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I am trying to put compile a list of the top 50 Mets of all time. I want you the reader to submit me a list of 50 Mets players that you think qualifies for this list. This list can include anybody who ever donned a Mets uniform – even (gasp) Oliver Perez !!!
So please email me at rustyjr@realdirtymets.com .
I will accept your emails until next Friday . I am looking forward to your submissions
Thanks
Rustyjr
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40 comments
metsfan4decades
1/7/2011-8:23pm at 8:23 pm (UTC -4)
Well, this will take some thought….but I’ll submit my list.
stickguy
1/7/2011-8:29pm at 8:29 pm (UTC -4)
it must say something sad about me that I knew exactly who that was when I saw the picture, before I even scrolled down read the caption.
do you require a full 50? better take smaller #s too!
also, do you have any criteria? Does length of service matter? And I assume that you just mean while they played for the mets (otherwise Willie Mays gets to be #1)
rustyjr
1/7/2011-8:32pm at 8:32 pm (UTC -4)
As many A’s you feel deserves the honor – can be any kind of player – scrub or star
Mr North Jersey
1/7/2011-9:55pm at 9:55 pm (UTC -4)
I have to admit other than fixing the image of this Met I have no f’ing clue who Boisclair is nor have I ever heard his name before today.
stickguy
1/7/2011-10:25pm at 10:25 pm (UTC -4)
He was late 70s, so not really before your time, unless you were otherwise occupied as a teenager.
I remember him because a friend and I used to try to mimic his stance and swing hitting balls in the backyard. he had a very wide stance IIRC. and other than that, pretty much sucked, but hey, back then the whole team did!
Mr North Jersey
1/7/2011-10:56pm at 10:56 pm (UTC -4)
Man I don’t know if I can name 50 Mets?
My 2 favorite pitchers have to be Gooden and Cone
I don’t know if I have a favorite closer?
My favorite position players have to be. Keith Hernandez, Howard Johnson, Edgardo Alfonzo, Strawberry, David Wright, Piazza, Beltran, Hubie Brooks
stickguy
1/7/2011-11:06pm at 11:06 pm (UTC -4)
at least you get to use your own criteria for what “top” means.
ajgmets
1/7/2011-11:28pm at 11:28 pm (UTC -4)
My top 50 sorta..LOL http://bit.ly/fmn6Bw
njstuckintx
1/8/2011-10:37am at 10:37 am (UTC -4)
You realize Bonilla is on that list, right? And yes, i know he had some very good seasons, but Bobby Bo? Makes me verp a little.
wannybackstra
1/7/2011-11:32pm at 11:32 pm (UTC -4)
stream of consciousness:
1. Ed Kranepool
2. Tommie Agee
3. Tom Seaver
4. Jerry Koosman
5. Jon Matlack
6. Bud Harrelson
7. Ron Swoboda
8. Cleon Jones
9. Jim Hickman
10. Al Jackson
11. John Stearns
12. Jerry Grote
13. Ron Hunt
14. Felix Millan
15. Rusty Staub
16. Tug McGraw
17. Craig Swan
18. Ron Taylor
19. Jesse Orosco
20. Roger McDowell
21. John Franco
22. Billy Wagner
23. Armando Benitez
24. Ray Knight
25. Pedro Martinez
26. Lee Mazzilli
27. Joel Youngblood
28. Dave Kingman
29. Daryl Strawberry
30. Keith Hernandez
31. Gary Carter
32. Mike Piazza
33. Doc Gooden
34. Mookie Wilson
35. Lenny Dykstra
36. Hojo
37. Ron Darling
38. David Cone
39. Edgardo Alfonzo
40. David Wright
41. Jose Reyes
42. Johan Santana
43. Al Leiter
44. John Olerud
45. Robin Ventura
46. Carlos Beltran
47. Cliff Floyd
48. Wally Backman
49. Bobby Ojeda
50. Sid Fernandez
Also on the mind, Wayne Garrett and Ken Boswell were in two world series, Rick Reed, Bobby Jones, Neil Allen, Hubie Brooks and Ellis Valentine.
wannybackstra
1/7/2011-11:34pm at 11:34 pm (UTC -4)
really should have gotten hundley in there.
njstuckintx
1/8/2011-10:22am at 10:22 am (UTC -4)
Yeah, Hundley prob. deserves to be on there.
Does Benitiz need to be on there?
Now, if we were to rank them on performance…
1. Seaver
2. Piazza
3. Gooden
4. Beltran
5. Strawberry
Based on belovedness…
1. Seaver
2. Wright
3. Mookie
4. Keith
5. Mazz
Just food for thought.
rustyjr
1/8/2011-10:26am at 10:26 am (UTC -4)
read the new post – I explain it better
and please email me your list
njstuckintx
1/8/2011-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
I’ll do it. Got 2 kids with RSV so it may take me a couple of days…
rustyjr
1/8/2011-10:33am at 10:33 am (UTC -4)
no prob – open til friday
njstuckintx
1/8/2011-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
Just looking at WAR for all time… Only Mantle (1956) had a better modern day WAR than Doc did in 1985. Tied for 31st best. Ever. There were a couple guys in the 20′s (Ruth, Hornesby) and then a bunch of 1800′s guys and 1910s…
But who knows… Why trade for Garza when we have the next Doc in Mejia? Sorry, couldn’t resist.
RayLee
1/8/2011-7:27pm at 7:27 pm (UTC -4)
On behalf of those who were there in the very beginning……
- Casey Stengel (as manager)
- Gil Hodges (as a player)
- Richie Ashburn (the twilight years)
- Marvelous Marv Throneberry
- Choo Choo Coleman
- Nolan Ryan (ok, not in 1962, but he was already the Express as a Met))
- Art Shamsky (more famous from “Everybody Loves Raymond)
Memories……….
Skatch
1/8/2011-10:47pm at 10:47 pm (UTC -4)
Gil Hodges
Bud Harrelson
Ron Hunt
Rusty Staub
Tug McGraw
Jesse Orosco
Roger McDowell
Billy Wagner
Ray Knight
Lee Mazzilli
Keith Hernandez
Gary Carter
Mike Piazza
Doc Gooden
Mookie Wilson
Lenny Dykstra
Darryl Strawberry
Ron Darling
David Cone
David Wright
Jose Reyes
Al Leiter
Carlos Beltran
Cliff Floyd
Wally Backman
Bobby Ojeda
Sid Fernandez
Kevin Mitchell
Danny Heep
Dave Magaden
Mr North Jersey
1/8/2011-11:18pm at 11:18 pm (UTC -4)
JETS WIN!!! JETS WIN!!! JETS WIN!!! AND THEY’RE GOING CRAZY LOL
dckip
1/9/2011-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
I did not include great players and Hall of Famers who played for the Mets if they did nothing as a Met. I did include Rickey Henderson on my list cause he had a real good year or two with the team. I did not include the follwoing as they did not do much as a player on the team, not counting what they did as manager or coach, but as a player… they are..
Willie Mays, Yogi Berra, Gil Hodges, Warren Spahn, Duke Snider, Richie Ashburn, Marv Throneberry, Willie Randolph, Rick Aguilera, Roberto Alomar, Jason Bay, Vince Coleman, Tom Glavine, Orel Hershiser, Jason Isringhausen, Mickey Lolich, Eddie Murray, Mo Vaughn, Gary Sheffield and Joe Torre….
dckip
1/9/2011-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
not that Marv Throneberry was a great player, but he was a great name …
dckip
1/9/2011-2:09pm at 2:09 pm (UTC -4)
top 51 Mets all time- Piazza, Seaver, KHernandez, GCarter, DWright, Strawberry, Gooden, Koosman, Matlack, Leiter, Mookie, Dykstra, Ojeda, SFernandez, Cone, HoJo, Knight, JReyes, Staub, Tug McGraw, Darling, Mazzilli, Kingman, Nolan Ryan, Kranepool, Grote, Hundley, Lance Johnson, Gilkey, Clendennon, Harrelson, Pedro Martinez, Johan Santana, Olerud, Zeile, Ventura, Cleon Jones, Agee, Alfonzo, Backman, Carlos Beltran, Hubie Brooks, Rickey Henderson, Carlos Delgado, Elster, John Franco, John Milner, Randy Myers, Billy Wagner, Bret Saberhagen, and Frank Viola
RayLee
1/10/2011-6:28pm at 6:28 pm (UTC -4)
I have always believed that the ’62 Mets were the inspiration for the movie Major League. I was only 10 years old, and a die-hard Yankees fan, until I realized that there was an entertainment element to baseball. I can still see Casey grumbling and pacing in the dugout as another MLB castoff showed why they were castoff……..
Prismo
1/10/2011-8:03pm at 8:03 pm (UTC -4)
Rusty, I wish I could help here, but I’m afraid I’m just too young! While I’m sure I could come up with 50 names, and most would be reasonable, I think missing the first championship team and the mid-late 80′s team (well, I don’t remember watching it live), I can’t really fairly compare players. Looking forward to the results though!
rustyjr
1/10/2011-8:09pm at 8:09 pm (UTC -4)
Then send me a list of your top 10
hazmet
1/10/2011-8:39pm at 8:39 pm (UTC -4)
Hey Prismo – Happy New Year.
Try not to let that be a gate, Ultimate Mets Database is awesome if you just use the Roster tab and it lists every Mets player alphabetically and you can check their stats as Mets. You could probably rattle off the first 35 in about 5 minutes even without that.
Good luck with the upcoming semester
hazmet
1/10/2011-8:59pm at 8:59 pm (UTC -4)
Random question: If the Mets cut either Ollie or Luis as part of signing Young, which one will get the axe first?
Just feel the rumblings over the past few days about cutting one of them loose is priming the pump to let one go as part of bringing Young on board.
Any thoughts out there?
stickguy
1/10/2011-10:14pm at 10:14 pm (UTC -4)
just a WAG, but Castillo because I think they are happy (if that is the right word) with the 2B options in house, and don’t see Slappy as offering a realistic chance of giving more production than the other guys floating around (any of whom could also be around beyond 2011).
Ollie though could still be needed (in theory) given that they are short of pitching.
but the key to keeping one is who they think still has a chance of being traded in ST, and sadly, that would probably be the enigmatic lefty SP in his 20s.
fongy2
1/11/2011-12:27pm at 12:27 pm (UTC -4)
Alright Rusty, I have given this some thought the past couple days
and here we go…….Top 50 Mets of all time:
With out question #1, Tom Terrific.
the rest of my top 10, Straw, Doc, Piazza, Mex, The Kid, Koos,
Wright, Reyes & Fonzie.
11-20 in no particular order, Tug, Jesse O, McDowell, Matlack, Cone, Mookie, Beltran, Hojo, Agee & Grote.
21-30 in no particular order, Buddy, Leiter, Darling, Knight,
Wally, Maz, Ventura, Olerud, Dykstra & Johnny Franco.
31-40 in no particular order, Rusty, Krane, Cleon, Milner,
Kingman, McReynolds, Delgado, Ojeda, El Sid & Ordonez.
41-50 in no particular order, Hundley, Stevie Hendu, Hunt, Swan,
Rick Reed, Turk Wendell, Skip Lockwood, Dougie Flynn, Stearns
AND finally our longest serving back-up Catcher Ron Hodges.
kingman 26
1/11/2011-8:00pm at 8:00 pm (UTC -4)
1-Tom Seaver
2-Keith Hernandez
3-Mike Piazza
4-Gil Hodges
5-Frank Cashen
6-Dwight Gooden
7-Darryl Strawberry
8-Jerry Koosman
9-Davey Johnson
10-Jesse Orosco
11-David Wright
12-Carlos Beltran
13-Jose Reyes
14-Edgardo Alfonzo
15-Gary Carter
16-Jon Matlack
17-Mookie Wilson
18-Tug McGraw
19-Howard Johnson
20-Rusty Staub
21-Jerry Grote
22-Bud Harrelson
23-Cleon Jones
24-John Franco
25-Bobby Valentine
26-Ron Darling
27-David Cone
28-Roger McDowell
29-Dave Kingman
30-Lenny Dykstra
31-Sid Fernandez
32-Al Leiter
33-Tommie Agee
34-Lee Mazzilli
35-John Stearns
36-Ed Kranepool
37-Hubie Brooks
38-Ray Knight
39-Donn Clendenon
40-Wally Backman
41-Randy Myers
42-Bob Ojeda
43-Craig Swan
44-John Milner
45-Todd Hundley
46-Skip Lockwood
47-Casey Stengel
48-Rey Ordonez
49-John Olerud
50-Ron Hunt
hazmet
1/11/2011-8:11pm at 8:11 pm (UTC -4)
Here’s the list I e-mailed in:
Tom Seaver
Jerry Koosman
Jon Matlack
Dwight Gooden
David Cone
Ron Darling
Sid Fernandez
Bobby Ojeda
Al Leiter
Rick Reed
Frank Viola
Tom Glavine
Nolan Ryan
Bobby Jones
Tug McGraw
Jesse Orosco
John Franco
Roger McDowell
Doug Sisk
Terry Leach
Turk Wendell
Ed Kranepool
Bud Harrelson
Keith Hernandez
Wally Backman
Edgardo Alfonzo
Hubie Brooks
David Wright
Jose Reyes
John Olerud
John Milner
Robin Ventura
Ray Knight
Don Clendenon
Howard Johnson
Cleon Jones
Tommy Agee
Ron Swaboda
Daryl Strawberry
Lenny Dykstra
Mookie Wilson
Carlos Beltran
Rusty Staub
Lee Mazzilli
Dave Kingman
Kevin McReynolds
Jerry Grote
Mike Piazza
Gary Carter
Ron Hodges
And Yes the list does say Rick Reed. The underappreciated steady but not spectacular #3 from the Piazza era. His numbers were better than most would think and I love the fact that he was a scab that had to prove himself every single day of his career.
TRS86
1/11/2011-8:44pm at 8:44 pm (UTC -4)
Not really in any order unless that is also a requirement.
1. Tom Seaver
2. Dwight Gooden
3. Daryl Strawberry
4. Keith Hernandez
5. Gary Carter
6. Ron Darling
7. Sid Fernandez
8. Mookie Wilson
9. Todd Hundley
10. Greg Jefferies (had to put that in there considering I still have about 200 of his BB cards)
11. Davey Johnson
12. David Wright
13. Jose Reyes
14. Johan Santana
15. Carlos Beltran
16. John Olerud
17. John Franco
18. Krod
19. Rusty
20. Edgardo Alfonzo
21. Al Leiter
22. Bobby Ojeda
23. David Cone
24. Howard Johnson
25. Jesse Orosco
26. Mike Piazza
27. Dave Magadan
28. Carlos Delgado
29. Rick Reed
30. Tug McGraw
31. Frank Viola
32. Bobby Jones
33. Jerry Koosman
34. Jon Matlack
35. Saberhagen
36. Roger McDowell
37. Pedro Martinez
38. Benny Agbayani
39. Rey Ordonez
40. Robin Ventura
41. Todd Zeile
42. Kevin McReynolds
43. Ray Knight
44. Dykstra
45. Rickey Henderson
46. Todd Pratt
47. Bernard Gilkey
48. Randy Myers
49. Rick Aguilera
50. Tom Glavine
gategem
1/11/2011-9:26pm at 9:26 pm (UTC -4)
I go back to the very first Mets game ever played and so I’ll include players that most will not but these guys paved the way for those that followed. I did not include Mangers or Announcers as they have their own special category. In no particular order:
Pitchers:
• Tom Seaver
• J Santana
• J Koosman
• J Matlack
• D Gooden
• R. Darling
• S Fernandez
• J Orosco
• T McGraw
• R McDowell
• R Myers
• A Leiter
• A Benitez
• J Franco
• A Jackson
• D. Cone
• P. Marteniz
• B. Ojeda
• P. Zachary
• F. Viola
Position Players
• J. Reyes
• D. Wright
• M. Piazza
• C. Beltran
• C. Delgado
• C. Floyd
• T. Agee
• C. Jones
• B. Harrelson
• J. Grote
• E. Kranepool
• D. Clendenon
• F. Millan
• R. Staub
• K Hernandez
• G Carter
• R Knight
• D Strawberry
• L Dykstra
• W Backman
• M Wilson
• T Teufel
• H Johnson
• L Mazzilli
• E. Alfonzo
• R. Ventura
• R. Hunt
• D. Kingman
• K. McReynolds
• J. Olerud
metsfan1744
1/12/2011-8:47pm at 8:47 pm (UTC -4)
Love The Mets.
metsfan4decades
1/13/2011-5:53pm at 5:53 pm (UTC -4)
O.K. – e-mailed my list. This was harder than I thought it was going to be.
I gave up putting in any kind of order of importance. My list takes into account intangibles (such as the McDowell keeping them all loose in the dugout in ’86) and some just b/c they were my favorite as a young Met fan from the ’69 team (as in Buddy).
I could not include the likes of Glavine, Saberhagen, Viola Bonilla, Benitez or Kent. I don’t care how much they might have contributed.
Tom Seaver
David Wright
Doc Gooden
Mike Piazza
Daryl Strawberry
Keith Hernandez
Carlos Beltran
Edgardo Alfonzo
Jerry Koosman
Al Leiter
John Franco
Gary Carter
David Cone
Jose Reyes
Ed Kranepool
Ron Darling
Sid Fernandez
Howard Johnson
Jon Matlack
Johan Santana
Jesse Orosco
Tug McGraw
Rusty Staub
Jon Olerud
Bob Ojeda
Rick Reed
Carlos Delgado
Todd Hundley
Billy Wagner
Cleon Jones
Mookie Wilson
Buddy Harrelson
Lenny Dykstra
Robin Ventura
Ray Knight
Pedro Martinez
Dave Kingman
Lee Mazzilli
Tommie Agee
Nolan Ryan
Craig Swan
John Milner
Bobby Jones
Ront Hunt
Jerry Grote
Roger McDowell
Pedro Feliciano
Frank Cashen
Gil Hodges
Davey Johnson
**Honorable mention to William Shea. Without him, there very possibly would be no NY Mets.
Prismo
1/13/2011-7:14pm at 7:14 pm (UTC -4)
1. Oliver Perez
2. Armando Benitez
3. Luis Castillo
4. Roberto Alomar
5. Mo Vaughn
6. Jeff Kent
7. Bobby Bonilla
8. Aaron Heilman
9. Braden Looper
10. Victor Zambrano
Wait…I think I’m making the wrong list.
kingman 26
1/13/2011-7:24pm at 7:24 pm (UTC -4)
11. George Foster
12. Vince Coleman
13. Bret Saberhagen
14. Eddie Murray
15. Doug Sisk
16. Jeff Torborg
17. Art Howe
18. Carlos Baerga
19. Juan Samuel
20. Ambiorix Burgos
njstuckintx
1/13/2011-7:27pm at 7:27 pm (UTC -4)
Shouldn’t Young and his losing streak be on this list somewhere?
kingman 26
1/13/2011-8:08pm at 8:08 pm (UTC -4)
Well, I would say no…he was a good guy, and really did not pitch nearly that terribly—those were BAD teams….
metsfan4decades
1/13/2011-7:33pm at 7:33 pm (UTC -4)
Ha! you had me going there for a bit.