Beltran had cortisone shot in left knee. More to come on Mets.com. #Mets
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97 comments
saltygary
3/18/2011-12:29pm at 12:29 pm (UTC -4)
The always reliable, never-sensational Anthony DiComo ladies and gentleman!
TRS86
3/18/2011-12:39pm at 12:39 pm (UTC -4)
No, No, No…. LOL.
saltygary
3/18/2011-12:41pm at 12:41 pm (UTC -4)
Sorry I couldn’t help myself. Peace and Love Folks! lulz
stickguy
3/18/2011-12:43pm at 12:43 pm (UTC -4)
I need to get this group together in a bar, and start cutting them all to shreds with my biting, sarcastic wit. As long as they are buying of course.
Knog, I guarantee I will be in Toga this August, even if I have to drag myself up with Pneumonia!
stickguy
3/18/2011-12:46pm at 12:46 pm (UTC -4)
maybe this is good? If it gets him back on the field, I guess it is. At this point, I think Beltran is done, and he won’t even play next year (with a slim chance he DHs someplace). So, might as well get every last ounce of production out of him!
Has to be a guarantee he starts on the DL now, right? if so, will be quite interesting to see who wins the job. Duda! Duda! at least go with the potential of a big bat. Give hairston some starts to against lefties if you want.
Hopefully this cortisone shot works better than Utleys. A week+ later, and pretty much no change for him.
Mr North Jersey
3/18/2011-12:52pm at 12:52 pm (UTC -4)
OFF TOPIC
Are you guys listening to wfan and Martino trying to justify his post about racism maybe being a factor?
The guy must really think most fans can’t see right trough this.
Dirtysanchez
3/18/2011-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
when you spit into the wind…
There is no justification
Mr North Jersey
3/18/2011-12:59pm at 12:59 pm (UTC -4)
He basically said he brought up racism being a factor just because not due to anything that was said.
If I heard him right he said that he would not presume to know what Met fans think but that he would think there might be a segment that doesnt like Castillo due to race.
So why not presume there is a segment that hates him cause he was a Twin and report on that maybe also being a factor?
The guy really has the nerve to try to make people believe there was any relevance to him bringing up racism.
wannybackstra
3/18/2011-1:03pm at 1:03 pm (UTC -4)
I’m sure there is a segment of fans that don’t like any Hispanic players and another segment that didn’t like Shawn Green or Scot Schoenweiss because they are Jewish and another segment that doesn’t like Beltran because he is a woman whose strained vagina prevents him from playing.
But certainly none of these segments are substantial. For crying out loud, Mets fans have overrated and beloved many Hispanic players like Endy Chavez and Rafael Santana.
Mr North Jersey
3/18/2011-1:05pm at 1:05 pm (UTC -4)
“But certainly none of these segments are substantial. For crying out loud, ”
Agreed.
kistics
3/18/2011-1:44pm at 1:44 pm (UTC -4)
He’s an idiot. I listened to him for the first 20 second and knew exactly what he was going to say.
Beningo said it correctly prior to this interview. He said that this article smells like a young reporter looking to make a name for himself by causing some controversy.
kistics
3/18/2011-1:45pm at 1:45 pm (UTC -4)
So I turned it off after the first 20 seconds to get some Chipotle.. yum~
TRS86
3/18/2011-1:46pm at 1:46 pm (UTC -4)
Nah, that stuff does not happen….. (ducks).
TRS86
3/18/2011-12:56pm at 12:56 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed, and to me isn’t this like cutting your own throat for the sake of a few cheap hits…. sensationalism?
Seriously, the people that he is calling racist are the ones reading his material. That’s something even a preacher thinks twice about.
wannybackstra
3/18/2011-12:58pm at 12:58 pm (UTC -4)
The same fans who are clamoring for Jose Reyes to be signed to an extension are the same fans who dislike Luis Castillo for being Dominican?
Forget that one of them smiles and the other pouts. Those couldn’t possibly factor into the likability equation.
TRS86
3/18/2011-1:00pm at 1:00 pm (UTC -4)
Or the fact that one of them is past his prime and the other one should be entering it.
oleosmirf
3/18/2011-1:21pm at 1:21 pm (UTC -4)
or the fact that the Mets fired Willy Randolph for being black yet replaced him with his black bench coach.
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-1:15pm at 1:15 pm (UTC -4)
No, not listening ’cause I’ve got SNY on.
Don’t care how Martino spins it. The damage is done. He went over the line, IMO.
Some of these beat writers really need to think about what they’re writing about before they hit that send button.
Dirtysanchez
3/18/2011-12:56pm at 12:56 pm (UTC -4)
I thought cortizone shots were to help athlete FINISH a year…not start it. I dont think this bodes well for him and us
TRS86
3/18/2011-12:56pm at 12:56 pm (UTC -4)
Actually based on what I am reading a lot of players get cortisone shots to start the season.
saltygary
3/18/2011-1:01pm at 1:01 pm (UTC -4)
The “Underrated” Gary Carter wrote about getting them during and before the season. It essentially reduces the pain for things like joint issues. I believe he needed it for his ankle? Anyhoo it reduces the pain but can increase the chance of further injury since it allows the player to be more physical again. Also I believe that can last about 3 months.
TRS86
3/18/2011-1:18pm at 1:18 pm (UTC -4)
I think you are indeed a little Salty Gary.
saltygary
3/18/2011-1:24pm at 1:24 pm (UTC -4)
I think you are starting to catch on. I’m still bitter about things that happened in 8th grade.
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-1:17pm at 1:17 pm (UTC -4)
While that’s probably true, I don’t think this cortisone shot is just a little boost to get one over the hump.
He either got the shot to hasten the lessening of the pain in that knee or it’s not really getting better and they’re trying anything right now.
Gotta feel for Beltran. This might be it for him in that he originally thought he would be playing this year for one more big contract. Now it looks like he’s got to prove he can play at all, at this point.
stickguy
3/18/2011-1:00pm at 1:00 pm (UTC -4)
If I have it straight, the purpose of one is to reduce inflammation and help the tendons, etc. heal. And lower pain, so he can get back to playing.
Plenty of guys get them early.
Mr North Jersey
3/18/2011-1:01pm at 1:01 pm (UTC -4)
Now that you say that the Phillies may also be saying the same thing regarding Utley.
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-1:19pm at 1:19 pm (UTC -4)
Utley’s problem sounds like the beginning of the end for him. From everything I’m reading, it sounds exactly like Beltran’s problem. He’s got a bone bruise. Don’t know if it’s currently as severe as Beltran’s was but regardless, it’ll be a long road back with or without surgery.
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:26pm at 2:26 pm (UTC -4)
utley is way past mild tendinitis at this point. Like you said, seems to be deep into Beltran territory.
wannybackstra
3/18/2011-1:09pm at 1:09 pm (UTC -4)
Cortisone is a corticosteroid which reduces inflammation. Beginning of season, end of season, makes no difference.
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
So I guess Carrasco has the 5th spot hands down, since Gee was sent down.
I’m sure we’ll be seeing Gee up here sooner rather than later.
TRS86
3/18/2011-1:31pm at 1:31 pm (UTC -4)
I think you are mixing up Capuano and Carrasco?
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-1:32pm at 1:32 pm (UTC -4)
Yes, you’re right. Exactly what I meant.
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:26pm at 2:26 pm (UTC -4)
well, after today, carrasco looks like a lot safer bet for the long man role!
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
Sandy in the SNY booth right now.
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-2:08pm at 2:08 pm (UTC -4)
Mets on the board first with a Wright RBI. Keith comments he’s not hitting yet this ST but he’s not worrying about it.
kistics
3/18/2011-2:14pm at 2:14 pm (UTC -4)
what happened with Reyes play? Was it a brain fart on Reyes’ part?
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:24pm at 2:24 pm (UTC -4)
More of a mistake by Pagan than Reyes. Looked like Pagan was trying to sacrifice himself to get in a rundown and let Reyes score.
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:25pm at 2:25 pm (UTC -4)
Surprised to see Krod’s breaking pitch looking so good early.
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:30pm at 2:30 pm (UTC -4)
WOW, I am so proud of MC. I am impressed, very rare if not shocking to see him take such a firm stance on something and even that it’s against a beat writer.
http://www.metsblog.com/2011/03/18/why-do-mets-fans-dislike-luis-castillo/
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:32pm at 2:32 pm (UTC -4)
interesting conversation by the booth, about some rumor (media based) out of Miami that the Marlins might bring him back, if their 2B prospect guy isn’t quite ready.
and of course, Philly. Still don’t see him being any better than the 2-3 guys they are sorting through already, but who knows.
Ads to the mets, sad that we spent some much time discussing Ollie and Slappy, both of whom were pretty much foregone conclusions to be gone, ignoring the positive stories:
-K Rod looks better than ever.
-Thole looks like a solid veteran catcher
-rotation all seems healthy, young and capuano both have looked good.
-Buccholz could be the find of the year (your set up man right now I bet)
and some more, but man, it seems like you never hear about any of these!
wannybackstra
3/18/2011-2:45pm at 2:45 pm (UTC -4)
i thought omar infante is playing 2B for the Fish.
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:50pm at 2:50 pm (UTC -4)
Could move Infante to 3B.
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:35pm at 2:35 pm (UTC -4)
As proud as I am to see my boy Duda make a nice play in RF, I kinda was rooting for Mclouth to hit that one out!
so lets see, Ollie hitting 86, falls behind a lefty, then grooves one that gets hit hard.
Yup, that’s our ollie!
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:37pm at 2:37 pm (UTC -4)
K’s Heyward though….
Duda, I know he is your man, has shown some huge holes in his swing of late. I think it is still best for him to go down to AAA for a while.
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:41pm at 2:41 pm (UTC -4)
Keith said he didn’t go around though!
I suspect Duda will go down to start. Have all along. Depends on Beltran of course. Duda can work with the HC if he needs to tighten anything up.
but, assuming he goes down and mashes like last year, not much really to prove.
I also wonder what they do in Buffalo with Martinez and Duda. Who gets LF and who gets RF? Or should they rotate?
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
Not sure if we are talking about the same play with Duda. He just looks a little uncomfortable on some pitches.
Originally they had him slotted for 1B. Not sure what they will do now.
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-2:45pm at 2:45 pm (UTC -4)
I can see Duda making the team if Beltran starts out on the DL.
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:38pm at 2:38 pm (UTC -4)
and if that inning didn’t prove he should never face a RH batter, nothing will!
Just get rid of him. There are other options for a loogy, no need for the drama.
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:39pm at 2:39 pm (UTC -4)
Ollie P does his work and spikes the ball. You go Ollie…. LOL.
You know, for some reason now that Castillo is gone, I am slightly OK with Perez being the lefty specialist to break camp. I know, it’s most likely just the left over euphoria I am feeling from this morning but…
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:43pm at 2:43 pm (UTC -4)
I said weeks ago that if I had to choose one, I wanted castillo gone over Ollie. Simply because Castillo would impact every game, but in theory, Ollie can be a loogy.
still don’t want him, or think it will happen, but other than the PR/fan aspect, not a big deal really.
and, it scares me to say this, but it does give them an emergency starter or long man in case of an early exit (bad outing, 3rd inning rain delay say).
oleosmirf
3/18/2011-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
im not ok with it, not when Tim Byrdak or Mike O’Conner haven’t given up a run all ST.
wannybackstra
3/18/2011-2:47pm at 2:47 pm (UTC -4)
ditto.
i’d sooner defrost jim kaat or jesse orosco and their ever giving left arms.
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:48pm at 2:48 pm (UTC -4)
True but they both have minor league options. LOL, would not want to lose Ollie…..
Like I said, I still want him gone. Not going to defend him but also not going to jump off a bridge if they keep him at this point. By Monday I will have soured up again.
oleosmirf
3/18/2011-2:52pm at 2:52 pm (UTC -4)
i would because Perez making the team infers that he is best man for the job and that is an insult to Mets fans. there is no way he deserves to make the team…
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:57pm at 2:57 pm (UTC -4)
I know it’s hard to believe but it’s slightly, slightly, slightly possible he is the better pitcher one LH batter at a time. I doubt it but if Sandy was willing to ditch Castillo but keeps Ollie there will be a decent reason.
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-2:49pm at 2:49 pm (UTC -4)
god forbid Ollie does make the team, can we stash Byrdak and O’Conner in the minors? I’m losing track on who is a roster invitee, who would need to be put on the 40 man, etc….to check them.
I’d hate to lose either one ’cause I think we’ll need them sooner rather than later.
I don’t care how good Ollie might have looked this inning. I don’t believe for one second he’s capable of becoming a ‘light out inning horse’ type of LOOGY Feliciano was.
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:56pm at 2:56 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah both are on minor league contracts.
kistics
3/18/2011-3:05pm at 3:05 pm (UTC -4)
I think they are looking for 2 lefties coming out of BP. Byrdak is going to be one and it’s a race between Ollie and O’Connor. If O’connor is halfway decent, I think Ollie is gone.
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
Nice. Wright starting to get dialed in, that will be huge. Maybe he has a good april for a change?
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:46pm at 2:46 pm (UTC -4)
Whatchewtalkingabout Willis?
Last April: .273 .430 .506 .936
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:49pm at 2:49 pm (UTC -4)
what, you expect me to remember last year, at my age?
OK, he had one. But wasn’t that pretty much the first time?
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:53pm at 2:53 pm (UTC -4)
2010 .273 .430 .506 .936
2009 not good
2008: .281 .417 .531 .948
2007 terrible
2006: .303 .377 .584 .962
Discouraging trend…. but his slow starts I guess are perception more than reality.
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-2:47pm at 2:47 pm (UTC -4)
I thought he got off to a nice start last April, for the first time.
stickguy
3/18/2011-2:48pm at 2:48 pm (UTC -4)
So, since it is a good chance that Beltran starts on the DL, and even if not, may be rusty to start, is Davis officially the clean up hitter now? Should they even mess around with Beltran at this point?
reyes
pagan
wright
davis
beltran
bay
thole
2B
S,S,R,L,S,R,L,(R/L platoon?)
Nice balance, and hard to set up a pen to face that (burn them oogies!)
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
Hmmm, good question.
Reyes, Pagan, Bay, Wright, Beltran, Thole, 2B?
Maybe it gives Bay something to hit?
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
whoops forgot Davis after Wright.
TRS86
3/18/2011-2:56pm at 2:56 pm (UTC -4)
Splits up those LH at the bottom as well… Go Murphy!
Prismo
3/18/2011-2:59pm at 2:59 pm (UTC -4)
I like your lineup (with Ike) TRS. Can’t give up on Bay at bat him 6th just yet.
However, we should make a lineup WITHOUT Beltran. Because he’s not starting the season in the bigs.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:01pm at 3:01 pm (UTC -4)
To me that’s easier to do with him in the 6 spot like I have him.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:02pm at 3:02 pm (UTC -4)
Then it would be
Reyes, Pagan, Bay, Wright, Davis, Hairston/Harris, 2B, Thole.
stickguy
3/18/2011-3:07pm at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)
no way am I hitting Bay 3rd. Not a chance.
and I relaly don’t like Wright 4th. Don’t have the numbers, so maybe this is a mis-perception, but it seems that he does not fare as well in that spot (and leads to the danger of trying to sell out for HRs).
Bay 6th, with beltran back? Why not, he doesn’t really deserve better, right now!
even if you want Beltran back in the 4 hole, I still put davis 5th.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:19pm at 3:19 pm (UTC -4)
I think we need Bay to be successful for the Mets to be successful. Thus if batting him ahead of Wright gets him better pitches then so be it. It’s not like he is a horrible OBP guy regardless.
oleosmirf
3/18/2011-3:21pm at 3:21 pm (UTC -4)
I still dont understand how Bay ever hit 30+ HR. the guy has no lift on his ball…
stickguy
3/18/2011-3:22pm at 3:22 pm (UTC -4)
I think it weakens 2 positions. and sure as hell is not putting your best hitter 3rd!
even 6th, with murphy/thole/emaus behind him, he is not completely abandoned.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:22pm at 3:22 pm (UTC -4)
I thought part of that was something they are looking at this spring to get him hitting more line drives instead of pop flies.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:23pm at 3:23 pm (UTC -4)
Weakens two positions? Explain.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:25pm at 3:25 pm (UTC -4)
There is little to no difference in Wright’s career stats in the 3rd and 4th spots and I am sure those depend much more on who was behind him at the time.
stickguy
3/18/2011-3:53pm at 3:53 pm (UTC -4)
In the batting order. I meant that he is not as good a hitter as DW is (making the 3rd hole worse), and DW is not as good hitting 4th as he is 3rd (if that makes sense).
Right now, at his age and current production, Bay in the 6 hole makes sense. Even the original with Beltran line up had him 5th, so really, it is essentially flipping him and Ike.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:55pm at 3:55 pm (UTC -4)
Wright is less than OPS % points different in the 3rd spot over the 4th spot. In fact his stats are much better in the 5 spot. Think we should move him there? LOL.
Not concerned about where Wright hits considering the other lineup issues.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:57pm at 3:57 pm (UTC -4)
Should say less than 10% points difference. Not much difference at all.
stickguy
3/18/2011-4:03pm at 4:03 pm (UTC -4)
I still think my lineup puts guys where they belong, and has nice flow (L/R, etc.).
Of course, it won’t be like that until Beltran is actually playing.
so, reyes/pagan/wright/Ike/Bay (hey, look familiar?). Then Hairston/Harris, Thole, 2B in some order.
When beltran comes back, start in 5 or 6, with the goal being get him into the 5th hole eventually.
kistics
3/18/2011-3:11pm at 3:11 pm (UTC -4)
Hey great tweet to Jon Heyman!
oleosmirf
3/18/2011-2:56pm at 2:56 pm (UTC -4)
I still want Murphy playing 2B in the 7 hole against RHP. plus he cant be as bad as this Brooks Conrad guy…
stickguy
3/18/2011-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
If they end up with Thole hitting 8th, that should be a pretty deep lineup!
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-3:08pm at 3:08 pm (UTC -4)
This.
kistics
3/18/2011-3:19pm at 3:19 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah Oleo. This!
stickguy
3/18/2011-3:23pm at 3:23 pm (UTC -4)
interesting comments from Keith, about not worrying at all about Beltran’s D, and rolling him out with very little prep time onto the field even in right.
njstuckintx
3/18/2011-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
how many are on the roster now? 31?
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:39pm at 3:39 pm (UTC -4)
I thought I heard more than that. Could be wrong.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:41pm at 3:41 pm (UTC -4)
I thought I heard 37.
njstuckintx
3/18/2011-3:43pm at 3:43 pm (UTC -4)
do we have a list of who we think we’ll go down? Works killing me, so my research time is limited to a whole lot of nothing.
TRS86
3/18/2011-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
Take this:
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=nym
Add this:
Byrdak, Izzy, O’Connor, Harris
Not sure if Pridie, Adams, Ryan, are still considered “up” or not.
njstuckintx
3/18/2011-3:53pm at 3:53 pm (UTC -4)
thank you sir
stickguy
3/18/2011-3:54pm at 3:54 pm (UTC -4)
37, I believe that includes K Rod. and of course Beltran!
metsfan4decades
3/18/2011-3:39pm at 3:39 pm (UTC -4)
Saw RA’s line on the back field. Hope those 11 hits were him working on something.
oleosmirf
3/18/2011-4:03pm at 4:03 pm (UTC -4)
i remember reading in the offseason that one of the problems is that in ST the knuckleball is hard to throw in the humidity b/c its hard to get a good grip with just your knuckles…
stickguy
3/18/2011-4:04pm at 4:04 pm (UTC -4)
Good thing it is never Humid during the summer around here!
Though it does bode well if the Mets can get into the post season.