My opinion is Beltran will still be here next year but the days are gone where he plays 150 games or batter.
Pagan can play center (considering he’s still here). Whoever the 4th OF is, here’s hoping he’s better than mediocre because I think he’ll get plenty of playing time.
might as well beat my “4 man OF rotation” horse 1 more time!
and really, the point of that is, you have a guy (Beltran) that probably needs to be treated like a catcher at this point, even if it means he plays 130-135 games in the field. PLus some quality DH time, and a few PH appearances.
Pagan seems to be OK now, but he wil be 30, so selective rest will also be a good thing. And Bay coming off injury, is also no spring chicken.
So, I think 4 “starting” OFs will all get plenty of PT (assuming, of course, the next manager has the clue that the current one is missing).
I just think it will be a disaster to go with the “big 3″ starting, and then pure BU types (GMjr, sullivan, reed, Endy over the last few years).
I know your love for Duda but to me I don’t see him getting enough AB’s to be on the MLB team to begin the year. I would rather have a true 4th OF that can play all 3 positions and let Evans take some corner time while Duda continues in AAA.
If he is good enough to deserve to be in the majors, then he should be.
And Pagan is the guy that fills all 3 OF spots. With all 4 guys getting plenty of PT.
I don’t want Duda sitting on the bench as a spare part, maybe 1 game a week 4th OF. That is not what this team needs.
Beltran can get his needed rest, pagan spotted against tough righties, and Bay can get enough time off too. 4th OF should be able to start at least 4 games per week, which should be plenty for a younger guy to not hurt his development.
Of course, if they do trade Beltran (not likely IMO, and not good unless they get more back than a little salary relief), then I would be fine with a Duda/evans platoon of some sort, although I still want to see Duda get time vs. LHP.
If he starts in AAA, not a huge deal. If he gets traded for something good, then I willl live with it (say as part of the deal for a garza-type SP). But not stuck into a carter size role.
To me I don’t see him getting 4 games a week. You also have to factor in that you will most likely have Evans on the team.
If Pagan is healthy, he does not need a rest. Bay when healthy does not need one game a week. Beltran maybe. To me I see at best 1-2 games per week and that is not enough for me.
In an ideal world the best 25 players make the team but sometimes options and playing time gets in the way.
also, this actually sounds relatively minor. Quite possibly, if the Mets were in the playoff chase, he would be playing this weekend, since there is not actual damage.
I also don’t believe Duda will make the team next season as there is no real place for him, either will Nick the Stick. I expect the Mets to go young next season and not really focus on making the playoffs.
Dickey, Pelfrey, Niese, Gee and hopefully Darvish will be our rotation next season. I would love for the Mets to trade Beltran to the Red Sox and somehow get Ellsbury in return but i doubt that’s possible.
Reyes, Ellsbury, Pagan, Wright, Davis, Bay, Thole, Tejada is good enough for me although i would have no problems keeping Beltran. While I’d love to see Hudson instead of Tejada, i have already conceded that Tejada will be our opening day 2B with Murphy possibly there as well. That lineup if used properly by an aggresive-minded manager (aka lots of SB and hit and run) can be enough if the rotation is good. Also i expect K-Rod to be gone as well…
Not sure I agree about Evans. He plays LF, 3rd and 1st. Heck, he even played CF in a game this week.
He’s a nice bat off the bench.
I think he gets a shot to make the club out of ST.
Considering they may be going young then why wouldn’t “Nick the stick” be a candidate for that Tatis role? He is out of options and would have to be traded or released.
Having a RH that can hit for some power and stand at multiple positions has to have some value when the price is league minimum.
In my opinion IF this is true a large part of what they do in the off-season may be determined by if they can get his contract to be non-guaranteed. If so you have freed up a substantial amount of money to pursue other needs.
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metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-11:35am at 11:35 am (UTC -4)
My opinion is Beltran will still be here next year but the days are gone where he plays 150 games or batter.
Pagan can play center (considering he’s still here). Whoever the 4th OF is, here’s hoping he’s better than mediocre because I think he’ll get plenty of playing time.
stickguy
10/1/2010-11:45am at 11:45 am (UTC -4)
might as well beat my “4 man OF rotation” horse 1 more time!
and really, the point of that is, you have a guy (Beltran) that probably needs to be treated like a catcher at this point, even if it means he plays 130-135 games in the field. PLus some quality DH time, and a few PH appearances.
Pagan seems to be OK now, but he wil be 30, so selective rest will also be a good thing. And Bay coming off injury, is also no spring chicken.
So, I think 4 “starting” OFs will all get plenty of PT (assuming, of course, the next manager has the clue that the current one is missing).
I just think it will be a disaster to go with the “big 3″ starting, and then pure BU types (GMjr, sullivan, reed, Endy over the last few years).
And of course, I still like Duda.
TRS86
10/1/2010-11:50am at 11:50 am (UTC -4)
I know your love for Duda but to me I don’t see him getting enough AB’s to be on the MLB team to begin the year. I would rather have a true 4th OF that can play all 3 positions and let Evans take some corner time while Duda continues in AAA.
stickguy
10/1/2010-11:55am at 11:55 am (UTC -4)
If he is good enough to deserve to be in the majors, then he should be.
And Pagan is the guy that fills all 3 OF spots. With all 4 guys getting plenty of PT.
I don’t want Duda sitting on the bench as a spare part, maybe 1 game a week 4th OF. That is not what this team needs.
Beltran can get his needed rest, pagan spotted against tough righties, and Bay can get enough time off too. 4th OF should be able to start at least 4 games per week, which should be plenty for a younger guy to not hurt his development.
Of course, if they do trade Beltran (not likely IMO, and not good unless they get more back than a little salary relief), then I would be fine with a Duda/evans platoon of some sort, although I still want to see Duda get time vs. LHP.
If he starts in AAA, not a huge deal. If he gets traded for something good, then I willl live with it (say as part of the deal for a garza-type SP). But not stuck into a carter size role.
TRS86
10/1/2010-12:25pm at 12:25 pm (UTC -4)
To me I don’t see him getting 4 games a week. You also have to factor in that you will most likely have Evans on the team.
If Pagan is healthy, he does not need a rest. Bay when healthy does not need one game a week. Beltran maybe. To me I see at best 1-2 games per week and that is not enough for me.
In an ideal world the best 25 players make the team but sometimes options and playing time gets in the way.
metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-12:35pm at 12:35 pm (UTC -4)
Jeeze, when did 30 become the new 50? LOL.
stickguy
10/1/2010-11:47am at 11:47 am (UTC -4)
also, this actually sounds relatively minor. Quite possibly, if the Mets were in the playoff chase, he would be playing this weekend, since there is not actual damage.
oleosmirf
10/1/2010-12:33pm at 12:33 pm (UTC -4)
I also don’t believe Duda will make the team next season as there is no real place for him, either will Nick the Stick. I expect the Mets to go young next season and not really focus on making the playoffs.
Dickey, Pelfrey, Niese, Gee and hopefully Darvish will be our rotation next season. I would love for the Mets to trade Beltran to the Red Sox and somehow get Ellsbury in return but i doubt that’s possible.
Reyes, Ellsbury, Pagan, Wright, Davis, Bay, Thole, Tejada is good enough for me although i would have no problems keeping Beltran. While I’d love to see Hudson instead of Tejada, i have already conceded that Tejada will be our opening day 2B with Murphy possibly there as well. That lineup if used properly by an aggresive-minded manager (aka lots of SB and hit and run) can be enough if the rotation is good. Also i expect K-Rod to be gone as well…
metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-12:37pm at 12:37 pm (UTC -4)
Not sure I agree about Evans. He plays LF, 3rd and 1st. Heck, he even played CF in a game this week.
He’s a nice bat off the bench.
I think he gets a shot to make the club out of ST.
TRS86
10/1/2010-12:37pm at 12:37 pm (UTC -4)
Considering they may be going young then why wouldn’t “Nick the stick” be a candidate for that Tatis role? He is out of options and would have to be traded or released.
Having a RH that can hit for some power and stand at multiple positions has to have some value when the price is league minimum.
oleosmirf
10/1/2010-1:08pm at 1:08 pm (UTC -4)
strikes out too much to be an important bat off the bench. i certainly wont complain if he’s in the Tatis role, i just think they will look elsewhere…
TRS86
10/1/2010-1:09pm at 1:09 pm (UTC -4)
I can’t see them spending money on that role.
Blanco, MI reserve, Murphy, Evans and other OF is what I see. Murphy and Evans would be paired for LH/RH pinch hit and super subs.
metsfan4decades
10/1/2010-12:38pm at 12:38 pm (UTC -4)
Also, according to Kevin Burkhardt there is zero % chance KRod will be pitching for the Mets next year.
TRS86
10/1/2010-12:41pm at 12:41 pm (UTC -4)
In my opinion IF this is true a large part of what they do in the off-season may be determined by if they can get his contract to be non-guaranteed. If so you have freed up a substantial amount of money to pursue other needs.
njstuckintx
10/1/2010-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
Though Burkhardt did mention that there was only a 50% chance of his prediction being correct.
TRS86
10/1/2010-1:08pm at 1:08 pm (UTC -4)
LOL. So there is a 50% chance that there is a 0% chance of Krod returning?
Thus Krod’s return percentage is 25%?