubs do to try and get out of what they later might deem a bad contract.
stickguy
9/14/2010-2:45pm at 2:45 pm (UTC -4)
and one of the reasons (another being, well, they can!) that they union will fight this tooth and nail. and the union rarely looses.