Here is an excerpt from Bob Klapisch’s article in the Record today.
“Jeff Wilpon is said to want to move aggressively in the search for a new executive. Sources say he has “several” candidates in mind who are powerful and experienced enough to re-write the Mets’ business plan. Fred Wilpon, however, has stronger ties to Minaya, and has yet to sign off on a radical change of direction.”
If true one can wonder I suppose if Wilpon Sr is maybe believing that Wilpon Jr. may not know what is best for organization. Stay tuned….
35 comments
metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-12:45pm at 12:45 pm (UTC -4)
‘If true one can wonder I suppose if Wilpon Sr is maybe believing that Wilpon Jr. may not know what is best for organization.’
Maybe….but Wilpon Sr. leaning towards keeping Omar as GM doesn’t say alot about his mindset either.
I don’t care if they fire Omar or not. But we need a new GM. Omar had his shot as ‘architect’. No matter what good things he’s done, one playoff team in the 5 years he’s been here is not enough. Not when he had the luxury of the payroll he had to work with.
TRS86
10/1/2010-12:48pm at 12:48 pm (UTC -4)
Question is could Fred think the problem lies in his son and not Omar?
stickguy
10/1/2010-1:07pm at 1:07 pm (UTC -4)
then “fire” them both. Reassign Omar (if he wants the job, since he does not have to take it), and “promote” Jeffy to some other role in sterlings empire.
TRS86
10/1/2010-1:13pm at 1:13 pm (UTC -4)
Oh I agree. Just trying to provide some other logical scenarios into what is being said.
njstuckintx
10/1/2010-12:51pm at 12:51 pm (UTC -4)
“Maybe….but Wilpon Sr. leaning towards keeping Omar as GM doesn’t say alot about his mindset either.”
Well, it all depends on how many of Omar’s moves were “Jeff” moves and Fred realizes that. Even so, Omar needs to go regardless.
Mr North Jersey
10/1/2010-12:54pm at 12:54 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed 4D about the leaning towards Minaya. I just find it interesting that it seems if true that Jeff has a clear idea of what he wants to do but his dad who earlier said his son was doing a fine job (which one would expect a dad to say) seems to not want to allow his son yet to go ahead with his desired ideas.
njstuckintx
10/1/2010-12:46pm at 12:46 pm (UTC -4)
Well, hopefully Sr. comes to his senses and “re-assigns” little Jeffy.
metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-1:02pm at 1:02 pm (UTC -4)
SI_JonHeyman: as assumed for weeks, gm omar minaya and manager jerry manuel will not return in those roles for #mets. story on si.com soon.
Soon? How soon? Like in the next couple of hours or are we talking about once the season ends?
Sounds like a ploy to just get all to keep checking si.com for the next 72 hours….
TRS86
10/1/2010-1:04pm at 1:04 pm (UTC -4)
As always. Guys jumping the gun like someone from the Mets has actually TOLD them what is going on.
wannybackstra
10/1/2010-2:13pm at 2:13 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe someone did. Lots of disgruntled employees speak off the record.
I’m not saying the Heymans of the world are always right, but I’m sure they talk to someone, and they are right sometimes.
But you’re being naive if you don’t think there are leaks in large organizations.
Mr North Jersey
10/1/2010-1:06pm at 1:06 pm (UTC -4)
The man knows how to generate buzz. Don’t just come out with a story 1st tell them a story is coming so their imagination can begin to speculate what it may contain and then drop it on them that it is much about what we already have heard in regards to the rumors.
- Media Hype
stickguy
10/1/2010-1:09pm at 1:09 pm (UTC -4)
isn’t that the Francesca method? keep talking about the big announcement at the end of the show, that turns out to be nothing?
TRS86
10/1/2010-1:10pm at 1:10 pm (UTC -4)
Yup, and this one is a no lose prophecy. IF the Mets do fire Omar and Jerry (which appears likely anyway) then YOU broke the story. IF they don’t then you get to write 1,000 articles on how the Mets FO is indecisive and does not have a clue what they are doing or want to do. Easy paycheck.
metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-1:13pm at 1:13 pm (UTC -4)
HAHAHA – Heyman is getting to be a pro at manipulating the latest media technology to draw attention to his ‘exclusive’ rumors and stories.
Mr North Jersey
10/1/2010-1:15pm at 1:15 pm (UTC -4)
U got it 4D.
In NY you have to learn to read between the lines or in this case tweets.
Mr North Jersey
10/1/2010-1:12pm at 1:12 pm (UTC -4)
Believe me that method has been around way before Minaya got to WFAN.
metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-1:11pm at 1:11 pm (UTC -4)
As much as I’m sad that the baseball season is soon coming to an end, I wish we could fast forward to Monday.
Mr North Jersey
10/1/2010-1:37pm at 1:37 pm (UTC -4)
Did you read Heyman’s article 4D?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/10/01/mets.minaya.manuel/index.html
The one thing I didn’t know if true was the following,
“Minaya is believed to have an option to leave the organization once he is removed as GM, but a couple people close to Minaya said he may consider another position within the organization if it suits him, though others suggest he may choose to leave.”
If Minaya has an option to go elsewhere can you see him going to another team as GM this off season?
TRS86
10/1/2010-1:47pm at 1:47 pm (UTC -4)
As GM no. However, it’s possible that he thinks he could be more successful as a scouting guy in a different organization. Other words a clean break.
What we don’t know is the truth about his contract and if it allows him to still get paid his entire contract if they demote him and he refuses. So basically he could be in an Ollie situation.
Mr North Jersey
10/1/2010-2:00pm at 2:00 pm (UTC -4)
I am looking forward to seeing what ownership does. Minaya being tops on the list of decisions to be made will be interesting indeed.
I wish Minaya the best if he does wind up leaving the organization as I do Jerry.
metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-2:24pm at 2:24 pm (UTC -4)
‘Mets higherups are concerned about ticket sales and seem to be considering high-profile people for both jobs.’
Maybe it’s just the way this was worded but to me, this epitomizes everything that’s wrong with this organization. No…don’t go out and get the best baseball-minded GM you can hire, get a high profile one that will bring fans back to the park – maybe.
Never mind the fact that a good GM will hopefully construct a good team which should lead to success, of which a by product will be fans to to the park. No…go the quick route to bring fans back.
Is it just me???? Sigh…
Mr North Jersey
10/1/2010-2:27pm at 2:27 pm (UTC -4)
You made a good observation 4D. Even though the article states that they are concerned with ticket sales the omission about the lack of winning doesn’t mean that they are more concerned with ticket sales but rather that that also is a concern.
stickguy
10/1/2010-2:07pm at 2:07 pm (UTC -4)
along with all the “jeffy is too involved” reports, weren’t there also a bunch ones indicating that Fred has stepped pretty much away from teh team recently?
oleosmirf
10/1/2010-2:17pm at 2:17 pm (UTC -4)
Omar staying on in a lesser role is more than fine by me. His ability to find good young Latin teenagers is unquestioned and he might be the best in the business at doing so.
stickguy
10/1/2010-2:21pm at 2:21 pm (UTC -4)
yeah, if he wants to stay on to go spend a couple years devoted to the latin (dominican) acadamies, and latine scouting, fine by me. He would not be around the FO itself much, so I doubt that would ause any friction with the new guy.
wannybackstra
10/1/2010-2:22pm at 2:22 pm (UTC -4)
Boy, that Sammy Sosa reputation goes a long way.
GravediggerHebner
10/1/2010-2:35pm at 2:35 pm (UTC -4)
One could say that if it weren’t for PEDs even the Sammy Sosa reputation wouldn’t exist.
Cut the cord(s) Mets. Clean break. Fresh start. Insert “new/different” cliche here.
oleosmirf
10/1/2010-2:48pm at 2:48 pm (UTC -4)
if Omar’s sole responsibility is traveling to the DR and Venezuela to recruit/scout then i don’t see how it can be a problem. This isn’t Isiah Thomas were talking about here.
GravediggerHebner
10/1/2010-2:49pm at 2:49 pm (UTC -4)
If they are truly undecided I find that kind of astounding. I mean what more information do they need to gather?
Someone asserted that the move to dismiss anyone will come “between Monday & Wednesday.” IMO the decision should already be made and it should be enacted Sunday immediately following the game. If they are in fact not being retained there is just zero reason to let them go home Sunday night, wondering, then have them in Monday morning to terminate them. I feel it’s actually more courteous and respectful to simply be at the stadium on Sunday, after the game have these guys come into the office, close the door and let them know while we all enjoy the twittering that occurs during the closed-door period.
Mr North Jersey
10/1/2010-2:56pm at 2:56 pm (UTC -4)
Good point.
TRS86
10/1/2010-4:10pm at 4:10 pm (UTC -4)
True, but who is to say those meetings with the GM and manager have not already occurred or will right after the game and Monday will be the press release?
stickguy
10/1/2010-4:28pm at 4:28 pm (UTC -4)
no one really knows. That’s why I am looking forward to Monday! Like unwrapping your presents on Christmas.
mostly, I want the axing made official, and the new pres/GM/whatever they are called (and I like the idea of a hart type Sr. guy, bringing in his own young hot shot GM to groom), so we can start seeing what the hell the plan is for the season.
and if they do get that kind of heaby hitter fresh blood, there really needs to be a serious plan, although IMO it will be a 2 year one:
do as much as possible for 2011, and plan ahead now for the major $ coming off payroll at the end of the year.
metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-4:28pm at 4:28 pm (UTC -4)
According to some tweet I read a little while ago, someone close to Minaya reported Omar hasn’t been told anything yet.
And did you see this?
DPLennonDPLennon: Reyes on Manuel, Minaya not returning: “I don’t even know if I’m going to be here next year.” For better or worse, he will be.
stickguy
10/1/2010-4:47pm at 4:47 pm (UTC -4)
technically, he is correct.
and I think it points out something about the players (especially at this point of a poor season). They don’t really care about this stuff, and (like many fans) just want it resolved so they can all move on.
That, and they are a hell of a lot more concerned about themselves than the Fo, or even the manager.
plus, why should they give a crap who the GM is? Not like they have any connection or real contact with Omar. The manager and the coaches at least have a daily impact on them.
GravediggerHebner
10/1/2010-8:56pm at 8:56 pm (UTC -4)
I see your point TRS but it seems as if those meetings have already occurred and Jon Heyman has reported on them and many other media outlets, including SNY, have latched onto them as fact.
Whether they’ve already been fired, or will be fired on Sunday right after the game, “saving” the announcement until Monday serves no positive purpose that I can see. As I believe and as I assume you have noticed, official press releases are often ignored because they come well after the action and that action becoming public knowledge.
Most free agent signings and trades we are aware of before the press release. If Omar & Jerry are fired on Sunday and the 1st I hear of it is in a press release Monday a lot of sports/news organizations and individuals have failed at their jobs.