The Mets have avoided arbitration with Angel Pagan, signing him to a one-year, $3.5 million contract.
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Jan 31
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Mr North Jersey
1/31/2011-5:40pm at 5:40 pm (UTC -4)
“For the first time in my career I have a spot on the team,” Pagan said in a statement released by the team. “But I’m not taking anything for granted. I can’t wait for spring training to start. I think we’ll be better than people are predicting.”
http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/13830/mets-pagan-avoid-arbitration
stickguy
1/31/2011-7:00pm at 7:00 pm (UTC -4)
the players are lining up for a big, “nobody believes in us, it’s us against the world” year here.
Hey, I already guaranteed at least a WC berth or something, right?
TRS86
2/1/2011-8:24am at 8:24 am (UTC -4)
Don’t care what anyone says, I like Pagan and I am glad we have him. I hope he proves his doubters wrong this year.
Ceetar
2/1/2011-9:08am at 9:08 am (UTC -4)
Love the guy. In fact, there are a lot of really likeable Mets.
I just bought a Pagan jersey actually. it’s in the mail.
metsfan4decades
2/1/2011-9:49am at 9:49 am (UTC -4)
Very nice. DId you have that special made or are they selling Pagan jerseys? Last time I looked some months ago, it wasn’t offered.
Ceetar
2/1/2011-9:52am at 9:52 am (UTC -4)
Always an option on shop.mlb.com via the personalization. That’s what I did. I went with the cream pinstriped one.
Also, a blue personalized Dickey shirt.
njstuckintx
2/1/2011-9:10am at 9:10 am (UTC -4)
And if he plays well again, who is to say there isn’t an extension down the line. Let the bat do the talking and you’ll most certainly have a spot on the team, Mr. Pagan.
TRS86
2/1/2011-9:19am at 9:19 am (UTC -4)
I agree, there still could be an extension but if he plays well and the fact that we have almost no one ready to play CF he would be in line for a 2-3 year extension.
Ceetar
2/1/2011-9:21am at 9:21 am (UTC -4)
That would pretty much be the ideal situation. We control his 2012 still.
njstuckintx
2/1/2011-9:28am at 9:28 am (UTC -4)
Which is not a bad thing at all. I think it’s our collective fear that he’s getting older and his past mental & physical difficulties make us wary, but if he’s just a late bloomer, would not be bad to have him as our CF for the next few years. It’s not like he’ll be costing 20 mil per for 7 years…
Ceetar
2/1/2011-9:43am at 9:43 am (UTC -4)
Ideal to have contributing players not making free agent money. Right now our offensive holes are 1 OF spot, SS, and 2B for 2012, and maybe C. But all of those have the potential to be filled internally, which would be best case in terms of flexibility.
njstuckintx
2/1/2011-9:50am at 9:50 am (UTC -4)
Absolutely. I hope my feeling that Reyes walks is unfounded, as that is going to be a spot not easily filled, especially from an internal perspective.
You’ll be looking at Niese, Santana, Pelf, Dickey & Gee for next year, assuming Gee steps up or we’ll see another FA signing. for that.
The BP is year to year.
And there is the “hopefully” potential to fill the closer role, barring Krod’s option not vesting. There is flexibility there.
saltygary
1/31/2011-5:46pm at 5:46 pm (UTC -4)
2 down, 1 tall Yippy white guy to go.
metsfan4decades
1/31/2011-6:06pm at 6:06 pm (UTC -4)
Are you talking about Pelfrey? If yes, he signed first.
I don’t think there’s anyone left.
stickguy
1/31/2011-7:01pm at 7:01 pm (UTC -4)
nope, pagan was the last guy unsigned. Barring a couple last MiL invites, you pretty much got the players pool to pick from.
saltygary
1/31/2011-7:44pm at 7:44 pm (UTC -4)
Totally missed that one, thanks.
kingman 26
1/31/2011-5:50pm at 5:50 pm (UTC -4)
So the Wilpons have now committed another roughly 7.5 mil for 2011 with Dickey and Pagan and Pelf will surely put that over 10.
What does that make payroll?
metsfan4decades
1/31/2011-6:06pm at 6:06 pm (UTC -4)
I completely lost track. Have absolutely no idea…
And good for Pagan. He’s worth that much for the one year.
stickguy
1/31/2011-7:05pm at 7:05 pm (UTC -4)
docley and pagan are both steals if they approximate what they did last year.
these are the kind of guys you need to be able to afford the expensive stars. Quality starters at a bargain price.
the mets could end up with a solid 4 men in the rotation, combined making less than Johan.
Prismo
1/31/2011-7:10pm at 7:10 pm (UTC -4)
Who the hell is docley?
stickguy
1/31/2011-7:27pm at 7:27 pm (UTC -4)
dickey, smartass.
Prismo
1/31/2011-6:59pm at 6:59 pm (UTC -4)
I’m counting $137.5
stickguy
1/31/2011-7:03pm at 7:03 pm (UTC -4)
no clue. wait for Cots to get updated, even though sometimes there are discrepancies, especially with how the count signing bonuses.
but it must be at least what Pris said. I thought it was probably over 140 by now.
also not sure how they count incentives, and guaranteed buy outs (Like K Rod has) which could jack the number up more.
Prismo
1/31/2011-7:05pm at 7:05 pm (UTC -4)
I just used Cots and added in Dickey and Pagan and .5 mil each for Niese and Murph
TRS86
2/1/2011-7:51am at 7:51 am (UTC -4)
Remember that your entire 40 man roster counts on your payroll. Cots has the Mets at 133.1 for 17 players and about 2.5M for Iggy and GMJR.
Thus you still have 23 players to add to that payroll, even at league minimum that would still place the payroll around 145M just as reported.
saltygary
1/31/2011-7:45pm at 7:45 pm (UTC -4)
I have a spreadsheet at work, Ill load it up tomorrow.
hazmet
1/31/2011-7:12pm at 7:12 pm (UTC -4)
I just scanned what I think are all the posts from the day and I don’t believe I saw anybody weighing in on the second ponzi scheme that the Wilpons were caught up in. Apparently, they settled around 2 years ago for some amount when they withdrew their investment from a scheme right before it folded. Supposedly, because they received a tip and got out, it was then discovered and they had to settle. This was on WFAN around lunch today and they said this was just starting to break loose and the news was going to be getting worse for the Wilpons. Has anybody heard anything else about this 2nd scheme? If this is true, oh boy. Apparently, Saul was tasked to handle the settlement a couple of years ago right around the time Madoff was starting to break. If this is true, then this is going to get monumentally uglier and fast. One might say iconically ugly. Man I hope this isn’t try, enuff already.
Prismo
1/31/2011-7:15pm at 7:15 pm (UTC -4)
And they didn’t go to jail? That’s exactly what Martha Stewart did…
hazmet
1/31/2011-7:22pm at 7:22 pm (UTC -4)
I know, this is why I’m hoping to find out something more from the most informed and educational blog on the web
Then again, a number of men have done what MS did and didn’t go to jail. That to me was some serious double standard going on. Alright she was on the Stock Exchange Board etc but man she got hosed, and not in a good way.
metsfan4decades
1/31/2011-7:26pm at 7:26 pm (UTC -4)
Yes, here’s the NY Times link on that story.
I think it’s a little more complicated than ‘they received a tip and got out, it was then discovered and they had to settle’. At least that’s the way I’m reading this story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/sports/baseball/31mets.html?_r=1&ref=baseball
If that’s the kind of stuff that WFAN is is putting out there, with I assume their own twist or interpretation, we’re in for a loooong summer….
stickguy
1/31/2011-7:26pm at 7:26 pm (UTC -4)
there was an article in the times. I believe that there was no proof they actually knew about, or were involved in, the scheme.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/sports/baseball/31mets.html
if you read it all, the wilpons are not even mentioned in the details. in effect they invested money with the stamos guy, which he then managed. Entirely possible the wilpons knew nothing at all about what was going on.
hazmet
1/31/2011-7:44pm at 7:44 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks 4D & stick. What a shame, I really feel bad for the Wilpons right now after reading that. Seems like this gave the game plan for the guy going after them now. Sorry, long day, I can’t remember names I read 5 minutes ago. He’s probably figuring heck they settled before, I’ve got a precedent that they got out of an earlier scheme just in time, I’ve got them nailed. And unfortunately, he probably does with the Madoff association. It’s not realistic but I wish they’d fight this guy now since it seems they’re about to get railroaded. Probably cheaper just to settle for them though, both financially and emotionally.
metsfan4decades
1/31/2011-9:18pm at 9:18 pm (UTC -4)
I’m on overload reading all the articles on the Wilpons, the Mets, did they lie, are they stupid? blah, blah, blah.
The final one I think I can take for tonight is the one I just read over on AA. Man, everyone is a finance expert and have a link into Wilpon’s mind.
Saw Hot Stove tonight on MLB network. Todd Ziele had nothing but good things to say about the Wilpons and the organization when he played for the Mets. Harold Reynolds went onto say that he knows for a fact that Fred is a baseball fanatic, cares deeply about the team winning. He said he didn’t buy that team just to brag around that he now owned a MLB team, come hang out with me at Shea. Harold said he’s passionate about the team and sincerely wants to bring a winner to NY.
Bottom line is I’ve not heard one person in the media, (only many Met fans themselves) say one bad thing about Fred Wilpon or remotely hint he’s a crook. Found it interesting that when most talk about this, they refer to Fred, not the Wilpons. In fact Harold started to say the Wilpons, but stopped and said something like ‘well, Fred-the father. (lol, in fact he stopped himself just before he he finished the phrase ‘old man’).
metsfan4decades
1/31/2011-9:27pm at 9:27 pm (UTC -4)
I know I said I was done for the night but then came across this link and just had to see what it was all about:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2011/01/31/2011-01-31_mets_owners_attorneys_accuse_trustee_of_leaks_attempted_character_assassination_.html
The owners of the New York Mets are victims of “significant leaks” and “attempted character assassination” by Irving Picard, the trustee suing the Mets owners to retrieve money they might have made in Bernard Madoff’s vast Ponzi scheme, according to court papers.
stickguy
1/31/2011-9:47pm at 9:47 pm (UTC -4)
at this point, I have stopped caring about all the periphery stuff. Might as well stop spending any time on blog sites, since there is nothing related to baseball these days (as in, the team on the field), or just about nothing. And when there is, it immediately veers off into personal character assassination, and financial discussions (mostly by people who have no clue about it!)
but MF, that was what I always would see about Fred at least. Nice guy, cares a lot, wants to see the team do well, but seems to have some issues getting the right people in place and trusting them too much.
oleosmirf
1/31/2011-7:28pm at 7:28 pm (UTC -4)
very nice and if he has a similar season to 2009 or 2010, look for a nice 2 year extension with a 3rd year option.
metsfan4decades
1/31/2011-7:35pm at 7:35 pm (UTC -4)
Interesting- per Rubin:
Mike Barwis, the director of strength and conditioning for the University of Michigan, tweeted today that he is in New York for the day consulting with the Mets.
You can read Barwis’ bio on his web site here. Barwis previously worked at West Virginia University for 14 years.
Sandy Alderson recently said he had yet to hire a new strength and conditioning coach to replace Rick Slate, who was not retained. The Mets hope installing the proper protocols will diminish the spate of injuries the organization has endured in recent years.
stickguy
1/31/2011-8:30pm at 8:30 pm (UTC -4)
can’t possibly hurt, if the players stick with the program.
hazmet
1/31/2011-7:56pm at 7:56 pm (UTC -4)
A couple of random observations:
1. I’m incredibly grateful for the little things like RDM resetting the standings to even across the board unlike FWICG.
2. From being over at FWICG I see another post of touring RA’s home town. Man, I tell ya Burkhardt is all over Dickey this off season….
man, I’m infantile…..
stickguy
1/31/2011-8:30pm at 8:30 pm (UTC -4)
pun intended, I see.
wannybackstra
1/31/2011-10:10pm at 10:10 pm (UTC -4)
speaking of fwicg.com, someone please tell him how to spell “madoff.”
stickguy
1/31/2011-11:23pm at 11:23 pm (UTC -4)
I’m surprised he gets “cerrone” right .