let’s see, Santana is 32 now. Seems to be a “magic” age.
Interesting fact (since there is that other team in the division trying it).
Since 1901,there have only been 4 teams that had 3 SPs age 32+that all made 32 starts each (without a knuckleballer in the rotation,there were 3 more of those).
over 100 years, and only 4 team? Hard to believe, especially since for much of that, there were 4 man rotations.
After getting back to civilization and reading this junk this morning it’s amazing that more reporters are not held accountable for their work. This is reckless reporting at it’s best. To say “Internally, the Mets believe they’ll be “lucky” if Santana pitches this year.” with only one “source” making this comment? Who are “the Mets” anyway? Sandy? Warthen? Wilpon? Johan? You mean they are all in agreement and think the exact same thing?
If he said, “There are some Mets internally who doubt Santana’s ability to come back from the surgery in time to pitch this season” That could very well be true and fine to say. But to report something with the title “Johan Santana’s season in jeopardy for the Mets.” and then going on Twitter with comments like “Decision day could be here today. Mets fear Johan Santana’s season in jeopardy:” “Santana possibly writing off the season isn’t enough to get you off this subject?”
Since when is Santana writing off the season? This is just pure click mongering.
It’s not that I think he has an axe to grind, like I do with Rubin. To me this is all about trying to make a name for yourself. Go out and make a “safe yet shocking comment” with an unnamed source. Who can hold you accountable if you are wrong? All he has to say is “Well Johan said there was discomfort” or well “I guess that source was playing it safe”. Yet if it turns out Johan does have a major set back then he gets to toot his own horn to glory. What repercussions are there?
See that’s my point, he can pray he does not come back, will only help his views. However, if Johan does come back there still is nothing to hold him accountable for…. “Well the source was wrong…”
And now his Tweets have to appear twice on the sidebar? Conspiracy!
Does it? Again he has already explained it away by saying “Well Johan said there was discomfort”… How many of us will even remember in August “Hey I guess Steve Popper was wrong, I am not clicking on his stuff anymore”?
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njstuckintx
3/13/2011-5:02pm at 5:02 pm (UTC -4)
What if it was a ‘SHE’?
kingman 26
3/13/2011-5:10pm at 5:10 pm (UTC -4)
Really, what the hell is the difference?
These guys all exaggerate and lie to get more hits.
It doesn’t even matter.
Johan will be back in August if then, and who knows how he will be.
stickguy
3/13/2011-5:22pm at 5:22 pm (UTC -4)
people love to hear a best possible case scenario, then somehow treat it as the expected result so anything worse is late or a lie!
I said after the details of the surgery came out that my odds were IIRC 90% that he misses the entire year and 20% he never pitched effectively again,
something along those lines.
stickguy
3/13/2011-9:15pm at 9:15 pm (UTC -4)
let’s see, Santana is 32 now. Seems to be a “magic” age.
Interesting fact (since there is that other team in the division trying it).
Since 1901,there have only been 4 teams that had 3 SPs age 32+that all made 32 starts each (without a knuckleballer in the rotation,there were 3 more of those).
over 100 years, and only 4 team? Hard to believe, especially since for much of that, there were 4 man rotations.
TRS86
3/14/2011-8:27am at 8:27 am (UTC -4)
After getting back to civilization and reading this junk this morning it’s amazing that more reporters are not held accountable for their work. This is reckless reporting at it’s best. To say “Internally, the Mets believe they’ll be “lucky” if Santana pitches this year.” with only one “source” making this comment? Who are “the Mets” anyway? Sandy? Warthen? Wilpon? Johan? You mean they are all in agreement and think the exact same thing?
If he said, “There are some Mets internally who doubt Santana’s ability to come back from the surgery in time to pitch this season” That could very well be true and fine to say. But to report something with the title “Johan Santana’s season in jeopardy for the Mets.” and then going on Twitter with comments like “Decision day could be here today. Mets fear Johan Santana’s season in jeopardy:” “Santana possibly writing off the season isn’t enough to get you off this subject?”
Since when is Santana writing off the season? This is just pure click mongering.
kingman 26
3/14/2011-8:30am at 8:30 am (UTC -4)
Geez, I sure hope Wanny isn’t reading this blasphemy.
Didn’t Rubin tell us Ollie would be cut about a week ago?
Oh well, even he can be wrong once….
TRS86
3/14/2011-8:37am at 8:37 am (UTC -4)
It’s not that I think he has an axe to grind, like I do with Rubin. To me this is all about trying to make a name for yourself. Go out and make a “safe yet shocking comment” with an unnamed source. Who can hold you accountable if you are wrong? All he has to say is “Well Johan said there was discomfort” or well “I guess that source was playing it safe”. Yet if it turns out Johan does have a major set back then he gets to toot his own horn to glory. What repercussions are there?
Dirtysanchez
3/14/2011-8:44am at 8:44 am (UTC -4)
Never a dull day in metsville…steve popper is praying santana doesnt come back this year…unless steve is pulling a tom jackson
(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/577091-tom-jackson-claims-he-picked-new-england-patriots-to-motivate-new-york-jets)
TRS86
3/14/2011-8:49am at 8:49 am (UTC -4)
See that’s my point, he can pray he does not come back, will only help his views. However, if Johan does come back there still is nothing to hold him accountable for…. “Well the source was wrong…”
And now his Tweets have to appear twice on the sidebar? Conspiracy!
Dirtysanchez
3/14/2011-9:13am at 9:13 am (UTC -4)
Well the accountability hit will come in the form of his credibility…see the boy who cried wolf
kingman 26
3/14/2011-9:34am at 9:34 am (UTC -4)
Alas, it will not.
Olney has been flat-out making things up for years.
Heyman is wrong far more often than he is right.
Dirtysanchez
3/14/2011-9:39am at 9:39 am (UTC -4)
Doesn’t the fact that they had to verify if it is true or not talk to his credibility already?
kingman 26
3/14/2011-9:48am at 9:48 am (UTC -4)
Oh, that’s not what I meant!
I just meant that these guys exaggerating or making things up really won’t hurt them overall; that is all I meant.
But yes, it SHOULD hurt them!
To me, virtually none of these guys have any credibility anyway.
To me, TRS says it all:
“This is just pure click mongering.”
TRS86
3/14/2011-9:46am at 9:46 am (UTC -4)
Does it? Again he has already explained it away by saying “Well Johan said there was discomfort”… How many of us will even remember in August “Hey I guess Steve Popper was wrong, I am not clicking on his stuff anymore”?