Really, what would anyone expect Sandy to say here? He just spent these last few weeks reiterating on most available outlets (paper, blogs, radio, telecons, etc.) what the Mets new philosophy will be going forward and trying to drive the point home to all. He’d look pretty foolish and lose all credibility if he said anything other than the type theme he did on this short interview.
Privately, anyone else wonder what his reaction was? Something along the lines of ‘you gotta be f’ing kidding me’ – maybe?
LOL…
I know that was my exact reaction. I just asked yesterday in one of our posts – before the Lee signing – if the Phillies were the Yankees of the NL east. I guess time will tell. They’ve got about 60MIL coming off the books next years as well. Can’t expect them to stand pat for very long anymore.
Yeah, for all their spending, they’ll have some cash coming off the books for sure.
Oleo has his plan all laid out next year, with re-signing Reyes and throwing money at Yu Darvish. I’ll have to look a little more, but I don’t think that there is much else out there. Competition is going to be fierce. Hopefully Reyes will do the hometown thing and want to stay in NY.
As for Sandy… Just keep staying the course. I do not want to start to see him wavering. Firm leadership is a good thing.
And I get the feeling we aren’t going to see another move (well, maybe 1 if we’re lucky as a Christmas gift) until 2011. That’s 2+ weeks of evaluating and hopefully enough time to focus efforts to getting 2 SPs and some RPs!
This pretty much sums up my sentiments on Reyes. He states there really is no good reason not to do it now, except if the Mets know something about Reyes recent thyroid issue that they’re sitting on:
Don’t listen to the naysayers who spout about Reyes’ “durability issues” and “questionable personality” and use those faux factors as evidence Reyes won’t be worth it, and/or won’t be highly coveted by other teams. First of all, shortstops with Reyes’ skills don’t grow on trees, and the ones that have them are locked up long-term. Secondly, even if Reyes has a so-so year — similar to his 2010, for example — there will be no shortage of suitors for his services. Heck, there could be a few teams from the NL East putting in bids, considering that the Nationals are suddenly big-time spenders and the similarly spendthrift Phillies will have Jimmy Rollins off the books. Outside the division, the Dodgers should have their ownership cleared up by then and can say goodbye to Rafael Furcal next winter; the Cubs have had internal discussions about eventually moving Starlin Castro to 2B, which would free up SS; the Reds would jump at a chance to upgrade from light-hitting Paul Janish (sorry, cuz); and the Giants could have an opening at short (and Barry Zito finally coming off the books). I didn’t even get into the AL teams yet, but you can guess that the Red Sox, Tigers, Angels, and White Sox would all be in play; there’s reason to believe the Mariners, Orioles, and Blue Jays could put in bids. Let’s not even discuss what happens if Derek Jeter continues to trend downward in ’11. Take a cursory look around — there aren’t many two-way shortstops in the game today.’
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I know some Met fans won’t agree but I do – and have – all along.
Yeah, stick and myself have been championing signing him to an extension. And if he hits FA, he’s gone. It’s going to be Cliff Lee-esque with the money they throw at him, as well as the years.
And to those teams, you can add Houston, most likely as they’ll have new ownership and money to spend.
Oh jeez, how awkward! I would be thrilled to have a Met call me, but there’s no way in heck a player (or anyone) could talk me into buying season tickets if I had already decided not to. That was just be soooooo awkward. “Uh…sorry Darryl….”
Darryl is one thing, but in a way this is almost the Mets emulating the ‘sleezy hardsell timeshare guy’ What, are you going to tell Jason Bay “No, sorry, I think you guys are going to suck this year.” I imagine that they’re not actually going to push the envelope or try to make a commission and will abide by you saying you can’t afford it this year, but it’s probably not comfortable on their side either.
I know it would beat the purpose, but I would love to have Jerry and Omar make calls to renew season tickets. Make sure the ‘record’ button is pushed all the time.
Also to combat Ceetar’s lineup on MB and start that debate WAY too early.
Reyes
Pagan
Wright
Beltran
Bay
Ike
2B
Thole
No way do I bat Wright anything but 3rd. He is clearly our best hitter and needs to be in the spot that the best hitter hits in. Not a recovering Beltran.
I mean, who knows how ‘best hitter’ Beltran could be by April. but that’s pretty much how the lineup will pr obably end up. swapping Wright and Beltran perhaps the only real change. Honestly, unless health/slumps hit those guys, it really doesn’t matter where you put 3-4-5.
I completely disagree that it does not matter who you put 3-4-5. There is a huge difference in AB’s for 3 and 5 and a huge difference in how many baserunners are on for 3 and 4 compared to #5.
There’s supposedly some data out there to suggest that lineup matters very little. I tend to disagree with that finding in general, but as to that point..
What I was trying to get at is that Wright and Bay and Beltran are all awesome, and if they’re performing up to snuff, I don’t think it matters which one of them gets more AB or more RBI situations, because they will all come through.
Still disagree. While all three are capable, Bay and Beltran have not produced in a while and even still to me Wright is clearly a better hitter than all 3, especially at this point.
23 comments
metsfan4decades
12/15/2010-12:26am at 12:26 am (UTC -4)
Really, what would anyone expect Sandy to say here? He just spent these last few weeks reiterating on most available outlets (paper, blogs, radio, telecons, etc.) what the Mets new philosophy will be going forward and trying to drive the point home to all. He’d look pretty foolish and lose all credibility if he said anything other than the type theme he did on this short interview.
Privately, anyone else wonder what his reaction was? Something along the lines of ‘you gotta be f’ing kidding me’ – maybe?
LOL…
I know that was my exact reaction. I just asked yesterday in one of our posts – before the Lee signing – if the Phillies were the Yankees of the NL east. I guess time will tell. They’ve got about 60MIL coming off the books next years as well. Can’t expect them to stand pat for very long anymore.
njstuckintx
12/15/2010-7:51am at 7:51 am (UTC -4)
Yeah, for all their spending, they’ll have some cash coming off the books for sure.
Oleo has his plan all laid out next year, with re-signing Reyes and throwing money at Yu Darvish. I’ll have to look a little more, but I don’t think that there is much else out there. Competition is going to be fierce. Hopefully Reyes will do the hometown thing and want to stay in NY.
As for Sandy… Just keep staying the course. I do not want to start to see him wavering. Firm leadership is a good thing.
And I get the feeling we aren’t going to see another move (well, maybe 1 if we’re lucky as a Christmas gift) until 2011. That’s 2+ weeks of evaluating and hopefully enough time to focus efforts to getting 2 SPs and some RPs!
metsfan4decades
12/15/2010-8:19am at 8:19 am (UTC -4)
Over on Mets Today, Joe Janish has a post up concerning locking Reyes up for an extension now:
http://www.metstoday.com/5976/10-11-offseason/would-you-extend-jose-reyes/
This pretty much sums up my sentiments on Reyes. He states there really is no good reason not to do it now, except if the Mets know something about Reyes recent thyroid issue that they’re sitting on:
Don’t listen to the naysayers who spout about Reyes’ “durability issues” and “questionable personality” and use those faux factors as evidence Reyes won’t be worth it, and/or won’t be highly coveted by other teams. First of all, shortstops with Reyes’ skills don’t grow on trees, and the ones that have them are locked up long-term. Secondly, even if Reyes has a so-so year — similar to his 2010, for example — there will be no shortage of suitors for his services. Heck, there could be a few teams from the NL East putting in bids, considering that the Nationals are suddenly big-time spenders and the similarly spendthrift Phillies will have Jimmy Rollins off the books. Outside the division, the Dodgers should have their ownership cleared up by then and can say goodbye to Rafael Furcal next winter; the Cubs have had internal discussions about eventually moving Starlin Castro to 2B, which would free up SS; the Reds would jump at a chance to upgrade from light-hitting Paul Janish (sorry, cuz); and the Giants could have an opening at short (and Barry Zito finally coming off the books). I didn’t even get into the AL teams yet, but you can guess that the Red Sox, Tigers, Angels, and White Sox would all be in play; there’s reason to believe the Mariners, Orioles, and Blue Jays could put in bids. Let’s not even discuss what happens if Derek Jeter continues to trend downward in ’11. Take a cursory look around — there aren’t many two-way shortstops in the game today.’
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I know some Met fans won’t agree but I do – and have – all along.
njstuckintx
12/15/2010-8:33am at 8:33 am (UTC -4)
Yeah, stick and myself have been championing signing him to an extension. And if he hits FA, he’s gone. It’s going to be Cliff Lee-esque with the money they throw at him, as well as the years.
And to those teams, you can add Houston, most likely as they’ll have new ownership and money to spend.
rustyjr
12/15/2010-9:30am at 9:30 am (UTC -4)
Btw infamy may be suspended for today – depends what time I get back from the coat drive tonight
metsfan4decades
12/15/2010-9:32am at 9:32 am (UTC -4)
That’s the one at Citi field? If so…very nice.
kistics
12/15/2010-9:33am at 9:33 am (UTC -4)
Are you suspended with pay or without? :p
metsfan4decades
12/15/2010-9:34am at 9:34 am (UTC -4)
On another note, I’m reading both Strawberry and Jason Bay spent time yesterday calling season ticket holders encouraging them to renew.
I can just imagine the barrage of questions some might have had when they realized who they were talking to.
Prismo
12/15/2010-9:38am at 9:38 am (UTC -4)
Oh jeez, how awkward! I would be thrilled to have a Met call me, but there’s no way in heck a player (or anyone) could talk me into buying season tickets if I had already decided not to. That was just be soooooo awkward. “Uh…sorry Darryl….”
Ceetar
12/15/2010-10:16am at 10:16 am (UTC -4)
Darryl is one thing, but in a way this is almost the Mets emulating the ‘sleezy hardsell timeshare guy’ What, are you going to tell Jason Bay “No, sorry, I think you guys are going to suck this year.” I imagine that they’re not actually going to push the envelope or try to make a commission and will abide by you saying you can’t afford it this year, but it’s probably not comfortable on their side either.
kistics
12/15/2010-9:39am at 9:39 am (UTC -4)
I know it would beat the purpose, but I would love to have Jerry and Omar make calls to renew season tickets. Make sure the ‘record’ button is pushed all the time.
TRS86
12/15/2010-10:12am at 10:12 am (UTC -4)
Have not checked to see if this is true or not but it is interesting if true.
In the NL: There are nine guys who hit more HR than Wright last year, and one of them hit below the Mendoza line.
OK I just checked and it’s 10. Still that’s interesting.
TRS86
12/15/2010-10:14am at 10:14 am (UTC -4)
Also to combat Ceetar’s lineup on MB and start that debate WAY too early.
Reyes
Pagan
Wright
Beltran
Bay
Ike
2B
Thole
No way do I bat Wright anything but 3rd. He is clearly our best hitter and needs to be in the spot that the best hitter hits in. Not a recovering Beltran.
Ceetar
12/15/2010-10:18am at 10:18 am (UTC -4)
my lineup?
I mean, who knows how ‘best hitter’ Beltran could be by April. but that’s pretty much how the lineup will pr obably end up. swapping Wright and Beltran perhaps the only real change. Honestly, unless health/slumps hit those guys, it really doesn’t matter where you put 3-4-5.
TRS86
12/15/2010-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
I completely disagree that it does not matter who you put 3-4-5. There is a huge difference in AB’s for 3 and 5 and a huge difference in how many baserunners are on for 3 and 4 compared to #5.
Ceetar
12/15/2010-10:42am at 10:42 am (UTC -4)
There’s supposedly some data out there to suggest that lineup matters very little. I tend to disagree with that finding in general, but as to that point..
What I was trying to get at is that Wright and Bay and Beltran are all awesome, and if they’re performing up to snuff, I don’t think it matters which one of them gets more AB or more RBI situations, because they will all come through.
TRS86
12/15/2010-10:47am at 10:47 am (UTC -4)
Still disagree. While all three are capable, Bay and Beltran have not produced in a while and even still to me Wright is clearly a better hitter than all 3, especially at this point.
kistics
12/15/2010-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
Looks good to me!~
njstuckintx
12/15/2010-10:39am at 10:39 am (UTC -4)
If that 2B is Murphy, it’ll look good to me too!
Go Big Murph!
kistics
12/15/2010-11:04am at 11:04 am (UTC -4)
As long as it’s not Castillo…
oleosmirf
12/15/2010-1:28pm at 1:28 pm (UTC -4)
I would consider putting Ike 5th and Bay 6th when Murphy and Thole are both in the lineup just so we dont have 3 lefties in a row.
i would also like to see a bench of Nickeas/Paulino, Emaus, Turner, LH 4th OF and Evans
kistics
12/15/2010-11:33am at 11:33 am (UTC -4)
Anyone has any news on Chris Young or Francis?
njstuckintx
12/15/2010-11:35am at 11:35 am (UTC -4)
Nada.